@partys over 開: max hp + max def impish
@partys over 開: isnt a thnig
#DEG: lax runs
#DEG: 132/252
pqs: 252 SpA Choice Specs Greninja Hydro Cannon vs. +1 0 HP / 4 SpD Tyranitar-Mega: 356-420 (104.3 - 123.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
pqs: we could ev
+motogp: partys over isnt this the standard set
chrispyburns: http://pokepast.es/afbee58074b6215c
pqs: tEETar
@partys over 開: 252 Atk Lopunny-Mega High Jump Kick vs. 132 HP / 252 Def Snorlax: 452-534 (91.4 - 108%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
@partys over 開: ok
@partys over 開: i dont think this spread is common
pqs: its a mindgame
+motogp: the niche of altaria is that it can run cotto guard,roost,ddance and more
@partys over 開: most run 252
pqs: because protect
+motogp: you dont have any of these
Francy~y: what about
Francy~y: a snorlax and naganadel ban
+motogp: +altaria counters dos
@partys over 開: xd
@partys over 開: loses to gren
chrispyburns: now were talking francy
+motogp: why ban naganadel
@partys over 開: and prolly naga
+motogp: just ban lax
@partys over 開: it was
@partys over 開: a joke
@partys over 開: i think
+motogp: HOW ABOUT WE USE DRAGONIRE
chrispyburns: ez
+motogp: *dragonite
TehPazzaaaMan: Guys
TehPazzaaaMan: Wartortle
TehPazzaaaMan: wins
Francy~y: lol eviolite wartortle
chrispyburns: imo lets scarf a jirachi and hope for the best
chrispyburns: I think we should vote on which of the threats to get 3-0'd by
Francy~y: what about
Francy~y: sableye mega
@partys over 開: mimi
@partys over 開: ok
 Poll ended last move v.2
1. rock slide / edge (for counter zard) (7 votes)
 54%
2. iron head (lele + flinching?) (1 vote)
 8%
3. fire fang (ferrothorn) (5 votes)
 38%
@partys over 開: rock slide or edge
chrispyburns: slide
pqs: tyranitar wins against everything
Francy~y: fuck mimikyu and fml
pqs: if evd
@partys over 開: mimi lax gren nagandel
@partys over 開: ttar seems to be a stetch tbh
+motogp: whats the team?
chrispyburns: I think we should lose against lax
TehPazzaaaMan: Zygarde?
@partys over 開: has to live gren and mimi zmove
+motogp: till now
@partys over 開: occa whims / chomp
chrispyburns: suicune
chrispyburns: with whirlpool
chrispyburns: fast and ez gg
chrispyburns: mirror coat that greninja, if they darkpulse, bam whirlpoos
chrispyburns: l
#DEG: only thing close to perfection is
Francy~y: scarf victini ?_?
#DEG: mega lopunny
chrispyburns: ye
@partys over 開: okie
chrispyburns: I like both of those
chrispyburns: rip altaria
@partys over 開: oh i forgot that
pqs: Tyranitar-Mega @ Tyranitarite
pqs: Ability: Sand Stream
pqs: EVs: 20 Atk / 96 Def / 248 SpD / 144 Spe
pqs: Adamant Nature
@partys over 開: but it doesnt beat shit
@partys over 開: tbh
chrispyburns: true
chrispyburns: bc lax really messes this shit up
chrispyburns: wait we need to beat landot
Thisisyourdestiny: My own mimikyu
+motogp: lopunny doesnt beat lax
U0P: Kartana beating Gren
chrispyburns: I'm fine with losing against lax
@partys over 開: scarf kart
@partys over 開: maybe
Edgar Allan Poem: ttar y/y
@partys over 開: ?
chrispyburns: mimik and gren are common af
U0P: Scarf Kartana beating Snorlax
U0P: That's a good one
@partys over 開: ok bros im out
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@partys over 開: lol
pqs: rof
chrispyburns: cya partys
@partys over 開: deg ic Blazikin handle this
#DEG: partys over
#DEG: give me
#DEG: team
#DEG: pokepaste
#DEG: or does anyone else have it
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+motogp: subflail lopunny or giga impact?
chrispyburns: http://pokepast.es/a1672b24cd11c2f3
MaceMaster: not lopunny; it doesn'
MaceMaster: t beat mimi
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chrispyburns: true
chrispyburns: it could beat dumb ones
%MaceMaster: nor does dragonite
Thisisyourdestiny: Lol you need something to beat metagross
pqs: t t a r
pqs: t t a r
pqs: !!
#DEG: MaceMaster take over
chrispyburns: what does manaphy beat
#DEG: :^)
#DEG: thanks
%MaceMaster: scarf kartana seems best
+motogp: doesnt fake out+giga impact kill
chrispyburns: unless cursekyu protects
%MaceMaster: no, good mimikyus run lots of bulk
pqs: mimi lax gren nagandel
%MaceMaster: and cursekyu has protect^
pqs: volcanion
pqs: ?
chrispyburns: lando?
chrispyburns: scarf volcanion?
#DEG: yea
#DEG: I was going to say
#DEG: volcanion
pqs: sUre
#DEG: loses to lax
#DEG: tho
%MaceMaster: so that pastebin above is the team, right?
#DEG: yes
pqs: physical
chrispyburns: ye
+motogp: +6 252+ Atk Snorlax Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Kartana: 301-354 (116.2 - 136.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
#DEG: I'd go with sub sd steelium-z
%MaceMaster: whimsicott is a good enough lax check
chrispyburns: is 252+ attack the common lax?
Thisisyourdestiny: Why you gotta beat lax
Thisisyourdestiny: when you have whims
chrispyburns: ^^^
%MaceMaster: and naganadel wins if not scarf kartana
+motogp: !code
See code...
Whimsicott @ Occa Berry
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 100 Def / 160 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Protect
- Leech Seed
- Moonblast

Garchomp @ Choice Band
Ability: Rough Skin
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Outrage
- Earthquake
- Aqua Tail
- Rock Slide
%MaceMaster: as does ninja
#DEG: o
Thisisyourdestiny: Beat metagross and call it a day
+motogp: partys doesnt like that
%MaceMaster: what's aqua tail for on chomp???
Thisisyourdestiny: and gyara
+motogp: i do tho
chrispyburns: its for slower lando-ts and heatran
+motogp: so leaf blade sacred swords psycho cut?
pqs: night slash kartana
pqs: y/y/y/y/y/y/y
Thisisyourdestiny: that seems horrifically bad
Thisisyourdestiny: party tv
pqs: noU
%MaceMaster: outrage does the same damage as aqua tail to lando-t while lando OHKOs chomp
Thisisyourdestiny: aka psyco cut kartana god
%MaceMaster: but heatran seems reasonable
Thisisyourdestiny: it doesnt mace
#DEG: doesn't fling
#DEG: beat heatran
Thisisyourdestiny: its a roll
#DEG: lol
#DEG: fling+Eq
#DEG: bops balloon
%MaceMaster: yes!
%MaceMaster: let's do it; fling chomp
pqs: hp ice
#DEG: it flinches
#DEG: heatran
%MaceMaster: you'd need kings rock for flinch
#DEG: oh
%MaceMaster: yeah...
#DEG: why did I think
#DEG: it flinches
#DEG: everytime
%MaceMaster: lol
chrispyburns: it should
#DEG: imo finish this before i sleep
#DEG: so I can post asap on smogon
Thisisyourdestiny: Literally
Thisisyourdestiny: use primarina
Thisisyourdestiny: and you’re done
Thisisyourdestiny: whims chomp prim
#DEG: naga
Thisisyourdestiny: just one more team that gets swept by specs zone
#DEG: 3-0s
pqs: because when you throw a rOck at someone they flinch
+motogp: DEG i will post it
Thisisyourdestiny: make it live naga
#DEG: ok motogp
#DEG: make it good formatting
+motogp: we lose to venusaur
#DEG: Post 1v1 CCAT #1
+motogp: DEG wdym
#DEG: :^)
#DEG: w/ bold
#DEG: and put sprites
@partys over 開: Hello what have we come to a conclusion of
+motogp: i am bad at sprites
+motogp: just paste me
#DEG: well ill post it then
#DEG: tmrw
@partys over 開: ehsts the team
@partys over 開: bros.
chrispyburns: I'll get it
chrispyburns: I'm good with sprties
#DEG: they changed aqua aqua tail
#DEG: to fling
+motogp: paste me the whole thing on smogon dm and i'll post it
pqs: re
pqs: use venu
pqs: max spatK
+motogp: yes but venusaur wins
+motogp: and i dont like mirror matchups
chrispyburns: gallade could be better
pqs: mimi lax gren nagandel
chrispyburns: we gotta choose what to be 3-0'd by
#DEG: lel
chrispyburns: also add mvenus
#DEG: Naganadel
#DEG: Just use Mega Scizor
#DEG: w/ Curse
chrispyburns: does it beat ferro?
pqs: scrafty
#DEG: yes
chrispyburns: and but not genesect
pqs: no nvm
pqs: wait
%MaceMaster: i think we need to reconsider chomp
pqs: why do we need to beat mimikyu
chrispyburns: sure
%MaceMaster: there's like 20 things that those 2 mons lose to
pqs: okj
pqs: how about virizion
#DEG: well just lead it MaceMaster
#DEG: and post the team on smogon
#DEG: when ur done
%MaceMaster: okay
chrispyburns: (why did we start with whim)
Thisisyourdestiny: Wut about stall snorlax
Thisisyourdestiny: hmmm
chrispyburns: (and not mvenus)
+motogp: should we add a bit more spd
+motogp: on whimsi
+motogp: to beat magearna
chrispyburns: honestly whim + koko
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chrispyburns: then something for poisons
There is already a poll in progress in this room.
chrispyburns: but we're not doing monofairy
(The poll was ended by MaceMaster.)
 Poll ended which would you want that beats mimikyu + lax + gren + nagandel
1. registeel (1 vote)
 10%
2. lop (5 votes)
 50%
3. a super fat ttar (3 votes)
 30%
4. dragonite (1 vote)
 10%
5. kartana (0 votes)
 0%
(The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
(A poll was started by MaceMaster.)
chrispyburns: whim + lando t
chrispyburns: ??
pqs: sawk
pqs: sawk
chrispyburns: nah kyurem
+motogp: i thought of sawk
chrispyburns: hmm
pqs: nobody would send out cursekyu
pqs: because they see sawk
pqs: cursekyu doesnt run ss
pqs: irc
+motogp: how about lele
%MaceMaster: idk about lele
%MaceMaster: steels are a huge problem, then
%MaceMaster: sawk seems okay, maybe
%MaceMaster: lando-t does too
pqs: av emboar
Thisisyourdestiny: Cursekyu beats sawk
Thisisyourdestiny: btw
%MaceMaster: indubitably
Ice In My Veins21: yo
Ice In My Veins21: what we got so far
Thisisyourdestiny: Nothing
Thisisyourdestiny: whims that beats char y
Thisisyourdestiny: sometimes
%MaceMaster: mimikium cursekyu acutally sounds good
+motogp: yeah
(The poll was ended by MaceMaster.)
 Poll ended Remove Garchomp?
1. Yes (5 votes)
 63%
2. No (3 votes)
 38%
(The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
(A poll was started by MaceMaster.)
#DEG: rip steel-types
#DEG: op
%MaceMaster: cursekyu beats most of them, just not mega meta really
+motogp: how about offensive
+motogp: ghostium
See code...
Whimsicott @ Occa Berry
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 100 Def / 160 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Protect
- Leech Seed
- Moonblast

Mimikyu @ Mimikium Z
Ability: Disguise
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Play Rough
- Curse
- Substitute
- Protect

+motogp: for megagross
%MaceMaster: it doesn't come close to beating metagross
%MaceMaster: it can beat offensive variants if you play around sub right, but not the bulky ones
Ice In My Veins21: correct
%MaceMaster: !code
See code...
Whimsicott @ Occa Berry
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 100 Def / 160 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Protect
- Leech Seed
- Moonblast

Mimikyu @ Mimikium Z
Ability: Disguise
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Play Rough
- Curse
- Substitute
- Protect
Edgar Allan Poem: wait
+motogp: not many people run sub
Edgar Allan Poem: why are we changing chomp?
%MaceMaster: because there was 20+ things that it and whimsi lost to together
+motogp: why adamant
%MaceMaster: we'd have to resort to something ridiculous niche
+motogp: jolly
+motogp: cursekyu always runs jolly
Edgar Allan Poem: either way, mikiium sounds bad
%MaceMaster: because kyub is really, really fat
Edgar Allan Poem: just use sitrus
Ice In My Veins21: sitrus is bad
%MaceMaster: agree
+motogp: we lose to icium even if we are adamant
+motogp: really bulky icium
%MaceMaster: sub can play around it to a degree
%MaceMaster: mimikyu certainly can't come close to countering kyub
%MaceMaster: but it's a good check
+motogp: since we beat scarf
+motogp: yes it is
Thisisyourdestiny: You only beat scarf if they don’t flinch you
Thisisyourdestiny: and they only pick scarf if they suck
%MaceMaster: since we're not bulky, scarf just beats mimi
+motogp: rephrasement:scarf only wins if they flinch
%MaceMaster: but whimsicott can deal with scarf well
+motogp: MaceMaster ye sbut scarf loses to whimsi
Thisisyourdestiny: And z ice
Thisisyourdestiny: that is whimsicott’s niche
pqs: what have we done so far
Thisisyourdestiny: it beats both kyub sets
+motogp: !code
See code...
Whimsicott @ Occa Berry
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 100 Def / 160 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leech Seed
- Protect
- Substitute
- Moonblast

Mimikyu @ Mimikium Z
Ability: Disguise
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Play Rough
- Curse
- Substitute
- Protect

+motogp: now we need a third mon
+motogp: what do we lose to?
%MaceMaster: *adamant cursekyu
#DEG: mega meta
+motogp: well yes adamant
%MaceMaster: i'm working on a list right now, give me a min
%MaceMaster: !code
See code...
Mega Metagross
Mega Venusaur
Mega Pinsir
Magnezone
Scarf Genesect
Ferrothorn
Kartana

Tapu Koko
Mega Slowbro
Mega Gengar
Alolan Ninetales
Mega Pidgeot
Nihilego
%MaceMaster: the top list is high-priority threats while the lower is things that are less important but nice to beat
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+motogp: how about
+motogp: scarf blacphalon
#DEG: scarf hoopa
%MaceMaster: scarf blacephalon actually sounds super good
potato pickle: fightium hoopa u
#DEG: loses to sect
pqs: flyinium lando
potato pickle: !
+motogp: bc magnezone does lose
#DEG: yea blacephalon
%MaceMaster: that would only lose to nihilego
%MaceMaster: oh, but there's a problem: magnezone
+motogp: magnezone loses to whimsi
+motogp: flash cannon doesnt ohko
+motogp: unless specs
%MaceMaster: oh, is it fat enough? awesome
+motogp: which loses to mimikyu
%MaceMaster: and specs generally doesn't carry eleweb^
%MaceMaster: okay
There is already a poll in progress in this room.
(The poll was ended by MaceMaster.)
 Poll ended Mimikium Cursekyu?
1. Yes (8 votes)
 89%
2. No (1 vote)
 11%
(The poll has ended – scroll down to see the results)
(A poll was started by MaceMaster.)
+motogp: 252+ SpA Magnezone Flash Cannon vs. 248 HP / 160+ SpD Whimsicott: 272-324 (84.2 - 100.3%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
Francy~y: strong.
+motogp: we could add
+motogp: a bit spd
+motogp: btw MaceMaster doesnt slowbro lose to cursekyu
+motogp: if played correctly
+motogp: because otherwise it 3-0s
%MaceMaster: yes, but only if you play super good
pqs: 84 spe
pqs: all it need
%MaceMaster: which is why i put it as a low-priority thing
pqs: ev
%MaceMaster: 84 speed? on what?
+motogp: what set?
pqs: no
pqs: scarf blace
%MaceMaster: hmm
+motogp: so
pqs: https://pokepast.es/647f261f886c4320
Francy~y: maybe scarf kyub with iron head is a little problem?
+motogp: whats the set?
Francy~y: or it loses to mimi
Francy~y: whimsi* sorry
%MaceMaster: !code
See code...
Blacephalon @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Mind Blown
- Shadow Ball
- Psychic
- Hidden Power [Ice]
%MaceMaster: that's what i was thinking for blace^
+motogp: doesnt scarf genesect ohko somehow?
%MaceMaster: no
pqs: but hp ground
+motogp: then how much speed do we need?
%MaceMaster: 252 SpA Genesect Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Blacephalon: 113-133 (45.7 - 53.8%) -- 44.9% chance to 2HKO
+motogp: !code
See code...
Whimsicott @ Occa Berry
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 100 Def / 160 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leech Seed
- Protect
- Substitute
- Moonblast

Mimikyu @ Mimikium Z
Ability: Disguise
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Play Rough
- Curse
- Substitute
- Protect

Blacephalon @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Mind Blown
- Shadow Ball
- Psychic
- Hyper Beam

Edgar Allan Poem: I've been saying special scarf kyub from the beginning, btw
(The poll was ended by MaceMaster.)
 Poll ended Scarf Blacephalon
1. Yes (5 votes)
 71%
2. No (2 votes)
 29%
+motogp: Y/Y?
pqs: ye
+motogp: DEG
#DEG: yes?
 Poll Which move on Blacephalon?
1. HP Ice (2 votes)
 29%
2. Hyper Beam (5 votes)
 71%
(A poll was started by MaceMaster.)
+motogp: we done
+motogp: i think
#DEG: what does hyper beam hit
%MaceMaster: hp ice beats garchomp and stuff
+motogp: hp ice kills nothing
%MaceMaster: hyper beam kills greninja
pqs: hyper beam
+motogp: garchomp loses to mimikyu
#DEG: yea beam
%MaceMaster: we beat ninja with mimi tho
#DEG: garchomp loses
#DEG: whimsicott
#DEG: if no pjab
%MaceMaster: the last slot is filler regardless
+motogp: garchomp loses to mimikyu anyway
%MaceMaster: neither move is necessary
#DEG: I still think babiri
#DEG: is better
+motogp: soooo
#DEG: on whimsicott
#DEG: :thinking:
%MaceMaster: babiri is more viable
%MaceMaster: but we've gone too far now
#DEG: If u use babiri
+motogp: if we used babiri we'd have to do this all over
#DEG: u can run hp rock
+motogp: so
#DEG: on blacephalon
+motogp: the team is done
%MaceMaster: we lose to both zards even with hp rock on blace
%MaceMaster: we need occa
#DEG: oh
+motogp: yes
%MaceMaster: !code
See code...
Whimsicott @ Occa Berry
Ability: Prankster
EVs: 248 HP / 100 Def / 160 SpD
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Substitute
- Protect
- Leech Seed
- Moonblast

Mimikyu @ Mimikium Z
Ability: Disguise
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Play Rough
- Curse
- Substitute
- Protect

Blacephalon @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Mind Blown
- Shadow Ball
- Psychic
- Hyper Beam

#DEG: we sure you beat
#DEG: zard u
#DEG: ?
+motogp: we done?
#DEG: y
+motogp: yes
+motogp: we take
+motogp: 99%
+motogp: timid
+motogp: air slash
%MaceMaster: wait...
pqs: hey guys
pqs: now lets make
pqs: another !
+motogp: no lol
#DEG: you can make another if u have the energy
#DEG: xd
+motogp: MaceMaster?
%MaceMaster: nvm
%MaceMaster: blast burn ohkos whim
+motogp: DEG get the shoutouts
%MaceMaster: but we have sub i realized
Francy~y: can i try
%MaceMaster: okay, well, that's a wrap!
Francy~y: this team
%MaceMaster: go ahead; it's everyone's team
#DEG: who wants to write
#DEG: the smogon post
%MaceMaster: i can
#DEG: ok
%MaceMaster: where should i post it?
#DEG: go farm some link
#DEG: :p
#DEG: main thread
pqs: ok guys we're making another now
+motogp: no pqs
#DEG: tomorrow
pqs: guys
pqs: i think
pqs: it loses to avalUg
%MaceMaster: it doesn't
+motogp: no it does not
+motogp: cursekyu wins
%MaceMaster: whim tanks an avalanch
Francy~y: whimsi too
%MaceMaster: and stalls
pqs: i should sleep
#DEG: same
#DEG: gn
+motogp: gn
+motogp: thats enough?
pqs: moRe