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- what servers have only 1 cpu are 1u in hight and have 10 2.5'' ssd bays in the front
- ChatGPT said:
- Servers that meet all these criteria β 1U in height, single CPU socket, and 10 front-accessible 2.5" SSD bays β are a bit niche, but they do exist. Here's a breakdown of some options or how to find/build one:
- β Requirements Recap
- 1U height
- Single CPU
- 10 x 2.5" hot-swap bays in front
- Likely intended for high IOPS, compact data environments, or edge use cases
- π Examples That Fit or Can Be Configured:
- 1. Supermicro SuperServer 1029U Series
- Model: SYS-1029U-TN10RT
- Specs:
- 1U chassis
- Supports up to 10x 2.5" hot-swap drives in front
- Can be configured with a single CPU (Intel Xeon Scalable)
- Redundant power supply
- Notes: Can run single or dual CPU depending on config β you can choose single CPU to meet your requirement.
- 2. Dell PowerEdge R640
- Technically dual-socket capable, but you can run it with one CPU
- Has options for 10 x 2.5" front bays
- Very common in enterprise environments
- 3. HPE ProLiant DL360 Gen10 or Gen11
- Again, dual-socket capable but works fine with a single CPU
- Offers configurations with up to 10 SFF (2.5") drives in front
- Known for reliability and remote management features
- 4. Lenovo ThinkSystem SR630
- Single or dual Intel Xeon Scalable support
- Configurable with 10 x 2.5" front bays
- 1U form factor
- π‘ Notes:
- Many 1U servers with 10x 2.5" bays are dual-socket capable but run perfectly with a single CPU installed β often saving on power and cost.
- If you strictly want a board that only physically accepts one CPU, you'd need to look into embedded systems or custom chassis setups.
- You might also consider white-box servers or custom builds using a 1U chassis (like from Chenbro or iStarUSA) and a single-socket server board (e.g., from Supermicro).
- π§ If You Want to Build One:
- You could use a case like:
- Supermicro CSE-813MFTQ-600CB (1U, 10 x 2.5" hot-swap)
- Pair with a single-socket motherboard (e.g., Supermicro X12 series)
- Add an appropriate backplane and HBA/RAID controller
- Would you like recommendations tailored to AMD EPYC or ARM CPUs? Or are you looking for something more power-efficient or used/refurbished for a home lab setup?
- You said:
- most of these servers use 500w or more however there is an arm server that uses less power.
- ChatGPT said:
- You're absolutely right β ARM servers can offer drastically lower power consumption while still delivering solid performance, especially for workloads like edge computing, microservices, or storage-focused tasks.
- If you're looking for a 1U ARM-based server with 10x 2.5" SSD bays, the field is narrower, but some solid options exist. Letβs look at whatβs out there and close to your spec β especially with low power draw in mind.
- β Known Low-Power ARM Servers (close to your spec)
- 1. Ampere Altra-based Servers
- Ampere Altra and Altra Max are ARM-based CPUs with very good performance-per-watt.
- π¦ Examples:
- Gigabyte R152-P30
- 1U
- Ampere Altra CPU (up to 80 ARM cores)
- Single socket
- Can be configured with up to 10x 2.5" U.2 NVMe or SATA SSDs (model-specific)
- Typical power draw: 200β350W under load (idle is much lower)
- Optional BMC and remote management
- WiWynn EP100 / Mt. Jade Platforms
- Based on Ampere reference designs
- Single-socket ARM
- 1U with high drive bay options (some have up to 12x 2.5")
- Requires sourcing through OEMs or integrators
- 2. SolidRun HoneyComb LX2K (DIY/Small scale)
- 16-core NXP Layerscape LX2160A ARMv8 CPU
- Very low power (uses ~30W max)
- Not rackmount by default, but some enthusiasts have built 1U enclosures
- Doesnβt support 10 SSDs out of the box β this would be more of a custom build with an HBA
- βοΈ Workaround: Use a Storage JBOD
- If you can't find a perfect 1U ARM server with 10 SSD bays in front, another option is:
- Use a low-power ARM server (like a HoneyComb or Ampere Altra dev board)
- Connect it to a 1U JBOD chassis (e.g., from Chenbro, Supermicro)
- Access the drives over SAS/SATA via an HBA or over USB/SATA bridges
- β‘ Power Comparison Snapshot
- Server CPU Type Power Draw (Typical) Drive Bays
- Supermicro 1029U Intel Xeon ~500β700W 10x 2.5"
- Dell R640 Intel Xeon ~500β600W 10x 2.5"
- Gigabyte R152-P30 Ampere Altra ~200β350W 10x 2.5"
- SolidRun HoneyComb DIY NXP ARMv8 ~30β50W Custom
- Would you like help finding where to buy one of the Ampere-based options? Or are you considering building your own ultra-low-power storage server with ARM and external bays?
- You said:
- what about a zima board with a pcie sata expander card?
- ChatGPT said:
- Yes! Thatβs a smart and compact approach. A ZimaBoard + PCIe SATA expander card can definitely get you low power + high storage density β though with a bit of DIY flavor. Let's break it down:
- π§© ZimaBoard + PCIe SATA Card Setup
- β ZimaBoard Basics
- CPU: Intel Celeron N3450 or N3350 (not ARM, but very low power)
- Power: ~6β10W idle, ~15β20W under load
- Form Factor: Mini-PC style, fanless, passive cooling
- PCIe Slot: 1x PCIe 2.0 (full-sized slot on ZimaBoard 432/832)
- π Add: PCIe SATA Expander
- Use a PCIe to SATA HBA, like:
- Marvell 88SE9215 or ASM1166 (up to 6 ports)
- LSI 9211-8i (flashed to IT mode) β gives 8 ports
- JMB585 cards (low power, up to 5 ports)
- Combine that with a SATA power splitter and external power supply for the SSDs (important!).
- π’ Max Drive Count
- ZimaBoard PCIe bus is limited (1x PCIe 2.0), but still fast enough for multiple SATA SSDs doing sequential or random I/O β not ideal for maxing out 10 SSDs at full speed, but great for:
- ZFS/NAS
- Media servers
- Low-impact database or logging
- Homelab experiments
- You could get:
- 6β8 SATA SSDs reliably with a good PCIe HBA
- 10 SSDs with a dual-port SATA card + port multipliers β but at the cost of performance/stability
- πͺ What Youβll Need
- Component Purpose
- ZimaBoard 432 or 832 Main board (with PCIe slot)
- PCIe SATA HBA (4β8 ports) Add SATA drive support
- SATA power cables & splitter Power all SSDs
- 12V PSU (ZimaBoard + drives) Consider external 12V 5A+
- Enclosure or rackmount tray DIY case or short 1U chassis
- β οΈ Caveats
- Not rackmount-ready out of the box, but can be mounted inside a custom 1U tray
- ZimaBoard doesnβt have enterprise management (no IPMI)
- PCIe bandwidth is shared β donβt expect high aggregate throughput with 10 SSDs
- π‘ Verdict
- β Great for:
- Low power usage (~25β40W total with drives)
- Quiet or fanless setups
- DIY NAS or home lab with 4β8 drives
- β οΈ Limitations:
- Not ARM-based (x86)
- Max 1 PCIe slot = no GPU, limited expandability
- More of a hobbyist/experimental setup than enterprise-grade
- Would you like help picking a specific HBA and power supply combo for this setup? Or ideas for mounting it into a 1U chassis?
- You said:
- what intel cpu has the lowest power draw
- ChatGPT said:
- When it comes to Intel CPUs with the lowest power draw, youβll want to look at models with ultra-low TDP (Thermal Design Power). Hereβs a breakdown based on different use cases:
- π§ Lowest Power Intel CPUs (Modern Options)
- π© Absolute Lowest Power (Fanless, Embedded)
- CPU TDP Cores Architecture Notes
- Intel Atom x5-Z8350 2W 4 Cherry Trail Used in sticks, tablets, SBCs
- Intel Atom E3940 9.5W 4 Apollo Lake Embedded, industrial boards
- Intel Celeron N3350/N3450 6W 2/4 Apollo Lake Used in ZimaBoard, fanless mini-PCs
- These are ultra-low power CPUs used in embedded systems, thin clients, or fanless SBCs.
- π¦ Low Power, Usable Desktop Performance
- CPU TDP Cores Architecture Notes
- Intel Core i3-10110U 15W 2C/4T Comet Lake Found in ultrabooks
- Intel Core i5-1235U 15W base, 55W turbo 10 (2P+8E) Alder Lake Very efficient, great performance/watt
- Intel Pentium Gold 7505 15W 2C/4T Tiger Lake Solid light-use CPU
- These are typically found in laptops, but you can find them soldered on NUC-style boards or fanless mini-PCs.
- π₯ Desktop CPUs with Low TDP (for passive or efficient builds)
- CPU TDP Cores Notes
- Intel Core i3-13100T 35W 4C/8T Low-power variant of i3-13100
- Intel Pentium Gold G7400T 35W 2C/4T Entry-level 12th Gen desktop
- Intel Xeon E-2124T 71W 4C/4T Low-power Xeon for servers
- βTβ series CPUs are underclocked for low power use, but still have modern architecture and features.
- π§ Best Pick for DIY Low-Power Server
- If you're building a home server or NAS, and want to stay under 15β25W idle:
- β Celeron N3450 or J4105: Great for ZFS, media servers, and low-traffic apps
- β Core i3-13100T: Excellent compromise β low idle power, snappy for general use
- β Atom C3000 series (like C3558): Real server chips, ultra-efficient, ECC support, used in ;low-watt NAS boxes (e.g. Synology/QNAP)
- Would you prefer something passively cooled, rack-mountable, or with ECC RAM support? That could help narrow it down even more.
- You said:
- is there a intel core ultra 5 1u server motherboard
- ChatGPT said:
- βAs of now, there are no widely available 1U server motherboards specifically designed for Intel Core Ultra 5 processors. These processors, such as the Intel Core Ultra 5 125H and 115U, are primarily targeted at laptops and compact desktops, and are typically soldered directly onto the motherboard, making them unsuitable for standard server configurations.β
- Alternative Options:
- Intel Xeon E-Series or Xeon Scalable Processors:
- These processors are designed for server environments and have a range of motherboards and 1U chassis options available.
- They offer features like ECC memory support, higher core counts, and better thermal management suitable for 1U servers.β
- Intel Core "T" Series Desktop CPUs:
- These are low-power variants of Intel's desktop CPUs, with TDPs around 35W.
- They are compatible with standard LGA sockets and can be used with motherboards that fit into 1U server chassis.β
- Embedded or Industrial Boards:
- Some manufacturers offer embedded boards with soldered low-power CPUs suitable for 1U enclosures.
- These are often used in specialized applications and may not be widely available.β
- Considerations:
- Thermal Constraints: 1U servers have limited space for cooling solutions, so choosing a processor with a lower TDP is crucial.
- Availability: Ensure that the motherboard and processor combination you choose is readily available and supported by the chassis you intend to use.
- Use Case: Define the primary function of your server (e.g., file server, web server, virtualization) to select appropriate hardware that meets performance requirements without unnecessary power consumption.β
- If you have specific requirements or use cases in mind, feel free to provide more details, and I can offer more tailored recommendations.
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- You said:
- i need a 1u server with 10 2.5'' bays for ssd's that will consume no more than 60w for the full system
- ChatGPT said:
- Now thatβs a tight power budget β but not impossible! Targeting β€60W total system power (including SSDs) in a 1U chassis with 10 x 2.5" bays means youβre venturing into ultra-efficient, possibly custom territory. Letβs break this down and look at viable paths:
- β Key Constraints:
- 1U rackmount
- 10 x 2.5" SSDs (SATA most likely)
- β€60W total power draw
- That includes motherboard, CPU, RAM, SSDs, and power conversion losses
- Preferably quiet/passive or low-noise
- Realistic Hardware Path
- π§ CPU + Motherboard
- Your best bet is an ultra-low-power x86 or ARM board with minimal overhead. Here are a few options:
- πΉ Option 1: Intel Celeron/Pentium Mini-ITX with PCIe HBA
- Example: Intel J5040, N5105, or J6412 boards
- TDP: 10W or less
- Idle: ~4β6W
- Boards: ASRock J5040-ITX, ODYSSEY-X86J4125, or Topton mini PCs
- Add: PCIe SATA HBA (e.g., ASM1166) to get to 10 drives
- πΉ Option 2: SolidRun LX2-Lite or HoneyComb LX2K
- ARM-based SBCs with PCIe expansion
- TDP: ~30W max
- Can use PCIe HBA to drive SSDs
- ECC support + excellent power efficiency
- πΉ Option 3: ZimaBoard 832 or 432
- CPU: Intel Celeron N3450 (6W TDP)
- PCIe x1 slot = connect SATA HBA (JMB585/ASM1166)
- Fanless, very low power (board + drives β 30β50W)
- Affordable and DIY-friendly
- πΎ SSD Power Budget
- Typical SATA SSD idle: ~0.05β0.1W
- Max draw per SSD under load: ~2W
- 10 SSDs under mixed usage: ~12β15W max
- So your SSD array fits within 15W, comfortably leaving 45W for the rest of the system.
- π Power Supply Options
- For a low total power draw:
- 12V 5A external PSU (60W) β ideal for ZimaBoard or embedded builds
- Flex ATX or PicoPSU for motherboard-based setups
- Choose a 90W PSU running at 60β70% efficiency for best results
- π¦ Chassis Ideas
- You'll likely need to mod or custom-build your 1U case:
- Use a 1U case like Supermicro CSE-512 or CSE-813 and gut it
- Add:
- 10-bay hot-swap cage (can pull from used Dell/HP/Supermicro)
- Internal frame or trays for SSDs
- 40mm low-power fans (or passive, depending on cooling needs)
- π‘ Build Concept Summary
- Component Example
- Mainboard ZimaBoard 832 or J5040-ITX
- HBA Card ASM1166 or JMB585 PCIe SATA
- Drives 10 x 2.5β SATA SSDs
- Power 12V 5A external (or 90W PicoPSU)
- Case Custom 1U chassis or modded Supermicro
- Cooling 1β2 quiet 40mm fans or passive
- β Total Power Use: ~40W idle / ~50β55W peak
- β Fits in 1U, meets your 60W power target
- Would you like a list of parts with specific model names to help you assemble this? Or help sourcing a donor 1U chassis to start from?
- You said:
- a list of parts would be great
- ChatGPT said:
- Absolutely! Here's a curated list of components to build a 1U server with 10 x 2.5" SSD bays, targeting a total power consumption of 60W or less. This setup is ideal for a low-power NAS, media server, or edge computing node.
- π§© Components List
- π₯οΈ Mainboard + CPU
- Option 1: ZimaBoard 832
- CPU: Intel Celeron N3450 (4 cores, 6W TDP)
- Features: Fanless design, 1x PCIe x4 slot, dual Gigabit Ethernet, onboard storage options
- Power Consumption: ~6β10W idle
- Note: Suitable for lightweight server tasks; limited expandability due to single PCIe slot
- Option 2: ASRock J5040-ITX
- CPU: Intel Pentium Silver J5040 (4 cores, 10W TDP)
- Form Factor: Mini-ITX
- Features: 1x PCIe x1 slot, multiple SATA ports
- Power Consumption: ~10β15W idle
- Note: Offers more flexibility with standard motherboard features; requires separate case and PSU
- πΎ Storage Controller
- ASM1166 PCIe SATA HBA
- Interface: PCIe 3.0 x2
- Ports: 6x SATA III
- Power Consumption: ~3β5W
- Note: Combine with onboard SATA ports to achieve 10 SSD connections; ensure compatibility with chosen motherboard
- π Power Supply
- Mean Well GST60A12-P1J
- Output: 12V, 5A (60W)
- Efficiency: Meets Energy Level VI standards
- Connector: 2.1mm DC barrel jack
- Note: Reliable and efficient; ensure compatibility with your motherboard's power input
- π§ Cooling
- Gelid Silent 4 40mm Fan
- Size: 40x40x10mm
- Speed: 4200 RPM
- Noise Level: 18.9 dBA
- Power Consumption: ~1.2W
- Note: Ideal for maintaining airflow in confined 1U spaces; consider multiple units for optimal cooling
- π§° Chassis
- In-Win IW-RS110-07 1U Server Chassis
- Drive Bays: 10x 2.5" hot-swap bays
- includes: 750W redundant PSU (may be overkill for this build)
- Dimensions: 660 x 438 x 43.5mm
- Note: Offers the required drive bays; consider replacing the PSU with a lower wattage unit to match power targets
- β‘ Estimated Power Consumption
- Component Estimated Power
- Mainboard + CPU 6β15W
- SATA HBA 3β5W
- SSDs (10x) 10β15W
- Cooling Fans 2β4W
- Total ~25β39W
- Note: These are approximate values; actual consumption may vary based on workload and component efficiency.
- π οΈ Additional Recommendations
- Cabling: Ensure you have adequate SATA data and power cables; consider using SATA power splitters to minimize PSU connections.
- Monitoring: Implement system monitoring to track power usage and thermal performance.
- Operating System: Use lightweight server OS options like Ubuntu Server or TrueNAS Scale for optimal performance on low-power hardware.
- Would you like assistance in sourcing these components or further guidance on assembly and configuration?
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- You said:
- how much would it cost
- ChatGPT said:
- Absolutely! Here's a detailed breakdown of the estimated costs for building a 1U server with 10 x 2.5" SSD bays, aiming for a total power consumption of 60W or less. Prices are based on UK listings as of April 2025.
- π§© Component Price Breakdown
- π₯οΈ Mainboard + CPU
- Option 1: ZimaBoard 832
- Price: Approximately Β£150βΒ£180 (availability may vary)
- Note: Includes Intel Celeron N3450 (4 cores, 6W TDP), fanless design, and a PCIe x4 slot.β
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- Option 2: ASRock J5040-ITX
- Price: Β£119.49 β Β£143.70
- Note: Features Intel Pentium Silver J5040 (4 cores, 10W TDP), Mini-ITX form factor, and passive cooling.β
- Skinflint
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- PriceSpy UK
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- πΎ Storage Controller
- ASM1166 PCIe SATA HBA
- Price: Approximately Β£30βΒ£50
- Note: Provides 6 SATA III ports; combine with onboard SATA ports to achieve 10 SSD connections.β
- RS Components
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- π Power Supply
- Mean Well GST60A12-P1J (12V, 5A, 60W)
- Price: Β£21.38 (RS Components) β
- RS Components
- π§ Cooling
- Gelid Silent 4 40mm Fan
- Price: Approximately Β£5βΒ£10 per fan
- Note: Consider using 2β4 fans for adequate airflow in a 1U chassis.β
- Digi Spot
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- The Pi Hut
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- π§° Chassis
- In-Win IW-RS110-07 1U Server Chassis
- Price: Β£628.50 (ex. VAT) / Β£754.20 (inc. VAT)
- Note: Includes 10x 2.5" hot-swap bays and a 750W redundant PSU, which may exceed your power requirements.β
- RS Components
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- Skinflint
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- π· Total Estimated Cost
- Component Estimated Cost (GBP)
- Mainboard + CPU Β£119.49 β Β£180
- SATA HBA Β£30 β Β£50
- Power Supply Β£21.38
- Cooling Fans (2β4 units) Β£10 β Β£40
- Chassis Β£628.50 β Β£754.20
- Total Β£809.37 β Β£1,045.58
- Note: Prices are approximate and may vary based on availability and supplier.β
- π‘ Cost-Saving Suggestions
- Chassis: Consider sourcing a used or refurbished 1U chassis with 10x 2.5" bays to reduce costs.
- Power Supply: Replace the included 750W PSU with a lower-wattage, more efficient unit to better match your power consumption goals.
- Cooling: Optimize airflow with efficient fan placement to minimize the number of fans needed.β
- If you'd like assistance in sourcing specific components or exploring alternative configurations to better fit your budget and power requirements, feel free to ask!
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- You said:
- are there any pre built soloutions that fit this power budget
- ChatGPT said:
- βFinding a prebuilt 1U server that accommodates 10 x 2.5" SSDs and operates within a 60W power budget is quite challenging, as most enterprise-grade servers are designed for higher performance and, consequently, higher power consumption. However, here are some options and considerations:β
- Potential Prebuilt Options
- Supermicro SuperServer SSG-110P-NTR10
- Drive Bays: 10 x 2.5" hot-swap NVMe
- Form Factor: 1U
- Note: While this server offers the desired drive bay configuration, it's designed for high-performance applications and may exceed your power budget. β
- Dell PowerEdge R650xs
- Drive Bays: 10 x 2.5"
- Form Factor: 1U
- Note: This server is built for scale-out environments and may not align with low-power requirements. β
- Express Computer Systems
- HPE ProLiant DL360 Gen10
- Drive Bays: 10 x 2.5" NVMe/SAS/SATA
- Form Factor: 1U
- Note: This server offers flexibility in drive options but is geared towards high-performance tasks. β
- serverwarehouse.com
- β οΈ Considerations
- Power Consumption: The servers listed above are designed for performance and may not meet the strict 60W power consumption requirement.β
- Customization: Achieving such a low power budget with 10 SSDs may require a custom-built solution using low-power components, such as ARM-based processors or energy-efficient Intel CPUs.β
- Alternative Form Factors: Exploring slightly larger form factors, like 2U servers, may provide more flexibility in component selection and cooling, potentially aiding in meeting power consumption goals.β
- If you're open to exploring custom-built solutions or considering slightly larger form factors, I can provide guidance on assembling a system tailored to your power and storage requirements. Would you like assistance with that?
- You said:
- ASRock J5040-ITX is not 1u compatible
- ChatGPT said:
- You're absolutely right β the ASRock J5040-ITX is a Mini-ITX board, and at 170mm x 170mm, it's too tall for many 1U enclosures. Especially since 1U only gives you 1.75 inches (44.45mm) of vertical space, and even low-profile CPU heatsinks often bump into the lid.
- Letβs fix that. Here are realistic options for staying within 1U height constraints, using low-power CPUs and keeping your 10x 2.5" SSD requirement in mind:
- β Real 1U-Compatible Alternatives
- π§ Option 1: Thin Embedded Board with Soldered CPU
- Example: Supermicro A2SDi Series
- CPU: Intel Atom C3558 or C3758 (8β12W TDP, 4β8 cores)
- Form Factor: Flex ATX or Mini-ITX
- Height Compatibility: Designed for 1U use
- PCIe Slot: Yes, for SATA HBA
- ECC Support: Yes
- Example Board: Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F
- π Power-efficient and designed specifically for short-depth 1U cases
- π§ Option 2: Intel NUC Industrial/Embedded
- Models like the NUC 11 Essential (Atlas Canyon) use Intel Celeron N5105 (10W TDP)
- Some fanless versions can be modded into 1U cases
- Lacks SATA expandability without USB-to-SATA or external solutions
- π§ Option 3: Thin ARM SBC with PCIe
- Example: SolidRun LX2-Lite or HoneyComb LX2K
- ARM Cortex-A72 cores, <30W
- Supports PCIe x8 or x16
- Needs custom 1U mounting and SATA card
- β PCIe SATA HBA for 10 SSDs
- To meet your 10-drive goal, consider:
- ASM1166 (6 ports)
- JMB585 (5 ports)
- Combine onboard SATA with one of these cards, or use two if space allows.
- π¦ Chassis Options (1U, 10 SSD Bays)
- In-Win IW-RS110-07 β 10x 2.5" bays, 1U, hot-swap cage included
- Supermicro CSE-113TQ-600WB β 1U, room for 4β8 SSDs, can be modded
- Or go custom: find an empty 1U case and install a custom SSD cage + flex PSU
- π· Summary Build Option (All 1U-Compatible)
- Component Model
- Motherboard/CPU Supermicro A2SDi-4C-HLN4F
- RAM ECC DDR4 (depends on board)
- SSD HBA PCIe SATA card (ASM1166 or similar)
- Chassis In-Win IW-RS110-07
- PSU Flex ATX 150β200W (efficient)
- SSDs Your choice of 2.5" SATA
- Estimated power use: ~45β55W
- Fully 1U compatible: β
- Quiet/passive cooling possible: β
- Let me know if youβd like exact links or if you're okay with something slightly taller than 1U for easier cooling/flexibility.
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