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  1. Album Reviews, User Averages
  2.  
  3. # Discipline
  4.  
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  6.  
  7. **Overall average**: 6.343
  8.  
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  10.  
  11. this album was really disappointing. i havent heard too much of janets music but i hear her revered as a legend and lets just say i hope this was her worst album because if her fans consider this good i wont trust anything they say about janet
  12.  
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  14. **TragicKingdom1**: This album was incredibly disappointing. Janet has always been a forward pushing artist but that did NOT manifest here as everything has aged poorly. The futuristic aesthetic does nothing to save the production from being muddy and songwriting from being uninspired. I will never listen to this album in full again unless it somehow gets in another rate. [Grade: D+]
  15.  
  16. **AnimationJava**: This is the first time I've listened to (part of) a Janet Jackson album and I thought it was okay! I think in a few more listens it'll grow on me.
  17.  
  18. **itsnotrelevantt**: I’ve never listened to any of Janet Jackson’s music! Unfortunately I think I ended up not liking these songs as they were long and largely boring to me… It’s at a weird place between being electronic, groovy, and R&B but without any of the interesting elements of any of them.
  19.  
  20. **J\_Toe**: I really like Rhythm Nation and The Velvet Rope, but I'm still warming up to this album, I guess, which I'm only listening to the first time for this.
  21.  
  22. **tapdancingpig**: Wow. That was hot (and I’m not even into girls).
  23.  
  24. **letsallpoo**: leave junky alone
  25.  
  26. **jimmy345960**: This album did not change my opinion of Janet. While I like some of the highlights of her discography, a majority of her songs are just middle of the road for me. They are high quality and very creative but just not my type of music. I have a similar relationship with Beyoncé and Lana's music.
  27.  
  28. **twat\_brained**: some great R&B gems here but I won't be keen on checking out the rest of the album. "Feedback" still bangs though
  29.  
  30. **patronsaintofaspies**: I haven't fully listened to any Janet album past Velvet Rope. This rate perfectly demonstrated why I'm too scared to. Though there are some genuinely praiseworthy attempts at Janet emulating 00s RnB here, like Feedback, cheap production and failed experimental tweaks bring Discipline down noticeably, culminating in an album that sounds more like a pastiche of Janet than the real deal. I don't think I'm assuming wrongly that these six songs were some of the tracks in this rate that people dreaded listening the most too. Personally, I don't think what I experienced off this album was all that bad, but nearly every song here could use some serious improvement in multiple aspects of their composition. At the end of the day, the combination of detailed descriptions of sex and bad autotune act as huge obstacles preventing people from truly enjoying the record.
  31.  
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  33.  
  34. User Averages:
  35.  
  36. JunkyGS: 9.750
  37. PuggleMaster: 9.000
  38. MirandaCrocsgrove: 9.000
  39. black_velvet_: 8.833
  40. gannade: 8.667
  41. therokinrolla: 8.500
  42. ulikejazz: 8.417
  43. letsallpoo: 8.333
  44. tapdancingpig: 8.283
  45. skargardin: 8.167
  46. perfumevee: 8.083
  47. MaydayPVZ: 7.917
  48. twat_brained: 7.850
  49. rotating3Dtext: 7.733
  50. ThatParanoidPenguin: 7.667
  51. bsumner52: 7.500
  52. Raykel: 7.500
  53. 1998tweety: 7.350
  54. DrunkHurricane: 7.333
  55. phch123: 7.333
  56. Bajuko: 7.167
  57. tooshorttoofast: 7.167
  58. dramiaa: 7.100
  59. J_Toe: 7.000
  60. poppinmmolly: 7.000
  61. rosecoloreds: 7.000
  62. rickikardashian: 6.917
  63. MissyBee37: 6.917
  64. rosesmp3: 6.750
  65. amacaroon: 6.700
  66. followingfreeways: 6.583
  67. CarlieScion: 6.500
  68. static_int_husp: 6.500
  69. whatyourheartdesires: 6.500
  70. itsnotrelevantt: 6.500
  71. TheKneesOfOurBees: 6.500
  72. AnimationJava: 6.417
  73. ElectricBoogaloo41: 6.333
  74. jimmy345960: 6.250
  75. kanyewestrep: 6.167
  76. Pearl Louise: 6.000
  77. ImADudeDuh: 6.000
  78. wailordfan_: 5.833
  79. ignitethephoenix: 5.667
  80. piccprincess: 5.667
  81. jess_22: 5.667
  82. patronsaintofaspies: 5.500
  83. jamesfog: 5.500
  84. imasalesman: 5.500
  85. saucymac: 5.333
  86. BearlyEvenAPun: 5.167
  87. selegend: 5.167
  88. hikkaru: 4.917
  89. animefangrant62: 4.833
  90. original_doll: 4.733
  91. TragicKingdom1: 4.667
  92. InfernalSolstice: 4.500
  93. yoereyesr: 4.333
  94. Shippy: 4.250
  95. lilacsweetener: 4.167
  96. frogaranaman: 4.000
  97. SpanKKy1: 3.500
  98. welcometoNY: 2.833
  99. napsandnetflix: 2.833
  100. THE_PC_DEMANDS_BLOOD: 2.500
  101. wanderingimpromptu3: 2.417
  102.  
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  104.  
  105. # E=MC^2
  106.  
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  108.  
  109. **Overall average**: 7.210
  110.  
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  112.  
  113. okay sis i was actually very pleasantly surprised with this album!! Im not really a mariah fan and i dont like a lot of her music but these songs actually really bopped
  114.  
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  116. **TragicKingdom1**: This album is pretty standard Mariah will a sprinkle of 2008 flair on top. It doesn't represent a lot of artistic evolution but it does have some bops. I am struggling to think of anything else to say about it. [Grade: B]
  117.  
  118. **AnimationJava**: I have yet to listen to a full Mariah Carey album all the way through, but I liked most of her songs in this rate so I think I'll give all of E=MC^2 a try!
  119.  
  120. **itsnotrelevantt**: I have never, ever listened to this album but Touch My Body is my god damn song. Me, in middle school or whenever… that’s MY SONG.
  121.  
  122. **J\_Toe**: lol I remember my brother being so mad at the title of this album around the time it was released!
  123.  
  124. **perfumevee**: I'm a long time Mariah fan but this was one album that I've probably listened to the least for whatever reason. I've owned it since its release but didn't spend a lot of time with it. Definitely time for a revisit!
  125.  
  126. **letsallpoo**: this is highkey the best album in this rate. the hagphobia needs to STOP!
  127.  
  128. **patronsaintofaspies**: This is a strange pick for what I call Mariah's most underrated album. Instead of a record with deep, introspective lyrics like Butterfly or Daydream, it's a very poppy, very late 00s project full of tracks that sound like long lost hits glittered with forgotten guest rappers galore. E=MC^2 isn't groundbreaking or innovative as much as Mariah's 90s work, of course, but my honest opinion is that it makes for just as solid listening. Though it was originally conceived as a sequel to Mariah's previous comeback album, I honestly believe the album eclipses it in terms of cohesion and quality, if not popularity. Another underrated aspect of it is Mariah's voice; it reaches the best heights it'll have to offer in the 21st century here, sounding pleasant and unstrained yet still energetic. I'd seriously call this one of her best releases, and it deserves just as much attention as its predecessor.
  129.  
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  131.  
  132. User Averages:
  133.  
  134. kanyewestrep: 10.000
  135. ulikejazz: 9.717
  136. PuggleMaster: 9.500
  137. perfumevee: 9.250
  138. JunkyGS: 8.950
  139. ElectricBoogaloo41: 8.917
  140. patronsaintofaspies: 8.750
  141. letsallpoo: 8.667
  142. tapdancingpig: 8.667
  143. black_velvet_: 8.500
  144. InfernalSolstice: 8.500
  145. 1998tweety: 8.433
  146. original_doll: 8.433
  147. phch123: 8.417
  148. jamesfog: 8.333
  149. dramiaa: 8.333
  150. skargardin: 8.250
  151. tooshorttoofast: 8.167
  152. Bajuko: 8.167
  153. J_Toe: 8.000
  154. rosesmp3: 7.917
  155. jess_22: 7.917
  156. static_int_husp: 7.833
  157. imasalesman: 7.833
  158. followingfreeways: 7.750
  159. TragicKingdom1: 7.750
  160. gannade: 7.750
  161. itsnotrelevantt: 7.667
  162. whatyourheartdesires: 7.583
  163. therokinrolla: 7.583
  164. DrunkHurricane: 7.500
  165. piccprincess: 7.500
  166. AnimationJava: 7.500
  167. ignitethephoenix: 7.500
  168. rotating3Dtext: 7.483
  169. MirandaCrocsgrove: 7.483
  170. saucymac: 7.333
  171. bsumner52: 7.333
  172. rosecoloreds: 7.333
  173. animefangrant62: 7.250
  174. Shippy: 7.250
  175. rickikardashian: 7.000
  176. Pearl Louise: 6.833
  177. BearlyEvenAPun: 6.583
  178. CarlieScion: 6.500
  179. THE_PC_DEMANDS_BLOOD: 6.500
  180. hikkaru: 6.333
  181. twat_brained: 6.167
  182. poppinmmolly: 6.167
  183. lilacsweetener: 6.000
  184. ImADudeDuh: 6.000
  185. welcometoNY: 5.917
  186. amacaroon: 5.683
  187. selegend: 5.667
  188. ThatParanoidPenguin: 5.667
  189. wailordfan_: 5.500
  190. TheKneesOfOurBees: 5.500
  191. yoereyesr: 5.333
  192. Raykel: 5.083
  193. MissyBee37: 4.917
  194. SpanKKy1: 4.167
  195. frogaranaman: 3.833
  196. wanderingimpromptu3: 3.750
  197. napsandnetflix: 3.333
  198.  
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  200.  
  201. # Hard Candy
  202.  
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  204.  
  205. **Overall average**: 6.626
  206.  
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  208.  
  209. I like Madonna and all, id even call myself a big fan. I had no idea this album *existed* until this rate. and i wish it stayed that way, because it is NOT good.
  210.  
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  212. **TragicKingdom1**: This is the most surprised by an album I have ever been going into a rate. I was expecting a complete mess with shitty electro-slutbops but instead I was served Pharrell and Timbaland genius. I'm sure the Madonna stans were disappointed with this because it's completely out of left field for her but the production is absoletely superb, aging better than not only the majority of this rate but also a lot of Pharrell and Timbaland's most renowned works from this time period. It keeps a high level of tension throughout and switches up the production enough that I can vibe with it without being bored. It does futuristic way better than Discipline and slutbops much better than Circus. I'm not sure if I would have ever checked this album out if it weren't for this rate, which would be unfortunate for me because it is now my favorite Madonna album. [Grade: A]
  213.  
  214. **AnimationJava**: This was the first time I've listened to any Madonna song that wasn't her biggest hit or "Bitch I'm Madonna", maybe I should listen to her older stuff because this didn't really click for me.
  215.  
  216. **itsnotrelevantt**: I haven’t listened to anything but the biggest hits from Madonna. What is with this album and have normal, cute songs and then randomly changing them up in jarring and weird ways?? Madonna this album is garbage I’m sorry sweetie
  217.  
  218. **J\_Toe**: My favourite Madonna albums are Ray of Light and Confessions. Let's see about this one.
  219.  
  220. **MissyBee37**: This whole album just kind of fell flat for me? Like it's all fine, but none of it gets me too excited.
  221.  
  222. **tapdancingpig**: Sometimes I forget that Madonna is a GREAT lyricist. This album, messy as it is, reminded me of that fact. Also, I generally like Pharrell, Danja, and Timbaland, so even when all else about a track fails, at least they’re there to give it something good.
  223.  
  224. **patronsaintofaspies**: I still maintain that, not including her soundtracks, MDNA is the only Madonna album where Madge actually resorts to chasing trends. While she attempts to try out 00s RnB here in a not completely successful manner, there are still flashes of brilliance here that make the album wasted potential at worst. Unfortunately, it is wasted potential. Instead of continuing a solid streak of albums, Hard Candy becomes a bit of a worse Let's Dance as it falls off a little into coming off as manufactured. The biggest problem about the album isn't that it's not unoriginal, or that it's lacking in catchy hits. Though there are quite a few missteps within the music itself, there are still enough redeeming elements included for me to praise Hard Candy's songwriting and production. The biggest problem with Hard Candy is, quite frankly, Madonna herself. I don't see any effort in her performance, vocals or delivery. She sounds bored out of her skull throughout most of the album. What's worse is that the songs here are some of the best Hard Candy has to offer. Its flaws shine much more in its lesser output, and that compels people to declare it Madonna's second worse album of all time. The album doesn't fail because it was too ahead or behind the times, or because higher-ups and collaborators ruined it. The album fails because of Madonna herself. For such an innovative and iconic artist, it makes me very disappointed. At the very least, I'm just glad the blackface cover never happened.
  225.  
  226. ---
  227.  
  228. User Averages:
  229.  
  230. MirandaCrocsgrove: 9.300
  231. rotating3Dtext: 9.167
  232. jamesfog: 8.833
  233. TragicKingdom1: 8.667
  234. JunkyGS: 8.583
  235. J_Toe: 8.333
  236. phch123: 8.333
  237. followingfreeways: 8.083
  238. black_velvet_: 8.000
  239. ulikejazz: 7.967
  240. 1998tweety: 7.883
  241. DrunkHurricane: 7.750
  242. ElectricBoogaloo41: 7.700
  243. amacaroon: 7.683
  244. saucymac: 7.667
  245. tapdancingpig: 7.583
  246. patronsaintofaspies: 7.500
  247. MaydayPVZ: 7.417
  248. gannade: 7.333
  249. perfumevee: 7.333
  250. tooshorttoofast: 7.333
  251. kanyewestrep: 7.333
  252. jimmy345960: 7.217
  253. rickikardashian: 7.217
  254. CarlieScion: 7.167
  255. rosecoloreds: 7.167
  256. skargardin: 7.167
  257. static_int_husp: 7.083
  258. Bajuko: 7.000
  259. animefangrant62: 6.833
  260. piccprincess: 6.750
  261. poppinmmolly: 6.667
  262. imasalesman: 6.667
  263. therokinrolla: 6.583
  264. THE_PC_DEMANDS_BLOOD: 6.583
  265. rosesmp3: 6.550
  266. dramiaa: 6.450
  267. hikkaru: 6.417
  268. ignitethephoenix: 6.333
  269. ThatParanoidPenguin: 6.333
  270. Raykel: 6.250
  271. BearlyEvenAPun: 6.250
  272. Pearl Louise: 6.167
  273. MissyBee37: 6.000
  274. yoereyesr: 6.000
  275. Shippy: 6.000
  276. TheKneesOfOurBees: 6.000
  277. twat_brained: 5.967
  278. wailordfan_: 5.917
  279. SpanKKy1: 5.833
  280. whatyourheartdesires: 5.667
  281. itsnotrelevantt: 5.667
  282. original_doll: 5.667
  283. InfernalSolstice: 5.417
  284. bsumner52: 5.333
  285. selegend: 5.167
  286. napsandnetflix: 5.167
  287. letsallpoo: 5.167
  288. AnimationJava: 5.033
  289. lilacsweetener: 5.000
  290. jess_22: 5.000
  291. frogaranaman: 4.833
  292. ImADudeDuh: 4.500
  293. wanderingimpromptu3: 4.167
  294. PuggleMaster: 4.000
  295. welcometoNY: 3.167
  296.  
  297. # One Of The Boys
  298.  
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  300.  
  301. **Overall average**: 7.712
  302.  
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  304.  
  305. okay im sorry im a katy stan so i obviously went into this with a little bias but thats because this is such a fucking stellar album dude. Katy started her career off really well <3 this album has huge huge memories attached for me, singing and dancing with my old sister before going to school, something we still talk about whenever hot n cold or i kissed a girl comes on, so ill always love this album just for that
  306.  
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  308. **TragicKingdom1**: This album really falls apart in its second half, but has some bops that redeem it. I like it more in theory than execution for the most part. One thing that is consistently on point is Katy's aesthetic this era, which I think compliments the music nicely. This isn't the worst album we've ever rated but it's not worth revisiting outside of a few songs (although those aren't even THAT good other than Hot N Cold.) [Grade: C]
  309.  
  310. **AnimationJava**: I will admit I'm biased with One Of The Boys because this album was mainstream when I was growing up, it's something that makes me nostalgic but has still aged pretty well.
  311.  
  312. **itsnotrelevantt**: I obviously know the singles but haven’t listened to anything else on it.
  313.  
  314. **J\_Toe**: I don't like Katy. That will show in my scores here.
  315.  
  316. **MissyBee37**: Ah, the original Katy Perry. It's my least-favorite of her albums, but I think that says a lot about how great her discography is, because it's such a solid, fun and personality-filled debut. This selection of songs is a strong showing from it, too. I'm crushed that "Lost" isn't here in all its devastating glory, but I digress. Katy's debut may be different from anything else she's done, but it still has so many of her charms -- it's funny, quirky, flirty and unabashedly Katy. I love it. I love the more rock-like sound for her.
  317.  
  318. **tapdancingpig**: This is a weird album. I had seen gossip site rumors that Katy hates her music and wanted to be an indie rocker, and this album kind of lends a touch of credibility to that rumor. She’s a lot more rocker-y, even on the Max and Satan tracks, and she has more of a musical identity here than she ever really will again.
  319.  
  320. **jimmy345960**: So I needed some scalding hot tea coffee for this album now I gave this album (7 songs) a 5.6 and I am trying not to be biased. It's just that the songs we choose are haunted by a certain attitude that really gets under my skin. The "feminine bitchy" male definitely exists and should be called out but this album is not helping anyone. Using gay as a slur and the "be a man" attitude really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Anyway, Hot n Cold and Waking Up in Vegas are pop royalty.
  321.  
  322. **twat\_brained**: I'm gonna relisten to the full album just to see how it shapes up 10 years after its original release, just to see how it compares to Teenage Dream: Complete Confection and Prism. Having all of the songs representing this album indicates to me that it is completely front-loaded, however. Or at least, they're the most well-known tracks.
  323.  
  324. **patronsaintofaspies**: I don't try to sort out my feelings on Katy because when I attempt to gauge whether I like her or not, I get more than a little confused. I love a lot of her individual songs, and my unpopular opinion regrading Witness being an actually good album isn't actually an uncommon one at all. Still, the lady has a lot of flaws that I find hard not to spot, and those flaws are evident on all of her albums. One of the Boys is a little rough around the edges in the sense that it occasionally has awkward lyrics, and, like Fearless, the mixing on some songs leave a lot to be desired. However, for all I could nitpick about the era, One of the Boys does show that Demi isn't the only pop girl that could try incorporating a little more pop rock into her music. Say what you want about its more questionable aspects, but songs off One Of The Boys like Waking Up In Vegas and Hot N Cold do show that Katy has enough talent to impress you at least once or twice. The songs included in this rate represent the record well, for better or for worse, and despite the wide difference in how well they're regarded, at the very least, they give us a balanced view of Katy's true debut.
  325.  
  326. ---
  327.  
  328. User Averages:
  329.  
  330. PuggleMaster: 10.143
  331. JunkyGS: 9.929
  332. 1998tweety: 9.814
  333. therokinrolla: 9.786
  334. jamesfog: 9.571
  335. MissyBee37: 9.429
  336. followingfreeways: 9.357
  337. hikkaru: 9.286
  338. rickikardashian: 8.986
  339. twat_brained: 8.943
  340. phch123: 8.929
  341. Bajuko: 8.857
  342. Shippy: 8.786
  343. imasalesman: 8.714
  344. yoereyesr: 8.714
  345. InfernalSolstice: 8.643
  346. saucymac: 8.571
  347. kanyewestrep: 8.429
  348. original_doll: 8.343
  349. rotating3Dtext: 8.257
  350. MaydayPVZ: 8.214
  351. ignitethephoenix: 8.143
  352. black_velvet_: 8.143
  353. skargardin: 8.143
  354. SpanKKy1: 8.143
  355. letsallpoo: 8.143
  356. dramiaa: 8.129
  357. THE_PC_DEMANDS_BLOOD: 8.071
  358. bsumner52: 7.929
  359. patronsaintofaspies: 7.857
  360. tooshorttoofast: 7.857
  361. napsandnetflix: 7.857
  362. ElectricBoogaloo41: 7.786
  363. CarlieScion: 7.714
  364. itsnotrelevantt: 7.714
  365. ImADudeDuh: 7.714
  366. piccprincess: 7.571
  367. wailordfan_: 7.571
  368. MirandaCrocsgrove: 7.529
  369. rosecoloreds: 7.500
  370. ulikejazz: 7.500
  371. DrunkHurricane: 7.429
  372. poppinmmolly: 7.429
  373. Pearl Louise: 7.429
  374. BearlyEvenAPun: 7.429
  375. AnimationJava: 7.357
  376. ThatParanoidPenguin: 7.286
  377. tapdancingpig: 7.071
  378. perfumevee: 6.957
  379. gannade: 6.900
  380. static_int_husp: 6.786
  381. rosesmp3: 6.643
  382. TheKneesOfOurBees: 6.571
  383. Raykel: 6.543
  384. selegend: 6.429
  385. TragicKingdom1: 6.429
  386. amacaroon: 6.014
  387. wanderingimpromptu3: 5.900
  388. lilacsweetener: 5.857
  389. jess_22: 5.857
  390. frogaranaman: 5.714
  391. jimmy345960: 5.657
  392. animefangrant62: 5.214
  393. whatyourheartdesires: 4.929
  394. J_Toe: 4.714
  395.  
  396. ---
  397.  
  398. # Funhouse
  399.  
  400. ---
  401.  
  402. **Overall average**: 8.161
  403.  
  404. ---
  405.  
  406. pink... GIRL, I WAS SO SHOCKED to find out that this is one of my favorite albums(i mean, set of six songs) in this rate. I am SO sorry for doubting u u absolute GODDESS
  407.  
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  409. **TragicKingdom1**: I remember not liking this album back in my youth but it surprisingly held up, even outside of the singles. The ballads are pretty strong despite Pink not being known for them, and the production is varied but without any wild risks that don't pay off. Ultimately, it's one of the two best albums in this rate. [Grade: B+]
  410.  
  411. **AnimationJava**: I didn't realize until listening to Funhouse how many iconic p!nk songs came from it!
  412.  
  413. **itsnotrelevantt**: I honestly kind of hate a lot of Pink’s singles from how overplayed they are and how much my mom loved them so I’m super duper biased here but I’ll try to rate them based on how good I think they are and not how much I hate listening to them!!! I love Funhouse the song, though, it’s my favorite Pink song.
  414.  
  415. **J\_Toe**: I wish I Don't Believe You was part of the rate
  416.  
  417. **tapdancingpig**: I feel like I need to listen to this whole album to form an opinion on this. Honestly, So What and Please Don’t Leave Me are highlights of the rate, but some of these tracks are just fucking messy.
  418.  
  419. **patronsaintofaspies**: I don't know much about Pink, to be honest. Her cool rocker girl vibe was very last decade for me upon my first introduction to her music, and I resisted the urge to check her songs out even if I enjoyed hits like So What or Try. Owing to her status as a mom pop artist, I never got pressured to actually check her discography out. The songs in this rate may have convinced me, though, that Pink can be actually fun. I'm still not the biggest fan of her image or music, simply because I don't really feel attached to the confident pop rock she often releases, but reading into Funhouse's background and hearing some of the best songs off it proved to me that even if Pink seems like an ordinary superstar today, she still must have sounded pretty fresh to a lot of pop fans in the 2000s.
  420.  
  421. ---
  422.  
  423. User Averages:
  424.  
  425. MirandaCrocsgrove: 9.683
  426. InfernalSolstice: 9.500
  427. jamesfog: 9.500
  428. saucymac: 9.333
  429. therokinrolla: 9.250
  430. followingfreeways: 9.167
  431. JunkyGS: 9.167
  432. 1998tweety: 9.000
  433. ElectricBoogaloo41: 9.000
  434. wailordfan_: 9.000
  435. yoereyesr: 9.000
  436. ImADudeDuh: 9.000
  437. BearlyEvenAPun: 8.917
  438. perfumevee: 8.867
  439. J_Toe: 8.833
  440. imasalesman: 8.833
  441. napsandnetflix: 8.833
  442. ignitethephoenix: 8.750
  443. static_int_husp: 8.750
  444. amacaroon: 8.733
  445. CarlieScion: 8.667
  446. frogaranaman: 8.667
  447. itsnotrelevantt: 8.667
  448. Pearl Louise: 8.667
  449. dramiaa: 8.633
  450. MaydayPVZ: 8.583
  451. hikkaru: 8.583
  452. rotating3Dtext: 8.517
  453. ThatParanoidPenguin: 8.500
  454. Shippy: 8.500
  455. TheKneesOfOurBees: 8.500
  456. poppinmmolly: 8.500
  457. Bajuko: 8.333
  458. tooshorttoofast: 8.333
  459. skargardin: 8.333
  460. kanyewestrep: 8.333
  461. gannade: 8.333
  462. tapdancingpig: 8.250
  463. PuggleMaster: 8.167
  464. whatyourheartdesires: 8.167
  465. THE_PC_DEMANDS_BLOOD: 8.167
  466. DrunkHurricane: 8.083
  467. jimmy345960: 8.067
  468. black_velvet_: 8.000
  469. rosecoloreds: 7.917
  470. patronsaintofaspies: 7.917
  471. rickikardashian: 7.850
  472. jess_22: 7.833
  473. twat_brained: 7.783
  474. AnimationJava: 7.750
  475. TragicKingdom1: 7.667
  476. bsumner52: 7.583
  477. piccprincess: 7.583
  478. rosesmp3: 7.500
  479. ulikejazz: 7.450
  480. selegend: 7.333
  481. Raykel: 7.283
  482. SpanKKy1: 7.167
  483. phch123: 7.083
  484. wanderingimpromptu3: 6.950
  485. MissyBee37: 6.917
  486. letsallpoo: 6.333
  487. original_doll: 6.083
  488. welcometoNY: 5.750
  489. animefangrant62: 5.583
  490. lilacsweetener: 4.667
  491.  
  492. ---
  493.  
  494. # Fearless
  495.  
  496. ---
  497.  
  498. **Overall average**: 8.190
  499.  
  500. ---
  501.  
  502. okay....so. im sorry swifties, but fearless is my least favorite taylor album. even behind self titled. i love tayor, my second favorite artist of all time, but this album just really bores me and its the one that i revisit the least. I wouldnt call it a bad album, but its not for me. THAT BEING SAID, the best songs on the album were chosen and the iconic singles are actually legendary, so it has that going for it.
  503.  
  504. ---
  505. **TragicKingdom1**: (copy and pasting from the countryheads rate of this album) Probably my favorite Taylor album, although it's still flawed. At points, her artistry is on full display and I can fully understand how she attracted such a large fanbase, because her emotional songwriting connects. There are still songs that feel too sappy, melodramatic or lacking in momentum, which were my main problems with Red. I don't think it was a bad listen at all but it definitely could've been refined. [Grade: B-]
  506.  
  507. **AnimationJava**: The most iconic album of 2008, beating out all of these other girls for AOTY from the Grammies. Taylor was the youngest woman to win AOTY, and to this date it's still her best-selling album. Some of her other music I like much more, but there's no denying that Fearless shaped her career.
  508.  
  509. **itsnotrelevantt**: I love Taylor’s early albums.
  510.  
  511. **Bajuko**: Her fake country accent is so grating
  512.  
  513. **J\_Toe**: I've only started listening to Taylor this year because of the praise she receives on this sub. I must say, though, I prefer pop!Taylor.
  514.  
  515. **tapdancingpig**: This has never been my favorite Taylor album. There’s a lot of really amazing stuff in here, foreshadowing her peaks in songwriting, but there’s a lot of stuff that just don’t like. All of that stuff got cut out, though, so throughout the rate I’ll just seem like the perky Taylor stan I am.
  516.  
  517. **jimmy345960**: So, here we are. Her beginning. Why didn't I listen to this back in 2008? I will never know. I would have loved to be a fan of hers during the Speak Now era, which I missed :(. Anyway this album is full of classics, y'all left out You're Not Sorry which is one of my favorites off this album. When I say Yee, you say Haw. Yee
  518.  
  519. **rickikardashian**: I can't wait for Taylor to lose this rate too because this dumb fandom will split their 11’s with Love Story and You Belong With me and have both end in like #6 and #3
  520.  
  521. **patronsaintofaspies**: This used to be my least favourite Taylor album. Now, I'm a little more nuanced in my ranking of it. It has really high highs, including all of the songs in this rate, plus a couple more, and...well, not really low lows. Just kind of boring songs like Hey Stephen or Tell Me Why that belong more on a playlist of leaked rejects from her self-titled days than anywhere else. Despite that, though, there are so many moments on the album worth listening to that it's kind of hard not to fall in love with. I can see why this acted as the floodgate for Taylor's fame to gush into. It's an important record for her, even if it isn't perfect, and, artistically, it was a critical stepping stone for her to develop her career further and eventually release one of the best three-album streaks in pop music I've heard of. It might not be a masterpiece, but it sure is full of some of them. You'd better believe that it's the most acclaimed album in this rate for a reason.
  522.  
  523. ---
  524.  
  525. User Averages:
  526.  
  527. piccprincess: 10.167
  528. napsandnetflix: 10.167
  529. welcometoNY: 10.083
  530. followingfreeways: 10.000
  531. tooshorttoofast: 10.000
  532. poppinmmolly: 9.833
  533. imasalesman: 9.833
  534. jamesfog: 9.750
  535. jimmy345960: 9.717
  536. THE_PC_DEMANDS_BLOOD: 9.667
  537. InfernalSolstice: 9.583
  538. MaydayPVZ: 9.500
  539. therokinrolla: 9.467
  540. CarlieScion: 9.333
  541. MirandaCrocsgrove: 9.333
  542. bsumner52: 9.167
  543. 1998tweety: 9.150
  544. perfumevee: 9.083
  545. original_doll: 9.067
  546. saucymac: 9.000
  547. hikkaru: 9.000
  548. itsnotrelevantt: 9.000
  549. wanderingimpromptu3: 8.983
  550. wailordfan_: 8.917
  551. patronsaintofaspies: 8.917
  552. tapdancingpig: 8.917
  553. rickikardashian: 8.900
  554. MissyBee37: 8.750
  555. ImADudeDuh: 8.667
  556. skargardin: 8.500
  557. static_int_husp: 8.500
  558. AnimationJava: 8.500
  559. phch123: 8.333
  560. Raykel: 8.333
  561. DrunkHurricane: 8.250
  562. dramiaa: 8.083
  563. jess_22: 8.083
  564. Shippy: 8.000
  565. ignitethephoenix: 8.000
  566. ThatParanoidPenguin: 8.000
  567. rotating3Dtext: 7.983
  568. ulikejazz: 7.900
  569. BearlyEvenAPun: 7.833
  570. twat_brained: 7.683
  571. SpanKKy1: 7.500
  572. ElectricBoogaloo41: 7.417
  573. rosesmp3: 7.417
  574. rosecoloreds: 7.417
  575. J_Toe: 7.167
  576. amacaroon: 7.083
  577. letsallpoo: 7.000
  578. kanyewestrep: 7.000
  579. PuggleMaster: 6.833
  580. TragicKingdom1: 6.583
  581. TheKneesOfOurBees: 6.500
  582. black_velvet_: 6.167
  583. frogaranaman: 6.167
  584. yoereyesr: 6.083
  585. lilacsweetener: 6.000
  586. Bajuko: 6.000
  587. Pearl Louise: 6.000
  588. selegend: 5.667
  589. whatyourheartdesires: 5.667
  590. gannade: 4.583
  591.  
  592. ---
  593.  
  594. # I Am Sasha Fierce
  595.  
  596. ---
  597.  
  598. **Overall average**: 7.384
  599.  
  600. ---
  601.  
  602. i feel like this album had iconic singles but eh otherwise its a good album but didnt have anything special for it
  603.  
  604. ---
  605. **TragicKingdom1**: Despite launching the Sasha Fierce persona, this album is Beyonce at her most faceless. The majority of the songs sound like they weren't written with Beyonce in mind (because they weren't) and although Beyonce objectively shows talent, it is diluted by the dull production and songwriting. I'm glad she traded Sasha Fierce for Queen Bey starting with the 4 era because her output has been much better since then (including Everything Is Love, haters can stay pressed) [Grade: C-]
  606.  
  607. **AnimationJava**: I was actually extremely surprised how much I liked all of the songs in the rate off this album, I can understand how many people see this album to be one of Beyoncé's best.
  608.  
  609. **itsnotrelevantt**: I love some songs, hate others… Never really got the whole Beyonce obsession thing in society woops.
  610.  
  611. **J\_Toe**: I like Beyonce, but more here music from 4 onwards.
  612.  
  613. **MissyBee37**: TIL I think I like Beyonce best when she's Sasha Fierce.
  614.  
  615. **patronsaintofaspies**: No Beyonce era is truly forgotten by the general public, but although Sasha Fierce produced a decent amount of chart-toppers and awards show controversies in its own right, you'd be hard-pressed to find anybody who actually adores this point in Bey's career. In sits in the middle of her creative growth, trying to adapt to emerging pop sounds and trying to signify artistic maturation. Unfortunately, as a project, Sasha Fierce fails to satisfy most music fans. Ostensibly a concept album, the record squashes songs into one of two sides based on which persona they're supposed to line up with, which makes the track arrangement feel bloated and poorly planned out. What doesn't help matters is how obnoxious the production seems on songs like Video Phone, tainting your listening experience. I feel like the entire record is a failed bridge in Beyonce's career, with a few noteworthy songs that elevate it from being a complete disaster. Though she'd eventually master the art of the concept album, Bey's ambition just falls flat on Sasha Fierce. Skip this one and go straight ahead to 4, which is a much superior album despite its lack of story.
  616.  
  617. ---
  618.  
  619. User Averages:
  620.  
  621. MirandaCrocsgrove: 9.286
  622. ulikejazz: 9.071
  623. ElectricBoogaloo41: 9.071
  624. black_velvet_: 8.857
  625. kanyewestrep: 8.857
  626. followingfreeways: 8.857
  627. Bajuko: 8.857
  628. Pearl Louise: 8.857
  629. rickikardashian: 8.771
  630. saucymac: 8.714
  631. MaydayPVZ: 8.571
  632. ignitethephoenix: 8.571
  633. AnimationJava: 8.429
  634. piccprincess: 8.429
  635. perfumevee: 8.357
  636. imasalesman: 8.286
  637. rosecoloreds: 8.286
  638. 1998tweety: 8.271
  639. poppinmmolly: 8.214
  640. jamesfog: 8.143
  641. JunkyGS: 8.071
  642. rotating3Dtext: 8.029
  643. bsumner52: 8.000
  644. lilacsweetener: 8.000
  645. skargardin: 7.929
  646. THE_PC_DEMANDS_BLOOD: 7.929
  647. J_Toe: 7.857
  648. CarlieScion: 7.857
  649. original_doll: 7.757
  650. MissyBee37: 7.714
  651. Shippy: 7.643
  652. static_int_husp: 7.571
  653. tooshorttoofast: 7.571
  654. dramiaa: 7.571
  655. yoereyesr: 7.500
  656. gannade: 7.500
  657. PuggleMaster: 7.357
  658. ThatParanoidPenguin: 7.286
  659. tapdancingpig: 7.286
  660. whatyourheartdesires: 7.286
  661. BearlyEvenAPun: 7.286
  662. ImADudeDuh: 7.143
  663. InfernalSolstice: 7.071
  664. rosesmp3: 7.071
  665. SpanKKy1: 7.000
  666. itsnotrelevantt: 7.000
  667. patronsaintofaspies: 6.929
  668. jimmy345960: 6.886
  669. Raykel: 6.857
  670. phch123: 6.857
  671. TheKneesOfOurBees: 6.714
  672. therokinrolla: 6.571
  673. napsandnetflix: 6.429
  674. selegend: 6.429
  675. DrunkHurricane: 6.143
  676. frogaranaman: 5.857
  677. twat_brained: 5.757
  678. wailordfan_: 5.429
  679. jess_22: 5.286
  680. TragicKingdom1: 5.214
  681. hikkaru: 5.071
  682. letsallpoo: 5.000
  683. wanderingimpromptu3: 4.957
  684. amacaroon: 4.771
  685. welcometoNY: 3.786
  686.  
  687. ---
  688.  
  689. # Circus
  690.  
  691. ---
  692.  
  693. **Overall average**: 7.875
  694.  
  695. ---
  696.  
  697. ive heard every song on this album way too many times but anyway this is an underrated album in britneys discography. ive seen it get a lot of hate from gays and ive never understood it, it has AMAZING songs. and it holds up way better than blackout... which honestly sounds terrible nowadays lol. anyway, i would put circus in the top three britney albums in my rankings.
  698.  
  699. ---
  700. **TragicKingdom1**: Britney sounds dead on this album and it ranges from mindnumbingly annoying to mindnumbingly boring for 80% of the runtime. Some songs are really good but the lows are really, really low. One of the worst albums we've ever rated. [Grade: D]
  701.  
  702. **itsnotrelevantt**: I pretty much love every song off of this album.
  703.  
  704. **MissyBee37**: This album is a strong, strong showing from Ms. Britney. It's no "Oops!...I Did It Again," but we can't all be perfect pop albums. So many fun songs, though!
  705.  
  706. **tapdancingpig**: Honestly, this is one of my least favorite Britney albums. Like, it’s not THE worst, but there’s SO much filler and lackluster stuff. The good is very good though. This is pretty much the one album that I think benefits from being cut down to 6 tracks, even if these weren’t the 6 I would have chosen.
  707.  
  708. **patronsaintofaspies**: I always viewed Circus as a weird album in Britney's discography, even if it was the one that ended up paving the way to her comeback. Released barely a year after Blackout, the Britney of this album still comes across as less involved than ideal, although she does sound a tad less messier. The tracks off it do tend to be catchy, harmless plain pop fun, despite the terrible lyric here and there. But what holds the album back from being a classic like her previous ones is the production, which perfectly fitting 2008 and slowly becoming more abrasive as time goes on. Also, as much as I hate to admit it, Britney only sounds emotionally and mentally invested in a few songs here. She sounds near lifeless on others. That doesn't surprise me, considering how stressed out she must have been while recording this, but you can hear her starting to get less and less personally involved in her music beginning with Circus, a trend which reached a nadir with Britney Jean and started thankfully fading away with the release of Glory. In short, while Circus may be an ultimately successful collection of catchy songs and spectacular singles, it hardly does anything for me. It's gone down in my ranking of Britney's releases.
  709.  
  710. ---
  711.  
  712. User Averages:
  713.  
  714. phch123: 9.500
  715. MirandaCrocsgrove: 9.467
  716. JunkyGS: 9.450
  717. jamesfog: 9.167
  718. twat_brained: 9.100
  719. jimmy345960: 9.017
  720. hikkaru: 9.000
  721. ElectricBoogaloo41: 9.000
  722. itsnotrelevantt: 9.000
  723. original_doll: 8.917
  724. animefangrant62: 8.833
  725. selegend: 8.833
  726. 1998tweety: 8.767
  727. saucymac: 8.667
  728. MaydayPVZ: 8.667
  729. Pearl Louise: 8.667
  730. THE_PC_DEMANDS_BLOOD: 8.667
  731. ignitethephoenix: 8.667
  732. J_Toe: 8.667
  733. tooshorttoofast: 8.667
  734. therokinrolla: 8.667
  735. MissyBee37: 8.583
  736. perfumevee: 8.533
  737. SpanKKy1: 8.500
  738. rickikardashian: 8.433
  739. rotating3Dtext: 8.300
  740. ulikejazz: 8.250
  741. dramiaa: 8.250
  742. black_velvet_: 8.167
  743. skargardin: 8.167
  744. followingfreeways: 8.083
  745. whatyourheartdesires: 8.083
  746. yoereyesr: 8.083
  747. Shippy: 8.083
  748. rosesmp3: 7.917
  749. poppinmmolly: 7.833
  750. static_int_husp: 7.750
  751. bsumner52: 7.750
  752. Raykel: 7.717
  753. wanderingimpromptu3: 7.700
  754. CarlieScion: 7.667
  755. TheKneesOfOurBees: 7.667
  756. imasalesman: 7.667
  757. rosecoloreds: 7.667
  758. tapdancingpig: 7.667
  759. piccprincess: 7.667
  760. DrunkHurricane: 7.583
  761. gannade: 7.583
  762. amacaroon: 7.517
  763. ImADudeDuh: 7.500
  764. BearlyEvenAPun: 7.500
  765. jess_22: 7.417
  766. Bajuko: 7.333
  767. patronsaintofaspies: 7.250
  768. ThatParanoidPenguin: 7.167
  769. frogaranaman: 7.167
  770. letsallpoo: 7.000
  771. lilacsweetener: 7.000
  772. AnimationJava: 6.500
  773. InfernalSolstice: 6.500
  774. wailordfan_: 6.167
  775. kanyewestrep: 5.667
  776. TragicKingdom1: 5.500
  777. PuggleMaster: 5.500
  778. napsandnetflix: 4.667
  779. welcometoNY: 3.667
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