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- ♪♪
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- TRACY: We went in,
- and they said, you know,
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- "This tumor's had
- such a growth spurt
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- that we need to make sure that
- this isn't a high-grade glioma."
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- And I said,
- "Well, what if it is?"
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- They said, "Your daughter
- will not live
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- to see her 2nd birthday."
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- Thank you for allowing people
- to open their minds, Lord,
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- to see that this is your gift
- to us, your gift from heaven,
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- that you have given us this
- medicine to treat our babies.
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- WOMAN: When we found out
- about Sophie's brain tumor,
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- I had no idea this would be
- the gift from God to her.
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- - Amen.
- - Amen.
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- SMITH: When your
- kid's got cancer,
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- the rule book goes out
- the window, really.
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- You need to get them well,
- and you need to do
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- everything that you can
- to make them well.
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- And I wouldn't feel right
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- if I didn't explore
- everything that there was.
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- CHRIS: They found over
- 20 tumors in his chest.
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- 00:01:03,933 --> 00:01:07,109
- At that time,
- Dr. Storch told us,
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- "Now is the time
- to do alternative medicine."
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- REIMAN: People have been
- using cannabis as a medicine
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- for 5,000 years.
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- THC has always been kind of
- the star of the show,
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- because it's
- the most psychoactive.
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- But then research
- started showing
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- that there were a lot of other
- cannabinoids in the plant
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- that had as many, if not more,
- therapeutic effects.
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- For me, one of the most
- exciting areas is,
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- is cannabis
- an anti-cancer agent?
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- The number of different ways
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- that cannabis and cannabinoids
- in the test tube
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- seem to suppress cancer
- is quite impressive.
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- In oncology, we often say,
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- "The plural of anecdote
- is not evidence."
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- Cancer cells plus cannabis
- together in a Petri dish.
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- We know what happens there.
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- There's a lot of studies
- that show that.
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- - Right.
- - We do not have human studies,
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- and certainly, we don't have
- studies in pediatrics.
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- Blood pressure's perfect.
- Yeah.
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- LEVY: If we want to use
- marijuana as a medicine,
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- we need to make it a medicine.
- We haven't done that yet.
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- My friend dying from pancreatic
- cancer can't wait for studies.
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- GOLDBERG: Yeah.
- That's the problem.
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- My child can't wait for studies.
- [Applause]
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- JIM: The controversy about
- it kind of makes me mad,
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- because it's at
- the cost of our children.
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- You know, it's at the cost
- of our loved ones.
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- A lot of people
- don't want to try this
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- because of the reputation.
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- NADELMANN: One can argue
- that there's a human right
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- to have the government
- provide you with a medicine.
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- But at the very least,
- there has to be a consensus
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- that the government should
- never deprive you of access
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- to a medicine
- which can be helpful.
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- Why as a society
- are we denying people
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- the use of something
- that I have seen firsthand
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- over and over
- and over again be helpful?
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- ♪♪
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- TRACY: You ready to
- kick cancer in the butt?
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- [Laughing] Yay!
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- Oh, so excited!
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- SMITH: It started off
- with a swollen tonsil,
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- which I just thought
- was a throat infection,
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- so it didn't
- concern me too much.
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- So, then the lump didn't go away
- with antibiotics.
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- So we got admitted.
- And that's when they thought
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- he had 10 days
- before it blocked his airways,
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- and 8 days later,
- he got the diagnosis.
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- I was really surprised
- when the doctor came in
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- and handed me
- this treatment plan.
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- And I just thought,
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- "That's really odd that
- it's already been designed."
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- And then I realized
- that it was one-size-fits-all
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- for that particular diagnosis,
- that type of cancer.
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- Then I was quite worried
- when he said,
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- "Oh, this was devised
- in the '70s."
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- And I said, "What, it's not
- been changed since the '70s?"
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- And he said, "Oh, well, yeah,
- slightly, you know,
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- but fundamentally, because
- kids' cancer is quite rare,
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- not much research gets done,"
- which I find quite worrying,
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- because you'd hope
- that with medical advances,
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- things would have
- changed slightly.
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- He is the single worst case
- of chemo-induced nausea
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- that they've ever seen.
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- Literally, we've tried
- everything that they have
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- on their list of options.
- We've tried everything.
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- And then there was
- the marijuana.
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- And marijuana's the only thing
- that's really...
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- I mean, it doesn't work
- all the time,
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- but when it works,
- it really, really works.
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- Then I started reading
- about cannabis oil
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- and the anti-tumor
- properties of it,
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- and I thought, "Well, if we're
- using it to treat the symptoms,
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- we might as well give him
- the anti-tumor dose
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- at the same time."
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- It's all about supporting
- the side effects
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- and helping the chemo
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- to do its job
- of getting rid of the cancer.
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- They're the two main things
- that I'm trying to do with this.
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- ♪♪
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- ♪♪
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- A.J. K.: When we first came
- here, I was kind of clueless.
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- I had no idea what
- pediatric oncology meant.
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- So that was terrifying.
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- Even though I've done this
- like more than 100 times,
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- I still get a little afraid
- of the needle.
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- Hello.
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- Come on in, A.J.
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- - Hi, Rosemary.
- - Hi. How are you?
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- Tired, but good.
- How are you doing?
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- ROSEMARY: Good. Thank you.
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- A.J. K.: That's good.
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- NURSE: We're gonna count
- one to three. Ready?
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- Yeah. And then "three's"
- when you put it in, like always?
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- NURSE: One, two, three.
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- ♪♪
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- CHRIS: A.J.'s 17 years old now.
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- We first found out
- that he had cancer... He was 13?
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- - Mm-hmm.
- - He was 13 years old.
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- We found out that it was
- osteosarcoma cancer...
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- Bone cancer.
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- By the time that they caught it,
- he was already stage IV.
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- I believe it was
- his second chemo,
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- his lungs collapsed,
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- because the cancer had spread
- to his lungs,
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- also being stage IV.
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- That trip was like six,
- eight weeks solid
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- in the hospital, that she lived
- in the hospital with him.
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- It came back again, and
- it was basically in his spine.
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- I think they took out
- two, three, and four
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- and then put a steel cage in.
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- SHEILA: And they
- removed his ribs.
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- CHRIS: And then they
- removed some of his ribs
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- where it was attached to,
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- I think one or two on each side?
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- - Two on each side.
- - Two on each side.
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- Since my hand has kind of
- been messed up
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- after one of the surgeries
- on my back...
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- They had to sever
- some of the nerves,
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- and those nerves
- were going to my hand.
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- So, my fire button
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- used to be my mouse 1.
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- But I changed it to looking into
- my dinosaur's inventory instead.
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- CHRIS: Month and a half
- after the surgery,
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- he was sick.
- He didn't feel good.
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- They found over 20 tumors
- in his chest.
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- It was very bleak at that point,
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- and A.J. does not know
- how bleak it was.
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- We've never told him that.
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- He's a 17-year-old kid.
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- He needs to concentrate
- on getting better.
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- A.J. K.: Bronto is
- down for the count.
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- Hey, survival of the fittest.
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- CHRIS: This is the raw oil form
- that we get when we buy it.
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- A.J. K.: When we started using
- it, we had to get a permit,
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- and then we could start actually
- getting it from the dealer,
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- I guess is the right term...
- Distributor?
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- I'm not sure
- what the correct term is
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- to not make it look bad
- or sound bad.
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- [Laughs]
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- Sheila and A.J. get out
- and go upstairs,
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- and I'm driving the truck
- in Beverly Hills,
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- circling the parking lot,
- trying to find a place to park.
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- I can't. I can't even find
- a place to park.
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- She gets in the truck.
- A.J. gets in the truck,
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- and she's got
- this little, teeny bag
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- and I'm like,
- "Okay, so, what was it?"
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- And she's crying,
- and she's like,
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- "I wish you could
- have been there
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- because of all these questions."
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- And I'm like, "Okay, so,
- I'm curious.
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- What is this stuff? What is it?
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- What is it,
- and how much did we spend?"
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- - Yeah.
- - And so she pulls out
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- these two little syringes
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- that are like 10 grams
- or 10 milliliters.
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- It's supposedly all the same
- or something like that.
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- And there's two of them.
- And she goes,
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- "This was $1,010 for those two."
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- And I'm like [Gasps]
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- It's our son. What do you do?
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- - GORDON: Hi, Tracy.
- - Hi.
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- - So nice to meet you.
- - So nice to meet you.
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- 00:09:07,372 --> 00:09:09,678
- Thank you so much
- for coming all this way.
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- Oh, honey, it's my pleasure.
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- - This is Sophie.
- - Hi, Sophie.
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- We just got her up from her nap.
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- Yeah, she's still waking up.
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- Ohh!
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- - Oh, she is.
- - Yeah, she's quite
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- - the special little baby.
- - She's always been that way.
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- Neither one of us could imagine
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- putting our tiny,
- little baby through chemo.
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- And the day that we decided
- to not do chemo
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- was the day that I felt like
- I could breathe again,
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- and I'm sure
- he would say the same.
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- - JOSH: Oh, yeah.
- - It's just so counterintuitive
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- - to do it.
- - Ugh.
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- JOSH: We got the scans,
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- said it was
- an optic pathway glioma.
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- TRACY: Here's the
- core of the mass
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- sitting right there
- on the optic cross.
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- 00:09:47,935 --> 00:09:49,544
- GORDON: These are
- excellent pictures.
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- TRACY: Here. Oh, and
- this is only one of them.
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- And then, here.
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- This one is of her spine.
- Her spine's totally clear,
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- so it has not metastasized
- or spread in any way.
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- 'Cause that's the most natural,
- normal place for it to go.
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- 00:10:01,601 --> 00:10:03,123
- TRACY: Yeah,
- she has none of that.
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- GORDON: Okay.
- Let me just mention this.
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- I don't have medical training.
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- 00:10:06,954 --> 00:10:09,303
- I don't claim to have
- medical training.
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- I just have something
- that I feel is more important,
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- We're gonna have to experiment.
- There might be times
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- when, as we're figuring out
- what her dose is,
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- we might go,
- "Oh, okay, that's too much."
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- It can't hurt her.
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- If it is too much,
- all it's gonna take
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- is the hours of it
- getting out of her system.
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- TRACY: System. And that's
- what we love so much about this
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- is that she's not
- gonna be suffering.
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- She's not gonna be in pain.
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- We don't have
- to watch her deteriorate.
- 228
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- - She's perfect health-wise.
- - Yeah.
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- She's had one cold
- in nine months,
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- and that's 'cause
- Daddy gave it to her.
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- Except for that damn cancer.
- 232
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- Except for that huge mass
- in her brain.
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- - Except for that mass.
- - That's the only thing, yeah.
- 234
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- So, literally,
- 1,000 stars had to align
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- for us to finally
- change our mind on cannabis.
- 236
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- That was the only thing that
- we just completely dismissed
- 237
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- and refused to research,
- 238
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- because we just thought
- it was so ridiculous.
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- We looked at everything else
- but that.
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- TRACY: And it was
- all from Facebook.
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- One of those mommies said,
- "Look, there's a lot
- 242
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- of legitimate science
- going on around it."
- 243
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- So we started really looking
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- at this positive research
- on cannabis.
- 245
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- And I said, "Honey,
- this could be it."
- 246
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- So, how do we...?
- 247
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- For the first time, I'll just
- go ahead and do it, okay?
- 248
- 00:11:17,851 --> 00:11:20,374
- TRACY: Okay, sure.
- 249
- 00:11:20,375 --> 00:11:23,159
- GORDON: Now, I'm giving her
- a tiny, tiny amount
- 250
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- - this first time, okay?
- - TRACY: Okay.
- 251
- 00:11:25,380 --> 00:11:27,903
- GORDON: 'Cause she's never
- been exposed to this.
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- 253
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- And then you draw back on this
- so it doesn't keep pouring out.
- 254
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- - TRACY: Okay.
- - Okay?
- 255
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- TRACY: Here, let Mama.
- Look at Mama. Oh, here we go.
- 256
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- - Yay!
- - Good girl. High-five.
- 257
- 00:11:38,001 --> 00:11:40,873
- - Yay!
- - Yay! High-five! High-five!
- 258
- 00:11:40,874 --> 00:11:43,005
- - It's okay!
- - TRACY: Good job, honey!
- 259
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- Will she feel any of the THC,
- 260
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- - or is that CBD gonna counter?
- - She may. We won't know
- 261
- 00:11:46,314 --> 00:11:48,228
- - until she...
- - Till she... Till she...
- 262
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- - Everybody's different.
- - Yeah.
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- If she has her breakfast
- at 10:30,
- 264
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- then you're not
- gonna be giving her this
- 265
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- - until probably 11:30 or so.
- - Right.
- 266
- 00:11:54,017 --> 00:11:56,323
- And then we don't have time
- to get three doses in.
- 267
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- - Okay.
- - So let's start out at two doses
- 268
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- - and see how she does.
- - We can wake her up earlier.
- 269
- 00:12:00,763 --> 00:12:03,591
- I know. I know. But let's do
- as little to disrupt your day.
- 270
- 00:12:03,592 --> 00:12:04,984
- - Okay.
- - Two is gonna be fine.
- 271
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- It's not gonna be the...
- I know how it...
- 272
- 00:12:07,901 --> 00:12:09,423
- I've come to learn
- over the years
- 273
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- that we're not that powerful.
- 274
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- We can do the best we can.
- We can, you know, whatever,
- 275
- 00:12:14,516 --> 00:12:17,692
- but whatever's gonna happen
- is gonna happen.
- 276
- 00:12:17,693 --> 00:12:19,607
- You know, we're just
- not that powerful.
- 277
- 00:12:19,608 --> 00:12:21,522
- [Voice breaking] I just want
- to do what's best for her.
- 278
- 00:12:21,523 --> 00:12:23,611
- I know. And I know,
- and I understand that.
- 279
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- And you're a wonderful,
- wonderful mother,
- 280
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- and you're doing an amazing job.
- 281
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- TRACY: Thank you.
- 282
- 00:12:29,487 --> 00:12:32,620
- So, for now, let's just start
- with two a day.
- 283
- 00:12:32,621 --> 00:12:34,187
- Okay.
- 284
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- Well, we're awfully happy
- to be able to help
- 285
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- - and be part of her journey.
- - Oh, we're happy to have you.
- 286
- 00:12:37,495 --> 00:12:38,931
- - We really, truly are.
- - Yeah.
- 287
- 00:12:38,932 --> 00:12:39,932
- - Oh, my gosh.
- - We cannot tell you
- 288
- 00:12:39,933 --> 00:12:40,976
- how much this means to us.
- 289
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- Yeah.
- 290
- 00:12:42,022 --> 00:12:43,631
- - Oh, yeah.
- - Oh, yes.
- 291
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- - Let's put her to sleep.
- - You want to go lay...
- 292
- 00:12:45,547 --> 00:12:47,069
- You want to go
- night-night, baba?
- 293
- 00:12:47,070 --> 00:12:48,941
- - Want to go night-night?
- - Want to go night-night?
- 294
- 00:12:48,942 --> 00:12:51,247
- Mommy get you some milk ready.
- 295
- 00:12:51,248 --> 00:12:52,379
- - "Actually...
- - Sophie,
- 296
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- we're gonna get you better.
- 297
- 00:12:53,990 --> 00:12:55,425
- TRACY: ...it's a little bit
- past my nap."
- 298
- 00:12:55,426 --> 00:12:58,689
- You're gonna live a long life.
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- ♪♪
- 300
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- STEWART: This is ground up like
- a medium-ground coffee grind.
- 301
- 00:13:10,833 --> 00:13:13,139
- It's what we've found
- works out the best.
- 302
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- ♪♪
- 303
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- - Better with no bubbles.
- - Kind of looks like...
- 304
- 00:13:18,101 --> 00:13:19,667
- Completely decarboxylated.
- All the air...
- 305
- 00:13:19,668 --> 00:13:22,235
- I went in for
- a pretty routine surgery.
- 306
- 00:13:22,236 --> 00:13:25,238
- When I got out,
- I had hospital-acquired
- 307
- 00:13:25,239 --> 00:13:26,979
- spinal meningitis.
- 308
- 00:13:26,980 --> 00:13:28,850
- They sent me home
- from the hospital
- 309
- 00:13:28,851 --> 00:13:32,158
- on fentanyl patches, morphine,
- 310
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- all kinds of horrible drugs
- 311
- 00:13:34,465 --> 00:13:39,165
- and basically said, "Here,
- this is the rest of your life."
- 312
- 00:13:39,166 --> 00:13:42,516
- I'd gone from being
- this incredibly vibrant,
- 313
- 00:13:42,517 --> 00:13:45,171
- can-do, can-do-anything person
- 314
- 00:13:45,172 --> 00:13:49,175
- to, "I'm the one
- sitting there watching
- 315
- 00:13:49,176 --> 00:13:50,872
- while everybody else
- is living their life,
- 316
- 00:13:50,873 --> 00:13:52,178
- and I'm doing nothing."
- 317
- 00:13:52,179 --> 00:13:54,920
- I identify as a Dallas girl,
- 318
- 00:13:54,921 --> 00:13:58,140
- as a Texan in a lot of ways,
- 319
- 00:13:58,141 --> 00:14:02,014
- a Jewish Texan,
- which is even weirder.
- 320
- 00:14:02,015 --> 00:14:03,885
- I never liked cannabis.
- 321
- 00:14:03,886 --> 00:14:06,932
- I was one of those people
- that smoked pot a few times
- 322
- 00:14:06,933 --> 00:14:09,935
- and was like, "Eh, I don't like
- the way it makes me feel."
- 323
- 00:14:09,936 --> 00:14:12,415
- On the other hand,
- I had to do something,
- 324
- 00:14:12,416 --> 00:14:16,724
- because life was becoming
- less worthwhile living
- 325
- 00:14:16,725 --> 00:14:19,248
- day by day.
- 326
- 00:14:19,249 --> 00:14:22,034
- Oh, it's gorgeous.
- 327
- 00:14:22,035 --> 00:14:23,949
- Okay.
- 328
- 00:14:23,950 --> 00:14:26,560
- Be careful with that water while
- I'm over here with the weed.
- 329
- 00:14:26,561 --> 00:14:28,518
- - You know how I feel about that.
- - All done.
- 330
- 00:14:28,519 --> 00:14:30,520
- STEWART: It's done. There's
- not even a dose left in that.
- 331
- 00:14:30,521 --> 00:14:33,828
- Okay. Want to taste it?
- 332
- 00:14:33,829 --> 00:14:35,786
- Ohh. It's gorgeous.
- 333
- 00:14:35,787 --> 00:14:37,353
- Purple Urkle.
- 334
- 00:14:37,354 --> 00:14:39,921
- GORDON: What I found
- was no consistency,
- 335
- 00:14:39,922 --> 00:14:41,705
- no predictability,
- 336
- 00:14:41,706 --> 00:14:44,621
- certainly nothing that
- remotely resembled medicine.
- 337
- 00:14:44,622 --> 00:14:47,624
- So, as a process engineer,
- I'm gonna have to do it myself.
- 338
- 00:14:47,625 --> 00:14:50,889
- STEWART: We learned that
- we had to activate it first
- 339
- 00:14:50,890 --> 00:14:52,412
- or decarboxylate it,
- 340
- 00:14:52,413 --> 00:14:55,632
- and then you can cook that
- into an oil base.
- 341
- 00:14:55,633 --> 00:14:57,634
- And so we went in the cookbook
- 342
- 00:14:57,635 --> 00:14:59,810
- and tried to find the recipe
- with the most oil in it.
- 343
- 00:14:59,811 --> 00:15:04,076
- GORDON: The first thing I made
- was my Aunt Zelda's carrot cake.
- 344
- 00:15:04,077 --> 00:15:06,034
- I can gauge how strong I made it
- 345
- 00:15:06,035 --> 00:15:08,080
- by how much of regular oil
- 346
- 00:15:08,081 --> 00:15:10,473
- versus infused oil I put in it.
- 347
- 00:15:10,474 --> 00:15:11,735
- Then we would weigh the piece
- 348
- 00:15:11,736 --> 00:15:14,434
- and know exactly
- what the dose was
- 349
- 00:15:14,435 --> 00:15:16,958
- in each and every piece.
- And that's called medicine.
- 350
- 00:15:16,959 --> 00:15:19,091
- What's happened
- just from having the cannabis
- 351
- 00:15:19,092 --> 00:15:22,790
- as far as improving my health
- has just been miraculous.
- 352
- 00:15:22,791 --> 00:15:25,619
- Hey, Nance. Mara here.
- I just wanted to let you know...
- 353
- 00:15:25,620 --> 00:15:29,449
- I know you've got the 0.054
- capsules of the Cannatonic.
- 354
- 00:15:29,450 --> 00:15:31,581
- If there's any way you can
- back off a little bit
- 355
- 00:15:31,582 --> 00:15:35,455
- on the morphine and oxycodone,
- that would be really great.
- 356
- 00:15:35,456 --> 00:15:38,110
- I have to make up the medicine
- for Linda.
- 357
- 00:15:38,111 --> 00:15:39,589
- Got Marie.
- 358
- 00:15:39,590 --> 00:15:41,026
- The way I manage this
- is pretty much
- 359
- 00:15:41,027 --> 00:15:42,505
- with my hair on fire
- all the time.
- 360
- 00:15:42,506 --> 00:15:46,335
- Unfortunately,
- it's just Stewart and me.
- 361
- 00:15:46,336 --> 00:15:48,207
- STEWART: The biggest problem
- with cannabis
- 362
- 00:15:48,208 --> 00:15:50,861
- is that everybody has such
- a different tolerance for it
- 363
- 00:15:50,862 --> 00:15:53,560
- that the biggest problem
- is dosing.
- 364
- 00:15:53,561 --> 00:15:55,518
- And that's why we're
- dosing specialists.
- 365
- 00:15:55,519 --> 00:15:57,129
- GORDON: Now, what
- do you recommend
- 366
- 00:15:57,130 --> 00:15:58,739
- for Linda for her cancer?
- 367
- 00:15:58,740 --> 00:16:01,176
- She's at stage IV.
- It's in both lungs now.
- 368
- 00:16:01,177 --> 00:16:02,830
- It's all through her abdomen.
- 369
- 00:16:02,831 --> 00:16:05,398
- So we really have to get
- aggressive at this point.
- 370
- 00:16:05,399 --> 00:16:07,095
- - STEWART: Mm-hmm.
- - But she doesn't want to have
- 371
- 00:16:07,096 --> 00:16:10,664
- that feeling of that "stoniness"
- with the high THC.
- 372
- 00:16:10,665 --> 00:16:12,666
- I was thinking about putting her
- on the Williams Wonder
- 373
- 00:16:12,667 --> 00:16:15,016
- and then cutting it
- with the Cannatonic.
- 374
- 00:16:15,017 --> 00:16:16,148
- That's a good plan.
- 375
- 00:16:16,149 --> 00:16:17,714
- Okay.
- 376
- 00:16:17,715 --> 00:16:19,455
- Marie.
- 377
- 00:16:19,456 --> 00:16:21,457
- GORDON: As many people
- as we can help,
- 378
- 00:16:21,458 --> 00:16:23,416
- I mean, we just can't say no.
- 379
- 00:16:23,417 --> 00:16:25,418
- I mean, how can you say no
- to a needy person?
- 380
- 00:16:25,419 --> 00:16:27,420
- I mean, how can we
- send them somewhere
- 381
- 00:16:27,421 --> 00:16:30,553
- where they're just gonna get
- bad product or bad information?
- 382
- 00:16:30,554 --> 00:16:33,165
- The whole protocol's gonna be
- about a pound,
- 383
- 00:16:33,166 --> 00:16:36,342
- which is like $1,200
- is about what we pay for it.
- 384
- 00:16:36,343 --> 00:16:39,954
- And we just pass that on to you,
- and then we cover the overhead.
- 385
- 00:16:39,955 --> 00:16:42,435
- Well, how did you find us?
- Google!
- 386
- 00:16:42,436 --> 00:16:44,045
- I didn't even know
- we were on Google.
- 387
- 00:16:44,046 --> 00:16:46,178
- Take care. Help's on the way.
- 388
- 00:16:46,179 --> 00:16:48,310
- [Indistinct conversations]
- 389
- 00:16:48,311 --> 00:16:53,794
- ♪♪
- 390
- 00:16:53,795 --> 00:16:59,060
- ♪♪
- 391
- 00:16:59,061 --> 00:17:00,714
- That looks great.
- 392
- 00:17:00,715 --> 00:17:03,369
- ♪♪
- 393
- 00:17:03,370 --> 00:17:04,892
- Seizure reduction went from 30%
- 394
- 00:17:04,893 --> 00:17:07,068
- - to 70% seizure reduction.
- - Wow.
- 395
- 00:17:07,069 --> 00:17:09,201
- GOLDSTEIN: I've been a physician
- now for 24 years.
- 396
- 00:17:09,202 --> 00:17:13,596
- I made the change from pediatric
- ER to cannabis practice
- 397
- 00:17:13,597 --> 00:17:16,382
- because I knew someone
- who was using medical cannabis
- 398
- 00:17:16,383 --> 00:17:18,036
- who was sick.
- 399
- 00:17:18,037 --> 00:17:20,255
- And seeing her do so well
- with this, I thought,
- 400
- 00:17:20,256 --> 00:17:22,083
- "Wow, here I am, a doctor,
- 401
- 00:17:22,084 --> 00:17:24,868
- and I don't even have an opinion
- 'cause I don't know."
- 402
- 00:17:24,869 --> 00:17:27,001
- So that's kind of where, then,
- I started that quest
- 403
- 00:17:27,002 --> 00:17:30,613
- for knowledge to make myself
- a person who understands this
- 404
- 00:17:30,614 --> 00:17:33,268
- and then can help
- other people understand it.
- 405
- 00:17:33,269 --> 00:17:36,228
- Good morning, everybody, and
- thank you for getting up early
- 406
- 00:17:36,229 --> 00:17:37,881
- to come here and hear me speak.
- 407
- 00:17:37,882 --> 00:17:41,885
- I have seen things
- that we can call miracles,
- 408
- 00:17:41,886 --> 00:17:44,410
- and I think it's really
- important to understand
- 409
- 00:17:44,411 --> 00:17:46,803
- that to a family
- that's suffering,
- 410
- 00:17:46,804 --> 00:17:49,589
- it feels like a miracle,
- but it's really just science,
- 411
- 00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:51,808
- and there's no reason
- to be afraid of it
- 412
- 00:17:51,809 --> 00:17:55,116
- and there's no reason
- that this is not an option
- 413
- 00:17:55,117 --> 00:17:57,249
- for everyone.
- 414
- 00:17:57,250 --> 00:18:01,905
- In 1988, researchers discovered
- living things... humans...
- 415
- 00:18:01,906 --> 00:18:05,735
- Have cannabinoid receptors
- in their brains.
- 416
- 00:18:05,736 --> 00:18:08,086
- AGGARWAL: Most people
- are familiar with dopamine,
- 417
- 00:18:08,087 --> 00:18:11,611
- serotonin, norepinephrine...
- Classical neurotransmitters.
- 418
- 00:18:11,612 --> 00:18:13,178
- Neurotransmitters are chemicals
- 419
- 00:18:13,179 --> 00:18:16,094
- that allow neurons
- to talk to each other.
- 420
- 00:18:16,095 --> 00:18:17,965
- When neuron "A"
- talks to neuron "B,"
- 421
- 00:18:17,966 --> 00:18:20,707
- it sends a chemical messenger
- across the synapse,
- 422
- 00:18:20,708 --> 00:18:22,448
- and that binds to receptors
- at neuron "B,"
- 423
- 00:18:22,449 --> 00:18:24,232
- and then that turns
- into electricity.
- 424
- 00:18:24,233 --> 00:18:26,060
- WARE: What we've discovered
- is that there's...
- 425
- 00:18:26,061 --> 00:18:30,369
- Part of that system is governed
- by cannabinoid compounds.
- 426
- 00:18:30,370 --> 00:18:32,066
- These are just molecules
- that we have
- 427
- 00:18:32,067 --> 00:18:34,199
- that bind to these
- specific receptors.
- 428
- 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,463
- And they seem to play a role
- in smoothing out
- 429
- 00:18:37,464 --> 00:18:40,292
- the whole communication process.
- 430
- 00:18:40,293 --> 00:18:42,032
- It seems to be so important
- 431
- 00:18:42,033 --> 00:18:45,906
- that a group at NIH
- recently published a review
- 432
- 00:18:45,907 --> 00:18:48,648
- and said that
- the endocannabinoid system
- 433
- 00:18:48,649 --> 00:18:52,869
- is involved in essentially
- all human diseases.
- 434
- 00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:56,656
- Now, that's a very strong
- statement. Very strong.
- 435
- 00:18:56,657 --> 00:18:58,832
- Those receptors are not there
- for the cannabis plant,
- 436
- 00:18:58,833 --> 00:19:01,661
- but it turns out that
- the cannabis plant compounds
- 437
- 00:19:01,662 --> 00:19:04,925
- called cannabinoids
- work at those receptors.
- 438
- 00:19:04,926 --> 00:19:07,623
- WARE: So, when you take
- a cannabinoid in from outside
- 439
- 00:19:07,624 --> 00:19:10,887
- by smoking or vaporizing
- or eating or a pharmaceutical,
- 440
- 00:19:10,888 --> 00:19:13,325
- you are somehow tinkering
- with that system
- 441
- 00:19:13,326 --> 00:19:15,631
- and adjusting the way
- in which those nerves
- 442
- 00:19:15,632 --> 00:19:18,112
- and muscles
- and communications happen.
- 443
- 00:19:18,113 --> 00:19:20,158
- I often joke around
- with my patients,
- 444
- 00:19:20,159 --> 00:19:21,942
- it's not magic fairy dust.
- 445
- 00:19:21,943 --> 00:19:23,509
- It's not voodoo.
- 446
- 00:19:23,510 --> 00:19:25,075
- There are chemical compounds
- in the plant
- 447
- 00:19:25,076 --> 00:19:27,295
- that interact with the cells
- in our brains
- 448
- 00:19:27,296 --> 00:19:30,342
- and in our bodies
- and have certain reactions.
- 449
- 00:19:30,343 --> 00:19:32,648
- It's the same
- as every other drug.
- 450
- 00:19:32,649 --> 00:19:35,522
- It just came from a plant.
- 451
- 00:19:37,088 --> 00:19:40,917
- HARRIS: I, as an herbalist,
- felt duped, felt lied to
- 452
- 00:19:40,918 --> 00:19:43,833
- 'cause I tell people about
- magnificent herbs all the time.
- 453
- 00:19:43,834 --> 00:19:46,488
- Cannabis was just off-limits.
- 454
- 00:19:46,489 --> 00:19:48,011
- I mean, I was in that
- culture of it.
- 455
- 00:19:48,012 --> 00:19:50,579
- I thought it was
- this poisonous weed.
- 456
- 00:19:50,580 --> 00:19:52,233
- I have nine children,
- 457
- 00:19:52,234 --> 00:19:54,235
- and I have seen a lot
- of people with cancer.
- 458
- 00:19:54,236 --> 00:19:58,674
- These experiences are just
- too overwhelming to ignore.
- 459
- 00:19:58,675 --> 00:20:00,850
- I looked at my books and said,
- 460
- 00:20:00,851 --> 00:20:02,156
- "There has to be
- cannabis in here.
- 461
- 00:20:02,157 --> 00:20:03,288
- I've never looked for it."
- 462
- 00:20:03,289 --> 00:20:05,072
- And it was everywhere.
- 463
- 00:20:05,073 --> 00:20:07,509
- They start out with,
- "This is so well-known
- 464
- 00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:09,337
- to every good housewife
- in the country
- 465
- 00:20:09,338 --> 00:20:11,165
- that I shall not need
- to write a description of it."
- 466
- 00:20:11,166 --> 00:20:12,558
- And then it goes down
- to tell you,
- 467
- 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:15,256
- including how to use the roots.
- 468
- 00:20:15,257 --> 00:20:17,650
- And this book is...
- 469
- 00:20:17,651 --> 00:20:19,217
- This book is 1805.
- 470
- 00:20:19,218 --> 00:20:22,829
- All of these tabs
- are references to cannabis
- 471
- 00:20:22,830 --> 00:20:24,613
- and how to use cannabis.
- 472
- 00:20:24,614 --> 00:20:27,312
- We lost this!
- This is a tool we really need,
- 473
- 00:20:27,313 --> 00:20:29,879
- and we're not too stupid
- to do it.
- 474
- 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:32,926
- We're not too stupid
- to handle this plant.
- 475
- 00:20:32,927 --> 00:20:34,754
- ♪♪
- 476
- 00:20:34,755 --> 00:20:36,625
- BEARMAN: My father said to
- me, "You know,
- 477
- 00:20:36,626 --> 00:20:38,584
- when I was at the University
- of Minnesota
- 478
- 00:20:38,585 --> 00:20:42,283
- School of Pharmacy in 1928,
- one of the assignments we had
- 479
- 00:20:42,284 --> 00:20:43,719
- was to make tincture cannabis.
- 480
- 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,417
- And we had to be very careful,
- 481
- 00:20:45,418 --> 00:20:47,723
- because the alcohol
- was illegal."
- 482
- 00:20:47,724 --> 00:20:49,159
- I thought,
- "Well, how quaint, you know,
- 483
- 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,858
- but we don't
- use plants anymore."
- 484
- 00:20:51,859 --> 00:20:54,774
- And it probably took me
- a good 15 or 20 years
- 485
- 00:20:54,775 --> 00:20:58,908
- to really appreciate that
- this stuff still was medicine.
- 486
- 00:20:58,909 --> 00:21:00,997
- NADELMANN: It was part of
- the pharmacopeia, you know,
- 487
- 00:21:00,998 --> 00:21:02,651
- well into the 20th century.
- 488
- 00:21:02,652 --> 00:21:04,827
- It was a frequently
- prescribed medication...
- 489
- 00:21:04,828 --> 00:21:08,091
- Not to smoke it,
- but in its tinctures, et cetera.
- 490
- 00:21:08,092 --> 00:21:12,705
- And if you look at, then, why
- and how it was criminalized,
- 491
- 00:21:12,706 --> 00:21:15,795
- really, the key factor
- was the role
- 492
- 00:21:15,796 --> 00:21:18,885
- of racism and xenophobia,
- 493
- 00:21:18,886 --> 00:21:21,322
- anti-Mexican sentiment.
- 494
- 00:21:21,323 --> 00:21:26,632
- ♪♪
- 495
- 00:21:26,633 --> 00:21:31,985
- ♪♪
- 496
- 00:21:31,986 --> 00:21:35,467
- People often point their finger
- at Harry Anslinger,
- 497
- 00:21:35,468 --> 00:21:37,251
- who was the founder,
- 498
- 00:21:37,252 --> 00:21:38,861
- the first head of the
- Federal Bureau of Narcotics.
- 499
- 00:21:38,862 --> 00:21:40,689
- But, in fact,
- he didn't start off
- 500
- 00:21:40,690 --> 00:21:43,257
- being an anti-marijuana
- ideologue.
- 501
- 00:21:43,258 --> 00:21:45,390
- It was really
- as the '30s progressed
- 502
- 00:21:45,391 --> 00:21:49,481
- that he began to see the
- political opportunity in this.
- 503
- 00:21:49,482 --> 00:21:52,397
- The Marijuana Tax Act of 1937
- 504
- 00:21:52,398 --> 00:21:55,356
- is basically a prohibition law.
- 505
- 00:21:55,357 --> 00:21:58,403
- The American Medical Association
- told Congress in 1937,
- 506
- 00:21:58,404 --> 00:21:59,969
- "We sent a representative
- and said
- 507
- 00:21:59,970 --> 00:22:01,884
- that you should not
- ban this substance,
- 508
- 00:22:01,885 --> 00:22:04,539
- because substantial medical uses
- and developments
- 509
- 00:22:04,540 --> 00:22:06,193
- will be neglected, and also,
- 510
- 00:22:06,194 --> 00:22:07,934
- there's things that we're
- already using this for
- 511
- 00:22:07,935 --> 00:22:11,677
- that we don't have
- substitutes for."
- 512
- 00:22:11,678 --> 00:22:13,243
- Is this a medicine?
- 513
- 00:22:13,244 --> 00:22:16,464
- Cannabis has been a medicine
- for 3,000 years.
- 514
- 00:22:16,465 --> 00:22:20,555
- It only hasn't been a medicine
- in this country for 70 years.
- 515
- 00:22:20,556 --> 00:22:23,341
- I think it's a medicine.
- 516
- 00:22:23,342 --> 00:22:26,213
- It's 70 years of propaganda that
- you're trying to fight against,
- 517
- 00:22:26,214 --> 00:22:29,172
- and that's not something
- that's gonna change overnight.
- 518
- 00:22:29,173 --> 00:22:30,696
- I mean, honestly, you know,
- a lot of people
- 519
- 00:22:30,697 --> 00:22:32,480
- look at me and say, "Really?
- 520
- 00:22:32,481 --> 00:22:34,874
- You would have given your
- 7-year-old child marijuana?"
- 521
- 00:22:34,875 --> 00:22:37,529
- And with what I know now,
- absolutely.
- 522
- 00:22:37,530 --> 00:22:39,531
- But if you'd have asked me
- that same question
- 523
- 00:22:39,532 --> 00:22:41,315
- four, five years ago,
- 524
- 00:22:41,316 --> 00:22:43,926
- I probably would have been
- in that skeptical camp.
- 525
- 00:22:43,927 --> 00:22:46,712
- You know, unfortunately,
- the parents know more about this
- 526
- 00:22:46,713 --> 00:22:50,106
- than the doctors do, because
- when you become so desperate
- 527
- 00:22:50,107 --> 00:22:53,980
- that you're willing
- to try anything, you learn.
- 528
- 00:22:53,981 --> 00:22:55,547
- And if I cry, I apologize,
- 529
- 00:22:55,548 --> 00:22:57,984
- but a day before
- my son passed away,
- 530
- 00:22:57,985 --> 00:22:59,812
- I prayed to God to take him,
- 531
- 00:22:59,813 --> 00:23:03,076
- because the suffering
- was just too bad.
- 532
- 00:23:03,077 --> 00:23:06,166
- And if I can help one parent,
- just one,
- 533
- 00:23:06,167 --> 00:23:09,038
- not make that prayer
- of desperation,
- 534
- 00:23:09,039 --> 00:23:12,433
- that's what my goal is
- in life now.
- 535
- 00:23:12,434 --> 00:23:14,609
- ♪♪
- 536
- 00:23:14,610 --> 00:23:18,265
- TRACY: Here's her bottle.
- Give Mama a kiss.
- 537
- 00:23:18,266 --> 00:23:21,137
- Say, "Nap time. I'll see you...
- I'll see you in an hour."
- 538
- 00:23:21,138 --> 00:23:25,490
- This is her cannabis oil regimen
- that we have right now.
- 539
- 00:23:25,491 --> 00:23:27,187
- "CT" stands for the Cannatonic.
- 540
- 00:23:27,188 --> 00:23:30,669
- We give her the size
- of about 1/2 grain of rice
- 541
- 00:23:30,670 --> 00:23:32,105
- two times a day.
- 542
- 00:23:32,106 --> 00:23:33,933
- So, this is what Sophie
- looks like
- 543
- 00:23:33,934 --> 00:23:36,501
- when she starts to feel
- the effects of her medicine.
- 544
- 00:23:36,502 --> 00:23:38,154
- She's not moving around as much,
- 545
- 00:23:38,155 --> 00:23:41,941
- and she's a little sleepy-faced,
- but this is it.
- 546
- 00:23:41,942 --> 00:23:43,725
- It is day eight
- 547
- 00:23:43,726 --> 00:23:46,554
- since we first started
- giving her the cannabis oil.
- 548
- 00:23:46,555 --> 00:23:50,340
- She, as of today, is starting
- to get two different oils.
- 549
- 00:23:50,341 --> 00:23:52,342
- So, considering
- that a little bit of sleepiness
- 550
- 00:23:52,343 --> 00:23:54,910
- is all we're seeing
- as a side effect,
- 551
- 00:23:54,911 --> 00:23:57,043
- I'd say this has definitely been
- a much better alternative
- 552
- 00:23:57,044 --> 00:23:59,393
- to the chemo thus far.
- 553
- 00:23:59,394 --> 00:24:00,916
- All right, let's see
- if we can get her to take it.
- 554
- 00:24:00,917 --> 00:24:01,961
- Come on, honey.
- 555
- 00:24:01,962 --> 00:24:03,397
- [Gasps] Good girl.
- 556
- 00:24:03,398 --> 00:24:04,920
- There you go.
- 557
- 00:24:04,921 --> 00:24:07,575
- We just put a little drop
- on her pacifier.
- 558
- 00:24:07,576 --> 00:24:09,359
- Tiny, tiny little drop.
- 559
- 00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:12,058
- We're gonna give that to her
- while she's sleeping.
- 560
- 00:24:12,059 --> 00:24:14,626
- So, we had to up
- Sophie's medicine.
- 561
- 00:24:14,627 --> 00:24:16,279
- She's in a very good mood.
- 562
- 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,629
- Aren't you, honey?
- 563
- 00:24:17,630 --> 00:24:19,413
- Are you happy right now?
- 564
- 00:24:19,414 --> 00:24:21,633
- She is playful
- 565
- 00:24:21,634 --> 00:24:24,505
- and laughing and smiling.
- 566
- 00:24:24,506 --> 00:24:26,420
- Yeah, I'm just glad you guys
- are supporting us
- 567
- 00:24:26,421 --> 00:24:27,987
- holding off on the chemo.
- 568
- 00:24:27,988 --> 00:24:29,815
- CHENG: We recognize
- with this diagnosis,
- 569
- 00:24:29,816 --> 00:24:31,425
- you know,
- there is some room here
- 570
- 00:24:31,426 --> 00:24:34,472
- in terms of exploring
- complementary therapies.
- 571
- 00:24:34,473 --> 00:24:36,125
- But in general, we have
- 572
- 00:24:36,126 --> 00:24:37,823
- a historical standard
- of care that we have.
- 573
- 00:24:37,824 --> 00:24:39,607
- As long as we keep that in mind,
- you know...
- 574
- 00:24:39,608 --> 00:24:41,174
- - TRACY: Absolutely.
- - ...moving forward, for sure,
- 575
- 00:24:41,175 --> 00:24:43,524
- we definitely
- can intervene at any time.
- 576
- 00:24:43,525 --> 00:24:45,439
- And she already has
- the port device in place.
- 577
- 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,180
- TRACY: It's already there.
- 578
- 00:24:47,181 --> 00:24:49,356
- They all know what
- our treatment plan is.
- 579
- 00:24:49,357 --> 00:24:51,663
- They all know
- we're using the oils.
- 580
- 00:24:51,664 --> 00:24:53,665
- They've had nothing
- negative to say.
- 581
- 00:24:53,666 --> 00:24:56,537
- They haven't thought
- in any way, shape, or form
- 582
- 00:24:56,538 --> 00:24:59,322
- we're being bad parents
- or doing anything
- 583
- 00:24:59,323 --> 00:25:02,369
- that is harmful to our child
- in any way, which is fantastic,
- 584
- 00:25:02,370 --> 00:25:06,460
- because we wouldn't do it if
- our doctors didn't support us.
- 585
- 00:25:06,461 --> 00:25:09,855
- He did bring up, you know,
- the "chemo" word,
- 586
- 00:25:09,856 --> 00:25:12,727
- which, yeah, I even hate
- talking about it.
- 587
- 00:25:12,728 --> 00:25:15,730
- We still believe in our hearts
- that this is gonna work.
- 588
- 00:25:15,731 --> 00:25:17,863
- I mean, she's thriving
- right now.
- 589
- 00:25:17,864 --> 00:25:19,429
- Her eye's getting better,
- 590
- 00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:21,431
- and I don't know
- if it means anything,
- 591
- 00:25:21,432 --> 00:25:24,217
- and Dr. Cheng couldn't tell us
- if it means anything,
- 592
- 00:25:24,218 --> 00:25:28,438
- because you don't know until
- you actually do the MRI scan.
- 593
- 00:25:28,439 --> 00:25:31,093
- If I looked at it
- from a logical standpoint,
- 594
- 00:25:31,094 --> 00:25:34,619
- as the tumor gets smaller
- and releases pressure,
- 595
- 00:25:34,620 --> 00:25:36,055
- the eye shakes less.
- 596
- 00:25:36,056 --> 00:25:38,579
- That, to me,
- is logical thinking.
- 597
- 00:25:38,580 --> 00:25:42,235
- - Right.
- - So I'm gonna go with logic
- 598
- 00:25:42,236 --> 00:25:44,716
- and say that the tumor's
- already getting smaller.
- 599
- 00:25:44,717 --> 00:25:46,544
- That's what I'm gonna go with.
- 600
- 00:25:46,545 --> 00:25:50,635
- ♪♪
- 601
- 00:25:50,636 --> 00:25:53,072
- MAN: Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
- 602
- 00:25:53,073 --> 00:25:55,640
- Oh, A.J. has seen a doctor.
- 603
- 00:25:55,641 --> 00:25:57,860
- [Indistinct conversations]
- 604
- 00:25:59,601 --> 00:26:03,083
- He has to see the doctor so
- he can get some more medicine.
- 605
- 00:26:05,955 --> 00:26:09,218
- If you're good... If we good,
- we're gonna go
- 606
- 00:26:09,219 --> 00:26:11,133
- get some chocolate,
- and Dad gonna get some.
- 607
- 00:26:11,134 --> 00:26:14,920
- GOLDSTEIN: Let me check
- your eyeballs. Look at my nose.
- 608
- 00:26:14,921 --> 00:26:16,748
- Okay, now, can you follow
- the light with your eyes?
- 609
- 00:26:16,749 --> 00:26:18,446
- Don't move your head.
- 610
- 00:26:21,536 --> 00:26:23,102
- Look up.
- 611
- 00:26:23,103 --> 00:26:24,538
- ANGELA P.: We went
- to the pediatricians.
- 612
- 00:26:24,539 --> 00:26:26,192
- - GOLDSTEIN: Okay.
- - They evaluated him,
- 613
- 00:26:26,193 --> 00:26:28,977
- and that's when she sent us
- to the ER
- 614
- 00:26:28,978 --> 00:26:33,460
- and said that we probably
- would not return home,
- 615
- 00:26:33,461 --> 00:26:35,462
- because she realized
- it was serious.
- 616
- 00:26:35,463 --> 00:26:37,203
- GOLDSTEIN: Right, so they
- diagnosed it based on
- 617
- 00:26:37,204 --> 00:26:38,770
- what they saw on the CAT scan
- 618
- 00:26:38,771 --> 00:26:40,423
- - and the MRI, right?
- - Yes, ma'am.
- 619
- 00:26:40,424 --> 00:26:42,034
- GOLDSTEIN: And then
- what did they tell you?
- 620
- 00:26:42,035 --> 00:26:44,340
- ANGELA P.: What they
- normally do is radiation.
- 621
- 00:26:44,341 --> 00:26:46,342
- It had to be done,
- like, right away,
- 622
- 00:26:46,343 --> 00:26:47,953
- because he was already
- to the point
- 623
- 00:26:47,954 --> 00:26:50,477
- where he couldn't swallow
- by the time we...
- 624
- 00:26:50,478 --> 00:26:53,785
- Like, the first day
- of being in the hospital.
- 625
- 00:26:53,786 --> 00:26:56,788
- GOLDSTEIN: And what did they
- tell you his prognosis is?
- 626
- 00:26:56,789 --> 00:27:00,966
- Well, they suspect
- six to nine months of life.
- 627
- 00:27:00,967 --> 00:27:02,924
- After that, then it would be
- the end for him.
- 628
- 00:27:02,925 --> 00:27:05,579
- GOLDSTEIN: So, they shrunk it to
- give him more quality of life.
- 629
- 00:27:05,580 --> 00:27:08,016
- - ANGELA P.: Right. Yes, ma'am.
- - GOLDSTEIN: Right. Okay.
- 630
- 00:27:08,017 --> 00:27:09,278
- And they had
- nothing more to offer.
- 631
- 00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:10,410
- GOLDSTEIN: That's so scary.
- 632
- 00:27:10,411 --> 00:27:11,541
- - Yeah. Yeah.
- - It is.
- 633
- 00:27:11,542 --> 00:27:13,108
- In the state of California,
- 634
- 00:27:13,109 --> 00:27:15,807
- my job as a medical
- cannabis consultant
- 635
- 00:27:15,808 --> 00:27:20,333
- is to determine whether or not
- A.J. qualifies based on the law
- 636
- 00:27:20,334 --> 00:27:22,814
- for medical cannabis,
- and he does, okay?
- 637
- 00:27:22,815 --> 00:27:25,817
- So you're gonna...
- I'm gonna get you the letter.
- 638
- 00:27:25,818 --> 00:27:27,253
- Everybody talks about a card.
- 639
- 00:27:27,254 --> 00:27:29,211
- It's not a card.
- It's a letter.
- 640
- 00:27:29,212 --> 00:27:31,257
- And in that letter, I make
- the statement that he qualifies
- 641
- 00:27:31,258 --> 00:27:33,476
- and that I'm approving him
- to use it, okay?
- 642
- 00:27:33,477 --> 00:27:37,350
- You've probably heard stories
- of some of the other patients
- 643
- 00:27:37,351 --> 00:27:39,047
- that have had brain tumors
- 644
- 00:27:39,048 --> 00:27:42,094
- that are responding
- to high-dose cannabis oil.
- 645
- 00:27:42,095 --> 00:27:43,965
- - Yes, ma'am.
- - There are no guarantees,
- 646
- 00:27:43,966 --> 00:27:46,838
- because I have to tell you
- there's no clinical trials.
- 647
- 00:27:46,839 --> 00:27:49,188
- There's no...
- 648
- 00:27:49,189 --> 00:27:51,451
- "Oh, I have had 10 kids
- with the same tumor,
- 649
- 00:27:51,452 --> 00:27:53,714
- and we studied them,
- and half of them got placebo,
- 650
- 00:27:53,715 --> 00:27:56,195
- and half of them"...
- It just doesn't exist.
- 651
- 00:27:56,196 --> 00:27:58,545
- He's still within two months
- of being diagnosed.
- 652
- 00:27:58,546 --> 00:28:00,286
- - ANGELA P.: Right.
- - It's still pretty early, right,
- 653
- 00:28:00,287 --> 00:28:02,288
- even though it's
- a fairly aggressive tumor.
- 654
- 00:28:02,289 --> 00:28:03,768
- - ANGELA P.: Right.
- - You're not coming here
- 655
- 00:28:03,769 --> 00:28:05,247
- saying, you know, "We have...
- 656
- 00:28:05,248 --> 00:28:07,162
- You know,
- they gave us two weeks."
- 657
- 00:28:07,163 --> 00:28:10,165
- You have some time here,
- which is really good.
- 658
- 00:28:10,166 --> 00:28:11,645
- - Okay.
- - Okay?
- 659
- 00:28:11,646 --> 00:28:14,039
- - There are some side effects.
- - Okay.
- 660
- 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,172
- They're not like
- side effects of chemo,
- 661
- 00:28:17,173 --> 00:28:19,131
- - which are devastating.
- - Right. Right.
- 662
- 00:28:19,132 --> 00:28:22,264
- It's, to me, nothing to be
- afraid of at this point, right,
- 663
- 00:28:22,265 --> 00:28:24,005
- because for him,
- I mean, you know,
- 664
- 00:28:24,006 --> 00:28:26,834
- not to be dramatic about it,
- but it's life-and-death.
- 665
- 00:28:26,835 --> 00:28:29,881
- I mean, you're not getting
- any other options here.
- 666
- 00:28:29,882 --> 00:28:33,232
- And as a mom myself,
- I would do it in a heartbeat
- 667
- 00:28:33,233 --> 00:28:35,321
- knowing what I know
- and seeing what I've seen.
- 668
- 00:28:35,322 --> 00:28:37,585
- - Okay?
- - Okay. Yes, ma'am.
- 669
- 00:28:40,501 --> 00:28:42,545
- What kind of medicine
- are we giving her?
- 670
- 00:28:42,546 --> 00:28:44,243
- Um, turmeric.
- 671
- 00:28:44,244 --> 00:28:45,940
- Turmeric? Mm.
- 672
- 00:28:45,941 --> 00:28:49,901
- Yeah. She doesn't care
- if it's spicy.
- 673
- 00:28:49,902 --> 00:28:51,554
- She's used to it.
- 674
- 00:28:51,555 --> 00:28:54,470
- Oh, what a brave girl.
- She's brave.
- 675
- 00:28:54,471 --> 00:28:58,039
- And then, what else
- do you give her?
- 676
- 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,955
- I give her black medicine.
- 677
- 00:29:00,956 --> 00:29:03,958
- What do you give
- the black medicine on?
- 678
- 00:29:03,959 --> 00:29:05,394
- Ice cream.
- 679
- 00:29:05,395 --> 00:29:07,266
- Ice cream?
- What kind of ice cream?
- 680
- 00:29:07,267 --> 00:29:09,094
- The good kind.
- 681
- 00:29:09,095 --> 00:29:11,444
- Watch her take
- her black medicine.
- 682
- 00:29:11,445 --> 00:29:13,446
- JIM: You're gonna give
- your baby black meds?
- 683
- 00:29:13,447 --> 00:29:15,230
- CECILIA: Mm-hmm.
- 684
- 00:29:15,231 --> 00:29:17,102
- JIM: What does that do?
- 685
- 00:29:17,103 --> 00:29:20,322
- CECILIA: Make the
- cancer go away.
- 686
- 00:29:20,323 --> 00:29:22,020
- JACLYN: I was deathly afraid
- 687
- 00:29:22,021 --> 00:29:23,978
- when I realized we were
- on the oncology ward.
- 688
- 00:29:23,979 --> 00:29:26,154
- Like, I remember them saying,
- "You have to wash your hands
- 689
- 00:29:26,155 --> 00:29:28,591
- before and after you leave the
- room because we're in oncology.
- 690
- 00:29:28,592 --> 00:29:31,116
- Oncology." And I was like...
- It was like 4:00 in the morning.
- 691
- 00:29:31,117 --> 00:29:32,944
- I'm like, "What does
- oncology mean?
- 692
- 00:29:32,945 --> 00:29:35,250
- I'm sorry if I'm... Like,
- I don't know what this means."
- 693
- 00:29:35,251 --> 00:29:36,948
- And she's like,
- "This is the cancer"...
- 694
- 00:29:36,949 --> 00:29:38,558
- And then that's when it hit me
- 695
- 00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:41,996
- that my daughter,
- like, literally had cancer.
- 696
- 00:29:41,997 --> 00:29:45,478
- They sat me down. They're like,
- "This is a 97% curable rate.
- 697
- 00:29:45,479 --> 00:29:47,219
- She's going to finish
- this treatment.
- 698
- 00:29:47,220 --> 00:29:49,177
- She will go on
- to live a long, healthy life.
- 699
- 00:29:49,178 --> 00:29:50,744
- The side effects
- are very minimal.
- 700
- 00:29:50,745 --> 00:29:52,528
- Like, you have nothing
- to worry about it.
- 701
- 00:29:52,529 --> 00:29:54,661
- Just, like, trust us.
- We'll get you through this.
- 702
- 00:29:54,662 --> 00:29:57,272
- She has the best cancer
- that you can have."
- 703
- 00:29:57,273 --> 00:30:00,058
- So we really did trust them.
- 704
- 00:30:00,059 --> 00:30:02,538
- JIM: She went through
- her six months of chemotherapy,
- 705
- 00:30:02,539 --> 00:30:05,150
- and then we went about
- four months out of treatment
- 706
- 00:30:05,151 --> 00:30:07,892
- without any evidence
- of the disease.
- 707
- 00:30:07,893 --> 00:30:11,373
- I remember I was at work,
- and I got a call from Jaclyn
- 708
- 00:30:11,374 --> 00:30:13,854
- saying that, you know,
- she was breathing weird.
- 709
- 00:30:13,855 --> 00:30:15,638
- Something wasn't right.
- 710
- 00:30:15,639 --> 00:30:17,553
- So we took her
- in the emergency room,
- 711
- 00:30:17,554 --> 00:30:21,079
- and she was diagnosed with
- stage IV complete metastasis.
- 712
- 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,909
- Her right lung was covered
- top to bottom with cancer.
- 713
- 00:30:24,910 --> 00:30:27,433
- ♪♪
- 714
- 00:30:27,434 --> 00:30:29,174
- This time, she would have
- four medications.
- 715
- 00:30:29,175 --> 00:30:30,958
- You have to have two new ones,
- 716
- 00:30:30,959 --> 00:30:34,179
- because, as everyone knows,
- cancer cells...
- 717
- 00:30:34,180 --> 00:30:35,833
- They become resilient
- to chemotherapy.
- 718
- 00:30:35,834 --> 00:30:39,401
- So you have to up it.
- It has to be stronger.
- 719
- 00:30:39,402 --> 00:30:41,316
- JACLYN: This one was much more
- aggressive and harsh,
- 720
- 00:30:41,317 --> 00:30:43,014
- and right away,
- I mean, we could see her.
- 721
- 00:30:43,015 --> 00:30:46,234
- I mean, just, all the life
- that was in her was gone.
- 722
- 00:30:46,235 --> 00:30:48,628
- She was 3 1/2
- 723
- 00:30:48,629 --> 00:30:50,238
- and 19 pounds.
- 724
- 00:30:50,239 --> 00:30:51,718
- JIM: Yeah. We didn't know
- if she would survive it.
- 725
- 00:30:51,719 --> 00:30:53,720
- It wasn't looking very good
- for her,
- 726
- 00:30:53,721 --> 00:30:55,374
- and the hospital
- could not guarantee
- 727
- 00:30:55,375 --> 00:30:57,332
- her long-term survival.
- 728
- 00:30:57,333 --> 00:30:59,857
- And so we were able
- to opt out of treatment,
- 729
- 00:30:59,858 --> 00:31:01,293
- which is very rare.
- 730
- 00:31:01,294 --> 00:31:03,034
- It was an unpopular decision.
- 731
- 00:31:03,035 --> 00:31:04,905
- I personally did not believe
- 732
- 00:31:04,906 --> 00:31:07,908
- she was gonna survive
- the next round of chemotherapy.
- 733
- 00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:11,738
- ♪♪
- 734
- 00:31:11,739 --> 00:31:14,219
- I think my worst fear
- was obviously losing my daughter
- 735
- 00:31:14,220 --> 00:31:16,482
- at home at my own hand.
- 736
- 00:31:16,483 --> 00:31:19,050
- JACLYN: My uncle told us
- about the cannabis oil.
- 737
- 00:31:19,051 --> 00:31:21,835
- He gave me some to try.
- 738
- 00:31:21,836 --> 00:31:23,358
- Yeah, I was...
- 739
- 00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:25,752
- I thought it was...
- I got liquid gold.
- 740
- 00:31:25,753 --> 00:31:28,842
- I was like, "Let's go."
- [Chuckles]
- 741
- 00:31:28,843 --> 00:31:30,757
- So, three months
- after we opted out,
- 742
- 00:31:30,758 --> 00:31:32,324
- we did a scan,
- 743
- 00:31:32,325 --> 00:31:35,893
- and the 4.2 was down
- to 1.62 millimeters.
- 744
- 00:31:35,894 --> 00:31:37,938
- And the one that was
- slightly over 1 millimeter
- 745
- 00:31:37,939 --> 00:31:39,897
- was completely gone.
- 746
- 00:31:39,898 --> 00:31:42,638
- Of course, we believe that
- it was definitely the cannabis.
- 747
- 00:31:42,639 --> 00:31:46,251
- Wow! Can you give him besos?
- 748
- 00:31:46,252 --> 00:31:48,209
- I can honestly tell you
- here right now
- 749
- 00:31:48,210 --> 00:31:50,211
- that my daughter
- would not be alive today
- 750
- 00:31:50,212 --> 00:31:51,952
- if we had not done it.
- 751
- 00:31:51,953 --> 00:31:55,086
- I believe 100% that she is here
- because of that,
- 752
- 00:31:55,087 --> 00:31:58,525
- because of cannabinoids
- and because of our faith in God.
- 753
- 00:32:02,137 --> 00:32:04,530
- SMITH: I don't doubt that
- it's definitely cannabis oil,
- 754
- 00:32:04,531 --> 00:32:06,445
- but we just don't know
- what's in it.
- 755
- 00:32:06,446 --> 00:32:09,578
- I mean, one of the problems
- with it not being regulated
- 756
- 00:32:09,579 --> 00:32:12,277
- and it not being controlled
- is you don't know what you...
- 757
- 00:32:12,278 --> 00:32:13,931
- I mean, you just have to trust
- 758
- 00:32:13,932 --> 00:32:16,020
- that the people
- that you're getting it from
- 759
- 00:32:16,021 --> 00:32:17,630
- are doing it the right way.
- 760
- 00:32:17,631 --> 00:32:19,458
- And I was just a bit concerned
- 761
- 00:32:19,459 --> 00:32:21,286
- because when I opened this,
- 762
- 00:32:21,287 --> 00:32:24,071
- it smelled kind of solvent-y.
- 763
- 00:32:24,072 --> 00:32:25,768
- But they said to leave it out
- to breathe.
- 764
- 00:32:25,769 --> 00:32:27,857
- But it would be interesting
- to know
- 765
- 00:32:27,858 --> 00:32:29,990
- what the components
- of this were.
- 766
- 00:32:29,991 --> 00:32:31,644
- It shouldn't be like that,
- should it?
- 767
- 00:32:31,645 --> 00:32:33,385
- There should be a place
- where you can go to
- 768
- 00:32:33,386 --> 00:32:36,475
- and you can get advice.
- You can get it tailored
- 769
- 00:32:36,476 --> 00:32:39,565
- to their treatment, tailored
- to, "This one at night.
- 770
- 00:32:39,566 --> 00:32:41,175
- This one in the morning."
- 771
- 00:32:41,176 --> 00:32:43,525
- It should be available,
- and it just isn't.
- 772
- 00:32:43,526 --> 00:32:47,051
- And that's why we're all
- floundering in the dark, really.
- 773
- 00:32:47,052 --> 00:32:48,748
- WOMAN: Here you go, sweetie.
- 774
- 00:32:48,749 --> 00:32:50,315
- - So sorry.
- - Hey! It's okay!
- 775
- 00:32:50,316 --> 00:32:51,751
- - Are you Tracy?
- - Yes, nice to meet you.
- 776
- 00:32:51,752 --> 00:32:53,318
- - Lovely to meet you.
- - Come on in.
- 777
- 00:32:53,319 --> 00:32:55,363
- So sorry it's taken me
- so long to get here.
- 778
- 00:32:55,364 --> 00:32:57,148
- - This is Dr. Raber.
- - Hi, Angela.
- 779
- 00:32:57,149 --> 00:32:59,367
- - You can call me Jeff.
- - Heard lots about you. All good.
- 780
- 00:32:59,368 --> 00:33:01,500
- RABER: My job is public
- health and safety...
- 781
- 00:33:01,501 --> 00:33:02,675
- To make sure
- there's nothing here
- 782
- 00:33:02,676 --> 00:33:04,546
- like solvents or pesticides
- 783
- 00:33:04,547 --> 00:33:06,853
- or, you know,
- microbiological contaminants
- 784
- 00:33:06,854 --> 00:33:08,637
- that could cause harm
- in those fashions.
- 785
- 00:33:08,638 --> 00:33:10,422
- We've been kind of doing it
- in the dark, really.
- 786
- 00:33:10,423 --> 00:33:13,468
- So I'll be really grateful
- to hear your...
- 787
- 00:33:13,469 --> 00:33:15,296
- I mean, in the information age,
- 788
- 00:33:15,297 --> 00:33:17,733
- you can get a lot of bad
- information and some good info.
- 789
- 00:33:17,734 --> 00:33:19,605
- Well, that's the problem, yeah.
- That, to me...
- 790
- 00:33:19,606 --> 00:33:22,564
- It's a little bit solvent-y,
- but it's not too bad.
- 791
- 00:33:22,565 --> 00:33:24,479
- Do you think
- that's horribly solvent-y?
- 792
- 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,786
- That smells really... I mean,
- you can let Jeff smell it,
- 793
- 00:33:26,787 --> 00:33:28,570
- but it smells
- very solvent-y to me.
- 794
- 00:33:28,571 --> 00:33:32,313
- JOSH: Yeah, there's something.
- Something different.
- 795
- 00:33:32,314 --> 00:33:33,793
- Well, there's definitely
- a little alcohol,
- 796
- 00:33:33,794 --> 00:33:35,360
- but it smells
- like rubbing alcohol.
- 797
- 00:33:35,361 --> 00:33:37,057
- - TRACY: Yeah.
- - SMITH: Smell that one.
- 798
- 00:33:37,058 --> 00:33:38,972
- - Not like ethanol.
- - That one's worse. Try that one.
- 799
- 00:33:38,973 --> 00:33:40,408
- That one stinks.
- 800
- 00:33:40,409 --> 00:33:41,540
- That one I thought
- wasn't too bad.
- 801
- 00:33:41,541 --> 00:33:43,324
- No, that's rubbing alcohol.
- 802
- 00:33:43,325 --> 00:33:45,283
- That's isopropanol.
- You should not be eating that.
- 803
- 00:33:45,284 --> 00:33:47,111
- No, that's no good.
- 804
- 00:33:47,112 --> 00:33:49,200
- - And they do use that.
- - Oh, that is rubbing alcohol.
- 805
- 00:33:49,201 --> 00:33:51,767
- RABER: It's rubbing alcohol.
- That's not ethanol. No.
- 806
- 00:33:51,768 --> 00:33:53,595
- SMITH: That's not
- food-grade alcohol.
- 807
- 00:33:53,596 --> 00:33:55,423
- That smells like...
- That smells like the alcohol...
- 808
- 00:33:55,424 --> 00:33:57,295
- - And you're giving him... Oh.
- - No, not that one. No.
- 809
- 00:33:57,296 --> 00:34:00,080
- I don't know if you've given him
- tremendously large amounts
- 810
- 00:34:00,081 --> 00:34:02,735
- that you need to be concerned
- about complete damage,
- 811
- 00:34:02,736 --> 00:34:04,780
- but it will, you know,
- be more difficult
- 812
- 00:34:04,781 --> 00:34:06,869
- on the liver to metabolize that,
- 813
- 00:34:06,870 --> 00:34:09,089
- and it could cause damage
- to certain cells.
- 814
- 00:34:09,090 --> 00:34:11,613
- When they're on chemo, and
- they're on other medications,
- 815
- 00:34:11,614 --> 00:34:14,268
- the liver's already on...
- You know, it's pretty busy.
- 816
- 00:34:14,269 --> 00:34:15,965
- So we don't want
- to make it worse.
- 817
- 00:34:15,966 --> 00:34:17,924
- TRACY: Worse. Chico's
- not gonna... He's okay.
- 818
- 00:34:17,925 --> 00:34:19,404
- Okay.
- 819
- 00:34:19,405 --> 00:34:22,798
- And here's the other travesty...
- $3,000.
- 820
- 00:34:22,799 --> 00:34:24,583
- - SMITH: $3,300.
- - $3,000...
- 821
- 00:34:24,584 --> 00:34:27,064
- For those three tiny,
- little pots.
- 822
- 00:34:27,065 --> 00:34:28,239
- RABER: That's disturbing.
- 823
- 00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:29,762
- - I know.
- - A lot.
- 824
- 00:34:29,763 --> 00:34:31,720
- RABER: The hardest
- part of what we do,
- 825
- 00:34:31,721 --> 00:34:33,505
- 'cause I always have to be
- the disseminator of bad news...
- 826
- 00:34:33,506 --> 00:34:35,246
- If the government
- will let us start testing it
- 827
- 00:34:35,247 --> 00:34:37,248
- for medicinal purposes,
- that will help, as well,
- 828
- 00:34:37,249 --> 00:34:39,902
- because right now,
- and correct me if I'm wrong,
- 829
- 00:34:39,903 --> 00:34:41,687
- they're only allowing
- tests to happen
- 830
- 00:34:41,688 --> 00:34:43,950
- that show how it can hurt you,
- not how it can help you.
- 831
- 00:34:43,951 --> 00:34:47,823
- RABER: I believe it was,
- yeah, 6% of the studies
- 832
- 00:34:47,824 --> 00:34:50,261
- are currently funded
- for good purposes,
- 833
- 00:34:50,262 --> 00:34:52,437
- and 94% are looking
- at bad purposes.
- 834
- 00:34:52,438 --> 00:34:54,395
- TRACY: Yeah.
- 835
- 00:34:54,396 --> 00:34:56,963
- NADELMANN: The U.S. National
- Institute on Drug Abuse, NIDA,
- 836
- 00:34:56,964 --> 00:34:59,792
- funds the vast majority
- of drug-abuse research
- 837
- 00:34:59,793 --> 00:35:02,011
- not just in the United States,
- but in the world.
- 838
- 00:35:02,012 --> 00:35:04,579
- The way they encourage
- scientists and researchers
- 839
- 00:35:04,580 --> 00:35:07,930
- was all about trying
- to identify harms.
- 840
- 00:35:07,931 --> 00:35:10,063
- Congress, in 1970,
- 841
- 00:35:10,064 --> 00:35:14,241
- placed marijuana
- in the Schedule I category...
- 842
- 00:35:14,242 --> 00:35:17,201
- High potential for abuse,
- no medical use in treatment.
- 843
- 00:35:17,202 --> 00:35:19,159
- NADELMANN: Marijuana's
- in the same category
- 844
- 00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,161
- with heroin and LSD.
- 845
- 00:35:21,162 --> 00:35:23,772
- Cocaine is in a lower
- category... Schedule II...
- 846
- 00:35:23,773 --> 00:35:26,210
- Because it has
- "legitimate medical uses"
- 847
- 00:35:26,211 --> 00:35:28,168
- in some limited areas.
- 848
- 00:35:28,169 --> 00:35:30,170
- REIMAN: Unfortunately,
- we still have this block
- 849
- 00:35:30,171 --> 00:35:31,606
- of the Schedule I status.
- 850
- 00:35:31,607 --> 00:35:33,565
- So the federal government
- is telling us
- 851
- 00:35:33,566 --> 00:35:36,655
- there's not enough research
- on cannabis to de-schedule it
- 852
- 00:35:36,656 --> 00:35:39,048
- from Schedule I,
- and then they're saying,
- 853
- 00:35:39,049 --> 00:35:42,008
- "But you can't do research
- because it's Schedule I."
- 854
- 00:35:42,009 --> 00:35:45,403
- So it's put us in
- this really horrible position.
- 855
- 00:35:45,404 --> 00:35:48,319
- AGGARWAL: The DEA's blocking
- recognition of this in science
- 856
- 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,147
- on marijuana's medical efficacy,
- 857
- 00:35:50,148 --> 00:35:54,020
- and you just can't
- be in the dark about that
- 858
- 00:35:54,021 --> 00:35:55,978
- and say there's no currently
- accepted medical use
- 859
- 00:35:55,979 --> 00:35:57,632
- in treatment
- in the United States
- 860
- 00:35:57,633 --> 00:35:59,895
- and no standard for safety.
- That's a lie.
- 861
- 00:35:59,896 --> 00:36:03,725
- The first evidence that cannabis
- may have anti-cancer activity
- 862
- 00:36:03,726 --> 00:36:08,861
- actually came from our National
- Cancer Institute in 1974.
- 863
- 00:36:08,862 --> 00:36:13,648
- But mysteriously, those lines
- of investigation disappeared.
- 864
- 00:36:13,649 --> 00:36:16,085
- I started downloading studies
- like five years ago.
- 865
- 00:36:16,086 --> 00:36:20,742
- There were like 450 just
- on reference breast cancer.
- 866
- 00:36:20,743 --> 00:36:23,702
- And now there's
- maybe 30 on there.
- 867
- 00:36:23,703 --> 00:36:25,399
- Where'd all those go?
- Where'd they go?
- 868
- 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,096
- Why'd they go off pubmed. Gov?
- 869
- 00:36:27,097 --> 00:36:29,186
- Why is the government
- taking those studies off?
- 870
- 00:36:29,187 --> 00:36:31,666
- Luckily, there's research
- going on in other countries
- 871
- 00:36:31,667 --> 00:36:35,279
- that hopefully we'll be able
- to use to make a case
- 872
- 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,718
- to de-schedule marijuana
- in the United States.
- 873
- 00:36:44,245 --> 00:36:45,811
- GILD: There are no
- prescriptions in America.
- 874
- 00:36:45,812 --> 00:36:47,465
- There's recommendations.
- 875
- 00:36:47,466 --> 00:36:49,597
- Doctors aren't allowed
- to prescribe cannabis.
- 876
- 00:36:49,598 --> 00:36:51,512
- They're allowed to recommend it.
- 877
- 00:36:51,513 --> 00:36:55,299
- In Israel, every one of the
- patients is prescribed cannabis.
- 878
- 00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:57,126
- It's a federal license.
- 879
- 00:36:57,127 --> 00:36:59,738
- And because
- it's a federal license,
- 880
- 00:36:59,739 --> 00:37:01,522
- the growers grow federally.
- 881
- 00:37:01,523 --> 00:37:03,307
- The patients use federally.
- 882
- 00:37:03,308 --> 00:37:07,485
- So research that's overseen
- by the federal government
- 883
- 00:37:07,486 --> 00:37:09,704
- is then being conducted.
- 884
- 00:37:09,705 --> 00:37:12,620
- So, you don't have that block.
- 885
- 00:37:12,621 --> 00:37:15,014
- So, the research started here
- in the '60s.
- 886
- 00:37:15,015 --> 00:37:17,408
- We were gifted
- with Professor Mechoulum.
- 887
- 00:37:17,409 --> 00:37:20,672
- He isolated the cannabinoid THC.
- 888
- 00:37:20,673 --> 00:37:23,414
- MECHOULUM: How come morphine
- had been isolated
- 889
- 00:37:23,415 --> 00:37:26,765
- from opium 150 years previously,
- 890
- 00:37:26,766 --> 00:37:29,507
- and cocaine had been isolated
- from coca leaves
- 891
- 00:37:29,508 --> 00:37:31,073
- 100 years previously,
- 892
- 00:37:31,074 --> 00:37:34,033
- and the active compound
- in cannabis
- 893
- 00:37:34,034 --> 00:37:36,905
- had never been isolated
- in pure form?
- 894
- 00:37:36,906 --> 00:37:38,777
- It's structure was unknown,
- 895
- 00:37:38,778 --> 00:37:42,607
- so it was impossible
- to do any biological work.
- 896
- 00:37:42,608 --> 00:37:44,435
- In science,
- 897
- 00:37:44,436 --> 00:37:47,438
- Israel is
- a very liberal country.
- 898
- 00:37:47,439 --> 00:37:51,920
- While in the U.S., it was very
- difficult to do cannabis work,
- 899
- 00:37:51,921 --> 00:37:54,619
- here we had absolutely
- no problems.
- 900
- 00:37:54,620 --> 00:38:03,105
- ♪♪
- 901
- 00:38:03,106 --> 00:38:05,499
- GILD: Dedi is the
- epitome of science,
- 902
- 00:38:05,500 --> 00:38:07,632
- the "go by the book,"
- 903
- 00:38:07,633 --> 00:38:10,199
- "study for your eight PhDs,"
- 904
- 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:14,073
- and "work on curing cancer"
- type of guy
- 905
- 00:38:14,074 --> 00:38:18,207
- working with cannabis,
- which is unheard of today.
- 906
- 00:38:18,208 --> 00:38:23,169
- MEIRI: When you put cannabis
- extract, or THC and CBD,
- 907
- 00:38:23,170 --> 00:38:25,650
- which are the main cannabinoids
- in the extract,
- 908
- 00:38:25,651 --> 00:38:29,610
- it can really kill the cancer
- in a way we call apoptosis.
- 909
- 00:38:29,611 --> 00:38:32,047
- Actually,
- the cells commit suicide.
- 910
- 00:38:32,048 --> 00:38:35,050
- Every cells in our body
- have, like, a checkpoint
- 911
- 00:38:35,051 --> 00:38:37,401
- that they are checking
- if there is a problem.
- 912
- 00:38:37,402 --> 00:38:40,186
- And if there is a problem,
- they will kill themselves.
- 913
- 00:38:40,187 --> 00:38:42,188
- They will commit suicide.
- 914
- 00:38:42,189 --> 00:38:45,496
- So what we see that cannabis
- is giving the cancer cells back
- 915
- 00:38:45,497 --> 00:38:47,324
- this ability that they lost.
- 916
- 00:38:47,325 --> 00:38:51,719
- In the first row, we can see
- colon cancer cell lines
- 917
- 00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:53,199
- growing in the black.
- 918
- 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,071
- Every dots like this,
- this is cells.
- 919
- 00:38:56,072 --> 00:39:00,075
- When we're adding cannabis
- strain number 3, CB3,
- 920
- 00:39:00,076 --> 00:39:02,904
- we see all the cells
- are dying here...
- 921
- 00:39:02,905 --> 00:39:05,385
- 100% of the cells dying here.
- 922
- 00:39:05,386 --> 00:39:08,345
- What is even more interesting
- in this image...
- 923
- 00:39:08,346 --> 00:39:13,001
- When we are growing colon cells
- which are not cancer cells,
- 924
- 00:39:13,002 --> 00:39:15,569
- and we're adding
- strain number 3,
- 925
- 00:39:15,570 --> 00:39:17,528
- nothing has happened, okay?
- 926
- 00:39:17,529 --> 00:39:19,704
- When we're adding
- the same strain
- 927
- 00:39:19,705 --> 00:39:22,533
- to the colon cancer cells,
- they died.
- 928
- 00:39:22,534 --> 00:39:25,405
- When we're adding it to the
- normal cells, they're not dying.
- 929
- 00:39:25,406 --> 00:39:26,885
- It's not affecting them.
- 930
- 00:39:26,886 --> 00:39:29,540
- The same thing
- with strain number 4.
- 931
- 00:39:29,541 --> 00:39:32,020
- In this image,
- it's very important
- 932
- 00:39:32,021 --> 00:39:35,110
- we see we're adding
- strain number 3 and 4
- 933
- 00:39:35,111 --> 00:39:38,853
- that kill the colon cancer
- and the breast cancer.
- 934
- 00:39:38,854 --> 00:39:41,203
- Here, it's not affecting
- the prostate cancer.
- 935
- 00:39:41,204 --> 00:39:44,206
- So it's very important
- to understand
- 936
- 00:39:44,207 --> 00:39:47,558
- which materials we have
- in these strains,
- 937
- 00:39:47,559 --> 00:39:51,257
- what are the pattern of
- cannabinoids interrupting there,
- 938
- 00:39:51,258 --> 00:39:54,739
- and why its affecting one cancer
- and not the other.
- 939
- 00:39:54,740 --> 00:39:57,568
- ♪♪
- 940
- 00:39:57,569 --> 00:40:00,397
- GUZMAN: We've been in the field
- of cannabis for about 20 years.
- 941
- 00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:04,096
- SANCHEZ: We started to do
- experiments with cancer cells,
- 942
- 00:40:04,097 --> 00:40:06,577
- and we were expecting
- other results.
- 943
- 00:40:06,578 --> 00:40:08,405
- We were doing metabolic studies,
- 944
- 00:40:08,406 --> 00:40:12,017
- and what we saw was something
- completely unexpected.
- 945
- 00:40:12,018 --> 00:40:14,280
- We were killing cancer cells.
- 946
- 00:40:14,281 --> 00:40:16,456
- So, these are
- one of the first experiments
- 947
- 00:40:16,457 --> 00:40:18,632
- we performed with animals.
- 948
- 00:40:18,633 --> 00:40:20,591
- We treated
- immune-deficient mice.
- 949
- 00:40:20,592 --> 00:40:23,420
- So, we injected glioblastoma
- 950
- 00:40:23,421 --> 00:40:25,944
- human cells underneath the skin,
- 951
- 00:40:25,945 --> 00:40:27,859
- and we generated these tumors.
- 952
- 00:40:27,860 --> 00:40:31,645
- And half of the animals
- were treated with cannabinoids,
- 953
- 00:40:31,646 --> 00:40:33,430
- in this case with THC,
- 954
- 00:40:33,431 --> 00:40:36,607
- and the other half received
- no cannabinoid treatment.
- 955
- 00:40:36,608 --> 00:40:38,130
- The tumors of these animals
- 956
- 00:40:38,131 --> 00:40:40,262
- that were not treated
- with cannabinoids
- 957
- 00:40:40,263 --> 00:40:44,005
- are way bigger
- than these other tumors.
- 958
- 00:40:44,006 --> 00:40:48,357
- More recently, we have been
- working on breast cancer.
- 959
- 00:40:48,358 --> 00:40:52,100
- And here we represent
- tumor volume,
- 960
- 00:40:52,101 --> 00:40:53,885
- how big the tumors are,
- 961
- 00:40:53,886 --> 00:40:55,800
- as time passes.
- 962
- 00:40:55,801 --> 00:40:57,410
- And this is how tumors
- 963
- 00:40:57,411 --> 00:41:00,152
- that are not treated
- with cannabinoids behave.
- 964
- 00:41:00,153 --> 00:41:03,329
- They grew. And this is
- the THC-treated population.
- 965
- 00:41:03,330 --> 00:41:06,158
- As you can see, they have less
- metastasis in the lungs,
- 966
- 00:41:06,159 --> 00:41:10,641
- and they have less tumors per
- animal than the control group.
- 967
- 00:41:10,642 --> 00:41:12,164
- So it works pretty well.
- 968
- 00:41:12,165 --> 00:41:14,122
- We are also realistic,
- and we know
- 969
- 00:41:14,123 --> 00:41:17,430
- that there are many therapies
- that have worked finely in mice,
- 970
- 00:41:17,431 --> 00:41:20,302
- and then they fail
- when they go to humans.
- 971
- 00:41:20,303 --> 00:41:23,654
- Of course, we need robust
- clinical trials to get to know,
- 972
- 00:41:23,655 --> 00:41:25,264
- finally, at last,
- 973
- 00:41:25,265 --> 00:41:27,832
- whether cannabinoids can be
- or not on a tumor
- 974
- 00:41:27,833 --> 00:41:32,576
- against imprecise patients
- or populations.
- 975
- 00:41:32,577 --> 00:41:35,361
- TRACY: Good morning, Sophie.
- 976
- 00:41:35,362 --> 00:41:37,232
- Hi, my love.
- 977
- 00:41:37,233 --> 00:41:38,973
- Want to turn that light on,
- honey?
- 978
- 00:41:38,974 --> 00:41:40,671
- Oh, big stretch.
- 979
- 00:41:40,672 --> 00:41:42,107
- Good morning, honey.
- 980
- 00:41:42,108 --> 00:41:44,370
- TRACY: So, today is the big day.
- 981
- 00:41:44,371 --> 00:41:46,111
- Today is the first scans
- that we're gonna be getting
- 982
- 00:41:46,112 --> 00:41:49,724
- to see if what we're doing
- is working.
- 983
- 00:41:53,293 --> 00:41:55,642
- JOSH: You're gonna get
- a nice nap, Sophie.
- 984
- 00:41:55,643 --> 00:41:58,166
- TRACY: Yeah, baby doll.
- You're gonna get to go to sleep really soon.
- 985
- 00:41:58,167 --> 00:42:01,561
- JOSH: You're gonna get a nice,
- little nap, baby girl. Hi.
- 986
- 00:42:01,562 --> 00:42:03,171
- - WOMAN: Mixed in with this?
- - WOMAN #2: No, no, no.
- 987
- 00:42:03,172 --> 00:42:05,609
- Just, like, on his foot,
- like three little pushes,
- 988
- 00:42:05,610 --> 00:42:09,395
- and then following that up with,
- which this is 30 units.
- 989
- 00:42:09,396 --> 00:42:12,311
- TRACY: So, we're headed
- home from scan day.
- 990
- 00:42:12,312 --> 00:42:15,357
- - [Fussing]
- - Sophie is very unhappy.
- 991
- 00:42:15,358 --> 00:42:18,143
- The anesthesia's making her
- really super cranky,
- 992
- 00:42:18,144 --> 00:42:20,928
- - and she's tired.
- - [Fussing]
- 993
- 00:42:20,929 --> 00:42:22,713
- The radiologist said
- that she would read them
- 994
- 00:42:22,714 --> 00:42:24,497
- by the end of the day today.
- 995
- 00:42:24,498 --> 00:42:27,240
- So we're hoping to get
- information pretty quickly.
- 996
- 00:42:29,416 --> 00:42:32,287
- Hello?
- 997
- 00:42:32,288 --> 00:42:34,420
- Hi. Hold on. I'm trying
- to get it on speakerphone.
- 998
- 00:42:34,421 --> 00:42:36,291
- - Can you hear me?
- - RADIOLOGIST: Oh, okay.
- 999
- 00:42:36,292 --> 00:42:38,076
- - Hi, guys. Yeah.
- - JOSH: Hi.
- 1000
- 00:42:38,077 --> 00:42:39,512
- RADIOLOGIST: So, I'm not sure
- if you got a chance
- 1001
- 00:42:39,513 --> 00:42:41,122
- to glance at the MRI.
- 1002
- 00:42:41,123 --> 00:42:42,863
- Unfortunately, it does look
- a little worse
- 1003
- 00:42:42,864 --> 00:42:45,039
- than it did back in June.
- 1004
- 00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:47,259
- TRACY: So, that means
- we got to start chemo ASAP.
- 1005
- 00:42:47,260 --> 00:42:49,914
- RADIOLOGIST: I think our trajectory
- is, unfortunately, chemo.
- 1006
- 00:42:49,915 --> 00:42:51,524
- TRACY: [Crying]
- So, when do we have to start?
- 1007
- 00:42:51,525 --> 00:42:53,221
- RADIOLOGIST: So, I think
- we can try this week,
- 1008
- 00:42:53,222 --> 00:42:54,658
- and then we can spend
- some time in the office
- 1009
- 00:42:54,659 --> 00:42:56,094
- and go over everything again.
- 1010
- 00:42:56,095 --> 00:42:59,750
- [Tracy sobbing]
- 1011
- 00:42:59,751 --> 00:43:01,490
- Fuck!
- [Cellphone beeps]
- 1012
- 00:43:01,491 --> 00:43:03,492
- [Continues sobbing]
- 1013
- 00:43:03,493 --> 00:43:07,279
- ♪♪
- 1014
- 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,890
- It's not smaller.
- It's not stable.
- 1015
- 00:43:09,891 --> 00:43:13,633
- And that means chemo...
- 1016
- 00:43:13,634 --> 00:43:15,374
- which is just...
- It's, like, really, really,
- 1017
- 00:43:15,375 --> 00:43:18,899
- really hard to imagine
- what that's gonna be like.
- 1018
- 00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:21,989
- ♪♪
- 1019
- 00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:23,643
- GORDON: Here's the good news.
- 1020
- 00:43:23,644 --> 00:43:28,126
- We're very, very far away
- from where we want to be.
- 1021
- 00:43:28,127 --> 00:43:31,477
- It's not like we had her
- on this really high dose,
- 1022
- 00:43:31,478 --> 00:43:33,087
- - and it didn't work.
- - TRACY: Right.
- 1023
- 00:43:33,088 --> 00:43:34,741
- GORDON: We're gonna have
- to play around with it
- 1024
- 00:43:34,742 --> 00:43:37,962
- till we find how Sophie's
- most comfortable with it.
- 1025
- 00:43:37,963 --> 00:43:39,616
- TRACY: We're 100%
- gonna keep using
- 1026
- 00:43:39,617 --> 00:43:41,487
- the cannabis moving forward.
- 1027
- 00:43:41,488 --> 00:43:44,229
- You know, now we're gonna
- increase her,
- 1028
- 00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:47,232
- not only just because
- I believe it will work
- 1029
- 00:43:47,233 --> 00:43:49,190
- alongside the chemo,
- 1030
- 00:43:49,191 --> 00:43:52,977
- but it will also counteract
- the side effects of the chemo.
- 1031
- 00:43:52,978 --> 00:43:55,153
- I don't think that cannabis
- has failed us.
- 1032
- 00:43:55,154 --> 00:43:58,635
- I think that we don't
- have her dose right.
- 1033
- 00:43:58,636 --> 00:43:59,940
- We're in uncharted waters.
- 1034
- 00:43:59,941 --> 00:44:01,768
- We're lab rats.
- 1035
- 00:44:01,769 --> 00:44:05,991
- ♪♪
- 1036
- 00:44:07,601 --> 00:44:09,689
- - SMITH: You must be Mara.
- - I am Mara.
- 1037
- 00:44:09,690 --> 00:44:11,865
- - Hello, Angela.
- - Thank you for coming.
- 1038
- 00:44:11,866 --> 00:44:13,693
- Oh, my pleasure!
- 1039
- 00:44:13,694 --> 00:44:15,129
- Nice to meet you in person.
- 1040
- 00:44:15,130 --> 00:44:16,914
- - Yeah.
- - GORDON: Doctors will call us...
- 1041
- 00:44:16,915 --> 00:44:20,091
- We had one doctor that
- called me a cannabis doula.
- 1042
- 00:44:20,092 --> 00:44:21,832
- - [Laughs]
- - You know, and, like,
- 1043
- 00:44:21,833 --> 00:44:25,401
- I think Jeff called me,
- like, a cannabis midwife.
- 1044
- 00:44:28,927 --> 00:44:30,797
- Oh, wow.
- SMITH: Take a smell.
- 1045
- 00:44:30,798 --> 00:44:32,843
- GORDON: Oh, I don't even...
- I just... can just see it,
- 1046
- 00:44:32,844 --> 00:44:34,583
- first of all, the thinness.
- 1047
- 00:44:34,584 --> 00:44:36,803
- SMITH: They did say
- you have to let it breathe.
- 1048
- 00:44:36,804 --> 00:44:38,283
- GORDON: Who said?
- 1049
- 00:44:38,284 --> 00:44:40,067
- SMITH: The person
- that I bought it from.
- 1050
- 00:44:40,068 --> 00:44:42,504
- This is alcohol. This is just
- pure alcohol in here
- 1051
- 00:44:42,505 --> 00:44:47,205
- with a little bit
- of cannabis diluted in it.
- 1052
- 00:44:47,206 --> 00:44:49,033
- Okay, here's what I brought.
- 1053
- 00:44:49,034 --> 00:44:51,992
- For example,
- this is the high-THC.
- 1054
- 00:44:51,993 --> 00:44:53,559
- - SMITH: Right.
- - GORDON: This is the one
- 1055
- 00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:54,865
- - that Stewart made.
- - SMITH: Is that labeled?
- 1056
- 00:44:54,866 --> 00:44:57,389
- GORDON: Everything's labeled.
- 1057
- 00:44:57,390 --> 00:45:00,044
- Can you put your feet down
- or no? No?
- 1058
- 00:45:00,045 --> 00:45:02,220
- Where's the pain the most?
- 1059
- 00:45:02,221 --> 00:45:04,222
- In my stomach,
- 1060
- 00:45:04,223 --> 00:45:06,006
- - on my head.
- - In your head?
- 1061
- 00:45:06,007 --> 00:45:08,400
- This oil that we made
- is a little... is different.
- 1062
- 00:45:08,401 --> 00:45:09,880
- - It's a little different.
- - Mm-hmm.
- 1063
- 00:45:09,881 --> 00:45:11,751
- - It's stronger.
- - Mm-hmm.
- 1064
- 00:45:11,752 --> 00:45:14,319
- And it doesn't have
- all that alcohol in it.
- 1065
- 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,582
- That alcohol could be
- burning your stomach, too.
- 1066
- 00:45:16,583 --> 00:45:18,062
- Mm-hmm.
- 1067
- 00:45:18,063 --> 00:45:20,325
- GORDON: So, any
- questions you have?
- 1068
- 00:45:20,326 --> 00:45:23,197
- Any concerns? Any anything?
- 1069
- 00:45:23,198 --> 00:45:26,026
- But I want to know
- all the adjectives,
- 1070
- 00:45:26,027 --> 00:45:28,115
- all the adverbs
- how you're feeling...
- 1071
- 00:45:28,116 --> 00:45:31,902
- Any anything... anything
- that doesn't seem right
- 1072
- 00:45:31,903 --> 00:45:33,947
- or whatever.
- 1073
- 00:45:33,948 --> 00:45:37,603
- And if this strain doesn't work
- it, we'll try another strain.
- 1074
- 00:45:37,604 --> 00:45:39,953
- - Mm-hmm.
- - There's 4,500 strains,
- 1075
- 00:45:39,954 --> 00:45:41,563
- and we'll find one that helps.
- 1076
- 00:45:41,564 --> 00:45:43,478
- Wow.
- 1077
- 00:45:43,479 --> 00:45:45,916
- GORDON: We have probably
- the most paperwork of anyone
- 1078
- 00:45:45,917 --> 00:45:48,048
- I know, of any collective.
- 1079
- 00:45:48,049 --> 00:45:51,269
- We tell people right off the bat
- we're collecting their data.
- 1080
- 00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:55,012
- We are expecting to use the data
- 1081
- 00:45:55,013 --> 00:45:58,363
- to help find solutions
- for diseases
- 1082
- 00:45:58,364 --> 00:46:02,628
- and for... you know, to help
- to use it for other people.
- 1083
- 00:46:02,629 --> 00:46:08,069
- It's all just experimentation
- at this point.
- 1084
- 00:46:13,422 --> 00:46:15,554
- - Okay.
- - ANGELA P.: All right.
- 1085
- 00:46:15,555 --> 00:46:17,034
- Is that better?
- 1086
- 00:46:17,035 --> 00:46:18,687
- GORDON: You've had a lot
- on your plate
- 1087
- 00:46:18,688 --> 00:46:21,386
- - over the last couple of weeks.
- - Yes, ma'am.
- 1088
- 00:46:21,387 --> 00:46:23,780
- GORDON: I'm here to answer
- any questions you have
- 1089
- 00:46:23,781 --> 00:46:26,260
- and walk you through
- what we're gonna do.
- 1090
- 00:46:26,261 --> 00:46:29,263
- One of the syringes
- I sent you was Hindu Kush.
- 1091
- 00:46:29,264 --> 00:46:30,351
- - Okay.
- - GORDON: And the other one
- 1092
- 00:46:30,352 --> 00:46:32,745
- is something called Yummy.
- 1093
- 00:46:32,746 --> 00:46:35,182
- Okay, I see now.
- 1094
- 00:46:35,183 --> 00:46:39,796
- And the Yummy is
- a two-to-one CBD to THC.
- 1095
- 00:46:39,797 --> 00:46:42,320
- So, you said that the Yummy
- is higher in CBD.
- 1096
- 00:46:42,321 --> 00:46:43,669
- - Am I hearing you right?
- - GORDON: Yes.
- 1097
- 00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:44,931
- Okay.
- 1098
- 00:46:44,932 --> 00:46:47,455
- The Hindu Kush is a high THC.
- 1099
- 00:46:47,456 --> 00:46:50,589
- And I'm not sure
- which one is gonna do better.
- 1100
- 00:46:50,590 --> 00:46:54,288
- After an hour, maybe two hours,
- just see how he does.
- 1101
- 00:46:54,289 --> 00:46:56,116
- I mean, you're his mom and dad.
- 1102
- 00:46:56,117 --> 00:46:57,596
- - You guys are...
- - Right.
- 1103
- 00:46:57,597 --> 00:46:59,467
- - You know your son.
- - Right.
- 1104
- 00:46:59,468 --> 00:47:01,513
- You don't ever have to worry
- about him taking too much,
- 1105
- 00:47:01,514 --> 00:47:04,429
- and, in a matter of hours,
- it'll be over.
- 1106
- 00:47:04,430 --> 00:47:06,126
- - Okay.
- - There's nothing that you do
- 1107
- 00:47:06,127 --> 00:47:07,606
- to screw it up other than
- 1108
- 00:47:07,607 --> 00:47:09,173
- - to not give him his medicine.
- - Okay.
- 1109
- 00:47:09,174 --> 00:47:11,262
- Okay, that's what
- I wanted to hear.
- 1110
- 00:47:11,263 --> 00:47:13,438
- - That makes me feel better.
- - Okay.
- 1111
- 00:47:13,439 --> 00:47:15,570
- - You cannot hurt him.
- - Yes.
- 1112
- 00:47:15,571 --> 00:47:17,877
- He would have to probably take
- 1113
- 00:47:17,878 --> 00:47:21,359
- a pound of oil at once.
- 1114
- 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:24,623
- The body cannot overdose
- on cannabis.
- 1115
- 00:47:24,624 --> 00:47:26,843
- Little bit.
- That's all you got to take.
- 1116
- 00:47:26,844 --> 00:47:29,019
- - Do I put it on his tongue?
- - ANGELA P.: Under his tongue.
- 1117
- 00:47:29,020 --> 00:47:32,022
- Under your tongue.
- 1118
- 00:47:32,023 --> 00:47:35,068
- Wait, you... Just lick it off.
- Lick it off. Lick it off.
- 1119
- 00:47:35,069 --> 00:47:37,592
- Lick it off.
- 1120
- 00:47:37,593 --> 00:47:39,768
- How'd that taste?
- 1121
- 00:47:39,769 --> 00:47:41,205
- A little good.
- 1122
- 00:47:41,206 --> 00:47:43,555
- - Okay.
- - Okay. A little good. Yeah.
- 1123
- 00:47:43,556 --> 00:47:45,818
- ANGELA P.: All right.
- Good job, A.J.
- 1124
- 00:47:45,819 --> 00:47:47,951
- - Go ahead and have some fun.
- - Let's have some fun.
- 1125
- 00:47:47,952 --> 00:47:49,909
- [Both laugh]
- Hey!
- 1126
- 00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:51,780
- ADRIAN: Dad ready to
- have some fun, too.
- 1127
- 00:47:51,781 --> 00:47:53,218
- Okay!
- 1128
- 00:47:56,047 --> 00:47:58,918
- We just so happened to have
- a couple of salsa bottles,
- 1129
- 00:47:58,919 --> 00:48:01,748
- and so I threw
- the salsa away, and...
- 1130
- 00:48:03,489 --> 00:48:07,013
- Well, we ate some of it,
- but I commandeered the jars.
- 1131
- 00:48:07,014 --> 00:48:09,581
- [Both laugh]
- 1132
- 00:48:09,582 --> 00:48:12,584
- And the Tostitos,
- I put the THC oil in
- 1133
- 00:48:12,585 --> 00:48:14,978
- because I thought "T" and "T."
- 1134
- 00:48:14,979 --> 00:48:17,415
- And then there wasn't any
- cannabis that began with an "M."
- 1135
- 00:48:17,416 --> 00:48:19,199
- Oh, I suppose I should have said
- "marijuana," shouldn't I?
- 1136
- 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,722
- But the CBD's in the other one.
- 1137
- 00:48:20,723 --> 00:48:22,507
- But I actually did
- label them wrongly.
- 1138
- 00:48:22,508 --> 00:48:24,248
- Anyway, we've been playing
- with them a little bit,
- 1139
- 00:48:24,249 --> 00:48:26,076
- because we're trying
- to get him to eat,
- 1140
- 00:48:26,077 --> 00:48:28,078
- and THC promotes appetite,
- 1141
- 00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:31,429
- and CBD stops your appetite.
- 1142
- 00:48:31,430 --> 00:48:33,822
- So we've been messing
- with the proportions.
- 1143
- 00:48:33,823 --> 00:48:36,651
- But we've kind of stuck
- to two to three now.
- 1144
- 00:48:36,652 --> 00:48:39,611
- Three THC, two CBD.
- [Chuckles]
- 1145
- 00:48:39,612 --> 00:48:42,962
- You woke up giggling
- yesterday morning, didn't you?
- 1146
- 00:48:42,963 --> 00:48:45,138
- And Mara was very pleased.
- 1147
- 00:48:45,139 --> 00:48:47,401
- [Chuckles]
- 1148
- 00:48:47,402 --> 00:48:49,099
- And so how do you feel now?
- 1149
- 00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:50,796
- - Good.
- - You look good.
- 1150
- 00:48:50,797 --> 00:48:52,450
- Mm-hmm.
- 1151
- 00:48:52,451 --> 00:48:53,930
- - Yeah.
- - Mm-hmm.
- 1152
- 00:48:53,931 --> 00:48:56,628
- Right on. Well, that's good.
- 1153
- 00:48:56,629 --> 00:48:59,587
- Chico, I just want to see how
- it feels, okay, if it's ready.
- 1154
- 00:48:59,588 --> 00:49:01,285
- I left a little extra time
- on it.
- 1155
- 00:49:01,286 --> 00:49:03,200
- Be right back.
- I'm gonna get you a mask, okay?
- 1156
- 00:49:03,201 --> 00:49:04,723
- - Where's your ear, Chico?
- - Here.
- 1157
- 00:49:04,724 --> 00:49:07,682
- Missing.
- 1158
- 00:49:07,683 --> 00:49:09,510
- There we go.
- 1159
- 00:49:09,511 --> 00:49:11,469
- SMITH: I was gonna say
- he likes digging his nails in.
- 1160
- 00:49:11,470 --> 00:49:14,472
- Squeeze me or dig into me
- as hard as you want to.
- 1161
- 00:49:14,473 --> 00:49:16,213
- Okay, I just want to find it.
- 1162
- 00:49:16,214 --> 00:49:17,301
- I know.
- 1163
- 00:49:17,302 --> 00:49:19,825
- GORDON: One, two, three.
- 1164
- 00:49:19,826 --> 00:49:21,392
- There you go. Perfect.
- 1165
- 00:49:21,393 --> 00:49:23,829
- Perfect, perfect, perfect.
- There you go.
- 1166
- 00:49:23,830 --> 00:49:25,657
- - There you go. There you go.
- - It's done. It's already done.
- 1167
- 00:49:25,658 --> 00:49:28,312
- - GORDON: It's over.
- - [Crying]
- 1168
- 00:49:28,313 --> 00:49:30,009
- NURSE: It's all done.
- 1169
- 00:49:30,010 --> 00:49:32,185
- I'm done. I'm done.
- 1170
- 00:49:32,186 --> 00:49:34,231
- That's it. It's all over.
- 1171
- 00:49:34,232 --> 00:49:35,841
- You did fantastic.
- 1172
- 00:49:35,842 --> 00:49:38,583
- - [Coughs]
- - It's all done. It's all done.
- 1173
- 00:49:38,584 --> 00:49:40,889
- Breathe, Chico. It's all done.
- 1174
- 00:49:40,890 --> 00:49:42,456
- [Crying]
- 1175
- 00:49:42,457 --> 00:49:44,503
- - SMITH: See?
- - GORDON: Blow.
- 1176
- 00:49:47,419 --> 00:49:49,289
- Whole bag of...
- 1177
- 00:49:49,290 --> 00:49:52,945
- Chico had a really horrible,
- harsh chemotherapy regime.
- 1178
- 00:49:52,946 --> 00:49:54,338
- It was very punishing,
- 1179
- 00:49:54,339 --> 00:49:57,689
- and he had 28
- daily radiation sessions
- 1180
- 00:49:57,690 --> 00:49:59,821
- over, like, a five-
- or six-week period.
- 1181
- 00:49:59,822 --> 00:50:04,130
- He was probably in hospital more
- days than he wasn't in hospital.
- 1182
- 00:50:04,131 --> 00:50:05,784
- Luckily, we're in a legal state.
- 1183
- 00:50:05,785 --> 00:50:08,743
- It would have caused way,
- way more stress to try
- 1184
- 00:50:08,744 --> 00:50:11,398
- and do this illegally and behind
- the backs of the doctors.
- 1185
- 00:50:11,399 --> 00:50:13,357
- At least everything
- was above-board.
- 1186
- 00:50:13,358 --> 00:50:14,967
- Everything was up-front.
- 1187
- 00:50:14,968 --> 00:50:17,274
- I just find it absolutely
- staggering to accept
- 1188
- 00:50:17,275 --> 00:50:19,189
- that in this day and age,
- 1189
- 00:50:19,190 --> 00:50:22,714
- with the billions of dollars
- that's spent on cancer research,
- 1190
- 00:50:22,715 --> 00:50:24,324
- the medicine
- that we were relying on
- 1191
- 00:50:24,325 --> 00:50:26,196
- is made in somebody's kitchen.
- 1192
- 00:50:26,197 --> 00:50:27,675
- NURSE: All good?
- 1193
- 00:50:27,676 --> 00:50:30,635
- GORDON: I just want
- to get you home
- 1194
- 00:50:30,636 --> 00:50:35,248
- and get you back,
- you know, normal.
- 1195
- 00:50:35,249 --> 00:50:37,163
- - Mm-hmm.
- - Mm. [Chuckles]
- 1196
- 00:50:37,164 --> 00:50:40,862
- ♪♪
- 1197
- 00:50:40,863 --> 00:50:42,995
- TRACY: Ball.
- 1198
- 00:50:42,996 --> 00:50:44,301
- Book.
- 1199
- 00:50:44,302 --> 00:50:46,129
- So, I've already
- started the dose.
- 1200
- 00:50:46,130 --> 00:50:47,739
- She gets a much larger dose now.
- 1201
- 00:50:47,740 --> 00:50:50,524
- She's almost at a gram a day,
- 1202
- 00:50:50,525 --> 00:50:53,353
- a one-to-one ratio
- of CBD to THC.
- 1203
- 00:50:53,354 --> 00:50:55,921
- So we got her up
- to the cancer-killing dose.
- 1204
- 00:50:55,922 --> 00:50:57,662
- She's completely
- acclimated to it,
- 1205
- 00:50:57,663 --> 00:51:00,099
- has no side effects,
- no sleepiness.
- 1206
- 00:51:00,100 --> 00:51:03,407
- You would never know
- she's taken anything.
- 1207
- 00:51:03,408 --> 00:51:05,365
- Baby... Ohh,
- you can do it, honey!
- 1208
- 00:51:05,366 --> 00:51:07,237
- - Yeah, you got it!
- - TRACY: Come see Mama!
- 1209
- 00:51:07,238 --> 00:51:08,847
- - You got it!
- - TRACY: Yeah!
- 1210
- 00:51:08,848 --> 00:51:10,544
- Whoo!
- 1211
- 00:51:10,545 --> 00:51:13,678
- Oh! Good job, honey!
- 1212
- 00:51:13,679 --> 00:51:15,680
- You okay, pumpkin pie?
- 1213
- 00:51:15,681 --> 00:51:17,682
- We went in, and they said,
- you know, "This tumor's had
- 1214
- 00:51:17,683 --> 00:51:20,119
- such a growth spurt
- that we need to do a biopsy,
- 1215
- 00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:23,818
- and we need to make sure that
- this isn't a high-grade glioma."
- 1216
- 00:51:23,819 --> 00:51:26,865
- So then we had to schedule
- brain surgery.
- 1217
- 00:51:26,866 --> 00:51:29,389
- And luckily,
- all the tissue samples
- 1218
- 00:51:29,390 --> 00:51:31,826
- came back low-grade.
- 1219
- 00:51:31,827 --> 00:51:34,612
- She hasn't had
- the best day today.
- 1220
- 00:51:34,613 --> 00:51:36,570
- We're gonna have to do
- some I.V. fluids,
- 1221
- 00:51:36,571 --> 00:51:39,269
- and she's not drinking
- a whole lot,
- 1222
- 00:51:39,270 --> 00:51:41,836
- which is all part of the chemo.
- We're on day five.
- 1223
- 00:51:41,837 --> 00:51:43,838
- It's kind of weird
- that it's so delayed,
- 1224
- 00:51:43,839 --> 00:51:48,365
- but she's not been doing
- too bad overall.
- 1225
- 00:51:48,366 --> 00:51:50,193
- Here, baby. Open. [Gasps]
- 1226
- 00:51:50,194 --> 00:51:51,455
- Mmm. Big bite.
- 1227
- 00:51:51,456 --> 00:51:53,544
- Yay! Good girl!
- 1228
- 00:51:53,545 --> 00:51:54,893
- There she goes!
- 1229
- 00:51:54,894 --> 00:51:58,070
- You ready for some
- amazing results?
- 1230
- 00:51:58,071 --> 00:52:01,987
- This'll be the second scan
- since we started chemo
- 1231
- 00:52:01,988 --> 00:52:06,296
- and have been
- at high doses of cannabis.
- 1232
- 00:52:06,297 --> 00:52:08,472
- So now we just wait.
- 1233
- 00:52:08,473 --> 00:52:10,735
- We wait for the good news,
- don't we, baby?
- 1234
- 00:52:10,736 --> 00:52:12,954
- [Fussing hoarsely]
- 1235
- 00:52:12,955 --> 00:52:16,306
- She's hoarse from them putting
- the tube down her throat.
- 1236
- 00:52:16,307 --> 00:52:19,657
- [Laughing]
- We just got the call!
- 1237
- 00:52:19,658 --> 00:52:21,267
- There is some cell death!
- 1238
- 00:52:21,268 --> 00:52:23,269
- The tumor is actually dying
- in certain areas.
- 1239
- 00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:26,751
- There's no new growth.
- And... And... It's...
- 1240
- 00:52:26,752 --> 00:52:28,927
- They said that they would like
- to be able to take credit
- 1241
- 00:52:28,928 --> 00:52:31,973
- for it all, but they just
- don't know if they can.
- 1242
- 00:52:31,974 --> 00:52:33,888
- I'm just thrilled.
- 1243
- 00:52:33,889 --> 00:52:36,021
- This is the most amazing news
- we could have ever gotten.
- 1244
- 00:52:36,022 --> 00:52:38,066
- [Chuckling]
- 1245
- 00:52:38,067 --> 00:52:40,025
- [Josh sniffling]
- 1246
- 00:52:40,026 --> 00:52:43,202
- She's gonna be okay.
- She's gonna be okay!
- 1247
- 00:52:43,203 --> 00:52:46,858
- She's gonna be okay.
- She's gonna be okay. Oh, my God.
- 1248
- 00:52:46,859 --> 00:52:48,860
- I mean, we still have a battle
- ahead of us.
- 1249
- 00:52:48,861 --> 00:52:50,427
- We're still gonna
- have to do chemo,
- 1250
- 00:52:50,428 --> 00:52:53,299
- but I can actually see
- the future.
- 1251
- 00:52:53,300 --> 00:52:55,823
- [Voice breaking] I can see
- walking little Sophie down the aisle
- 1252
- 00:52:55,824 --> 00:53:00,698
- and... and, you know, taking her
- to her first dance recital
- 1253
- 00:53:00,699 --> 00:53:04,528
- and all those things
- that you want to do.
- 1254
- 00:53:04,529 --> 00:53:06,356
- It's a good feeling.
- 1255
- 00:53:06,357 --> 00:53:11,839
- ♪♪
- 1256
- 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:16,888
- ♪♪
- 1257
- 00:53:16,889 --> 00:53:20,674
- NURSE: It's 5 milligrams
- of Oxy, okay?
- 1258
- 00:53:20,675 --> 00:53:22,502
- SMITH: He was
- addicted to opiates.
- 1259
- 00:53:22,503 --> 00:53:25,244
- He had to have Dilaudid
- when he was in the hospital
- 1260
- 00:53:25,245 --> 00:53:26,680
- to manage the pain,
- 1261
- 00:53:26,681 --> 00:53:29,074
- and that created
- an opiate dependency.
- 1262
- 00:53:29,075 --> 00:53:32,251
- So they put him onto methadone
- to transition him off it.
- 1263
- 00:53:32,252 --> 00:53:34,253
- And I fought and fought
- and fought them
- 1264
- 00:53:34,254 --> 00:53:36,603
- putting him on methadone for
- months and months and months.
- 1265
- 00:53:36,604 --> 00:53:38,736
- Finally, I caved in.
- 1266
- 00:53:38,737 --> 00:53:41,347
- And I knew that if I just
- managed to get him home,
- 1267
- 00:53:41,348 --> 00:53:44,742
- I could have got him off
- the opiates with oxycodone
- 1268
- 00:53:44,743 --> 00:53:46,309
- and cannabis oil,
- 1269
- 00:53:46,310 --> 00:53:47,919
- 'cause I'd done it
- so many times before.
- 1270
- 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,400
- But I caved in and agreed
- to put him on methadone,
- 1271
- 00:53:50,401 --> 00:53:51,531
- and it was a nightmare.
- 1272
- 00:53:51,532 --> 00:53:53,098
- WOMAN: Your mom's here.
- 1273
- 00:53:53,099 --> 00:53:54,665
- - We're taking a pause right now.
- - [Sobbing]
- 1274
- 00:53:54,666 --> 00:53:56,493
- We're taking a break.
- You're okay.
- 1275
- 00:53:56,494 --> 00:53:59,278
- SMITH: Chico.
- Let me get some paper.
- 1276
- 00:53:59,279 --> 00:54:00,584
- Yeah?
- 1277
- 00:54:00,585 --> 00:54:02,194
- [Chico sobs]
- 1278
- 00:54:02,195 --> 00:54:04,414
- Would you let a 1st
- or a 2nd grader
- 1279
- 00:54:04,415 --> 00:54:07,112
- or any child use
- medical marijuana?
- 1280
- 00:54:07,113 --> 00:54:09,854
- MAN: We do know in people
- who start before the age of 15
- 1281
- 00:54:09,855 --> 00:54:11,856
- and keep doing it
- throughout their life,
- 1282
- 00:54:11,857 --> 00:54:14,772
- even sporadically, tend to have
- an impact later on in life.
- 1283
- 00:54:14,773 --> 00:54:16,904
- They lose about 8 I.Q. points
- on average.
- 1284
- 00:54:16,905 --> 00:54:18,471
- Again, these are hard studies
- to come by.
- 1285
- 00:54:18,472 --> 00:54:20,256
- That was a study
- out of the Netherlands.
- 1286
- 00:54:20,257 --> 00:54:22,693
- SMITH: How does methadone
- affect the developing brain?
- 1287
- 00:54:22,694 --> 00:54:24,825
- How does Dilaudid affect
- the developing brain?
- 1288
- 00:54:24,826 --> 00:54:27,263
- How do these heavy-duty opiates
- 1289
- 00:54:27,264 --> 00:54:30,004
- that they prescribe willy-nilly
- to children...
- 1290
- 00:54:30,005 --> 00:54:32,355
- Nobody looks at the effects
- of those types of medicines
- 1291
- 00:54:32,356 --> 00:54:35,401
- on the developing brain,
- and I can tell you for sure
- 1292
- 00:54:35,402 --> 00:54:37,447
- that a kid who's on methadone
- 1293
- 00:54:37,448 --> 00:54:39,405
- is way, way lower
- 1294
- 00:54:39,406 --> 00:54:42,800
- in terms of their mental
- capacity and functioning.
- 1295
- 00:54:42,801 --> 00:54:44,584
- And the best thing we ever did
- 1296
- 00:54:44,585 --> 00:54:47,631
- was get Chico weaned off
- methadone as fast as we could,
- 1297
- 00:54:47,632 --> 00:54:49,415
- and we did that
- with the help of the oil.
- 1298
- 00:54:49,416 --> 00:54:52,810
- We titrated the methadone down
- as the oil came up.
- 1299
- 00:54:52,811 --> 00:54:55,552
- And we saw
- his mental capacity return
- 1300
- 00:54:55,553 --> 00:54:57,336
- as the methadone went away,
- 1301
- 00:54:57,337 --> 00:54:59,295
- even though the cannabis oil
- was coming up.
- 1302
- 00:54:59,296 --> 00:55:02,341
- That's why I'm not really
- taking very seriously
- 1303
- 00:55:02,342 --> 00:55:05,823
- the I.Q.-point argument.
- But even if it's true,
- 1304
- 00:55:05,824 --> 00:55:08,608
- frankly,
- it's a small price to pay.
- 1305
- 00:55:08,609 --> 00:55:12,264
- ♪♪
- 1306
- 00:55:12,265 --> 00:55:16,355
- CHRIS: When we started the oil,
- it was right after surgery.
- 1307
- 00:55:16,356 --> 00:55:18,836
- He was in so much pain.
- 1308
- 00:55:18,837 --> 00:55:22,405
- Every morning, she leaves
- at 5:30 in the morning.
- 1309
- 00:55:22,406 --> 00:55:23,667
- 5:30 in the morning.
- 1310
- 00:55:23,668 --> 00:55:24,972
- When he would wake up,
- 1311
- 00:55:24,973 --> 00:55:26,496
- he would be crying in bed,
- 1312
- 00:55:26,497 --> 00:55:28,280
- screaming for me.
- 1313
- 00:55:28,281 --> 00:55:29,716
- He was in so much pain,
- 1314
- 00:55:29,717 --> 00:55:32,240
- and I would give him
- two OxyContin
- 1315
- 00:55:32,241 --> 00:55:35,374
- at 6:00 in the morning.
- 1316
- 00:55:35,375 --> 00:55:39,335
- Two to three hours later,
- I would give him two narco.
- 1317
- 00:55:39,336 --> 00:55:42,686
- Two to three hours later,
- I would give him either Advil,
- 1318
- 00:55:42,687 --> 00:55:44,296
- Motrin, Excedrin,
- 1319
- 00:55:44,297 --> 00:55:47,212
- anything I could give him
- to get to that next span
- 1320
- 00:55:47,213 --> 00:55:49,693
- of giving him
- two more OxyContin.
- 1321
- 00:55:49,694 --> 00:55:52,783
- And then two more narco.
- And we were doing this
- 1322
- 00:55:52,784 --> 00:55:57,048
- around the clock
- the entire time.
- 1323
- 00:55:57,049 --> 00:56:00,225
- And he wasn't eating, and
- he was vomiting all the time.
- 1324
- 00:56:00,226 --> 00:56:02,880
- - Yes.
- - But you know what's amazing
- 1325
- 00:56:02,881 --> 00:56:05,273
- is, you know,
- when she brought us home,
- 1326
- 00:56:05,274 --> 00:56:08,407
- and she says
- it's a sesame-seed size...
- 1327
- 00:56:08,408 --> 00:56:10,583
- You know, half of...
- And you look at that.
- 1328
- 00:56:10,584 --> 00:56:12,977
- You look at what size that is.
- 1329
- 00:56:12,978 --> 00:56:15,022
- - CHRIS: It's nothing.
- - And I...
- 1330
- 00:56:15,023 --> 00:56:18,765
- I looked at him and said,
- "This isn't gonna work."
- 1331
- 00:56:18,766 --> 00:56:21,725
- You know, I felt like
- we wasted our money.
- 1332
- 00:56:21,726 --> 00:56:23,553
- Hi, Monkey.
- What are you doing?
- 1333
- 00:56:23,554 --> 00:56:25,555
- A.J. K.:
- Getting some orange juice.
- 1334
- 00:56:25,556 --> 00:56:29,907
- SHEILA: Within three days,
- he was off all the pain pills.
- 1335
- 00:56:29,908 --> 00:56:31,996
- - He was eating.
- - CHRIS: We... It was like...
- 1336
- 00:56:31,997 --> 00:56:34,477
- - SHEILA: Wow. Amazed.
- - CHRIS: It was like Monday
- 1337
- 00:56:34,478 --> 00:56:35,782
- - or Tuesday...
- - Amazing.
- 1338
- 00:56:35,783 --> 00:56:37,393
- CHRIS: ...when we started it.
- 1339
- 00:56:37,394 --> 00:56:40,874
- By Friday, he was taking
- one OxyContin all day,
- 1340
- 00:56:40,875 --> 00:56:44,574
- and it was just like,
- "Something's happening.
- 1341
- 00:56:44,575 --> 00:56:48,578
- I don't know what,
- but something's... It's good."
- 1342
- 00:56:48,579 --> 00:56:52,756
- There's so many people out there
- that could use this medicine
- 1343
- 00:56:52,757 --> 00:56:54,758
- and where it can
- improve their lives
- 1344
- 00:56:54,759 --> 00:56:57,804
- where they are so far off
- from having access.
- 1345
- 00:56:57,805 --> 00:56:59,632
- And in the meantime,
- they're just being fed
- 1346
- 00:56:59,633 --> 00:57:01,460
- a steady stream
- of pharmaceutical drugs.
- 1347
- 00:57:01,461 --> 00:57:03,419
- And year after year,
- 1348
- 00:57:03,420 --> 00:57:06,160
- we see the number of people
- dying from accidental overdose
- 1349
- 00:57:06,161 --> 00:57:08,902
- due to pharmaceutical drugs
- get higher and higher.
- 1350
- 00:57:08,903 --> 00:57:12,906
- It's remarkable when you look
- at this explosion
- 1351
- 00:57:12,907 --> 00:57:14,865
- of research studies coming out
- 1352
- 00:57:14,866 --> 00:57:19,870
- about the way in which
- marijuana is reducing
- 1353
- 00:57:19,871 --> 00:57:23,308
- the problems with opioids
- and other pharmaceuticals.
- 1354
- 00:57:23,309 --> 00:57:27,138
- GILD: 80% of prescription drugs
- are made from opiates,
- 1355
- 00:57:27,139 --> 00:57:30,228
- and I think, as the world
- learns and understands
- 1356
- 00:57:30,229 --> 00:57:33,100
- that it's addicted to heroin,
- to opiates,
- 1357
- 00:57:33,101 --> 00:57:37,757
- I think that the world once over
- will learn how to free itself.
- 1358
- 00:57:37,758 --> 00:57:39,803
- But right now, the science
- is being blocked,
- 1359
- 00:57:39,804 --> 00:57:42,196
- and it's being blocked
- by Big Pharma
- 1360
- 00:57:42,197 --> 00:57:45,330
- not wanting the science
- to succeed.
- 1361
- 00:57:45,331 --> 00:57:48,115
- JIM: In the big picture,
- the pharmaceutical industry,
- 1362
- 00:57:48,116 --> 00:57:50,944
- which controls
- the medical community...
- 1363
- 00:57:50,945 --> 00:57:52,642
- It's a big money-driven machine.
- 1364
- 00:57:52,643 --> 00:57:55,166
- You have these people.
- They're using morphine.
- 1365
- 00:57:55,167 --> 00:57:56,950
- They're using fentanyl,
- all these drugs
- 1366
- 00:57:56,951 --> 00:57:59,170
- that are respiratory depressants
- that, in themselves,
- 1367
- 00:57:59,171 --> 00:58:03,087
- can accidentally
- inherently kill you.
- 1368
- 00:58:03,088 --> 00:58:05,176
- But because it's prescribed
- by the hospital,
- 1369
- 00:58:05,177 --> 00:58:08,005
- because it originates from
- our pharmaceutical industry,
- 1370
- 00:58:08,006 --> 00:58:09,789
- it's accepted by society.
- 1371
- 00:58:09,790 --> 00:58:12,009
- And this has this reputation
- 1372
- 00:58:12,010 --> 00:58:15,012
- for recreational use,
- 1373
- 00:58:15,013 --> 00:58:17,971
- and it's, by technicality,
- a Schedule I narcotic.
- 1374
- 00:58:17,972 --> 00:58:20,147
- It's, you know, a little bit,
- like I said, infuriating
- 1375
- 00:58:20,148 --> 00:58:22,193
- because, you know, for us,
- 1376
- 00:58:22,194 --> 00:58:24,325
- we're using it to save
- our child's life.
- 1377
- 00:58:24,326 --> 00:58:28,025
- Okay, Cecilia, we got to take
- your black medicine, okay?
- 1378
- 00:58:28,026 --> 00:58:29,548
- CECILIA: Okay.
- 1379
- 00:58:29,549 --> 00:58:32,856
- And then get ready
- all my myself again.
- 1380
- 00:58:32,857 --> 00:58:34,292
- JACLYN: Yeah,
- that's a good idea.
- 1381
- 00:58:34,293 --> 00:58:36,860
- You don't have
- to get me ready anymore,
- 1382
- 00:58:36,861 --> 00:58:38,426
- because I'm a big girl.
- 1383
- 00:58:38,427 --> 00:58:41,952
- You don't have
- to get me ready anymore.
- 1384
- 00:58:41,953 --> 00:58:43,997
- JIM: So, this is Aunt Zelda's.
- 1385
- 00:58:43,998 --> 00:58:46,870
- We use a one-to-one ratio
- of THC to CBD,
- 1386
- 00:58:46,871 --> 00:58:49,525
- which is what
- most cancer patients use.
- 1387
- 00:58:49,526 --> 00:58:53,485
- When she was very sick,
- at her highest,
- 1388
- 00:58:53,486 --> 00:58:56,923
- we were at about
- $3,000 a month in oils.
- 1389
- 00:58:56,924 --> 00:58:58,751
- Now that we're down
- to a maintenance dose,
- 1390
- 00:58:58,752 --> 00:59:00,536
- it's roughly about
- $1,500 a month.
- 1391
- 00:59:00,537 --> 00:59:02,450
- JACLYN: More than our rent.
- [Laughter]
- 1392
- 00:59:02,451 --> 00:59:06,411
- So, I mean, literally,
- we sold bikes, we sold...
- 1393
- 00:59:06,412 --> 00:59:08,935
- - Everything.
- - ...just whatever we could.
- 1394
- 00:59:08,936 --> 00:59:13,026
- ♪♪
- 1395
- 00:59:13,027 --> 00:59:15,159
- JIM: You know, I was very
- maxed out at this point,
- 1396
- 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:16,943
- working as much overtime
- as I could.
- 1397
- 00:59:16,944 --> 00:59:18,771
- So I just kind of asked,
- 1398
- 00:59:18,772 --> 00:59:21,208
- "What do you guys do on the job
- when they get sick?
- 1399
- 00:59:21,209 --> 00:59:23,254
- Because we're doing something
- completely alternative.
- 1400
- 00:59:23,255 --> 00:59:25,386
- We're not using
- our insurance anymore."
- 1401
- 00:59:25,387 --> 00:59:27,040
- So, that next day,
- 1402
- 00:59:27,041 --> 00:59:28,999
- they got in touch
- with a charitable organization
- 1403
- 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,479
- called the Fire Family
- Foundation.
- 1404
- 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,091
- Up-front, they're willing to pay
- for a month of supplements,
- 1405
- 00:59:34,092 --> 00:59:36,267
- and I was a little apprehensive.
- 1406
- 00:59:36,268 --> 00:59:38,748
- I'm like, "Um,
- let me just be clear
- 1407
- 00:59:38,749 --> 00:59:40,445
- on what we're talking
- about here.
- 1408
- 00:59:40,446 --> 00:59:43,100
- You know, we're talking
- about medical marijuana.
- 1409
- 00:59:43,101 --> 00:59:44,536
- This is cannabis."
- 1410
- 00:59:44,537 --> 00:59:46,190
- And they were like,
- "That's fine.
- 1411
- 00:59:46,191 --> 00:59:48,932
- We know.
- We're happy to do that for you."
- 1412
- 00:59:48,933 --> 00:59:50,368
- MAN: We came up with
- a plan to figure out
- 1413
- 00:59:50,369 --> 00:59:52,805
- how we could get
- some extra funds for Jim.
- 1414
- 00:59:52,806 --> 00:59:56,592
- When he told me about the
- cannabis treatment, I was like,
- 1415
- 00:59:56,593 --> 00:59:58,463
- "You know what?
- You're gonna do what it takes.
- 1416
- 00:59:58,464 --> 00:59:59,943
- And I'm sure if it was
- my daughter,
- 1417
- 00:59:59,944 --> 01:00:02,946
- I'd probably do the same thing."
- 1418
- 01:00:02,947 --> 01:00:04,774
- JIM: We're humble,
- prideful people.
- 1419
- 01:00:04,775 --> 01:00:07,124
- I mean, I'm too humble.
- 1420
- 01:00:07,125 --> 01:00:08,647
- You know, I'm maxed out.
- 1421
- 01:00:08,648 --> 01:00:10,214
- There's nothing else
- I can possibly do.
- 1422
- 01:00:10,215 --> 01:00:12,085
- And if you don't reach out,
- you know,
- 1423
- 01:00:12,086 --> 01:00:14,522
- your child's not gonna
- get her medication.
- 1424
- 01:00:14,523 --> 01:00:18,048
- She's not...
- She's gonna die, you know?
- 1425
- 01:00:18,049 --> 01:00:20,006
- JACLYN: It's heartbreaking to see
- 1426
- 01:00:20,007 --> 01:00:23,488
- that there's something
- that can help your child,
- 1427
- 01:00:23,489 --> 01:00:26,317
- and you can't get it.
- 1428
- 01:00:26,318 --> 01:00:28,624
- For these parents,
- I can't imagine.
- 1429
- 01:00:28,625 --> 01:00:30,582
- I mean, we've been
- in that situation,
- 1430
- 01:00:30,583 --> 01:00:33,498
- and doors just keep getting
- opened, and it's amazing,
- 1431
- 01:00:33,499 --> 01:00:37,763
- and we're blessed beyond means
- because we have our baby.
- 1432
- 01:00:37,764 --> 01:00:39,547
- So nothing else matters.
- 1433
- 01:00:39,548 --> 01:00:41,332
- But if you're
- paying into insurance,
- 1434
- 01:00:41,333 --> 01:00:44,074
- insurance should pay
- for what you want it to go to
- 1435
- 01:00:44,075 --> 01:00:46,076
- to help whatever
- is showing success.
- 1436
- 01:00:46,077 --> 01:00:49,340
- It's saving our babies' lives.
- 1437
- 01:00:49,341 --> 01:00:57,523
- ♪♪
- 1438
- 01:00:59,525 --> 01:01:02,005
- Kiss? Can I have a kiss?
- 1439
- 01:01:02,006 --> 01:01:05,356
- Thank you. You're so sweet.
- 1440
- 01:01:05,357 --> 01:01:06,966
- You're so sweet.
- 1441
- 01:01:06,967 --> 01:01:10,448
- JOSH: Now the nerves
- really start kicking.
- 1442
- 01:01:10,449 --> 01:01:12,015
- Scan-xiety.
- 1443
- 01:01:12,016 --> 01:01:13,538
- 'Cause we got to do this
- every three months.
- 1444
- 01:01:13,539 --> 01:01:16,541
- And this is gonna be
- our life for a while.
- 1445
- 01:01:16,542 --> 01:01:18,412
- Hi, Betty.
- My name is Tracy Ryan.
- 1446
- 01:01:18,413 --> 01:01:21,372
- My daughter, Sophie,
- had an MRI scan today.
- 1447
- 01:01:21,373 --> 01:01:23,287
- Would I be able
- to put in a request with you
- 1448
- 01:01:23,288 --> 01:01:26,856
- to pick up a disk
- the second it's available?
- 1449
- 01:01:26,857 --> 01:01:28,596
- BETTY: Yeah,
- it's been finalized.
- 1450
- 01:01:28,597 --> 01:01:29,859
- TRACY: Oh, it has been?
- 1451
- 01:01:29,860 --> 01:01:31,599
- - BETTY: Yes.
- - Okay.
- 1452
- 01:01:31,600 --> 01:01:34,037
- BETTY: So, you wanted
- to get a disk, a CD of it?
- 1453
- 01:01:34,038 --> 01:01:35,342
- Yes, ma'am.
- 1454
- 01:01:35,343 --> 01:01:37,041
- I'm gonna go get them.
- 1455
- 01:01:38,869 --> 01:01:41,522
- I always tell my husband
- that it could always be worse,
- 1456
- 01:01:41,523 --> 01:01:44,003
- and we see worse
- every single day of our lives.
- 1457
- 01:01:44,004 --> 01:01:45,613
- Everybody keeps saying,
- 1458
- 01:01:45,614 --> 01:01:47,659
- "God only gives you
- what you can handle,"
- 1459
- 01:01:47,660 --> 01:01:50,053
- but I think that we get things
- that we can't handle sometimes.
- 1460
- 01:01:50,054 --> 01:01:52,664
- I feel like it's
- my responsibility and my duty
- 1461
- 01:01:52,665 --> 01:01:55,319
- to the world and to God
- and to my child
- 1462
- 01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,670
- to pass on this information
- and to help people.
- 1463
- 01:01:58,671 --> 01:02:01,368
- So I created a group
- called CannaKids,
- 1464
- 01:02:01,369 --> 01:02:03,762
- along with some other mommies
- that had sick kids.
- 1465
- 01:02:03,763 --> 01:02:08,114
- It's an amazing, amazing group,
- full of wonderful women and men
- 1466
- 01:02:08,115 --> 01:02:10,421
- and experts
- and doctors and scientists.
- 1467
- 01:02:10,422 --> 01:02:13,380
- And it's just really wonderful.
- 1468
- 01:02:13,381 --> 01:02:14,817
- Hi, Lu.
- 1469
- 01:02:14,818 --> 01:02:16,296
- LULU: What do the
- scans look like?
- 1470
- 01:02:16,297 --> 01:02:18,081
- TRACY: It shrunk!
- Let me get the paper.
- 1471
- 01:02:18,082 --> 01:02:21,824
- Lulu, it is half the size.
- 1472
- 01:02:21,825 --> 01:02:22,868
- LULU: Oh!
- 1473
- 01:02:22,869 --> 01:02:26,089
- It went from 2.6 to 1.7.
- 1474
- 01:02:26,090 --> 01:02:27,873
- It is half the size.
- 1475
- 01:02:27,874 --> 01:02:32,573
- The cystic component
- now measures 1.4 centimeters,
- 1476
- 01:02:32,574 --> 01:02:35,707
- versus 2.8 centimeters on 9/23.
- 1477
- 01:02:35,708 --> 01:02:37,927
- It is also half the size.
- 1478
- 01:02:37,928 --> 01:02:39,537
- LULU: That is...
- 1479
- 01:02:39,538 --> 01:02:42,540
- TRACY: Lulu, these tumors
- don't shrink with chemo.
- 1480
- 01:02:42,541 --> 01:02:44,455
- These tumors don't shrink
- with chemo!
- 1481
- 01:02:44,456 --> 01:02:46,370
- - LULU: Oh, my gosh.
- - Hand on a Bible.
- 1482
- 01:02:46,371 --> 01:02:49,721
- My doctor said, "If you can
- get this tumor to half the size,
- 1483
- 01:02:49,722 --> 01:02:51,897
- there's no way we can claim
- that it was the chemo."
- 1484
- 01:02:51,898 --> 01:02:54,988
- That's the only way.
- It has to get to half the size.
- 1485
- 01:02:57,599 --> 01:02:58,817
- Oh, here we go.
- 1486
- 01:02:58,818 --> 01:03:00,776
- Look at these huge black holes.
- 1487
- 01:03:00,777 --> 01:03:02,342
- That's the Zelda.
- 1488
- 01:03:02,343 --> 01:03:04,562
- There's, like,
- nothing over here anymore.
- 1489
- 01:03:04,563 --> 01:03:08,044
- Like, this used to be
- all kinds of tumor over here.
- 1490
- 01:03:08,045 --> 01:03:09,610
- This has always been
- the heavier side.
- 1491
- 01:03:09,611 --> 01:03:12,309
- This is... Oh, my God.
- That's the cyst!
- 1492
- 01:03:12,310 --> 01:03:14,093
- That's where the cyst
- used to be.
- 1493
- 01:03:14,094 --> 01:03:15,399
- Almost gone!
- 1494
- 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:17,836
- I mean, it's just beautiful.
- 1495
- 01:03:17,837 --> 01:03:20,839
- I never thought I'd be
- saying that about a tumor.
- 1496
- 01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:24,625
- I feel very, very, very hopeful.
- 1497
- 01:03:24,626 --> 01:03:26,627
- [Laughs]
- It's working.
- 1498
- 01:03:26,628 --> 01:03:28,891
- [Sniffles]
- 1499
- 01:03:28,892 --> 01:03:31,067
- - Hi! We're here to see...
- - Hi. You're Sophie.
- 1500
- 01:03:31,068 --> 01:03:32,503
- - Yes, ma'am.
- - Hi, Sophie!
- 1501
- 01:03:32,504 --> 01:03:34,461
- Say hi!
- 1502
- 01:03:34,462 --> 01:03:37,377
- Sophie, did the sleepy medicine
- get you already, my Buffy?
- 1503
- 01:03:37,378 --> 01:03:39,597
- She's like, "My cannabis
- doesn't even do this to me."
- 1504
- 01:03:39,598 --> 01:03:41,120
- [Laughs]
- 1505
- 01:03:41,121 --> 01:03:42,513
- - This is Tracy.
- - CHENG: Hello, Tracy.
- 1506
- 01:03:42,514 --> 01:03:44,080
- It's Dr. Cheng.
- So, thankfully,
- 1507
- 01:03:44,081 --> 01:03:46,082
- Sophie continues
- to make progress, okay?
- 1508
- 01:03:46,083 --> 01:03:48,084
- - Yes!
- - At 1 year of age,
- 1509
- 01:03:48,085 --> 01:03:49,563
- chemotherapy with carboplatin
- 1510
- 01:03:49,564 --> 01:03:51,652
- and vincristine was started,
- period.
- 1511
- 01:03:51,653 --> 01:03:55,178
- It's clear the tumor has shrunk
- enormously on the chemotherapy.
- 1512
- 01:03:55,179 --> 01:03:56,614
- We're doing a lot
- of holistic approaches
- 1513
- 01:03:56,615 --> 01:03:58,746
- along with her chemo treatment.
- 1514
- 01:03:58,747 --> 01:04:01,662
- Have you ever seen
- this much shrinkage before?
- 1515
- 01:04:01,663 --> 01:04:04,665
- I would agree
- that you wouldn't expect
- 1516
- 01:04:04,666 --> 01:04:07,407
- to see that much shrinkage
- of a tumor from chemotherapy.
- 1517
- 01:04:07,408 --> 01:04:10,280
- I'm not sure it's
- the chemotherapy.
- 1518
- 01:04:10,281 --> 01:04:12,151
- - [Laughs]
- - Well, we don't think
- 1519
- 01:04:12,152 --> 01:04:14,545
- - it's the chemotherapy.
- - It might be. It might not be.
- 1520
- 01:04:14,546 --> 01:04:18,505
- - I have no idea.
- - Right.
- 1521
- 01:04:18,506 --> 01:04:21,204
- Honey, it's almost gone. I'm
- looking at all kinds of angles.
- 1522
- 01:04:21,205 --> 01:04:22,727
- - It's almost gone.
- - JOSH: Really?
- 1523
- 01:04:22,728 --> 01:04:23,859
- TRACY: I'm... Yeah.
- 1524
- 01:04:23,860 --> 01:04:25,338
- JOSH: Oh, that's amazing.
- 1525
- 01:04:25,339 --> 01:04:27,819
- Sophie, do you...
- Do you want to get up?
- 1526
- 01:04:27,820 --> 01:04:29,560
- Your chemo's done, honey!
- 1527
- 01:04:29,561 --> 01:04:31,431
- - Your chemo's done, honey!
- - JOSH: Hi, sweetie!
- 1528
- 01:04:31,432 --> 01:04:32,911
- TRACY: You're done!
- 1529
- 01:04:32,912 --> 01:04:35,261
- Sophie, Sophie, look!
- Sophie, look!
- 1530
- 01:04:35,262 --> 01:04:38,177
- [All cheering]
- 1531
- 01:04:38,178 --> 01:04:42,399
- ♪♪
- 1532
- 01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,923
- WOMAN: Okay, there is one...
- There's one?
- 1533
- 01:04:44,924 --> 01:04:46,925
- So proud, Sophie.
- 1534
- 01:04:46,926 --> 01:04:50,407
- I've been so proud of you.
- 1535
- 01:04:50,408 --> 01:04:52,758
- [Indistinct conversations]
- 1536
- 01:04:55,761 --> 01:04:58,589
- CHRIS: Around three months
- into doing this,
- 1537
- 01:04:58,590 --> 01:05:01,157
- Dr. Storch looks at us and said,
- 1538
- 01:05:01,158 --> 01:05:04,508
- "He looks like
- he's getting better."
- 1539
- 01:05:04,509 --> 01:05:08,251
- And I said, "Well, you know,
- yeah, he is."
- 1540
- 01:05:08,252 --> 01:05:11,254
- Another month went by,
- and, reluctantly,
- 1541
- 01:05:11,255 --> 01:05:15,084
- I agreed to let
- the scans take place.
- 1542
- 01:05:15,085 --> 01:05:16,563
- She looks at us and says,
- 1543
- 01:05:16,564 --> 01:05:18,435
- "I don't know
- how to tell you this.
- 1544
- 01:05:18,436 --> 01:05:21,394
- I can't explain it.
- 1545
- 01:05:21,395 --> 01:05:23,440
- But his scan is clear.
- 1546
- 01:05:23,441 --> 01:05:28,227
- There is no more tumors
- in his chest."
- 1547
- 01:05:28,228 --> 01:05:30,534
- Four months. 20 tumors.
- 1548
- 01:05:30,535 --> 01:05:32,101
- Gone.
- 1549
- 01:05:32,102 --> 01:05:33,406
- It's clear.
- 1550
- 01:05:33,407 --> 01:05:35,843
- We do the next scan... Clear.
- 1551
- 01:05:35,844 --> 01:05:38,629
- The next scan... Clear.
- The next scan... Clear.
- 1552
- 01:05:38,630 --> 01:05:40,979
- She goes, "There's no cancer
- in him right now.
- 1553
- 01:05:40,980 --> 01:05:42,198
- He's clear."
- 1554
- 01:05:42,199 --> 01:05:43,634
- April's our magic month that...
- 1555
- 01:05:43,635 --> 01:05:45,418
- I call it the magic month,
- 1556
- 01:05:45,419 --> 01:05:47,943
- because that's when
- we're gonna stop chemo totally
- 1557
- 01:05:47,944 --> 01:05:51,947
- and then just try to see if...
- If it is the cannabis,
- 1558
- 01:05:51,948 --> 01:05:53,731
- we're gonna find out
- right there and then.
- 1559
- 01:05:53,732 --> 01:05:57,126
- You know, I find out a child
- has cancer or something,
- 1560
- 01:05:57,127 --> 01:05:58,692
- I go straight to the parent,
- 1561
- 01:05:58,693 --> 01:06:00,564
- and I give them
- Dr. Goldstein's number.
- 1562
- 01:06:00,565 --> 01:06:02,131
- And I say, "You have to try.
- 1563
- 01:06:02,132 --> 01:06:04,046
- - You have to try."
- - CHRIS: She goes straight
- 1564
- 01:06:04,047 --> 01:06:05,830
- to the parent and tells them,
- "Put your kid on oil."
- 1565
- 01:06:05,831 --> 01:06:07,049
- - I do. I do.
- - CHRIS: 100%.
- 1566
- 01:06:07,050 --> 01:06:09,051
- She just goes, goes, goes.
- 1567
- 01:06:09,052 --> 01:06:11,096
- I will look at the people and
- people that ask me about A.J.
- 1568
- 01:06:11,097 --> 01:06:14,882
- and ask me about the cannabis
- oil, and I will tell them,
- 1569
- 01:06:14,883 --> 01:06:17,885
- "I honestly don't know
- if this will work for you,
- 1570
- 01:06:17,886 --> 01:06:22,673
- but what I'm gonna tell you
- is what it did for my son."
- 1571
- 01:06:22,674 --> 01:06:25,110
- ♪♪
- 1572
- 01:06:25,111 --> 01:06:28,157
- GOLDSTEIN: I have over probably
- 300 pediatric patients
- 1573
- 01:06:28,158 --> 01:06:30,289
- using cannabis right now.
- 1574
- 01:06:30,290 --> 01:06:32,465
- I have a case report
- of a 16-year-old
- 1575
- 01:06:32,466 --> 01:06:34,337
- who came to me a year ago April
- 1576
- 01:06:34,338 --> 01:06:36,469
- with a stage IV osteosarcoma.
- 1577
- 01:06:36,470 --> 01:06:38,950
- They came in,
- referred in by an oncologist.
- 1578
- 01:06:38,951 --> 01:06:41,735
- So bravo to her
- for sending the patient to me.
- 1579
- 01:06:41,736 --> 01:06:43,694
- He started cannabis oil
- in April,
- 1580
- 01:06:43,695 --> 01:06:47,306
- and in July, he had PET scan,
- C.T., MRI,
- 1581
- 01:06:47,307 --> 01:06:50,266
- and a bone scan
- all negative for disease,
- 1582
- 01:06:50,267 --> 01:06:52,703
- which is really incredible.
- 1583
- 01:06:52,704 --> 01:06:55,488
- ♪♪
- 1584
- 01:06:55,489 --> 01:06:58,665
- He had repeat scans in November,
- which were negative.
- 1585
- 01:06:58,666 --> 01:07:01,059
- I called his oncologist,
- and I said, "What do you think?"
- 1586
- 01:07:01,060 --> 01:07:03,409
- And she said,
- "Well, he should be dead."
- 1587
- 01:07:03,410 --> 01:07:04,889
- I just saw him last week.
- 1588
- 01:07:04,890 --> 01:07:07,326
- His hair's growing back.
- He's off chemo.
- 1589
- 01:07:07,327 --> 01:07:11,896
- He's a little bit beat up from
- his three years of chemotherapy.
- 1590
- 01:07:11,897 --> 01:07:14,812
- For about the first eight months
- of his treatment,
- 1591
- 01:07:14,813 --> 01:07:18,685
- he was on gemcitabine,
- which is, in one study,
- 1592
- 01:07:18,686 --> 01:07:22,907
- synergistic with cannabinoids
- to increase cancer killing.
- 1593
- 01:07:22,908 --> 01:07:25,997
- It appears so far that we're
- getting some good results.
- 1594
- 01:07:25,998 --> 01:07:28,478
- I never say "cure" with cancer
- 'cause I don't know,
- 1595
- 01:07:28,479 --> 01:07:30,828
- but I definitely say
- "extension of life."
- 1596
- 01:07:30,829 --> 01:07:33,918
- ♪♪
- 1597
- 01:07:33,919 --> 01:07:36,573
- GORDON: First time
- that we talked with A.J.,
- 1598
- 01:07:36,574 --> 01:07:38,401
- he was almost nonverbal,
- 1599
- 01:07:38,402 --> 01:07:41,621
- because he had
- so much inflammation.
- 1600
- 01:07:41,622 --> 01:07:45,582
- Here he was two months ago,
- and here he is now.
- 1601
- 01:07:45,583 --> 01:07:47,062
- STEWART: That's him?
- 1602
- 01:07:47,063 --> 01:07:48,715
- GORDON: No more steroids.
- 1603
- 01:07:48,716 --> 01:07:51,936
- That's your typical cancer-kid
- face right there.
- 1604
- 01:07:51,937 --> 01:07:53,242
- And that's him now.
- 1605
- 01:07:53,243 --> 01:07:55,113
- God, you got to love that.
- 1606
- 01:07:55,114 --> 01:07:56,810
- Oh, Angela.
- 1607
- 01:07:56,811 --> 01:07:58,682
- When they went back to Chicago,
- 1608
- 01:07:58,683 --> 01:08:00,423
- fortunately, somebody
- in California
- 1609
- 01:08:00,424 --> 01:08:03,208
- was willing to act
- as an angel for them.
- 1610
- 01:08:03,209 --> 01:08:05,993
- So, we got A.J. initially...
- 1611
- 01:08:05,994 --> 01:08:08,518
- He was on the Hindu Kush
- and the Yummy.
- 1612
- 01:08:08,519 --> 01:08:10,433
- - ANGELA P.: Right.
- - GORDON: If he's only on 0.5
- 1613
- 01:08:10,434 --> 01:08:12,348
- right now on that...
- 1614
- 01:08:12,349 --> 01:08:15,829
- ANGELA P.: The Skunk hasn't
- come in yet from our angel.
- 1615
- 01:08:15,830 --> 01:08:17,527
- GORDON: Uh-oh.
- 1616
- 01:08:17,528 --> 01:08:19,006
- We're gonna have
- to figure that out.
- 1617
- 01:08:19,007 --> 01:08:22,880
- This is not the ratio
- I want him at.
- 1618
- 01:08:22,881 --> 01:08:28,190
- I want him to be on
- the 5-something of THC
- 1619
- 01:08:28,191 --> 01:08:29,843
- and 2-something of the CBD.
- 1620
- 01:08:29,844 --> 01:08:33,020
- I want him to be on
- at least two-to-one.
- 1621
- 01:08:33,021 --> 01:08:34,587
- ANGELA P.:
- When the Skunk gets here,
- 1622
- 01:08:34,588 --> 01:08:36,372
- we'll get back to that goal.
- 1623
- 01:08:36,373 --> 01:08:38,983
- GORDON: Right, okay.
- Do you have enough right now?
- 1624
- 01:08:38,984 --> 01:08:41,290
- ANGELA P.: We're just about
- done at this point.
- 1625
- 01:08:41,291 --> 01:08:44,684
- I would rather that you give him
- a little less each dose
- 1626
- 01:08:44,685 --> 01:08:47,818
- and stretch it out
- than risk running out of it.
- 1627
- 01:08:47,819 --> 01:08:49,994
- - ANGELA P.: Okay.
- - And how's he doing in school?
- 1628
- 01:08:49,995 --> 01:08:51,778
- ANGELA P.: Oh, my gosh.
- He's doing phenomenal.
- 1629
- 01:08:51,779 --> 01:08:53,389
- He loves going to school.
- 1630
- 01:08:53,390 --> 01:08:55,956
- He's on grade level
- at this point, and...
- 1631
- 01:08:55,957 --> 01:08:59,743
- And that's on a gram
- and a half of cannabis.
- 1632
- 01:08:59,744 --> 01:09:01,614
- What a rock star. Okay.
- 1633
- 01:09:01,615 --> 01:09:05,488
- She's doing 0.5
- at two times a day
- 1634
- 01:09:05,489 --> 01:09:08,317
- and was only doing the 1
- on the THC,
- 1635
- 01:09:08,318 --> 01:09:09,840
- which is not sufficient.
- 1636
- 01:09:09,841 --> 01:09:12,234
- When we had that big
- CBD shortage,
- 1637
- 01:09:12,235 --> 01:09:15,802
- they got some medicine
- from somebody else.
- 1638
- 01:09:15,803 --> 01:09:18,762
- Everybody that has a still
- is not an oil maker.
- 1639
- 01:09:18,763 --> 01:09:21,112
- Everybody that has,
- you know, flowers
- 1640
- 01:09:21,113 --> 01:09:23,593
- does not know
- what to do with it.
- 1641
- 01:09:23,594 --> 01:09:27,336
- I get so furious
- with the lack of legis...
- 1642
- 01:09:27,337 --> 01:09:31,863
- I mean, the lack of regulation
- and the lack of oversight.
- 1643
- 01:09:33,604 --> 01:09:35,518
- And that's one of
- the main reasons
- 1644
- 01:09:35,519 --> 01:09:38,521
- I want it legal is so that
- we can start having standards
- 1645
- 01:09:38,522 --> 01:09:40,392
- and not having it be
- the Wild West,
- 1646
- 01:09:40,393 --> 01:09:42,655
- which is just insane right now.
- 1647
- 01:09:42,656 --> 01:09:45,049
- Let me call Tracy.
- 1648
- 01:09:45,050 --> 01:09:46,616
- Where are we right now
- 1649
- 01:09:46,617 --> 01:09:50,054
- on dosing on Sophie?
- 1650
- 01:09:50,055 --> 01:09:52,839
- TRACY: Predominantly,
- we're at one-to-one.
- 1651
- 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:54,406
- Okay.
- 1652
- 01:09:54,407 --> 01:09:57,844
- What made you decide
- to change to one-to-one?
- 1653
- 01:09:57,845 --> 01:10:00,369
- TRACY: I thought that was what
- we had discussed a while back.
- 1654
- 01:10:00,370 --> 01:10:02,327
- I don't remember
- exactly why it was
- 1655
- 01:10:02,328 --> 01:10:04,677
- that we switched to a one-to-one
- 'cause it's been so long ago.
- 1656
- 01:10:04,678 --> 01:10:07,941
- But now she's doing
- Charlotte's Web
- 1657
- 01:10:07,942 --> 01:10:11,075
- and the THC
- that you gave me last...
- 1658
- 01:10:11,076 --> 01:10:12,642
- I can't remember
- what strain it was,
- 1659
- 01:10:12,643 --> 01:10:14,687
- and...
- [Speaks indistinctly]
- 1660
- 01:10:14,688 --> 01:10:17,560
- So, she's not even...
- She's doing Charlotte's Web
- 1661
- 01:10:17,561 --> 01:10:19,388
- instead of our...?
- 1662
- 01:10:19,389 --> 01:10:23,043
- TRACY: It's been predominantly
- Charlotte's for a while.
- 1663
- 01:10:23,044 --> 01:10:24,610
- Really?
- 1664
- 01:10:24,611 --> 01:10:26,395
- TRACY: 'Cause, remember,
- you ran out of CBD.
- 1665
- 01:10:26,396 --> 01:10:28,092
- Yeah, I knew that...
- 'Cause last time I asked you,
- 1666
- 01:10:28,093 --> 01:10:30,050
- you told me
- that she's had a grand total
- 1667
- 01:10:30,051 --> 01:10:33,097
- of two syringes
- of Charlotte's Web.
- 1668
- 01:10:33,098 --> 01:10:34,925
- - TRACY: No.
- - GORDON: Yes.
- 1669
- 01:10:34,926 --> 01:10:37,928
- TRACY: She started
- Charlotte's Web in February.
- 1670
- 01:10:37,929 --> 01:10:39,321
- If you look at your records
- 1671
- 01:10:39,322 --> 01:10:41,192
- and you see how much CBD
- you sent me,
- 1672
- 01:10:41,193 --> 01:10:42,585
- it hasn't been
- that much for a while,
- 1673
- 01:10:42,586 --> 01:10:44,456
- because you guys had
- that shortage.
- 1674
- 01:10:44,457 --> 01:10:45,849
- GORDON: Right, so you're...
- 1675
- 01:10:45,850 --> 01:10:48,068
- She's not really
- our patient anymore.
- 1676
- 01:10:48,069 --> 01:10:51,115
- She's just using
- one of our products.
- 1677
- 01:10:51,116 --> 01:10:53,770
- TRACY: Well, I mean,
- you've trained me well.
- 1678
- 01:10:53,771 --> 01:10:55,859
- [Laughs]
- We were having success.
- 1679
- 01:10:55,860 --> 01:10:58,949
- I knew what I was doing.
- I knew I had excellent medicine.
- 1680
- 01:10:58,950 --> 01:11:00,733
- You had trained me
- how to take care of her.
- 1681
- 01:11:00,734 --> 01:11:02,387
- How I was taking care of her
- was working.
- 1682
- 01:11:02,388 --> 01:11:05,303
- I mean, you know,
- she has her own plants there,
- 1683
- 01:11:05,304 --> 01:11:07,000
- and it's $100 cheaper.
- 1684
- 01:11:07,001 --> 01:11:09,699
- Actually, this last one
- was only $204.51
- 1685
- 01:11:09,700 --> 01:11:12,136
- for almost 10 grams.
- 1686
- 01:11:12,137 --> 01:11:14,530
- So, you know, I don't have
- a lot of money right now.
- 1687
- 01:11:14,531 --> 01:11:16,619
- I'm barely hanging on.
- 1688
- 01:11:16,620 --> 01:11:18,403
- And anywhere I can save
- 100 bucks,
- 1689
- 01:11:18,404 --> 01:11:20,449
- especially if I need to get
- two or three syringes,
- 1690
- 01:11:20,450 --> 01:11:22,538
- - it's a big deal.
- - Okay, well...
- 1691
- 01:11:22,539 --> 01:11:24,148
- TRACY: I hope
- you understand that.
- 1692
- 01:11:24,149 --> 01:11:25,584
- It's not that I don't
- trust your medicine.
- 1693
- 01:11:25,585 --> 01:11:27,020
- I love your medicine
- just as much.
- 1694
- 01:11:27,021 --> 01:11:28,979
- It's really a financial thing.
- 1695
- 01:11:28,980 --> 01:11:30,763
- Right. Yeah.
- 1696
- 01:11:30,764 --> 01:11:32,896
- Um, Sophie's doing great,
- though.
- 1697
- 01:11:32,897 --> 01:11:34,637
- So that's all that matters.
- 1698
- 01:11:34,638 --> 01:11:37,640
- TRACY: Yeah, she is just
- as normal as any 2-year-old.
- 1699
- 01:11:37,641 --> 01:11:39,816
- We went and saw
- Dr. Bonni Goldstein today
- 1700
- 01:11:39,817 --> 01:11:41,861
- to get her reviewed,
- 1701
- 01:11:41,862 --> 01:11:43,907
- and Bonni just didn't
- believe her eyes
- 1702
- 01:11:43,908 --> 01:11:45,952
- - at how great she's doing.
- - Okay.
- 1703
- 01:11:45,953 --> 01:11:49,086
- All right. Take care.
- Say hi to everyone for me.
- 1704
- 01:11:49,087 --> 01:11:50,914
- TRACY: Will do.
- Talk to you later.
- 1705
- 01:11:50,915 --> 01:11:53,133
- - All right. Bye.
- - TRACY: Bye-bye.
- 1706
- 01:11:53,134 --> 01:11:56,267
- In order for someone to be
- our patient, they have to commit
- 1707
- 01:11:56,268 --> 01:11:59,749
- to allowing us to follow them
- and learn from them.
- 1708
- 01:11:59,750 --> 01:12:01,577
- That's the only reason
- we do this
- 1709
- 01:12:01,578 --> 01:12:04,014
- is so that we can learn
- and understand and whatever.
- 1710
- 01:12:04,015 --> 01:12:08,105
- If somebody's getting medicine
- from other places
- 1711
- 01:12:08,106 --> 01:12:11,500
- and then not taking it the way
- that we tell them to take it,
- 1712
- 01:12:11,501 --> 01:12:13,850
- they might as well just go
- to a dispensary and buy it.
- 1713
- 01:12:13,851 --> 01:12:16,243
- That's not who
- an Aunt Zelda's patient is.
- 1714
- 01:12:16,244 --> 01:12:19,029
- So, I'm gonna have
- to give considerable thought
- 1715
- 01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:21,553
- to whether Sophie
- is still our patient
- 1716
- 01:12:21,554 --> 01:12:23,555
- under these circumstances.
- 1717
- 01:12:23,556 --> 01:12:27,385
- And it's too bad, because
- I believe Sophie is where she is
- 1718
- 01:12:27,386 --> 01:12:30,475
- because of our protocol
- and our medicine.
- 1719
- 01:12:30,476 --> 01:12:34,044
- But, oh,
- how quickly they forget.
- 1720
- 01:12:34,045 --> 01:12:42,531
- ♪♪
- 1721
- 01:12:42,532 --> 01:12:45,011
- The day has finally come
- that we are doing
- 1722
- 01:12:45,012 --> 01:12:49,189
- our first CannaKids meet-up.
- 1723
- 01:12:49,190 --> 01:12:52,454
- This is, like, our big
- kind of official
- 1724
- 01:12:52,455 --> 01:12:54,238
- CannaKids launch day.
- 1725
- 01:12:54,239 --> 01:12:55,935
- So we're really excited.
- 1726
- 01:12:55,936 --> 01:12:57,415
- We've got a lot of people
- in the industry coming.
- 1727
- 01:12:57,416 --> 01:13:00,200
- We've got a lot
- of families coming.
- 1728
- 01:13:00,201 --> 01:13:02,507
- Hey, hey!
- [Indistinct conversations]
- 1729
- 01:13:02,508 --> 01:13:03,726
- Hi, guys!
- 1730
- 01:13:03,727 --> 01:13:05,205
- How are you?
- 1731
- 01:13:05,206 --> 01:13:07,164
- [Gasps] Sophie!
- 1732
- 01:13:07,165 --> 01:13:08,557
- Hi, baby!
- 1733
- 01:13:08,558 --> 01:13:11,734
- Oh, goodness!
- Can I have a kiss?
- 1734
- 01:13:11,735 --> 01:13:12,996
- Thank you.
- 1735
- 01:13:12,997 --> 01:13:14,824
- Did you see your friends?
- 1736
- 01:13:14,825 --> 01:13:17,130
- Test. All right, everybody.
- 1737
- 01:13:17,131 --> 01:13:20,873
- We're gonna go ahead and get
- started here in just a second.
- 1738
- 01:13:20,874 --> 01:13:22,309
- My name is Tracy Ryan.
- 1739
- 01:13:22,310 --> 01:13:25,400
- I am the co-founder
- of CannaKids.
- 1740
- 01:13:25,401 --> 01:13:28,577
- So, just a quick rundown
- of what the site is gonna be.
- 1741
- 01:13:28,578 --> 01:13:31,101
- First and foremost, it's
- a massive resources section...
- 1742
- 01:13:31,102 --> 01:13:35,888
- So, all of the information that
- I have learned over the years,
- 1743
- 01:13:35,889 --> 01:13:39,805
- families I know that have
- learned over the years.
- 1744
- 01:13:39,806 --> 01:13:41,416
- Since getting her on cannabis
- 1745
- 01:13:41,417 --> 01:13:43,461
- and using it alongside
- Western medicine,
- 1746
- 01:13:43,462 --> 01:13:45,289
- we've almost completely
- destroyed a tumor
- 1747
- 01:13:45,290 --> 01:13:48,248
- that was, like, never supposed
- to really shrink.
- 1748
- 01:13:48,249 --> 01:13:49,815
- So, little Sophie!
- 1749
- 01:13:49,816 --> 01:13:52,296
- [Laughs]
- 1750
- 01:13:52,297 --> 01:13:53,602
- So, here we go, guys.
- 1751
- 01:13:53,603 --> 01:13:55,430
- On the screen,
- 1752
- 01:13:55,431 --> 01:13:57,954
- we have the Christmas tree farm.
- 1753
- 01:13:57,955 --> 01:14:01,044
- There are 100 plants
- for our patients.
- 1754
- 01:14:01,045 --> 01:14:02,785
- I mean, I have to tell you guys,
- 1755
- 01:14:02,786 --> 01:14:04,482
- like, I'm getting
- really emotional
- 1756
- 01:14:04,483 --> 01:14:07,572
- about how everything
- is kind of evolving
- 1757
- 01:14:07,573 --> 01:14:08,878
- and, like, coming together.
- 1758
- 01:14:08,879 --> 01:14:10,923
- Look at what we're doing,
- you know?
- 1759
- 01:14:10,924 --> 01:14:12,882
- I mean,
- we're gonna change lives.
- 1760
- 01:14:12,883 --> 01:14:16,668
- And even if we just save
- one child,
- 1761
- 01:14:16,669 --> 01:14:19,541
- even if we cure
- one kid of epilepsy,
- 1762
- 01:14:19,542 --> 01:14:20,977
- we shrink one brain tumor
- 1763
- 01:14:20,978 --> 01:14:22,674
- more than what we've done
- with Sophie,
- 1764
- 01:14:22,675 --> 01:14:24,589
- we've changed the world.
- 1765
- 01:14:24,590 --> 01:14:27,940
- ♪♪
- 1766
- 01:14:27,941 --> 01:14:29,725
- FEDERMAN: It's definitely
- an improvement.
- 1767
- 01:14:29,726 --> 01:14:32,989
- SMITH: Yeah.
- 1768
- 01:14:32,990 --> 01:14:34,643
- Yeah, I couldn't
- be more pleased.
- 1769
- 01:14:34,644 --> 01:14:36,427
- - SMITH: Oh, God.
- - Yeah.
- 1770
- 01:14:36,428 --> 01:14:37,950
- Night and day, Chico.
- 1771
- 01:14:37,951 --> 01:14:39,952
- - Night and day.
- - People double-take.
- 1772
- 01:14:39,953 --> 01:14:43,652
- And it takes them a few seconds
- to realize that it's Chico.
- 1773
- 01:14:43,653 --> 01:14:46,132
- I say, you know,
- "Remember Chico,"
- 1774
- 01:14:46,133 --> 01:14:49,701
- you know, because it was
- really tough on you.
- 1775
- 01:14:49,702 --> 01:14:52,095
- This therapy was really tough.
- 1776
- 01:14:52,096 --> 01:14:55,402
- And we got through it.
- 1777
- 01:14:55,403 --> 01:14:58,841
- You got through barely,
- by the skin of your teeth,
- 1778
- 01:14:58,842 --> 01:15:03,498
- with a lot of help
- from a variety of sources.
- 1779
- 01:15:03,499 --> 01:15:07,414
- And just seeing you now,
- it's terrific.
- 1780
- 01:15:07,415 --> 01:15:10,243
- This is what I live for.
- Questions?
- 1781
- 01:15:10,244 --> 01:15:13,812
- Can we get a renewal of his
- cannabis oil recommendation?
- 1782
- 01:15:13,813 --> 01:15:15,771
- I mentioned it to Margie
- the other day.
- 1783
- 01:15:15,772 --> 01:15:17,642
- - FEDERMAN: Yes, absolutely.
- - 'Cause we're still giving him
- 1784
- 01:15:17,643 --> 01:15:19,688
- - a small maintenance dose.
- - FEDERMAN: Sure, absolutely.
- 1785
- 01:15:19,689 --> 01:15:21,994
- Because they say it helps
- prevent relapse.
- 1786
- 01:15:21,995 --> 01:15:23,996
- And also, it stimulates
- appetite, as well.
- 1787
- 01:15:23,997 --> 01:15:25,432
- FEDERMAN: Absolutely.
- 1788
- 01:15:25,433 --> 01:15:27,826
- A lot of this
- is very new for us.
- 1789
- 01:15:27,827 --> 01:15:30,525
- And...
- 1790
- 01:15:30,526 --> 01:15:32,875
- so I don't know all the answers.
- 1791
- 01:15:32,876 --> 01:15:34,616
- The reality is
- is we're learning.
- 1792
- 01:15:34,617 --> 01:15:39,708
- And because of patients
- like you, Chico, we've...
- 1793
- 01:15:39,709 --> 01:15:43,886
- Our minds are more open
- towards these types of things
- 1794
- 01:15:43,887 --> 01:15:45,714
- and that there are
- other patients
- 1795
- 01:15:45,715 --> 01:15:49,500
- that have derived benefit
- from our experience with you.
- 1796
- 01:15:49,501 --> 01:15:52,242
- And that is, I think,
- very helpful.
- 1797
- 01:15:52,243 --> 01:15:54,287
- There's still a lot
- that we don't know.
- 1798
- 01:15:54,288 --> 01:15:57,726
- I just want to say thank you
- for being an amazing oncologist.
- 1799
- 01:15:57,727 --> 01:15:59,902
- And thank you
- for having such an open mind.
- 1800
- 01:15:59,903 --> 01:16:03,296
- And, like, it's fantastic,
- isn't it, Chico?
- 1801
- 01:16:03,297 --> 01:16:05,255
- Isn't it?
- What do you say to Dr. Federman?
- 1802
- 01:16:05,256 --> 01:16:06,604
- Thank you.
- 1803
- 01:16:06,605 --> 01:16:09,085
- Do you realize you
- and what you did
- 1804
- 01:16:09,086 --> 01:16:13,393
- has made him change his mind
- and change his thinking?
- 1805
- 01:16:13,394 --> 01:16:14,525
- Yeah.
- 1806
- 01:16:14,526 --> 01:16:15,787
- That's incredible!
- 1807
- 01:16:15,788 --> 01:16:19,269
- I'm so proud of you!
- 1808
- 01:16:19,270 --> 01:16:20,923
- Are you proud of yourself?
- 1809
- 01:16:20,924 --> 01:16:22,968
- - Yeah.
- - You really should be.
- 1810
- 01:16:22,969 --> 01:16:24,622
- [Laughs]
- 1811
- 01:16:24,623 --> 01:16:26,624
- You really should be.
- 1812
- 01:16:26,625 --> 01:16:32,630
- ♪♪
- 1813
- 01:16:32,631 --> 01:16:35,633
- SMITH: We bought a bike about two
- weeks before he was diagnosed,
- 1814
- 01:16:35,634 --> 01:16:37,635
- and he wasn't ever able
- to get on that bike.
- 1815
- 01:16:37,636 --> 01:16:40,769
- And then monumentally got
- on the bike and started cycling.
- 1816
- 01:16:40,770 --> 01:16:42,335
- I was like...
- 1817
- 01:16:42,336 --> 01:16:45,164
- [Voice breaking]
- "This is a good day."
- 1818
- 01:16:45,165 --> 01:16:46,905
- [Chuckles tearfully]
- 1819
- 01:16:46,906 --> 01:16:56,307
- ♪♪
- 1820
- 01:17:04,315 --> 01:17:06,969
- TRACY: I now consider myself
- a "momcologist."
- 1821
- 01:17:06,970 --> 01:17:09,145
- I mean, three years
- of chemotherapy,
- 1822
- 01:17:09,146 --> 01:17:11,016
- in and out of hospitals,
- 1823
- 01:17:11,017 --> 01:17:13,366
- and the research papers
- that have come across my desk
- 1824
- 01:17:13,367 --> 01:17:16,369
- and the websites that we've now
- built to gather information
- 1825
- 01:17:16,370 --> 01:17:18,545
- and study all of the different
- clinical trials
- 1826
- 01:17:18,546 --> 01:17:20,896
- that are out there...
- I'm proud of the accomplishments
- 1827
- 01:17:20,897 --> 01:17:22,811
- that we've made
- in such a short time.
- 1828
- 01:17:22,812 --> 01:17:25,378
- Okay, yeah, let's check in here.
- 1829
- 01:17:25,379 --> 01:17:27,511
- And then, for the press
- conference, we just go upstairs?
- 1830
- 01:17:27,512 --> 01:17:29,165
- WOMAN: Yes,
- it's on the second floor.
- 1831
- 01:17:29,166 --> 01:17:30,601
- Okay, right up there.
- Just up the stairs.
- 1832
- 01:17:30,602 --> 01:17:32,516
- - Thank you.
- - Oh, yeah, of course.
- 1833
- 01:17:32,517 --> 01:17:36,346
- I started doing this
- five-plus years ago now,
- 1834
- 01:17:36,347 --> 01:17:38,783
- and I've been working
- on creating this software,
- 1835
- 01:17:38,784 --> 01:17:40,567
- fueling it with our data,
- 1836
- 01:17:40,568 --> 01:17:42,874
- and it's now out in beta.
- 1837
- 01:17:42,875 --> 01:17:44,528
- And we have on our board
- 1838
- 01:17:44,529 --> 01:17:47,009
- some of the leading scientists
- in the world.
- 1839
- 01:17:47,010 --> 01:17:49,838
- Cristina Sanchez
- from Complutense University
- 1840
- 01:17:49,839 --> 01:17:51,404
- is coming for two months,
- 1841
- 01:17:51,405 --> 01:17:53,363
- and we're gonna be having
- Dr. Noah Federman,
- 1842
- 01:17:53,364 --> 01:17:55,626
- who's on our board, from UCLA.
- 1843
- 01:17:55,627 --> 01:17:58,629
- Oh, my God.
- Leading sarcoma specialist.
- 1844
- 01:17:58,630 --> 01:18:00,370
- And they're getting together
- to start...
- 1845
- 01:18:00,371 --> 01:18:03,242
- We're getting an IRB
- to start analyzing our data
- 1846
- 01:18:03,243 --> 01:18:07,594
- and then run clinical trials,
- out of UCLA.
- 1847
- 01:18:07,595 --> 01:18:10,728
- Right? So, the fact that we are
- at Harvard Medical School
- 1848
- 01:18:10,729 --> 01:18:15,167
- is so important,
- because we are taking something
- 1849
- 01:18:15,168 --> 01:18:17,996
- that is seen
- on the outer fringe,
- 1850
- 01:18:17,997 --> 01:18:20,303
- and we are legitimizing it
- by bringing it
- 1851
- 01:18:20,304 --> 01:18:24,133
- into this traditional
- Harvard environment.
- 1852
- 01:18:24,134 --> 01:18:26,309
- So I'm very, very grateful
- to be here.
- 1853
- 01:18:26,310 --> 01:18:28,137
- Quick video of you
- to send to my wife?
- 1854
- 01:18:28,138 --> 01:18:29,704
- - Yes, you may.
- - Okay. Hold on.
- 1855
- 01:18:29,705 --> 01:18:30,835
- Okay.
- 1856
- 01:18:30,836 --> 01:18:32,358
- GORDON: Okay. Hello.
- 1857
- 01:18:32,359 --> 01:18:36,754
- I trust this woman
- with my wife's life.
- 1858
- 01:18:36,755 --> 01:18:38,060
- WOMAN: Can I ask you a question?
- 1859
- 01:18:38,061 --> 01:18:40,236
- MAN: On the way down, please.
- 1860
- 01:18:40,237 --> 01:18:43,326
- - TRACY: Hey, Mara.
- - Hello.
- 1861
- 01:18:43,327 --> 01:18:46,111
- Sophie is a mixed thing for me,
- because, obviously,
- 1862
- 01:18:46,112 --> 01:18:48,374
- it's a little bit
- of a dagger to my heart,
- 1863
- 01:18:48,375 --> 01:18:51,073
- because I was treating her
- and doing a really good job.
- 1864
- 01:18:51,074 --> 01:18:53,423
- And lo and behold,
- 1865
- 01:18:53,424 --> 01:18:57,296
- somebody's interest
- in becoming a "cannapreneur"
- 1866
- 01:18:57,297 --> 01:18:59,168
- got in the way of whatever,
- 1867
- 01:18:59,169 --> 01:19:00,691
- but that's
- a whole separate thing.
- 1868
- 01:19:00,692 --> 01:19:02,214
- As we say in Yiddish,
- "Zei gezunt"...
- 1869
- 01:19:02,215 --> 01:19:04,086
- Let them go in good health,
- you know?
- 1870
- 01:19:04,087 --> 01:19:05,609
- Mara, this is Jackie Green.
- 1871
- 01:19:05,610 --> 01:19:07,916
- TRACY: Now I have
- this incredible line
- 1872
- 01:19:07,917 --> 01:19:10,048
- of gold medicinal oils,
- 1873
- 01:19:10,049 --> 01:19:12,311
- actually,
- that I'm about to give Sophie.
- 1874
- 01:19:12,312 --> 01:19:16,359
- Our own strain called Isabella's
- Bloom, which is named after her.
- 1875
- 01:19:16,360 --> 01:19:18,927
- Mara has been generous,
- and I'm forever grateful to her
- 1876
- 01:19:18,928 --> 01:19:20,755
- for the knowledge
- that she's given me
- 1877
- 01:19:20,756 --> 01:19:23,583
- and for the assistance
- that she's given to my child.
- 1878
- 01:19:23,584 --> 01:19:25,498
- But why not make
- an incredible oil
- 1879
- 01:19:25,499 --> 01:19:28,023
- and give my daughter
- free medicine?
- 1880
- 01:19:28,024 --> 01:19:31,200
- - Are you guys doing indoor now?
- - No.
- 1881
- 01:19:31,201 --> 01:19:33,245
- Talking about
- the actual processing.
- 1882
- 01:19:33,246 --> 01:19:34,333
- Oh, oh, oh.
- 1883
- 01:19:34,334 --> 01:19:36,292
- TRACY: But it's... Yeah.
- 1884
- 01:19:36,293 --> 01:19:37,772
- It's not what it used to be.
- 1885
- 01:19:37,773 --> 01:19:39,469
- - Right.
- - Yeah.
- 1886
- 01:19:39,470 --> 01:19:42,689
- We do, in fact, promote
- whole plant extracts.
- 1887
- 01:19:42,690 --> 01:19:44,691
- You have to have
- the entourage effect.
- 1888
- 01:19:44,692 --> 01:19:47,433
- You have to have the synergy
- between the terpenes,
- 1889
- 01:19:47,434 --> 01:19:49,827
- the flavonoids, everything else
- that's in the plant,
- 1890
- 01:19:49,828 --> 01:19:52,743
- in addition to the cannabinoids
- that are in there.
- 1891
- 01:19:52,744 --> 01:19:55,137
- And even the cannabinoids
- working together
- 1892
- 01:19:55,138 --> 01:19:56,573
- have a synergistic effect.
- 1893
- 01:19:56,574 --> 01:19:58,401
- We must have clinical trials.
- 1894
- 01:19:58,402 --> 01:20:01,273
- It doesn't need to be
- in the hands of people like me.
- 1895
- 01:20:01,274 --> 01:20:02,927
- I'm glad that my software's
- gonna be able
- 1896
- 01:20:02,928 --> 01:20:04,842
- to put it into the hands
- for the clinical trials
- 1897
- 01:20:04,843 --> 01:20:06,844
- and the doctors and all.
- 1898
- 01:20:06,845 --> 01:20:09,673
- Unfortunately, California has
- a reputation of the Wild West,
- 1899
- 01:20:09,674 --> 01:20:12,981
- and I would say that
- without regulations there,
- 1900
- 01:20:12,982 --> 01:20:14,373
- it is kind of hard to practice.
- 1901
- 01:20:14,374 --> 01:20:15,984
- But what I'm gonna
- tell everybody
- 1902
- 01:20:15,985 --> 01:20:17,986
- is that my patients
- are getting medicine.
- 1903
- 01:20:17,987 --> 01:20:19,465
- My patients are getting better.
- 1904
- 01:20:19,466 --> 01:20:21,685
- My patients have better
- quality of life.
- 1905
- 01:20:21,686 --> 01:20:24,819
- And so it is imperative
- the rest of the country
- 1906
- 01:20:24,820 --> 01:20:26,646
- follows California.
- 1907
- 01:20:26,647 --> 01:20:29,171
- ♪♪
- 1908
- 01:20:29,172 --> 01:20:30,389
- - Eric Ruby.
- - Hi. Nice to meet you.
- 1909
- 01:20:30,390 --> 01:20:31,826
- I am a pediatrician in Taunton,
- 1910
- 01:20:31,827 --> 01:20:33,523
- which is about
- an hour south of here.
- 1911
- 01:20:33,524 --> 01:20:35,438
- - Oh, great.
- - I'm the only pediatrician
- 1912
- 01:20:35,439 --> 01:20:37,309
- in all of Massachusetts
- 1913
- 01:20:37,310 --> 01:20:40,182
- who is registered with
- the medicinal marijuana program.
- 1914
- 01:20:40,183 --> 01:20:41,792
- GOLDSTEIN: Good for you.
- 1915
- 01:20:41,793 --> 01:20:43,402
- - I am bombarded with patients.
- - Of course.
- 1916
- 01:20:43,403 --> 01:20:46,536
- - Mm-hmm.
- - I appreciate what you're doing.
- 1917
- 01:20:46,537 --> 01:20:50,975
- Please write something
- for the pediatric journals.
- 1918
- 01:20:50,976 --> 01:20:52,585
- - It's got to be there.
- - Yeah.
- 1919
- 01:20:52,586 --> 01:20:54,457
- And they've got to accept it.
- 1920
- 01:20:54,458 --> 01:20:56,415
- Pharmaceutical companies,
- I believe,
- 1921
- 01:20:56,416 --> 01:20:58,591
- are suppressing all of this.
- 1922
- 01:20:58,592 --> 01:21:01,159
- The impediments,
- the obstructions...
- 1923
- 01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,335
- I mean,
- I'm in practice 39 years.
- 1924
- 01:21:03,336 --> 01:21:05,468
- And the people who lose
- are the patients.
- 1925
- 01:21:05,469 --> 01:21:07,818
- GOLDSTEIN: Are the patients.
- Of course. Of course.
- 1926
- 01:21:07,819 --> 01:21:09,733
- [Grunting]
- 1927
- 01:21:09,734 --> 01:21:13,563
- ♪♪
- 1928
- 01:21:13,564 --> 01:21:14,912
- Ow!
- 1929
- 01:21:14,913 --> 01:21:17,001
- Ow. Okay, okay, okay.
- 1930
- 01:21:17,002 --> 01:21:19,961
- Forget about it!
- 1931
- 01:21:19,962 --> 01:21:23,051
- Gave our son, you know,
- 1932
- 01:21:23,052 --> 01:21:25,227
- eight months to live.
- 1933
- 01:21:25,228 --> 01:21:27,098
- [Voice breaking] So...
- 1934
- 01:21:27,099 --> 01:21:32,451
- ♪♪
- 1935
- 01:21:32,452 --> 01:21:35,411
- Aggravated, upset...
- [Clears throat]
- 1936
- 01:21:35,412 --> 01:21:37,065
- ...that we had
- to go through all of this
- 1937
- 01:21:37,066 --> 01:21:41,591
- to get, you know,
- some type of...
- 1938
- 01:21:41,592 --> 01:21:44,768
- ♪♪
- 1939
- 01:21:44,769 --> 01:21:48,772
- I guess some answer
- to whether if it works or not.
- 1940
- 01:21:48,773 --> 01:21:50,165
- Mm-hmm.
- 1941
- 01:21:50,166 --> 01:21:53,081
- We... We did what we could do,
- 1942
- 01:21:53,082 --> 01:21:55,083
- and that's what matters.
- 1943
- 01:21:55,084 --> 01:22:04,831
- ♪♪
- 1944
- 01:22:04,832 --> 01:22:14,580
- ♪♪
- 1945
- 01:22:14,581 --> 01:22:24,374
- ♪♪
- 1946
- 01:22:29,814 --> 01:22:32,120
- SMITH: Good morning!
- [Laughs]
- 1947
- 01:22:32,121 --> 01:22:33,860
- Oh, it's school day today.
- 1948
- 01:22:33,861 --> 01:22:35,514
- Are you excited?
- 1949
- 01:22:35,515 --> 01:22:37,734
- - No?
- - Oh, yeah!
- 1950
- 01:22:37,735 --> 01:22:39,866
- Oh, he's excited!
- 1951
- 01:22:39,867 --> 01:22:41,651
- ♪♪
- 1952
- 01:22:41,652 --> 01:22:43,827
- So, he's still on
- quite a big dose, really.
- 1953
- 01:22:43,828 --> 01:22:45,742
- He can have it
- before he goes to school.
- 1954
- 01:22:45,743 --> 01:22:49,572
- We wouldn't be sending him
- with his vaporizer to school.
- 1955
- 01:22:49,573 --> 01:22:52,575
- I just think if having
- this mixture every day
- 1956
- 01:22:52,576 --> 01:22:55,665
- increases his odds
- of not relapsing,
- 1957
- 01:22:55,666 --> 01:22:58,668
- then it's worth doing, isn't it?
- 1958
- 01:22:58,669 --> 01:23:01,758
- He's going to be
- a completely normal child.
- 1959
- 01:23:01,759 --> 01:23:04,761
- Aren't you? Starting with
- brushing your teeth.
- 1960
- 01:23:04,762 --> 01:23:06,850
- Come on. Go and get your teeth
- brushed quickly.
- 1961
- 01:23:06,851 --> 01:23:08,852
- We got to go.
- 1962
- 01:23:08,853 --> 01:23:11,028
- TEACHER: Ladies and gentlemen,
- we should always be welcoming
- 1963
- 01:23:11,029 --> 01:23:12,160
- when someone comes in.
- 1964
- 01:23:12,161 --> 01:23:14,031
- Is your name Chico?
- 1965
- 01:23:14,032 --> 01:23:15,815
- You can take an open seat.
- 1966
- 01:23:15,816 --> 01:23:17,339
- The next thing I have
- to talk about
- 1967
- 01:23:17,340 --> 01:23:18,862
- is reviewing the dress code.
- 1968
- 01:23:18,863 --> 01:23:21,169
- I had a couple of students
- last year
- 1969
- 01:23:21,170 --> 01:23:22,735
- who would wear clothing
- 1970
- 01:23:22,736 --> 01:23:25,173
- that had, like,
- a marijuana leaf on it.
- 1971
- 01:23:25,174 --> 01:23:27,218
- That is not school-appropriate.
- 1972
- 01:23:27,219 --> 01:23:29,351
- Once again, something that you
- wouldn't want to be caught with
- 1973
- 01:23:29,352 --> 01:23:33,703
- at school is something that
- should not be on your clothing.
- 1974
- 01:23:33,704 --> 01:23:35,052
- - Hey!
- - SMITH: Hey!
- 1975
- 01:23:35,053 --> 01:23:36,706
- Oh, my God. Look at you.
- 1976
- 01:23:36,707 --> 01:23:37,837
- Oh, yay!
- 1977
- 01:23:37,838 --> 01:23:39,230
- Oh, it's so good to see you.
- 1978
- 01:23:39,231 --> 01:23:41,145
- - You, too.
- - Look at you.
- 1979
- 01:23:41,146 --> 01:23:44,192
- Is it good stuff? We got it from
- a shop that had been busted.
- 1980
- 01:23:44,193 --> 01:23:45,889
- STEWART:
- Oh, there's no instructions?
- 1981
- 01:23:45,890 --> 01:23:47,456
- No, no instructions.
- 1982
- 01:23:47,457 --> 01:23:49,284
- SMITH: Chico came,
- and he's like, "Mum, Mum,
- 1983
- 01:23:49,285 --> 01:23:51,286
- I know what I want
- for my birthday."
- 1984
- 01:23:51,287 --> 01:23:53,549
- And he said,
- "I want grow equipment
- 1985
- 01:23:53,550 --> 01:23:56,726
- so I can set up my own grow
- and grow my own plants
- 1986
- 01:23:56,727 --> 01:23:59,555
- and make my own medicine
- with Mara."
- 1987
- 01:23:59,556 --> 01:24:01,296
- GORDON: Oh, right on.
- That's so cool.
- 1988
- 01:24:01,297 --> 01:24:05,126
- So, you'll have to come up to us
- and go into the lab
- 1989
- 01:24:05,127 --> 01:24:07,824
- and work with our chemist
- and actually make the medicine.
- 1990
- 01:24:07,825 --> 01:24:10,392
- That would be just
- absolutely fantastic.
- 1991
- 01:24:10,393 --> 01:24:12,046
- - Yeah.
- - Absolutely.
- 1992
- 01:24:12,047 --> 01:24:15,397
- And he said he wanted
- to dedicate his grow.
- 1993
- 01:24:15,398 --> 01:24:19,357
- My friend who had cancer
- 1994
- 01:24:19,358 --> 01:24:21,533
- the same time as me.
- 1995
- 01:24:21,534 --> 01:24:24,928
- And she didn't make it.
- 1996
- 01:24:24,929 --> 01:24:27,626
- But, um...
- 1997
- 01:24:27,627 --> 01:24:30,673
- we were really good friends.
- 1998
- 01:24:30,674 --> 01:24:32,066
- Yeah.
- 1999
- 01:24:32,067 --> 01:24:34,590
- It's very special.
- 2000
- 01:24:34,591 --> 01:24:36,244
- Gee, thanks. Make me cry.
- 2001
- 01:24:36,245 --> 01:24:37,462
- [Laughter]
- 2002
- 01:24:37,463 --> 01:24:40,030
- - Me, too.
- - Right.
- 2003
- 01:24:40,031 --> 01:24:42,685
- SMITH: If someone had told me
- that I would be buying
- 2004
- 01:24:42,686 --> 01:24:46,254
- my 14-year-old son
- cannabis-grow equipment
- 2005
- 01:24:46,255 --> 01:24:47,907
- for his birthday,
- 2006
- 01:24:47,908 --> 01:24:49,431
- I would have thought
- they were rather silly.
- 2007
- 01:24:49,432 --> 01:24:50,997
- GORDON: Absolutely.
- 2008
- 01:24:50,998 --> 01:24:53,217
- SMITH: It's funny how life
- is, isn't it?
- 2009
- 01:24:53,218 --> 01:24:55,306
- ♪♪
- 2010
- 01:24:55,307 --> 01:24:57,569
- And some of them drink a little
- more water than the other ones.
- 2011
- 01:24:57,570 --> 01:24:59,136
- These will get
- a little more bigger.
- 2012
- 01:24:59,137 --> 01:25:01,269
- Some of them will get,
- like, more fatter.
- 2013
- 01:25:01,270 --> 01:25:10,974
- ♪♪
- 2014
- 01:25:10,975 --> 01:25:12,323
- SMITH: We can have
- a grand opening.
- 2015
- 01:25:12,324 --> 01:25:14,282
- Well done, Chico!
- 2016
- 01:25:14,283 --> 01:25:15,631
- Thank you, Stewart.
- 2017
- 01:25:15,632 --> 01:25:18,286
- - Oh, yes.
- - My pleasure.
- 2018
- 01:25:18,287 --> 01:25:20,288
- MARA: She loves it, too.
- 2019
- 01:25:20,289 --> 01:25:21,854
- Oh, Chico.
- 2020
- 01:25:21,855 --> 01:25:24,335
- ♪♪
- 2021
- 01:25:24,336 --> 01:25:25,989
- CHICO: I'm writing
- to the President
- 2022
- 01:25:25,990 --> 01:25:29,645
- to help legalize
- cannabis oil for kids
- 2023
- 01:25:29,646 --> 01:25:32,822
- so they don't have to go through
- what I went through.
- 2024
- 01:25:32,823 --> 01:25:36,565
- It makes me sad
- and kind of confused,
- 2025
- 01:25:36,566 --> 01:25:41,091
- because I don't get
- why they can't have it
- 2026
- 01:25:41,092 --> 01:25:43,006
- if it really helps them.
- 2027
- 01:25:43,007 --> 01:25:48,316
- ♪♪
- 2028
- 01:25:48,317 --> 01:25:50,144
- GUPTA: United States government,
- 2029
- 01:25:50,145 --> 01:25:52,102
- through its Department of Heath
- and Human Services,
- 2030
- 01:25:52,103 --> 01:25:56,324
- holds a patent on marijuana
- as a protectant for the brain.
- 2031
- 01:25:56,325 --> 01:25:58,587
- And it's something to protect
- the brain after head injuries.
- 2032
- 01:25:58,588 --> 01:26:01,024
- How is that possible that the
- U.S. Government holds a patent?
- 2033
- 01:26:01,025 --> 01:26:03,200
- The U.S. Government holds
- a patent, on one hand,
- 2034
- 01:26:03,201 --> 01:26:05,463
- and on the other hand,
- same government
- 2035
- 01:26:05,464 --> 01:26:07,291
- says it has
- no medical application.
- 2036
- 01:26:07,292 --> 01:26:09,641
- Journalists, I think,
- are trained to hate hypocrisy.
- 2037
- 01:26:09,642 --> 01:26:11,208
- This is hypocrisy...
- 2038
- 01:26:11,209 --> 01:26:13,819
- Just... I've never seen it
- quite like this.
- 2039
- 01:26:13,820 --> 01:26:15,473
- O'LEARY-RANDALL: Why does
- the federal government,
- 2040
- 01:26:15,474 --> 01:26:18,128
- the federal government,
- hold patents
- 2041
- 01:26:18,129 --> 01:26:21,044
- on the various
- ingredients of marijuana
- 2042
- 01:26:21,045 --> 01:26:23,351
- if they don't think
- it has medical value?
- 2043
- 01:26:23,352 --> 01:26:26,702
- And why should the federal
- government be looking to benefit
- 2044
- 01:26:26,703 --> 01:26:30,749
- from future medical use
- of cannabis products
- 2045
- 01:26:30,750 --> 01:26:33,143
- because they have these patents?
- 2046
- 01:26:33,144 --> 01:26:34,927
- This is unconscionable.
- 2047
- 01:26:34,928 --> 01:26:37,800
- It's just unconscionable
- the positions they've taken.
- 2048
- 01:26:37,801 --> 01:26:39,454
- And meanwhile,
- they keep denying,
- 2049
- 01:26:39,455 --> 01:26:42,500
- and they keep denying,
- and they keep denying.
- 2050
- 01:26:42,501 --> 01:26:44,372
- It's cruel.
- 2051
- 01:26:44,373 --> 01:26:46,112
- And years from now,
- in the future,
- 2052
- 01:26:46,113 --> 01:26:49,899
- people will look back
- on this time and marvel,
- 2053
- 01:26:49,900 --> 01:26:51,683
- marvel at how cruel we've been.
- 2054
- 01:26:51,684 --> 01:26:54,164
- The whole idea of,
- "There's not enough research,"
- 2055
- 01:26:54,165 --> 01:26:56,079
- is actually true.
- There's not enough.
- 2056
- 01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,342
- But there's enough research
- for me to know,
- 2057
- 01:26:58,343 --> 01:27:01,389
- one, it happens to be
- a very safe medication,
- 2058
- 01:27:01,390 --> 01:27:03,217
- and, two, it works.
- 2059
- 01:27:03,218 --> 01:27:06,132
- The whole drug issue,
- the drug policy reform issue,
- 2060
- 01:27:06,133 --> 01:27:08,091
- is a human-rights issue
- at its core.
- 2061
- 01:27:08,092 --> 01:27:12,748
- The hope is the use of cannabis
- becomes de-politicized
- 2062
- 01:27:12,749 --> 01:27:16,795
- and appropriately integrated
- into health, medicinal,
- 2063
- 01:27:16,796 --> 01:27:20,277
- wellness, spiritual,
- human cultural systems,
- 2064
- 01:27:20,278 --> 01:27:24,194
- as it has always been
- for thousands of years.
- 2065
- 01:27:24,195 --> 01:27:26,109
- LATCH: Right, mate.
- 2066
- 01:27:26,110 --> 01:27:27,937
- Let's put your jacket on.
- 2067
- 01:27:27,938 --> 01:27:31,070
- ♪♪
- 2068
- 01:27:31,071 --> 01:27:33,159
- Go on. Zip it up.
- 2069
- 01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:34,987
- Now, have you been
- on a bike before?
- 2070
- 01:27:34,988 --> 01:27:37,251
- - Um, a dirt bike.
- - Okay.
- 2071
- 01:27:37,252 --> 01:27:40,906
- SMITH: When Chico got sick,
- this friend of ours, Latch,
- 2072
- 01:27:40,907 --> 01:27:43,082
- kept sending him messages
- on Facebook saying,
- 2073
- 01:27:43,083 --> 01:27:46,042
- "I'm gonna be taking you for a
- ride on the back of the Harley."
- 2074
- 01:27:46,043 --> 01:27:49,175
- It just so happens
- that today is the day,
- 2075
- 01:27:49,176 --> 01:27:50,786
- which didn't seem like
- 2076
- 01:27:50,787 --> 01:27:52,744
- it was ever gonna be
- possible at one point.
- 2077
- 01:27:52,745 --> 01:27:55,225
- The louder you scream and shout,
- the faster we go.
- 2078
- 01:27:55,226 --> 01:27:57,445
- [Laughter]
- 2079
- 01:27:57,446 --> 01:28:01,449
- ♪♪
- 2080
- 01:28:01,450 --> 01:28:03,102
- Any last words, Mum?
- 2081
- 01:28:03,103 --> 01:28:04,713
- I think I'm more scared
- than he is.
- 2082
- 01:28:04,714 --> 01:28:07,629
- LATCH: "Bring my boy back."
- 2083
- 01:28:07,630 --> 01:28:09,370
- Yeah, have fun. Enjoy yourself.
- 2084
- 01:28:09,371 --> 01:28:10,936
- You've earned this ride, Chico.
- 2085
- 01:28:10,937 --> 01:28:13,287
- - Oh, yeah.
- - You really have.
- 2086
- 01:28:13,288 --> 01:28:15,376
- ♪♪
- 2087
- 01:28:15,377 --> 01:28:17,116
- [Engine starts]
- 2088
- 01:28:17,117 --> 01:28:20,729
- Do you want to give it
- a quick rev?
- 2089
- 01:28:20,730 --> 01:28:24,080
- [Engine revs]
- 2090
- 01:28:24,081 --> 01:28:25,690
- See you in a bit.
- 2091
- 01:28:25,691 --> 01:28:34,395
- ♪♪
- 2092
- 01:28:34,396 --> 01:28:43,055
- ♪♪
- 2093
- 01:28:43,056 --> 01:28:51,499
- ♪♪
- 2094
- 01:28:51,500 --> 01:28:54,502
- [Laughter]
- 2095
- 01:28:54,503 --> 01:28:58,114
- ♪♪
- 2096
- 01:28:58,115 --> 01:29:00,682
- [Laughter]
- 2097
- 01:29:00,683 --> 01:29:03,772
- [Indistinct conversations]
- 2098
- 01:29:03,773 --> 01:29:06,165
- [Laughs]
- 2099
- 01:29:06,166 --> 01:29:08,603
- WOMAN: [Over P.A.]
- Alexander Kephart!
- 2100
- 01:29:08,604 --> 01:29:11,170
- [Cheers and applause]
- 2101
- 01:29:11,171 --> 01:29:17,394
- ♪♪
- 2102
- 01:29:17,395 --> 01:29:23,749
- ♪♪
- 2103
- 01:29:27,623 --> 01:29:30,668
- ♪♪
- 2104
- 01:29:30,669 --> 01:29:32,061
- ♪ Mm ♪
- 2105
- 01:29:32,062 --> 01:29:34,280
- - A muffin.
- - A muffin?
- 2106
- 01:29:34,281 --> 01:29:35,891
- ♪ Mm ♪
- 2107
- 01:29:35,892 --> 01:29:38,197
- [Indistinct conversations]
- 2108
- 01:29:38,198 --> 01:29:41,810
- ♪♪
- 2109
- 01:29:41,811 --> 01:29:44,465
- I think I see
- them flies around here.
- 2110
- 01:29:44,466 --> 01:29:46,597
- ♪ Ah, ah ♪
- 2111
- 01:29:46,598 --> 01:29:52,168
- ♪♪
- 2112
- 01:29:52,169 --> 01:29:55,780
- ♪ Millions displaced
- by hurricanes ♪
- 2113
- 01:29:55,781 --> 01:29:58,870
- ♪ Islanders fear the clouds
- and rains ♪
- 2114
- 01:29:58,871 --> 01:30:03,701
- ♪ There's no place else to go ♪
- 2115
- 01:30:03,702 --> 01:30:06,269
- ♪♪
- 2116
- 01:30:06,270 --> 01:30:09,620
- ♪ This is our home,
- the only one ♪
- 2117
- 01:30:09,621 --> 01:30:14,712
- ♪ It should be clear
- what must be done by now ♪
- 2118
- 01:30:14,713 --> 01:30:19,630
- ♪ I'm sure we know ♪
- 2119
- 01:30:19,631 --> 01:30:22,111
- ♪ Ah, ah ♪
- 2120
- 01:30:22,112 --> 01:30:26,681
- ♪♪
- 2121
- 01:30:26,682 --> 01:30:29,118
- ♪ Our home ♪
- 2122
- 01:30:29,119 --> 01:30:33,688
- ♪♪
- 2123
- 01:30:33,689 --> 01:30:36,168
- ♪ Ah, ah ♪
- 2124
- 01:30:36,169 --> 01:30:40,782
- ♪♪
- 2125
- 01:30:40,783 --> 01:30:43,219
- ♪ Our home ♪
- 2126
- 01:30:43,220 --> 01:30:48,485
- ♪♪
- 2127
- 01:30:48,486 --> 01:30:52,141
- ♪ We're out of time,
- the world's on fire ♪
- 2128
- 01:30:52,142 --> 01:30:55,318
- ♪ No time to wait
- to get inspired ♪
- 2129
- 01:30:55,319 --> 01:31:00,758
- ♪ We've crossed
- the finish line ♪
- 2130
- 01:31:00,759 --> 01:31:02,760
- ♪♪
- 2131
- 01:31:02,761 --> 01:31:06,242
- ♪ We've got to move,
- we've got to fly ♪
- 2132
- 01:31:06,243 --> 01:31:09,332
- ♪ We've got to act,
- we've got to try ♪
- 2133
- 01:31:09,333 --> 01:31:15,338
- ♪ We're out of stallin' time ♪
- 2134
- 01:31:15,339 --> 01:31:19,211
- ♪♪
- 2135
- 01:31:19,212 --> 01:31:22,258
- ♪ We're still in time ♪
- 2136
- 01:31:22,259 --> 01:31:26,218
- ♪♪
- 2137
- 01:31:26,219 --> 01:31:29,483
- ♪ We're still in time ♪
- 2138
- 01:31:29,484 --> 01:31:33,530
- ♪♪
- 2139
- 01:31:33,531 --> 01:31:37,708
- ♪ We're still in time ♪
- 2140
- 01:31:37,709 --> 01:31:41,190
- ♪ Mm ♪
- 2141
- 01:31:41,191 --> 01:31:49,807
- ♪♪
- 2142
- 01:31:49,808 --> 01:31:58,642
- ♪♪
- 2143
- 01:31:58,643 --> 01:32:04,343
- ♪♪
- 2144
- 01:32:04,344 --> 01:32:09,827
- ♪♪
- 2145
- 01:32:09,828 --> 01:32:13,309
- ♪ When are we going
- to understand ♪
- 2146
- 01:32:13,310 --> 01:32:18,619
- ♪ All that's alive
- is in our hands? ♪
- 2147
- 01:32:18,620 --> 01:32:24,015
- ♪ Mm, mm ♪
- 2148
- 01:32:24,016 --> 01:32:27,410
- ♪ When are we going
- to understand ♪
- 2149
- 01:32:27,411 --> 01:32:32,720
- ♪ All that's alive
- is in our hands? ♪
- 2150
- 01:32:32,721 --> 01:32:38,247
- ♪♪
- 2151
- 01:32:38,248 --> 01:32:39,901
- ♪ Time ♪
- 2152
- 01:32:39,902 --> 01:32:43,992
- ♪♪
- 2153
- 01:32:43,993 --> 01:32:46,647
- ♪ We're still in time ♪
- 2154
- 01:32:46,648 --> 01:32:51,042
- ♪♪
- 2155
- 01:32:51,043 --> 01:32:54,785
- ♪ We're still in time ♪
- 2156
- 01:32:54,786 --> 01:32:58,093
- ♪ Mm ♪
- 2157
- 01:32:58,094 --> 01:33:02,750
- ♪ We're still in time ♪
- 2158
- 01:33:02,751 --> 01:33:06,449
- ♪ Mm ♪
- 2159
- 01:33:06,450 --> 01:33:12,629
- ♪♪
- 2160
- 01:33:12,630 --> 01:33:15,240
- ♪ Ah, ah ♪
- 2161
- 01:33:15,241 --> 01:33:19,636
- ♪♪
- 2162
- 01:33:19,637 --> 01:33:23,509
- ♪ We're still in time ♪
- 2163
- 01:33:23,510 --> 01:33:26,251
- ♪ Mm ♪
- 2164
- 01:33:26,252 --> 01:33:30,908
- ♪ We're still in time ♪
- 2165
- 01:33:30,909 --> 01:33:34,651
- ♪ Mm ♪
- 2166
- 01:33:34,652 --> 01:33:39,569
- ♪ Mm ♪
- 2167
- 01:33:39,570 --> 01:33:44,009
- ♪♪
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