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  1. me: Hello Mr.Thomas, Create account page code looks complex, i need to understand all the code before i edit anything. So it will definitely take more time. Can i work on that page after dinner?
  2.  
  3. aa8818: yes
  4. 8:47 PM
  5. you will see many codes there
  6.  
  7. please becareful
  8. 8:48 PM
  9. me: YEs definitely i'll be careful. I usually take backup of that page before i edit anything. So don't worry about that
  10.  
  11. aa8818: ok
  12.  
  13. how long is your dinner
  14.  
  15. i might wait for yo
  16.  
  17. me: 30 - 45 minutes
  18. 8:49 PM
  19. aa8818: ok
  20.  
  21. ping me
  22. 8:50 PM
  23. me: And one more thing, This is our first project. So i'm not sure what kind of person you are. So can you pay the money for what i done so far?.
  24.  
  25. Don't mistake me
  26.  
  27. I have to be careful
  28.  
  29. aa8818: hey
  30.  
  31. ill pay you when you finish
  32.  
  33. trust me
  34. 8:51 PM
  35. me: Yes, You will pay. But my problem is if i don't get money in the end then i definitely regret
  36.  
  37. aa8818: nah
  38.  
  39. you will get the money
  40.  
  41. ill give you more projects
  42.  
  43. so dont worry
  44.  
  45. i will pay you
  46. 8:52 PM
  47. im looking for good freelancers
  48.  
  49. you are perfect
  50.  
  51. so dont worry a thing
  52.  
  53. trust me please
  54.  
  55. I WILL PAY YOU
  56.  
  57. 100000%
  58.  
  59. CHECK MY FEEDACK
  60.  
  61. me: Yes can we proceed with escrow?
  62.  
  63. aa8818: hey
  64.  
  65. u want paypal?
  66.  
  67. i can pay via paypal
  68. 8:53 PM
  69. me: I have no problem in getting money via paypal
  70.  
  71. aa8818: viruthagiri
  72.  
  73. i will pay you when you finish
  74.  
  75. please please please trust me
  76.  
  77. you can hack my website if i dont pay
  78.  
  79. come on
  80.  
  81. i will pay you
  82.  
  83. check my feedback man
  84.  
  85. u r the one with 1 feedback
  86.  
  87. :)
  88.  
  89. me: Yes then whats wrong in escrow?
  90. 8:54 PM
  91. aa8818: nothing
  92.  
  93. i want to pay via paypal
  94.  
  95. come on
  96.  
  97. please go dinner
  98.  
  99. come back quick
  100.  
  101. lets not waste time talking about money
  102.  
  103. i will pay you for SURE
  104.  
  105. im the only one you can trust in scriptlance
  106. 8:55 PM
  107. me: Ok, so want me to proceed only with trust and no money?
  108.  
  109. aa8818: yep
  110.  
  111. me: Why can't you pay for the job i done?
  112.  
  113. aa8818: because i pay when you finish
  114.  
  115. hey
  116.  
  117. wait
  118.  
  119. let me see how much i got
  120.  
  121. in scriptlance
  122. 8:56 PM
  123. ok
  124.  
  125. i have $8.50
  126.  
  127. in scriptlance
  128.  
  129. i can put that
  130.  
  131. for escrow
  132.  
  133. but it ell you
  134.  
  135. you dont have to worry
  136.  
  137. i dont know why we chat about this
  138.  
  139. i need this done man
  140. 8:57 PM
  141. hey
  142.  
  143. i created
  144.  
  145. me: Because i have many experience where i done the whole job and people cheat me
  146.  
  147. aa8818: escrow
  148.  
  149. nah
  150.  
  151. i won't cheat you
  152.  
  153. $8.50
  154.  
  155. i made escrow
  156.  
  157. me: ok
  158.  
  159. aa8818: dont worry man
  160.  
  161. me: Ok then
  162.  
  163. aa8818: did u check feedback
  164.  
  165. to other jobs
  166.  
  167. ?
  168.  
  169. the people who cheat you
  170. 8:58 PM
  171. they had good feedback?
  172.  
  173. me: Yes thats why i accepted your project without any escrow
  174.  
  175. aa8818: ok
  176.  
  177. lets do it
  178.  
  179. plz go dinner
  180.  
  181. come back asap
  182.  
  183. me: ok
  184.  
  185. See you after 45 minutes
  186.  
  187. aa8818: yep
  188. 40 minutes
  189. 9:39 PM
  190. me: Hey are you there?
  191.  
  192. i'm back
  193.  
  194. aa8818: hey
  195.  
  196. me: yes
  197.  
  198. Can i proceed?
  199.  
  200. aa8818: of course
  201. 9:40 PM
  202. me: ok
  203.  
  204. aa8818: hey
  205.  
  206. when i enter my email
  207.  
  208. there is a page
  209.  
  210. me: yes
  211.  
  212. aa8818: to confirm right
  213.  
  214. you know that one
  215.  
  216. that confirmation page
  217. 9:41 PM
  218. me: yes
  219.  
  220. aa8818: what happen
  221.  
  222. in account
  223.  
  224. in account page
  225.  
  226. they tick the box
  227.  
  228. or untick
  229.  
  230. can u skip this?
  231.  
  232. because in this case
  233.  
  234. we know email is geniune
  235.  
  236. me: I don't understand
  237.  
  238. aa8818: because they have account
  239.  
  240. when you enter email address
  241.  
  242. in front page
  243. 9:42 PM
  244. you get
  245.  
  246. confiramtion
  247.  
  248. page
  249.  
  250. right?
  251.  
  252. you have to go to your email
  253.  
  254. inbox
  255.  
  256. me: These kind of advanced customization requires mailchimp api
  257.  
  258. Why not you use mailchimp oscommerce plugin?
  259.  
  260. aa8818: i dont know
  261.  
  262. i dont know if it exist
  263. 9:43 PM
  264. it can break other stuff too
  265.  
  266. me: Yes it exist, I seen somewhere
  267.  
  268. aa8818: hey
  269.  
  270. me: Let me find it
  271.  
  272. aa8818: just tell me
  273.  
  274. what were you planning on doing
  275.  
  276. the tick box
  277.  
  278. if someone tick
  279.  
  280. then what?
  281.  
  282. me: If someone tick the box it will send mail
  283. 9:44 PM
  284. to confirm it
  285.  
  286. aa8818: oh
  287.  
  288. ok
  289. 9:45 PM
  290. me: By the way i'm going to modify the code. But just remember the thing i'm doing is hard coding.
  291. 9:46 PM
  292. aa8818: whats that
  293.  
  294. me: I mean if you want to remove the code you need to edit core files again
  295. 9:47 PM
  296. aa8818: i hope it doesn't touch other functions
  297.  
  298. me: Yes
  299.  
  300. This is the plugin i mentioned
  301.  
  302. in case you need
  303.  
  304. This is the plugin i mentioned
  305.  
  306. http://connect.mailchimp.com/integrations/oscommerce
  307.  
  308. aa8818: show me plugin
  309. 9:48 PM
  310. me: Just read the description everything you asked available there
  311.  
  312. aa8818: lokks good
  313.  
  314. but you have this?
  315.  
  316. it says buy
  317.  
  318. me: No i don't have it
  319.  
  320. Let me see the price
  321.  
  322. aa8818: omg
  323. 9:49 PM
  324. thats 50pound
  325.  
  326. me: Oh,
  327.  
  328. I think it will be around 60 in usd
  329.  
  330. right?
  331.  
  332. aa8818: yes
  333. 9:50 PM
  334. may be more
  335.  
  336. me: ok
  337.  
  338. aa8818: why
  339.  
  340. you want me to buy this?
  341.  
  342. me: No
  343.  
  344. I just suggested it, if you want to use api then you need to buy that plugin
  345. 9:51 PM
  346. Because that plugin uses api
  347.  
  348. aa8818: no
  349.  
  350. not buying that
  351.  
  352. me: ok
  353.  
  354. aa8818: im sure that is just simple api
  355.  
  356. api is free
  357.  
  358. http://apidocs.mailchimp.com/api/
  359. 9:52 PM
  360. me: What makes you think api is simple? I just checved their api. Let me show it
  361.  
  362. aa8818: apidocs.mailchimp.com/api/1.3/
  363. 9:53 PM
  364. this one is it?
  365.  
  366. me: let me check
  367.  
  368. aa8818: just need to sync
  369.  
  370. first name
  371.  
  372. last name
  373.  
  374. and email address
  375.  
  376. dont need other campaign
  377.  
  378. me: Yes thats right, thats the api
  379.  
  380. aa8818: syncs
  381. 9:54 PM
  382. me: Here you need to understand something, we can use that api only for values. Still custom php coding required
  383.  
  384. By the way lets leave it
  385. 9:55 PM
  386. and let me proceed
  387.  
  388. aa8818: what will you do
  389.  
  390. which method
  391. 9:56 PM
  392. me: The thing i mentioned is for simple php method, i never said i'm gonna use api
  393.  
  394. This is what i'm gonna do
  395.  
  396. aa8818: i didn't know customers have to do 2nd step
  397.  
  398. so what you will do?
  399.  
  400. you will do normal way?
  401.  
  402. people get email confirmation?
  403. 9:57 PM
  404. me: Ok in normal method, user need to confirm the email twice
  405.  
  406. But in api method there is no need to confirm again
  407. 9:58 PM
  408. To use api method i need to read everything from top to bottom, thats why i said i'll use normal method
  409. 9:59 PM
  410. aa8818: i want api
  411.  
  412. i didn't know there was this another step
  413.  
  414. i want smooth
  415.  
  416. like all other websites
  417.  
  418. people tick box
  419.  
  420. click update
  421.  
  422. and thats done
  423.  
  424. not go to inbox
  425.  
  426. check email
  427.  
  428. click email
  429.  
  430. this is not good
  431. 10:00 PM
  432. wat can we do
  433.  
  434. me: Then there is no way other than purchasing that mail chimp plugin. I have to edit the codes even if you purcahse the plugin
  435.  
  436. aa8818: im not buying that man
  437.  
  438. me: So what you want me to do?
  439. 10:01 PM
  440. aa8818: why can't you use api yourself
  441.  
  442. i had another dev working on this
  443.  
  444. he was going to put api himself
  445.  
  446. me: Ok then why not giving this api related work to him?
  447.  
  448. aa8818: i did
  449.  
  450. but you came
  451.  
  452. me: oh
  453.  
  454. aa8818: and he was offline
  455.  
  456. this is why i asked you
  457.  
  458. can you do it right now
  459. 10:02 PM
  460. i didn't think it will cause this problem
  461.  
  462. me: How can i do it right now?. I need to read all thye stuffs
  463.  
  464. aa8818: how can this be so complex
  465.  
  466. its just an api
  467.  
  468. that guy is ripping you off
  469.  
  470. $60
  471.  
  472. for that api
  473.  
  474. omg
  475. 10:03 PM
  476. that is for the dummies
  477.  
  478. no one buys that
  479.  
  480. he so dumb that he have to send the file to you manually
  481.  
  482. haha
  483.  
  484. he said
  485.  
  486. after pay
  487.  
  488. wait
  489.  
  490. until he check the email
  491.  
  492. lmao
  493.  
  494. his system is shit
  495. 10:04 PM
  496. im sure his api modification is shit too
  497.  
  498. me: what are you talking about?
  499.  
  500. aa8818: huh?
  501.  
  502. the api guy
  503.  
  504. http://www.graith.co.uk/mailchimp.php
  505.  
  506. read below
  507.  
  508. you have to wait
  509.  
  510. after you pay
  511.  
  512. me: That api is provided by mailchimp
  513.  
  514. aa8818: i know
  515.  
  516. but he changed it to work on osc
  517. 10:06 PM
  518. me: Give me 5 minutes. I'll check their api once again, if its simple, i'll code it for $20, else i'm not gonna do that, you need to hire that other guy
  519. 10:07 PM
  520. aa8818: ye check
  521. 16 minutes
  522. 10:23 PM
  523. me: Hello Mr.Thomas, No disrespect, but please understand i can't work with their api even if you give me $75. They have good api, but to do all the stuffs long php work required. Please understand api is just placeholders for values not full php code. So i highly recommend you to give this job to that other guy. Usually people who has knowledge don't do api related work for $20. But that guy agreed to do it. So you are lucky. Let him to do it.
  524. 10:24 PM
  525. aa8818: oh
  526.  
  527. this is trouble
  528.  
  529. .................
  530.  
  531. omg
  532. 10:25 PM
  533. i already told him
  534.  
  535. byebye
  536.  
  537. i think he sleeping
  538.  
  539. ummm
  540.  
  541. can you reverse everything back?
  542. 10:26 PM
  543. me: No don't worry, We don't need to change everything
  544.  
  545. aa8818: the thing is
  546.  
  547. he was doing it different way
  548.  
  549. not your way
  550.  
  551. he was doing some syncing
  552.  
  553. me: The job i done so far stores the values in mailchimp
  554.  
  555. aa8818: he was writing some script
  556.  
  557. no
  558.  
  559. that is not the way
  560.  
  561. can u reverse or not?
  562.  
  563. me: Yes i can reverse it,
  564. 10:27 PM
  565. But i'm just saying
  566.  
  567. aa8818: yep
  568.  
  569. have to reverse
  570.  
  571. save your file
  572.  
  573. too
  574.  
  575. just in case
  576.  
  577. i might come back to you
  578.  
  579. becoz i already told him
  580.  
  581. i found new dev
  582. 10:28 PM
  583. can u reverse it please
  584. 10:29 PM
  585. me: I'll be damned. I didn't take backup for your slider file. I did only for your sidebar. So you have any backup file for that?
  586.  
  587. aa8818: oh
  588.  
  589. dont worry
  590.  
  591. ill just tell him the truth
  592.  
  593. just leave it
  594. 10:30 PM
  595. me: ok
  596.  
  597. aa8818: hey
  598.  
  599. give me a moment
  600.  
  601. me: ok
  602. 10:31 PM
  603. There are other mail services like mailchimp available
  604.  
  605. Why not switch you mail service and try their plugins
  606. 10:33 PM
  607. aa8818: hey
  608.  
  609. mailchimp is cheap
  610.  
  611. what else do you recommend
  612.  
  613. me: ok
  614.  
  615. amember?
  616. 10:34 PM
  617. http://www.amember.com/p/main/integrations/
  618.  
  619. aa8818: http://www.amember.com/p/main/order/
  620.  
  621. i need vps for this
  622.  
  623. right?
  624. 10:35 PM
  625. me: No. what makes you say that?
  626.  
  627. aa8818: amember
  628.  
  629. is this newsletter?
  630. 10:36 PM
  631. oh
  632.  
  633. you can install this
  634.  
  635. me: I think its newsletter integrated service
  636.  
  637. aa8818: on my osc?
  638.  
  639. me: No don't buy that
  640.  
  641. Its different script
  642.  
  643. The best email newsletter script i used so far is interspire
  644. 10:37 PM
  645. But you are afraid to use that
  646.  
  647. why?
  648.  
  649. How much mailchimp cost?
  650.  
  651. aa8818: its monthly
  652.  
  653. me: Yes how much?
  654.  
  655. aa8818: depend on your
  656.  
  657. subscribers
  658. 10:38 PM
  659. me: Will that be approximately $25/month for you?
  660.  
  661. aa8818: it could be in the future
  662.  
  663. it can be $300
  664.  
  665. if so many
  666.  
  667. me: Interspire is one time fee
  668.  
  669. aa8818: at the moment i use it for free
  670.  
  671. one time fee
  672.  
  673. ?
  674.  
  675. me: Yes it can be $300
  676.  
  677. But interspire is one time fee
  678.  
  679. aa8818: if i send newsletter
  680.  
  681. we use interspire server?
  682. 10:39 PM
  683. me: You don't understand something here
  684.  
  685. let me explain
  686.  
  687. After interspire installation you will get a interface like this
  688. 10:40 PM
  689. Its only for admins
  690.  
  691. http://emailmarketer.interspire-demo.com/admin/?
  692.  
  693. just click login
  694.  
  695. aa8818: yep
  696.  
  697. i can see
  698.  
  699. me: There is no limit or monthly for this script
  700. 10:41 PM
  701. You just buying their license for $495 i think
  702.  
  703. its one time fee
  704.  
  705. Everything is unlimited
  706.  
  707. You can store upto 999999999999 mails
  708.  
  709. aa8818: so
  710.  
  711. i use my hosting
  712.  
  713. to send emails
  714.  
  715. right?
  716. 10:42 PM
  717. me: Yes you need to use your hosting,
  718.  
  719. Can't you afford vps
  720.  
  721. My vps costs $23/month
  722.  
  723. aa8818: wow
  724.  
  725. so i can install this
  726.  
  727. on a vps
  728. 10:43 PM
  729. and send unlimited emails?
  730.  
  731. me: Thats right
  732.  
  733. aa8818: how much do you charge to set this up
  734.  
  735. me: i bet there will be be oscommece integration plugin available for interspire. If everything available i'll setup everything for $30
  736. 10:44 PM
  737. aa8818: so this is cheaper
  738.  
  739. me: Thats my normal script installation fee
  740.  
  741. Yes
  742.  
  743. aa8818: than mailchimp
  744.  
  745. me: Thats right
  746.  
  747. Thats why i mentioned interspire in the beginning
  748. 10:45 PM
  749. It has many other features too
  750.  
  751. aa8818: can you download inspire cracked one?
  752. 10:46 PM
  753. me: Let me try. Also let me check oscommerce integration plugin available for interspire
  754. 10:48 PM
  755. aa8818: hey
  756.  
  757. i just read something
  758.  
  759. me: Incase you want to buy check these features
  760.  
  761. http://www.interspire.com/emailmarketer/features.php
  762.  
  763. aa8818: hey
  764.  
  765. self hosted
  766.  
  767. it might get blacklisted
  768.  
  769. me: No
  770.  
  771. aa8818: this is what ppl are saying
  772.  
  773. me: You will use nameservers
  774.  
  775. aa8818: on the internet
  776.  
  777. me: I used interspire
  778. 10:49 PM
  779. While purchasing vps you will get two nameservers for free
  780.  
  781. your nameservers looks like
  782.  
  783. ns1.yoursite.com
  784.  
  785. ns2.yoursite.com
  786.  
  787. if you keep sending spam mails
  788. 10:50 PM
  789. then your site will get blacklisted
  790.  
  791. But you are going top use this only for subscribed people
  792.  
  793. So you don't have to worry about that
  794.  
  795. aa8818: but
  796.  
  797. its the ISP
  798.  
  799. that is bloking
  800.  
  801. they dont know if my email is real or not
  802. 10:51 PM
  803. isn't it?
  804.  
  805. me: Ok please try to understand vps functuons
  806.  
  807. Your isp will blacklist your ip only if you send spam mails
  808. 10:52 PM
  809. While purcahsing your vps you will get two ip
  810.  
  811. They are fresh ips
  812. 10:53 PM
  813. Your ip will be blacklisted only if you send spam mails
  814.  
  815. aa8818: ok
  816.  
  817. but how do they know
  818.  
  819. if its spam or not
  820. 10:54 PM
  821. me: Spam means you sending mails without your users permission
  822. 10:55 PM
  823. But all your users confirm their subscription. While completion ip address and time will be logged
  824.  
  825. So its not spam if you send newletter to the
  826.  
  827. *them
  828.  
  829. aa8818: ok...
  830.  
  831. hey
  832.  
  833. interspire
  834. 10:56 PM
  835. if i get vps
  836.  
  837. do i just get new domain
  838.  
  839. i can name it whatever i want?
  840.  
  841. me: If you already have domain, you can use that too
  842.  
  843. aa8818: i mean
  844.  
  845. zoaex.com.au
  846.  
  847. this is already website
  848.  
  849. i can't use this
  850.  
  851. right
  852. 10:57 PM
  853. me: You can use
  854.  
  855. aa8818: where do you recommend i get vps from
  856.  
  857. me: But it will take some time until its propagtyion
  858.  
  859. If you have money buy extra domain
  860.  
  861. I have more than 10 domains
  862. 10:58 PM
  863. So buy one
  864.  
  865. I didn't mean to buy my domains
  866.  
  867. aa8818: lol
  868. 10:59 PM
  869. where do i get vps
  870.  
  871. which is good
  872.  
  873. me: Are you gonna buy now?
  874.  
  875. aa8818: no
  876.  
  877. i have to compare interspire
  878.  
  879. to mailchimp
  880. 11:00 PM
  881. me: You don't have to compare it. My experience talking here
  882.  
  883. aa8818: ok
  884.  
  885. so where do i get vps
  886.  
  887. me: Once arvixe offered me 50% discount coupon for my initial purcahse. Let me check whether its stiull availble
  888. 11:01 PM
  889. Arvixe is one of the good hosting by the way
  890.  
  891. You can buy hostgator too. That has good reputation
  892.  
  893. aa8818: its $40
  894. 11:02 PM
  895. hey
  896.  
  897. i have to sleep
  898.  
  899. 4:30am
  900.  
  901. me: With coupon you can get iot for $20
  902.  
  903. aa8818: ill think this over and we chat tomorrow
  904.  
  905. me: Yes
  906.  
  907. aa8818: thanks
  908.  
  909. i think you are good dev
  910.  
  911. me: But still my payment pending
  912.  
  913. aa8818: hey
  914.  
  915. ill help you get refund
  916.  
  917. me: How?
  918.  
  919. aa8818: we cancel the project
  920. 11:03 PM
  921. me: What about my time?
  922.  
  923. aa8818: man
  924.  
  925. i spend my time too man
  926.  
  927. i will give you that other project
  928.  
  929. me: Now this is why i asked payment before
  930.  
  931. All you said is trust me
  932.  
  933. aa8818: but
  934.  
  935. this is something different
  936.  
  937. you can't just jump in
  938. 11:04 PM
  939. and not finish it
  940.  
  941. you have to see it from my point of view too
  942.  
  943. this is why i dont pay until its finished
  944.  
  945. if i pay you
  946.  
  947. and you say
  948.  
  949. i can't finsih
  950.  
  951. then it take my time to find another dev
  952.  
  953. explain everything again
  954.  
  955. it same thing man
  956.  
  957. me: Things are different. I finished the project what i quoted in scriptlance. Then you asked me for additional task.
  958. 11:05 PM
  959. Thats why i asked extra $20
  960.  
  961. aa8818: this is why we chat
  962.  
  963. dont do this please
  964.  
  965. i have a headache
  966.  
  967. i thought you will finish this
  968.  
  969. that is why we started the project
  970.  
  971. me: Listen bro, I'm a freelancer. It doesn't mean you can use my time
  972. 11:06 PM
  973. aa8818: man
  974.  
  975. what you did
  976.  
  977. those are no use to me
  978. 11:07 PM
  979. me: What you mean no use?. You are the one who give me permission to do it. Now you changed your mind and saying they are no use to you
  980.  
  981. aa8818: hey
  982.  
  983. in scriptlance
  984.  
  985. i clearly said
  986.  
  987. api
  988.  
  989. this is your opinion mate
  990.  
  991. i have my demands too
  992. 11:08 PM
  993. dont do this
  994.  
  995. i want to do the other project with you
  996.  
  997. me: I clearly said i can't use api before i satrt thr project since it requires additional work
  998.  
  999. aa8818: no you didn't
  1000.  
  1001. me: Yes i did
  1002.  
  1003. aa8818: man
  1004.  
  1005. me: Check your chat history
  1006.  
  1007. aa8818: you check it mate
  1008.  
  1009. i don't want to argue
  1010.  
  1011. mate
  1012.  
  1013. dont do this
  1014.  
  1015. me: How can you do this to me?
  1016.  
  1017. aa8818: i'm too sleepy for all this
  1018.  
  1019. how can you do this to me mate
  1020. 11:09 PM
  1021. me: I spent more than 4 hours
  1022.  
  1023. aa8818: man............
  1024.  
  1025. this is a pain
  1026.  
  1027. like i said
  1028.  
  1029. we'll do more work together
  1030.  
  1031. this is part of learning process
  1032.  
  1033. between us
  1034.  
  1035. me: After this incident i'm afraid we can work together
  1036.  
  1037. aa8818: oh man
  1038. 11:10 PM
  1039. i think we should work together
  1040.  
  1041. please
  1042.  
  1043. let me leave
  1044.  
  1045. i have to sleep
  1046.  
  1047. its nearly 5am
  1048.  
  1049. me: No unless you pay another 11.5
  1050.  
  1051. aa8818: its been crazy day for me man
  1052.  
  1053. wat the hell
  1054.  
  1055. im not paying you anything man
  1056.  
  1057. wat is this
  1058.  
  1059. this is why i told you to reverse it
  1060.  
  1061. me: I quoted $20 for the project
  1062. 11:11 PM
  1063. aa8818: hey
  1064.  
  1065. listen mate
  1066.  
  1067. the project is not even finished
  1068.  
  1069. and i mentioned
  1070.  
  1071. api in the project
  1072.  
  1073. you didn't even do it
  1074.  
  1075. you sounded so confident
  1076.  
  1077. in pmb
  1078.  
  1079. you said
  1080.  
  1081. just take it
  1082.  
  1083. me: No i finished what i said clearly
  1084.  
  1085. aa8818: i took it
  1086.  
  1087. you didn't do api
  1088.  
  1089. you said you can't do it
  1090.  
  1091. you pulled out man
  1092. 11:12 PM
  1093. wat is this man
  1094.  
  1095. i dont want to argue
  1096.  
  1097. ok
  1098.  
  1099. shit happens
  1100.  
  1101. just take it
  1102.  
  1103. we'll do other work together
  1104.  
  1105. ok
  1106.  
  1107. not this one
  1108.  
  1109. go back to the project
  1110.  
  1111. dscription
  1112.  
  1113. read what i put there
  1114.  
  1115. i clearly put
  1116.  
  1117. api
  1118.  
  1119. the link is there too
  1120.  
  1121. you said you'
  1122.  
  1123. ve done mailchimp
  1124. 11:13 PM
  1125. you said just take it
  1126.  
  1127. i took it
  1128.  
  1129. and then after
  1130.  
  1131. you tell me api is too complex???
  1132.  
  1133. me: Listen bro, if you are just trying to cheat me, you will definitely can't live happy
  1134.  
  1135. aa8818: what
  1136.  
  1137. im not trying to cheat you man
  1138.  
  1139. im just standing by my word
  1140.  
  1141. me: Its really hurting man
  1142.  
  1143. aa8818: just check the project description
  1144.  
  1145. its hurting me too
  1146.  
  1147. but it doesn't work like this
  1148. 11:14 PM
  1149. you can't just do work
  1150.  
  1151. how you like it
  1152.  
  1153. and tell me pay
  1154.  
  1155. im the buyer
  1156.  
  1157. you are seller
  1158.  
  1159. you sell anything
  1160.  
  1161. and tell me to pay
  1162.  
  1163. ?
  1164.  
  1165. it doesn't work like this man
  1166.  
  1167. look mate
  1168.  
  1169. we'll do that other
  1170.  
  1171. project together
  1172.  
  1173. the $150 one
  1174.  
  1175. ok
  1176. 11:15 PM
  1177. ill get this to you within 2 days
  1178.  
  1179. just calm down
  1180.  
  1181. me: Are you making fun of me?
  1182.  
  1183. aa8818: and let me sleep
  1184.  
  1185. what?
  1186.  
  1187. making fun of you?
  1188.  
  1189. me: i see you hired other guy for that project
  1190.  
  1191. and telling me you gonna give me that project
  1192.  
  1193. aa8818: nah
  1194.  
  1195. that guy is dodge
  1196. 11:16 PM
  1197. im not making fun of you brother
  1198.  
  1199. you'll get that
  1200.  
  1201. i just need to settle things with that person first
  1202.  
  1203. ok
  1204.  
  1205. let me sleep
  1206.  
  1207. we'll chat tomorrow
  1208. 11:17 PM
  1209. hey what is your website by the way
  1210.  
  1211. me: What website?
  1212.  
  1213. aa8818: your personal one
  1214. 11:18 PM
  1215. me: HEy please don't change the topic. I'm still thinking whether i should continue to work with you or not
  1216.  
  1217. You were saying i didn't do the job
  1218.  
  1219. Its just 4 hours
  1220.  
  1221. i can go with that
  1222. 11:19 PM
  1223. What if i work in a big project and if you say like i didn't do anything
  1224.  
  1225. Things are different
  1226.  
  1227. aa8818: well
  1228.  
  1229. me: You already knew
  1230.  
  1231. aa8818: so
  1232.  
  1233. before you jump into project
  1234.  
  1235. you have to ask specific questions
  1236.  
  1237. me: i'm not going to use api for this project
  1238. 11:20 PM
  1239. You given me instructions clearly. And the thing i trusted you is just because you have good feedback
  1240. 11:21 PM
  1241. Mostly people who has good feedback have good reputation
  1242.  
  1243. aa8818: i hav good reputation
  1244.  
  1245. u have 1 feedback
  1246.  
  1247. i would have paid you
  1248.  
  1249. if it was something useful
  1250.  
  1251. do you not have some other project to attend to
  1252. 11:22 PM
  1253. why are you not letting me sleep
  1254.  
  1255. me: Ok why should i advise everything you asked so far?
  1256.  
  1257. aa8818: huh?
  1258.  
  1259. advise what
  1260.  
  1261. me: Use that use this? what is vps? what is nameservers? blah blah
  1262.  
  1263. aa8818: oh
  1264.  
  1265. right
  1266. 11:23 PM
  1267. i see
  1268.  
  1269. so you regret chatting with me as well
  1270.  
  1271. is it
  1272.  
  1273. ?
  1274.  
  1275. me: Ofcourse, if i get pay for my time, why should i worry?
  1276.  
  1277. aa8818: u want me to pay for chatting time as well?
  1278. 11:24 PM
  1279. me: I didn't ask you to pay for chatting
  1280.  
  1281. aa8818: be a friend ok
  1282.  
  1283. me: I asked you to pay for the job i done
  1284.  
  1285. aa8818: the job that i dont need
  1286.  
  1287. the code you put in
  1288.  
  1289. will disappear
  1290.  
  1291. me: Are you kidding me? I have no idea how your face look like? How can i be your friend
  1292.  
  1293. aa8818: hey
  1294. 11:25 PM
  1295. this is turning out to be a really bad experience
  1296.  
  1297. i thought we'll do much more
  1298.  
  1299. bro
  1300.  
  1301. i dont like to do this
  1302.  
  1303. come on mate
  1304.  
  1305. i will give you that $150 job
  1306.  
  1307. ill pay you bonus when you finish
  1308.  
  1309. so just let me go sleep
  1310.  
  1311. ok
  1312.  
  1313. me: Let me ask you something
  1314. 11:26 PM
  1315. aa8818: you have your opinion
  1316.  
  1317. i have mine
  1318.  
  1319. no one is right
  1320.  
  1321. so lets just leave it at that
  1322.  
  1323. me: I trusted you for your $20 job. But you didn't paay
  1324.  
  1325. How can i trust your $150 job and work on that
  1326.  
  1327. aa8818: ill make escrow
  1328. 11:27 PM
  1329. you said you are good at wordpress
  1330.  
  1331. now
  1332.  
  1333. before
  1334.  
  1335. we start
  1336.  
  1337. i will ask you every thing
  1338.  
  1339. you check everything too
  1340.  
  1341. then we'll be fine
  1342. 11:28 PM
  1343. me: Lets forget the wordpress project man. $20 is much for freelancers like me. Why can't you give it?
  1344.  
  1345. aa8818: $20 is lot for me too
  1346.  
  1347. me: But i'm the one who worked in your site
  1348.  
  1349. aa8818: you shouldn't work like this
  1350. 11:29 PM
  1351. me: Like what?
  1352.  
  1353. aa8818: i have never had this kind of problem
  1354.  
  1355. me: But why me?
  1356.  
  1357. aa8818: because
  1358.  
  1359. you were over confident maybe
  1360. 11:30 PM
  1361. me: LEt me give you proof
  1362.  
  1363. aa8818: hey
  1364.  
  1365. viruthagiri
  1366.  
  1367. hey
  1368.  
  1369. mate
  1370.  
  1371. hey
  1372.  
  1373. hey
  1374.  
  1375. mate
  1376.  
  1377. are you listening
  1378.  
  1379. how old r u
  1380.  
  1381. this is childish
  1382.  
  1383. mate
  1384.  
  1385. listen
  1386. 11:31 PM
  1387. before our relationship gets worse
  1388.  
  1389. lets stop it right here
  1390.  
  1391. i told you
  1392.  
  1393. its 5am
  1394.  
  1395. i have to sleep
  1396.  
  1397. me: Yes, because mature people like you know how to cheat and childish people like me always get cheted
  1398.  
  1399. aa8818: lets chat tomorrow
  1400.  
  1401. ?
  1402.  
  1403. this is crazy
  1404.  
  1405. you always get cheated?
  1406. 11:32 PM
  1407. oh my god.....
  1408.  
  1409. me: This is what you said
  1410.  
  1411. hey
  1412.  
  1413. i think i have to think about this
  1414. 5:48 PM
  1415. because i heard using api is better
  1416.  
  1417. is it ok if i think for a while
  1418.  
  1419. i have to do some research
  1420.  
  1421. me: sure go on
  1422.  
  1423. aa8818: you do this to other people too?
  1424.  
  1425. me: Now tell me who is the cheater?
  1426.  
  1427. aa8818: no one
  1428. 11:33 PM
  1429. dont call me cheater
  1430.  
  1431. me: Ok. Then tell me only one thing
  1432.  
  1433. aa8818: what
  1434.  
  1435. me: Did you said this or not?
  1436. 11:34 PM
  1437. hey
  1438. i think i have to think about this
  1439. 5:48 PM
  1440. because i heard using api is better
  1441. is it ok if i think for a while
  1442. i have to do some research
  1443.  
  1444. aa8818: i said that
  1445.  
  1446. tell me one thing
  1447.  
  1448. hey
  1449.  
  1450. mate
  1451.  
  1452. listen
  1453.  
  1454. can you check the project
  1455.  
  1456. in the first line
  1457.  
  1458. what does it say
  1459.  
  1460. I have oscommerce website that needs mailchimp api installed.
  1461.  
  1462. ok?
  1463.  
  1464. first line
  1465.  
  1466. the first line
  1467.  
  1468. I have oscommerce website that needs mailchimp api installed.
  1469.  
  1470. ok?
  1471. 11:35 PM
  1472. did u do anyof it?
  1473.  
  1474. ok
  1475.  
  1476. me: Listen, it doesn't matter what you said in the project. But after clarification you do knopw very well i'm not going to use that
  1477.  
  1478. aa8818: no
  1479.  
  1480. me: api
  1481.  
  1482. aa8818: after clarification
  1483.  
  1484. i thought
  1485.  
  1486. you knew better thatn me
  1487. 11:36 PM
  1488. but you do it the wrong way
  1489.  
  1490. me: So why you were going to cancel the project
  1491.  
  1492. ?
  1493.  
  1494. aa8818: because you can't do api
  1495.  
  1496. omg
  1497. 11:37 PM
  1498. me: Yes, then why you given me the job again?
  1499.  
  1500. aa8818: haha
  1501.  
  1502. because you asked for it
  1503.  
  1504. and then you changed it
  1505.  
  1506. i select your bid
  1507.  
  1508. then you cahnged it
  1509.  
  1510. me: I didn't ask go and check the chat history
  1511.  
  1512. aa8818: wha....?
  1513.  
  1514. you bid
  1515.  
  1516. you said pick you
  1517.  
  1518. i picked you
  1519.  
  1520. and then you said
  1521. 11:38 PM
  1522. you have better way
  1523.  
  1524. i thought it was better
  1525.  
  1526. trusted you
  1527.  
  1528. but after a while
  1529.  
  1530. its wrong way
  1531.  
  1532. me: You trusted me?
  1533.  
  1534. aa8818: yes
  1535.  
  1536. of course i did
  1537.  
  1538. you think i didn't trust you
  1539.  
  1540. ?
  1541.  
  1542. why would i work with you
  1543.  
  1544. if i didn't trust you
  1545.  
  1546. why would i pick you
  1547.  
  1548. out of all those people
  1549.  
  1550. because i trusted you
  1551. 11:39 PM
  1552. because you place a bid
  1553.  
  1554. i picked you
  1555.  
  1556. i thoguth you read
  1557.  
  1558. me: Can you do me a favour?
  1559.  
  1560. aa8818: the description
  1561.  
  1562. what
  1563. 11:40 PM
  1564. me: Please don't ever hire me again, even if its $1000 project. You said i didn't work as you asked. If god really exists i hope he will take care of it.
  1565.  
  1566. aa8818: ye
  1567.  
  1568. i'm sorry you feel that way
  1569.  
  1570. but i stand to my word
  1571. 11:41 PM
  1572. read the project description
  1573.  
  1574. ok
  1575.  
  1576. me: No you didn't
  1577.  
  1578. aa8818: read the project description before you bid
  1579.  
  1580. ok
  1581.  
  1582. and none of this will happen
  1583.  
  1584. please
  1585.  
  1586. read it next time
  1587.  
  1588. me: Ok, let me ask you something?, I see that you changed passwords and all other stuffs?
  1589. 11:42 PM
  1590. What makes you think i didn't do any other thing in your website for security purpose?
  1591.  
  1592. aa8818: omg
  1593.  
  1594. you are crazy
  1595. 11:43 PM
  1596. me: No. You drive me crazy
  1597.  
  1598. aa8818: wat is this
  1599.  
  1600. a threat
  1601.  
  1602. ?
  1603.  
  1604. me: No
  1605.  
  1606. I'm just asking
  1607.  
  1608. aa8818: you are turning out to be a real nighmare
  1609.  
  1610. nightmare
  1611.  
  1612. me: You are the one who said that
  1613. 11:44 PM
  1614. If i don't pay i can hack my site
  1615.  
  1616. "if i don't pay you can hack my site"
  1617.  
  1618. this is what you mentioned
  1619.  
  1620. aa8818: that is after work doen
  1621.  
  1622. me: yes, but i done my job, and you said everything works fine
  1623. 11:45 PM
  1624. aa8818: ye
  1625.  
  1626. so did you break my website now?
  1627.  
  1628. me: I'm not gonna say anything
  1629.  
  1630. bye
  1631. me: Hey you still there?
  1632.  
  1633. aa8818: yes...
  1634. 11:59 PM
  1635. me: man, just read the chat history and think 5 minutes, what you argued so far is right.. You knew i'm not going to use api. So you were gonna cancel the project. After some minutes you given me permission to do it. I integrated the code in sidebar and told you to check it. You said it looks nice. Again i integrated it in the slider. You said again it looks nice. Now you telling me i didn't work as you asked. You have good reputation. But why are you doing like this for $20?
  1636.  
  1637. aa8818: because i dont have much money
  1638. 12:00 AM
  1639. if the work was done
  1640.  
  1641. i would have happily paid you
  1642.  
  1643. im sorry but i cannot pay you for what i dont need
  1644.  
  1645. i will give you $150 job
  1646.  
  1647. ok
  1648.  
  1649. me: When?
  1650.  
  1651. aa8818: lets chat about this tomorrow
  1652. 12:01 AM
  1653. within 2 days
  1654.  
  1655. me: And one more thing, since you are friendly now i'll tell you something
  1656. 9 minutes
  1657. 12:10 AM
  1658. me: I got cheated more than 15 times so far. I do all the programming but people just run away by changing login details without paying me. I usually add some hacking code in if the user looks fishy. But i didn't add it in your site. When i ask escrow you didn't agreed initially. So you looked fishy and added those lines. Usually i delete that code after the payment made. In your case it still stays in your website. The code actually drops the database if i trigger it from outside. I'm sorry. I added that line just to prevent getting cheated.
  1659. 12:11 AM
  1660. aa8818: you are a bad man
  1661.  
  1662. me: I believe you will compensate my time by giving me some other work
  1663. 12:12 AM
  1664. No i'm not. I'm bad only if i keep the code
  1665.  
  1666. aa8818: i can see
  1667.  
  1668. no
  1669.  
  1670. i can see
  1671.  
  1672. why you get cheated 15 times
  1673.  
  1674. its the way you work
  1675.  
  1676. me: No
  1677.  
  1678. aa8818: you push buyers
  1679.  
  1680. its insane
  1681.  
  1682. me: No
  1683.  
  1684. aa8818: you pushed me into this project
  1685.  
  1686. me: Let me explain man
  1687.  
  1688. aa8818: hey
  1689.  
  1690. so where did you putt he code
  1691. 12:13 AM
  1692. me: Let me explain
  1693. 12:14 AM
  1694. I'm working as a freelance for more than 2 years now. I have a professional degree. So i'm professional in my work. But some people like you just cheating me by saying reasons
  1695.  
  1696. aa8818: no
  1697. 12:15 AM
  1698. you pushed me
  1699.  
  1700. into this project
  1701.  
  1702. me: Pushed?
  1703.  
  1704. aa8818: and you are acting like a monster
  1705.  
  1706. its horrible
  1707.  
  1708. you are threatening me
  1709.  
  1710. i feel really bad
  1711.  
  1712. this is something that i dont want to experience
  1713.  
  1714. especially when i should be sleeping
  1715. 12:16 AM
  1716. so where did you put the code in
  1717.  
  1718. tell me
  1719.  
  1720. or is this another lie of yours
  1721.  
  1722. me: Yes me too. Just pay my money, i'll give you the instructions to remove the code
  1723. 12:17 AM
  1724. aa8818: i checked
  1725.  
  1726. there is no code
  1727.  
  1728. me: ok cool
  1729.  
  1730. aa8818: do you know why you get cheated
  1731.  
  1732. me: Just hire a programmer
  1733.  
  1734. aa8818: because you dont read
  1735.  
  1736. me: and check your files
  1737.  
  1738. aa8818: you are horrible
  1739.  
  1740. monster
  1741.  
  1742. i try to be friendl
  1743.  
  1744. y
  1745.  
  1746. you give me this threat
  1747. 12:18 AM
  1748. oh my god
  1749.  
  1750. i will never hire someone with less than 5 feedback
  1751.  
  1752. this is crazy
  1753.  
  1754. me: Listen bro, i'm friendly now
  1755.  
  1756. aa8818: you have killed me
  1757.  
  1758. already
  1759.  
  1760. ok
  1761.  
  1762. im sure you are happy
  1763.  
  1764. me: but you are chaeter
  1765.  
  1766. aa8818: no
  1767.  
  1768. im not a cheater
  1769.  
  1770. wtf
  1771.  
  1772. you didn't read the project
  1773.  
  1774. you are the cheater
  1775.  
  1776. dont call me cheater
  1777. 12:19 AM
  1778. me: Ok, Go to sleep
  1779.  
  1780. aa8818: i think i will have nightmare
  1781.  
  1782. oh my god
  1783.  
  1784. i try to fix a simple website
  1785.  
  1786. and i get into this dark pit
  1787.  
  1788. i thought i knew how internet was
  1789.  
  1790. man....
  1791.  
  1792. im speechless
  1793. 12:20 AM
  1794. i get threats like this
  1795.  
  1796. fuck man
  1797.  
  1798. this is scary
  1799.  
  1800. do you have family
  1801.  
  1802. me: Yes because you chaeted me and you deserve this
  1803.  
  1804. aa8818: no
  1805.  
  1806. me: Everyone has family
  1807.  
  1808. aa8818: you cheated me
  1809.  
  1810. ye
  1811.  
  1812. i hope you have good family man
  1813.  
  1814. omg
  1815.  
  1816. im shivering
  1817. 12:21 AM
  1818. this is internet attack
  1819.  
  1820. isn't it
  1821.  
  1822. never experienced this
  1823.  
  1824. and its coming from someone with 1 feedback
  1825.  
  1826. oh my lord
  1827. 12:22 AM
  1828. me: Listen man, i didn't do anything in your site so far. Yes but i worked in your site and you were saying i didn't read the project after project complettion
  1829.  
  1830. aa8818: you know what
  1831.  
  1832. you are really bad at communicating
  1833.  
  1834. maybe that is why you got cheated many times
  1835.  
  1836. because you threat people
  1837.  
  1838. me: Yes i know, Good thing is i'm not bad in programming
  1839.  
  1840. aa8818: like a criminal
  1841. 12:23 AM
  1842. you are a criminal man
  1843.  
  1844. grow up
  1845.  
  1846. dont scare people off
  1847.  
  1848. this is not the way to live man
  1849.  
  1850. are you married?
  1851.  
  1852. me: Yes, if you give me my money, why do i insert that code?
  1853.  
  1854. I asked you
  1855. 12:24 AM
  1856. But all you said trust me
  1857.  
  1858. aa8818: hey
  1859.  
  1860. stop threatening me
  1861.  
  1862. its very offensive
  1863. 12:25 AM
  1864. me: Yes, i didn't threaten you. I'm asking money for the job i done
  1865.  
  1866. aa8818: im asking for my peace
  1867.  
  1868. i wish i never met you
  1869.  
  1870. me: You have two options bro
  1871.  
  1872. aa8818: you have 1 option
  1873.  
  1874. me: Pay my money or hire a programmer
  1875. 12:26 AM
  1876. If you hire a programmer he will definitely cost you $100
  1877.  
  1878. aa8818: this is not about the money
  1879.  
  1880. you are threatening me
  1881.  
  1882. and i dont like this
  1883.  
  1884. me: Oh its not about the money.
  1885.  
  1886. Then why didn't you pay me?
  1887. 12:27 AM
  1888. And tel;ling me to use cracfked softawre?
  1889.  
  1890. You are no different than me
  1891.  
  1892. If you are good business man you never asked me to use cracked softawre
  1893. 12:28 AM
  1894. And the best thing you would have paid me
  1895.  
  1896. But you didn't
  1897.  
  1898. Listen i have no time to chat with you
  1899.  
  1900. bye
  1901. 12:30 AM
  1902. Go to sleep man, We will decide tomorrow
  1903.  
  1904. aa8818: i feel sick
  1905.  
  1906. me: And don't worry your site will be fine
  1907.  
  1908. aa8818: ye thanks for that
  1909. 12:31 AM
  1910. my gosh
  1911.  
  1912. me: OK let me ask you something
  1913.  
  1914. You know i deserve my $20. Why can't you just pay it and let me instruct you how to remove the code?
  1915. 12:32 AM
  1916. aa8818: if i thought you deserve it
  1917.  
  1918. i would have paid you
  1919. 12:33 AM
  1920. me: Oh, so you will chat with me for 5 hours i'll give you every instructions i'll code everything, you just later don't like the way it ended and ask me to revert it back and then tell me you didn't do what iasked
  1921. 12:37 AM
  1922. Come on man, You know who you are dealing with. I'm a experienced programmer but you are businessman. If you are right i never worried too much for $20. But you are wrong. You know everything. But finally you changed your words. If you paid my $20 i would have removed it without telling you anything.
  1923.  
  1924. But you didn't pay
  1925.  
  1926. aa8818: stop threatening me
  1927.  
  1928. did you threat those 15 people
  1929.  
  1930. man
  1931.  
  1932. you kill a lot of people
  1933. 12:38 AM
  1934. me: Again i'm not threatening you. I'm asking y money. Please undersatnd the eaning of threatening
  1935.  
  1936. *meaning
  1937.  
  1938. aa8818: if i feel threatened
  1939.  
  1940. that is threatening
  1941.  
  1942. its like rape
  1943.  
  1944. you are crazy
  1945. 12:39 AM
  1946. me: Listen if you really make me angry i'll lose only my $20 but you will lose everything. Please understand the situation. There is more dignity in it
  1947. 12:40 AM
  1948. Again, just take a good night sleep and come back tomorrow
  1949. 12:43 AM
  1950. Its already 12:45am here. i'll be here for the next two hours. If you changed your mind to pay the money let me know. I'll send you the instructions
  1951.  
  1952. to remove the code
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