Raymond wrote: "What you webos fans fail to recognize that if webos hopes to succeed they cannot just appeal to current webos fans. So far the pre 2 and the announced pre 3 don't seem to appeal to anyone but current webos fans. If they don't come up with a device that will attract users from other platforms webos will fail once again. Hp so far has not impressed. They seem to trot out old designs and are slow to market. They also promised that all pres would be updated to webos 2.0 and then changes their mind. If they want to attract new users (and they desperately need to) they are going to have to do much better. "