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  1. [01:55:27] * MibbitUser880 ([email protected]) has joined #FreedomPlanet
  2. [01:55:40] <Myuu> I remember wanting to take part in it...
  3. [01:55:43] <Myuu> ...
  4. [01:55:54] <Abel9210> hi again, chairman
  5. [01:55:58] <Myuu> I hate "Gonna go fast" and "Is this Sanic" spam.
  6. [01:56:03] * MibbitUser880 ([email protected]) Quit (Client Quit)
  7. [01:56:22] <Abel9210> kind of curious why he doesn't stick around
  8. [01:56:38] <Myuu> Depressed because like many creators, including myself, he feels ignored.
  9. [01:56:54] <Abel9210> something doesn't compute here, then
  10. [01:57:08] <Abel9210> cause I sure aren't ignoring him when he makes an appearance in the chat
  11. [01:57:17] <Abel9210> I understand a bit of what he's going through in any case
  12. [01:57:21] <Abel9210> but like
  13. [01:57:25] <Myuu> But do you read his story?
  14. [01:57:31] <Abel9210> no
  15. [01:57:34] <Myuu> Then there.
  16. [01:57:47] <Abel9210> doesn't matter if I do or don't in any case
  17. [01:57:50] <Abel9210> you write for yourself
  18. [01:57:55] <Myuu> To him, and to other creators, it does.
  19. [01:57:57] <Zylphe> Hes stressed that he felt like he didn't do his best.
  20. [01:58:00] <Zylphe> Am I right?
  21. [01:58:00] <Myuu> You can only create so much in vacuum.
  22. [01:58:12] <Myuu> No. He felt ignored and glossed over.
  23. [01:58:17] <Eltro93> I can live ignored.
  24. [01:58:23] <Abel9210> man, you think I don't feel like that
  25. [01:58:31] <Lemongod> Such is the risk of creating art.
  26. [01:58:39] <Abel9210> on another forum
  27. [01:58:40] <Zylphe> Psh. I mean I sent him plenty of kudos and stuff.
  28. [01:58:43] <Myuu> Many creators in the fanbase feel utterly starved in attention. They feel like nothing they do is watched and appreciated by the fanbase at this point.
  29. [01:58:52] <Abel9210> I made champion concepts for League of Legends
  30. [01:58:58] <Myuu> That apart from one another, they're largely ignored by a fanbase too busy with "going fast".
  31. [01:59:02] <Abel9210> these barely get attention
  32. [01:59:04] <Zylphe> and I even commented on his remix on that Remix of At Dawn for Speedhighway
  33. [01:59:11] <Abel9210> and the ones that do get attention
  34. [01:59:21] <Abel9210> I have to tweak people's arms to get them to give constructive feedback
  35. [01:59:31] <Abel9210> I wrote a 14 page story
  36. [01:59:35] <Abel9210> fucking 11 comments
  37. [01:59:44] <Abel9210> 30% of that was constructive criticism
  38. [02:00:39] <Zylphe> I mean he could of just saved the Mp3 of the Remix so I could at least listen to it over and over again
  39. [02:00:56] <Abel9210> and for a more current example, I've written like 2 satire posts and a short story on this forum
  40. [02:00:39] <Zylphe> I mean he could of just saved the Mp3 of the Remix so I could at least listen to it over and over again
  41. [02:00:56] <Abel9210> and for a more current example, I've written like 2 satire posts and a short story on this forum
  42. [02:01:11] <Lemongod> All artists I've ever met and myself have gone through that. It's best to try and stick it out, or move on.
  43. [02:01:27] <Eltro93> And I've read both your satires and enjoyed them.
  44. [02:01:34] <Abel9210> so you want to talk about how he cancelled his fic because he felt ignored and glossed over
  45. [02:01:35] <Abel9210> fine
  46. [02:01:55] <Lemongod> The community around here doesn't seem all that concerned with fan works, is all.
  47. [02:02:09] <Lemongod> And it stinks.
  48. [02:02:13] <Lemongod> But it is what it is.
  49. [02:02:26] <Abel9210> the point is
  50. [02:02:35] <Abel9210> you do work for yourself and to get it out there
  51. [02:02:39] <Abel9210> it gets attention, cool
  52. [02:02:43] <Abel9210> it doesn't
  53. [02:02:48] <Abel9210> well, shit, time to do something else
  54. [02:03:00] <Eltro93> And we'll might as well deal with it.
  55. [02:03:31] <Abel9210> to be honest, I think the guy was a fool to cancel his fic because he felt like people weren't reading it
  56. [02:03:42] <Abel9210> even though I wouldn't have read it because it doesn't personally interest me
  57. [02:04:04] <Abel9210> it's not like he's writing for me
  58. [02:04:08] <Abel9210> he's writing for people like you
  59. [02:04:27] <Lemongod> Artists crave attention. In some ways artists do write for the public.
  60. [02:04:32] <Myuu> What kind of person do you think I am?
  61. [02:04:36] <Lemongod> Or produce content.
  62. [02:04:41] * Ultrablockstar ([email protected]) has joined #FreedomPlanet
  63. [02:04:55] <Eltro93> I don't know, what kind of person do you think you are?
  64. [02:05:08] <Abel9210> I think you're a 29 year old woman who does professional writing for a company I don't know
  65. [02:05:14] <Abel9210> because it's shrouded in a dark and secret past
  66. [02:06:05] <Zylphe> Uhhh hello? Am I like the only one who brought up his previous works?
  67. [02:06:34] <Eltro93> "dark and secret past" eh? Seems familiar.
  68. [02:06:40] <Zylphe> I mean crap man. It should've showed on his viewcounts on Youtube that people were looking into his deving skills.
  69. [02:06:57] <Myuu> So I guess you're not truly looking for fanwork. And don't have much of interest in that kind of stuff.
  70. [02:07:15] <Myuu> So... where could I find people who like FP and may be interested in this kind of stuff?
  71. [02:08:53] <Lemongod> Abel's saying that a writer should have enough derive enough security and satisfaction from producing content, and that public recognition should be an optional bonus.
  72. [02:09:22] <Lemongod> Whoops, strike that first "have enough".
  73. [02:09:32] * SkyStriderChaser ([email protected]) has joined #FreedomPlanet
  74. [02:09:38] <Abel9210> hi
  75. [02:09:44] <SkyStriderChaser> Hey!
  76. [02:09:47] <Zylphe> I want to look into Strifes previous works.
  77. [02:09:56] <Myuu> I asked a question.
  78. [02:10:00] <SkyStriderChaser> They'res a thread for that somewhere.
  79. [02:10:01] <Eltro93> One thing that should come first from a writer is self satisfactory.
  80. [02:10:02] <Ultrablockstar> I dislike this way of thinking
  81. [02:10:05] <SkyStriderChaser> I dunno where tho.
  82. [02:10:23] <Ultrablockstar> Then you obviously don't understand the importance of criticism
  83. [02:10:33] <Eltro93> I do.
  84. [02:10:34] <SkyStriderChaser> What did I miss?
  85. [02:10:36] <Zylphe> And even if I sent an email saying I am interested into it he shouldn't dismiss that because NO ONE cared. Someone did.
  86. [02:10:40] <Myuu> Nothing much.
  87. [02:10:40] <Abel9210> sorry, skystrider
  88. [02:10:45] <Abel9210> it seems like you've come in at a bad time
  89. [02:10:46] <Ultrablockstar> I doesn't sound like it.
  90. [02:10:50] <SkyStriderChaser> That's fine
  91. [02:10:53] <Ultrablockstar> *it
  92. [02:11:15] <Lemongod> I understand the importance of criticism, but I also understand the viewpoint that producing content should be satisfying regardless of public opinion.
  93. [02:11:34] <Myuu> I'm just pondering if there is any place with FP fans who would actually care about fanwork. Since this doesn't seem to be the place.
  94. [02:11:47] <Ultrablockstar> The problem is that the fan works aren't getting ANY criticism
  95. [02:11:54] <SkyStriderChaser> Where are they?
  96. [02:12:03] <SkyStriderChaser> I'd like to give an honest critiuque
  97. [02:12:09] <Lemongod> I don't know, there's the fangroups on DeviantArt, Myuu.
  98. [02:12:11] <Ultrablockstar> If there's no criticism how do you expect the person to improve
  99. [02:12:14] <Abel9210> http://www.galaxytrail.com/forum/index.php/board,17.0.html
  100. [02:12:24] <Abel9210> though
  101. [02:12:34] <Abel9210> let's play devil's advocate
  102. [02:12:36] <Lemongod> But those are pretty inundated with content too, so stuff gets brushed over there too.
  103. [02:12:48] <Abel9210> if you feel that people should give more criticism
  104. [02:13:15] <Abel9210> there's like 3 current fics here
  105. [02:13:23] <Abel9210> only seen you comment on one
  106. [02:13:24] <SkyStriderChaser> I've read a good bit of freedom planet fanfiction over on FF.net (all of it that wasn't written by a 13 year old recolorist that is)
  107. [02:13:33] <Abel9210> where's the rest of your criticism
  108. [02:13:36] <SkyStriderChaser> I'll check out that forum.
  109. [02:14:00] <Abel9210> gotta lead by example if you want more people to criticize
  110. [02:14:08] <Ultrablockstar> Did you just said there's only 3 fan fictions in the forums?!
  111. [02:14:16] <Abel9210> 'current'
  112. [02:14:16] <Ultrablockstar> I hope I misread that
  113. [02:14:20] <SkyStriderChaser> No he didn't.
  114. [02:14:23] <SkyStriderChaser> He said "current"
  115. [02:14:25] <Eltro93> Current, not counting the older ones.
  116. [02:14:27] <Ultrablockstar> ah
  117. [02:14:53] <Abel9210> christ, I thought we moved past this 'conveniently misreading arguments to get morally outraged' crap a week ago
  118. [02:15:08] <Lemongod> Oh geez, this is getting too heated for my taste. I gotta turn in, work tomorrow. Good night, all.
  119. [02:15:11] <SkyStriderChaser> ...
  120. [02:15:14] <SkyStriderChaser> Night!
  121. [02:15:17] <Ultrablockstar> ...
  122. [02:15:19] <Eltro93> "Conveniently"?!
  123. [02:15:19] <Myuu> I don't get what happened.
  124. [02:15:23] <Myuu> Anyway, good night!
  125. [02:15:33] * Lemongod ([email protected]) Quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
  126. [02:16:03] <Ultrablockstar> You know, even if a fan fiction is finished, criticism is still nice
  127. [02:16:20] <SkyStriderChaser> Btw, I'm kinda new here, I've made like 3 posts on the forum. I signed up to criticize the story in the thread about it's story.
  128. [02:16:29] <Ultrablockstar> I find it strange how the fan fiction base have gain sudden popularity recently
  129. (There's more, but it's irrelevant to the previous argument
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