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  1. [22:37] <~Joey|away> If any of you are around
  2. [22:38] <~Joey|away> and haven't gotten this:
  3. [22:38] <~Joey|away> [21:33:44] <Chax[Europa]> BFF is willing to accept white peace with Menotah at any time.
  4. [22:38] <~Joey|away> I'm guessing that applies to all of Sentinel
  5. [22:38] <%Pangui[UPN|Tensai]> Ask them
  6. [22:39] <@Masterfod[GDA]> why?
  7. [22:39] <~Joey|away> Rodrod said
  8. [22:39] <~Joey|away> [21:20:57] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> I know what they want
  9. [22:39] <~Joey|away> [21:21:07] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Europa wants out so they go can help invicta
  10. [22:39] <%Pangui[UPN|Tensai]> werent they planning on having a meeting with us?
  11. [22:41] <~Joey|away> 21:31:26] <Chax[Europa]> we'll have to reschedule, actually
  12. [22:41] <~Joey|away> [21:31:28] <Chax[Europa]> thanks anyway though
  13. [22:41] <@Masterfod[GDA]> im guessings its either all or none
  14. 01[22:45] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Something changed
  15. [22:45] <~Joey|away> So what's our position on that business?
  16. 01[22:45] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> [20:31] <Chax[Europa]> disregard this
  17. 01[22:45] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> [20:31] <Chax[Europa]> we'll have to reschedule
  18. 01[22:45] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> [20:31] <rodrod[USN|Tensai]> D:
  19. 01[22:45] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> [20:31] <rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Whai
  20. 01[22:45] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> [20:31] <Chax[Europa]> I mean, we could still meet
  21. 01[22:45] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> [20:31] <rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Who wouldn't be there
  22. 01[22:45] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> [20:31] <Chax[Europa]> but it was going to be a chat about the end of this war
  23. 01[22:45] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> [20:32] <Chax[Europa]> and I think it's a little early to discuss that
  24. 01[22:45] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> [20:32] <rodrod[USN|Tensai]> lol well yeah
  25. 01[22:45] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> [20:32] <Chax[Europa]> Things changed within BFF
  26. 01[22:45] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> [20:32] <rodrod[USN|Tensai]> well
  27. 01[22:45] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> [20:32] <Chax[Europa]> Europa's going to ride alongside Invicta against Sparta
  28. 01[22:45] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> [20:32] <Chax[Europa]> you guys going to?
  29. [22:46] <~Joey|away> Why would we attack Sparta alongside BFF?
  30. [22:46] <@Masterfod[GDA]> we need to have a group discussion about this
  31. 01[22:46] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> not us
  32. 1[22:46] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> He meant
  33. 01[22:46] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> USN
  34. 01[22:47] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Since we have a MDoAP with invicta
  35. [22:47] <%Pangui[UPN|Tensai]> UPN has an ODP with Invicta
  36. [22:47] <~Joey|away> Who did Sparta hit?
  37. 01[22:47] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> BAPS
  38. 01[22:47] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Invicta is declaring on sparta on thursday
  39. [22:47] <@Rylejed[USN]> and Olympus
  40. [22:48] <~Joey|away> So BFF wants to peace with Sentinel
  41. [22:48] <~Joey|away> then wants USN to enter with BFF
  42. 01[22:48] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Not all of BFF
  43. [22:48] <@Masterfod[GDA]> wtf
  44. 01[22:48] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Just Europa
  45. 01[22:48] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> AS they're treatied
  46. [22:48] <@Masterfod[GDA]> well if anyone's getting peace, everyone's getting peace
  47. [22:48] <@Masterfod[GDA]> that's only fair
  48. 01[22:48] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> That would be the deal
  49. [22:49] <@Masterfod[GDA]> give us a round of war, lets see if new comes in
  50. 01[22:49] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> That's what the meeting was going to about
  51. [22:49] <@Masterfod[GDA]> when's the meeting?
  52. [22:49] <~Joey|away> How would that affect the whole Polaris and etc conflict area
  53. 01[22:49] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Well
  54. 01[22:49] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Sparta is on polars "side"
  55. [22:50] <~Joey|away> So technically, you'd be switching sides
  56. 01[22:50] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> since the fark/NPO front is techniclly part of our coalition
  57. 01[22:50] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> We wouldn't have to at all
  58. 01[22:50] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> And the only person who's heard about it is me and ryle
  59. 01[22:50] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> And i doubt nascar would ask to us to enter
  60. 01[22:51] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Not that i'm apposed to it
  61. [22:51] <~Joey|away> I think it would be an awkward situation
  62. [22:51] <%Pangui[UPN|Tensai]> Very
  63. 01[22:51] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Personally
  64. [22:51] <~Joey|away> Fighting alongside those who we were just fighting
  65. 1[22:51] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> I'd like a shot at sparta
  66. 01[22:51] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> :p
  67. [22:51] <%Pangui[UPN|Tensai]> Hitting Sparta would be hitting an ally of Fark
  68. 01[22:51] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> yep
  69. [22:51] <%Pangui[UPN|Tensai]> which iirc is tied to NpO
  70. 01[22:52] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> which is against the polar coalition blah blah blah
  71. [22:52] <~Joey|away> Menotah and Sparta have the NOIR treaty, therefore we cannot hit them, not to mention Sparta is on our side in the DT-Menotah argument
  72. [22:52] <%Pangui[UPN|Tensai]> who we where just fighting for
  73. [22:52] <~Joey|away> so honestly, you'd be attacking an ODP/NAP ally of ours
  74. [22:52] <@Fireblade> woah woah
  75. [22:52] <@Fireblade> why do we want to fight sparta exactly?
  76. [22:52] <@Rylejed[USN]> honestly I'm against us entering on that front
  77. [22:52] <%Pangui[UPN|Tensai]> damn this treaty web
  78. 01[22:52] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Woah
  79. [22:53] <~Joey|away> We don't Fireblade
  80. 01[22:53] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Stop saying we
  81. 01[22:53] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Read up fireblade
  82. [22:53] <~Joey|away> Just USN
  83. 01[22:53] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Jese
  84. [22:53] <@Fireblade> looks like I've got some reading to do
  85. [22:54] <%Pangui[UPN|Tensai]> rodrod[USN|Tensai], you are allied to us, any war of your is basicly a war of ours.
  86. [22:54] <~Joey|away> Especially if you get countered
  87. [22:54] <~Joey|away> And if you do, we'd be fighting our coalition side..
  88. [22:55] <@Fireblade> Wow
  89. [22:55] <@Fireblade> this is messed up
  90. [22:55] <%Pangui[UPN|Tensai]> The treaty web sucks like that
  91. 01[22:55] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> That's the treaty web
  92. [22:56] <~Joey|away> I rather have it so we stay out of it.
  93. [22:57] <~Joey|away> Because even though you don't approve of us saying "we", Rodrod, it is still a war that will greatly affect this bloc.
  94. 01[22:57] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> I told you not to say we because you clearly don't like the idea
  95. [22:57] <@Fireblade> if it's part of Sentinel it's part of WE
  96. [22:58] <~Joey|away> I think, that whether I like the idea or not, it will greatly complicate our individual treaties.
  97. 01[22:58] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Ok so if Sentinal peaced out
  98. 01[22:58] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> And invicta was countered
  99. 01[22:58] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> We'd have to ignore our MDoAP?
  100. [22:59] <@sippyjuice[GDA]> If you guys do that
  101. [22:59] <@sippyjuice[GDA]> don't expect my help
  102. 01[22:59] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> I didn't ask for it
  103. [22:59] <~Joey|away> You'd be forcing all of us into too
  104. [22:59] <~Joey|away> Since Sentinel chains
  105. 01[22:59] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> USN wouldn't have to activate any treaty
  106. [22:59] <~Joey|away> [23:58:59] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> We'd have to ignore our MDoAP?
  107. 01[23:00] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> I mean with you guys.
  108. [23:00] <~Joey|away> :/
  109. 01[23:00] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> you don't have to defend us unless we ask
  110. [23:00] <@Fireblade> hold on
  111. [23:00] <@Rylejed[USN]> wait what?
  112. 01[23:00] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Also this is all hypothetical
  113. [23:00] <@Fireblade> couldn't we work this the other way
  114. 01[23:00] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> As nobody has decided to do anything
  115. [23:01] <~Joey|away> Yeah, but you put us into an awkward position, if we have to counter someone on the other side.
  116. 01[23:01] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> you don't have to
  117. 01[23:01] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> o.o
  118. [23:01] <~Joey|away> Of course we don't have to do anything, we didn't have to enter this war for Polaris to begin with.
  119. [23:01] <~Joey|away> But we wanted to be there for Sentinel.
  120. [23:01] <@Fireblade> couldn't we get invicta to come in on our behalf
  121. 01[23:01] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> no
  122. 01[23:01] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Invicta is allied to europa
  123. [23:01] <~Joey|away> I think it's a far stretch to swing it around and go against the Polar side.
  124. [23:02] <@Fireblade> right
  125. [23:02] <@Fireblade> peace out
  126. [23:02] <@Fireblade> and then
  127. [23:02] <@Fireblade> erm
  128. [23:02] <@Fireblade> no
  129. 1[23:02] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Didn't think that one through hugh? :p
  130. [23:02] <@Fireblade> nope
  131. [23:02] <@sippyjuice[GDA]> Did you guys have to do this an hour before we're going in?
  132. 01[23:03] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Don't blame me
  133. [23:03] <~Joey|away> Honestly, the whole "Sentinel comes first" motto that emerged when the discusssion was ongoing, comes into effect here.
  134. 01[23:03] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Blame Europa and invicta
  135. 01[23:03] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> I'm just the messanger
  136. [23:03] <~Joey|away> Well, you are saying you want to hit Sparta and peace out here
  137. 01[23:04] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> I'm not saying i want to do anything
  138. [23:04] <%Pangui[UPN|Tensai]> He said he would like to
  139. 01[23:04] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> I'm saying they want us too
  140. 01[23:04] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Personally yes I would
  141. 01[23:04] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> But my personal opinion doesn't mean shit
  142. 01[23:04] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> As ryle cora and beale would all have to say yes
  143. 01[23:04] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Which they won't
  144. [23:07] <~Joey|away> True
  145. [23:07] <~Joey|away> lol
  146. 01[23:07] <@rodrod[USN|Tensai]> Ryle already said he doesn't like the idea
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