(6:02 PM)   Marcus just sent you a nudge.
(6:02 PM) Marcus:   zav
talk to kevin about FBI
(6:03 PM) Cheetos:  Is he saying somethign.
something*?
(6:03 PM) Marcus:   dunno
i'll go in game and tell him
(6:03 PM) Cheetos:  k
(6:06 PM) Cheetos:  tehpwnor@hotmail.com was added to this conversation. Handwriting is no longer supported because not all participants can view handwritten messages. Handwritten messages will be sent as text.
(6:06 PM) Cheetos:  Hmmmmmmmmmmm
(6:08 PM) Marcus:   hmmmmmmmmmm
(6:08 PM) jeff: yo
(6:09 PM) Cheetos:  Sup
(6:09 PM) jeff: hi
what do you wanna talk about
(6:09 PM)   Marcus just sent you a nudge.
(6:09 PM) Cheetos:  FBI?
(6:10 PM) jeff: and what do you want exactly
(6:10 PM) Cheetos:  I thought Marcus told oyu
you*
(6:10 PM) Ace:  He wants his faction back.
(6:12 PM) Marcus:   zav negro
(6:12 PM)   Marcus just sent you a nudge.
(6:13 PM) jeff: yo
zohan get out of here
(6:14 PM) Marcus:   Zohan wants to tell me what happened
He's here as support for Kevin
(6:14 PM) jeff: tell him and leave
(6:14 PM) Cheetos:  Can you bring Jack Francis too?
(6:14 PM) Marcus:   Sure
and Melvin
(6:14 PM) Cheetos:  He's idle, nvm
(6:14 PM)   n_scatchell@hotmail.com has been added to the conversation.
(6:14 PM)   Jack Francis has been added to the conversation.
(6:14 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  hello
(6:15 PM) Marcus:   hi
(6:15 PM) Jack Francis: Hiyo
(6:15 PM) Marcus:   this is the kevin hawk leadership of FBI debate
jacob=francis
(6:15 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  ok
(6:15 PM) Cheetos:  Hmm
(6:16 PM) Marcus:   so francis
how come you told me melvin invited sam green
(6:16 PM) Jack Francis: I said he made him Director.
(6:16 PM) Marcus:   Melvin said he didn't
(6:16 PM) jeff: err melvin hasn't logged in for 3 days
(6:16 PM) Jack Francis: If he didn't, whoever did
Shouldn't have.
(6:16 PM) Cheetos:  At first he was given rank 3, with leadership privileges
(6:16 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  I've been at a music festival
since friday
(6:16 PM) Cheetos:  refused to quitfaction
(6:16 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  got back yesterday
(6:16 PM) Marcus:   Ok
(6:16 PM) Cheetos:  even when I brought Zohan
(6:17 PM) Marcus:   Who invited him isn't the problem
(6:17 PM) jeff: no
he didn't have leadership
(6:17 PM) Cheetos:  He did
want screenshots?
(6:17 PM) Marcus:   I was just told Kevin got his leadership taken after Sam Green whined to zav
(6:17 PM) Ace:  He had leadership Zav.
(6:17 PM) jeff: he had leadership because you uninvited him
thought you were referring to a week ago
(6:17 PM) Cheetos:  I uninvited him because he made a compaint against me with fake evidence
in an attempt to gain control over the faction
too bad forums are down, but Jack Francis can approve it
(6:17 PM) Jack Francis: Mm.
(6:18 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  I wanna see this complaint lol
what is it about?
(6:18 PM) jeff: me too
(6:18 PM) Cheetos:  I was RPing with him
So I aimed my gun to set my position somewhere
(6:18 PM) Cheetos:  to /robman and RPly put my hand on his shoulder
So he took a screenshot with no text, just me aiming
and claimed that it was before I DMed him
(6:19 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  lmao
(6:19 PM) Cheetos:  exactly
(6:19 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  wait so you were taken out of FBI for that?
(6:19 PM) Cheetos:  I guess so
Someone gave Sam privileges
and he refused to quitfaction
when I brought Zohan
(6:19 PM) Cheetos:  And I totally believe he invited Keif Mo on an alt, but I caught Keif
he said he had that account ages ago
Dunno
(6:20 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  um
(6:20 PM) jeff: why did you aim a gun at sam, just curious
(6:20 PM) Cheetos:  I thought you told me that I had full control over my faction Melvin
I aimed a gun at sam
to set my position
as you know
San Andreas controls are gay
(6:20 PM) Cheetos:  you cannot get to your certain position without aiming ur gun
unless you keep walking around in circles for 829749234 hours
(6:21 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  I want to get Sam Green in this convo + wanna see this complaint because recently FBI has been shit.  Thomas had it for about 1-2 weeks and then he just randomly gave it to you
(6:21 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  then you invited Keaton Ryder and someother guy and they both got banned later on
(6:21 PM) Marcus:   wow
keaton ryder?
(6:21 PM) Cheetos:  Keaton was Thomas' suggestion
(6:21 PM) Marcus:   I hate that little bitch
(6:21 PM) Cheetos:  Also, he told me Marcus wanted him
(6:21 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  ^
(6:21 PM) Ace:  Keaton was invited by THomas.
(6:21 PM) Jack Francis: Keaton Ryder was from Thomas ya
(6:21 PM) Marcus:   Well, the thing is, Thomas was a faggot
(6:21 PM) Cheetos:  Thomas told me you wanted him, Marcus
(6:21 PM) Marcus:   No
Is Keaton currently on the server?
(6:21 PM) Cheetos:  No
(6:21 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  no
(6:21 PM) Cheetos:  He's banned
(6:21 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  banned
(6:21 PM) Cheetos:  so is his friend
(6:21 PM) Marcus:   lol
(6:21 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  for being totaal dogshit
(6:22 PM) Marcus:   what'd they get banned for
(6:22 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  I think the kid hacked
it was after he got kicked from FBI
(6:22 PM) Marcus:   I see
what a bitch
(6:22 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  ya
he's shit
(6:22 PM) jeff: err kevin
(6:22 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  irl and ig
(6:22 PM) Jack Francis: Keaton was running around killing cops is all I know about him.
(6:22 PM) Cheetos:  Thomas kicked Keaton after he saw him fucking around
(6:22 PM) jeff: sam told me you aimed a gun at him for not closing case files
(6:22 PM) Cheetos:  Then keaton started DMing me, got prisoned, and prolly raged
(6:22 PM) jeff: so are you lying to us or something
(6:22 PM) Cheetos:  Lol
I am?
Jack Francis, you there?
(6:22 PM) Jack Francis: Mhm
(6:22 PM) Cheetos:  Did the screenshot Sam Green post contain any text?
(6:23 PM) Jack Francis: Nope
(6:23 PM) Cheetos:  Did he include ANY other evidence of me shooting him?
(6:23 PM) Jack Francis: He f10d
Nope
(6:23 PM) jeff: wait a minute
(6:23 PM) Cheetos:  I guess that's your answer.
(6:23 PM) jeff: did you aim a gun at him
(6:23 PM) Jack Francis: There was no proof of shooting, planning to shoot, or after shooting.
The aiming was to set his position.
(6:23 PM) Cheetos:  I did NOT aim at him, I aimed to set my position freely
The exact same thing you do when you attempt to sit on a chair
(6:23 PM) Marcus:   I hate it when people take screenshots out of context eh
(6:23 PM) Cheetos:  Specially when he claims I DMed him, with no proof of me killing him.
Nor shooting 1 single bullet
(6:24 PM) Marcus:   Yeah, people do that all the time
(6:24 PM) Cheetos:  INDEED I did shout at him ICly for not closing casefiles
(6:24 PM) jeff: hmm
(6:24 PM) Cheetos:  but I never aimed a gun AT him
I did it to set my position, for the 239843297th time
(6:24 PM) jeff: sam told me you aimed a gun at him and threatened him
(6:24 PM) Ace:  Just to tell you guys, when Kevin logged at the same day that we has asking me for help... Sam Green and this Gregory guy was talking about taking over the FBI.
(6:25 PM) Cheetos:  Oh really
HE said I DMed him earlier
Now he says I threatened him
(6:25 PM) Ace:  lol
(6:25 PM) Cheetos:  Next time he'll say I raped him IRL for not complying with me
(6:25 PM) Marcus:   Well if there's no screen of what Kevin's saying, then I believe Kevin
(6:25 PM) Jack Francis: Mhm
(6:25 PM) Ace:  Same here.
(6:26 PM) Jack Francis: I was going to speak to Sam and probably prison him, but the forums went down and I sort of needed the sses.
(6:26 PM) Cheetos:  He was going to get prisoned for faking evidence
(6:26 PM) Marcus:   I don't think it's fair that the faction gets taken from Kevin to be given to Sam without a discussion either.
(6:26 PM) Marcus:   What do you think, zav?
(6:26 PM) Ace:  That's what I was asking about, then Zav and David told me that it was discussed during the admin meeting.
(6:27 PM) jeff: i dont really care about any of this drama going on with fbi, i want fbi to retain its elite status
fbi is just another pd faction
(6:27 PM) Cheetos:  FBI is just another PD faction because Ziggy wants it to be like this
He didn't want FBI to make cases
nor use a ranks system
(6:27 PM) jeff: err
(6:27 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  ziggy is the type of guy that always wants more RP
(6:27 PM)   amcrete@gmail.com has been added to the conversation.
(6:27 PM) jeff: ziggy
(6:27 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  he's more of the heavy-RP guy
so you're wrong bro
(6:27 PM) Cheetos:  He wanted us to patrol IG, and IF IN ANY CHANCE a case comes in our way, we do it
Else, we don't go search for cases
(6:28 PM) Z:    what is this
(6:28 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  LOL
hahahah
ziggy
(6:28 PM) jeff: ziggy is it true that you don't want fbi to have case files
y/n
(6:28 PM) Z:    what?? n
fuck
you guys are stupid
(6:28 PM) jeff: what is thine thesis
(6:28 PM) Z:    About what
(6:28 PM) jeff: fbi having casefiles
(6:29 PM) Z:    Case files are the shit
(6:29 PM) Cheetos:  ^
(6:29 PM) Z:    But they shouldn't start from 0001 because that looks like absolute ass
We can't build a whole federal litany of files
(6:30 PM) Z:    It's safe to assume that feds have operated in San Andreas from the years of 1910ish (around the time of the conception of the FBI) until modern day (2010 for some reason in SA:MP) so we should start with a higher number
I disagreed with Hawk's idea that Feds should start as UC and have to do a ton of case files
(6:30 PM) Z:    (Kevin Hawk: WHAAAAAAA 3 ISNT A LOT WHINE WHINE)
dont even say it
So anyway
(6:31 PM) Cheetos:  My idea is to get them trained on how to do a casefile first.
Then get them to go on duty
(6:31 PM) Z:    That's not really how it works
(6:31 PM) Cheetos:  Not everybody who applies is a pro casefile maker
(6:31 PM) jeff: then maybe they shouldnt be fbi (???)
(6:31 PM) Z:    They're more likely to make an apt case-file as a on-duty fed. Your problem is you think that information is inaccessible with a light-blue name.
And you are sorely mistaken
(6:32 PM) Cheetos:  I do think it is, indeed it will be a little harder
but my idea is to see how do they work first
(6:32 PM) Z:    Who is who?
(6:32 PM) Marcus:   aint FBI names pinkish
(6:32 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  i'm melvin
(6:32 PM) Jack Francis: That's LSFMD
(6:32 PM) Z:    thanks idiot
(6:32 PM) Jack Francis: Nub xD
(6:32 PM) Cheetos:  Lol
(6:32 PM) Marcus:   I know that
(6:32 PM) jeff: am robbe danns
(6:32 PM) Z:    (idiot = melvin)
(6:32 PM) Cheetos:  I myself had to make above 8 casefiles in order to successfully make a good one  from the first time
(6:32 PM) Marcus:   But FBI's like pinkish blue
newbs
like the color of the FBI jackets
(6:32 PM) jeff: navy blue
(6:32 PM) Cheetos:  fbi is light violet
noobs
(6:32 PM) Marcus:   I mean, that's more purple
yeah
(6:33 PM) Z:    I'd say navy blue... it's a tactical choice
(6:33 PM) Marcus:   ye
(6:33 PM) Cheetos:  Anyways, back to our point
(6:33 PM) Cheetos:  I spoke to Melvin about casefiles too, we made an agreement to set them to 2 not 3
(6:33 PM) Z:    Who are you Cheetos?
(6:33 PM) Cheetos:  Kevin
(6:34 PM) Z:    fff awesome
Yea
(6:34 PM) Z:    But no
That's all wrong
They shouldn't start UC at all
That's what I've been trying to tell you
(6:34 PM) Cheetos:  They start UC to learn the ropes, they become public when they're agents
(6:34 PM) Z:    They should start FBI as on-duty and collect information in ways that are legitimate and law abiding, not devious, underhanded, and secretive
(6:34 PM) Cheetos:  You don't see FBI interns patrolling around irl do you?
(6:34 PM) Z:    Yea
No idiot, they work at a desk and file paperwork
(6:35 PM) Z:    Less likely to see them as part of an udnercover gang unit
(6:35 PM) Cheetos:  If you want me to lock them up at the FBI HQ, I totally agree :P
(6:35 PM) Z:    Actually as it were, an FBI director wouldn't even necessarily be on-site
And if he were he would rarely, if ever, be seen in public
How real do you wanna go? I can convince you to take it to a 'real boring' level
(6:35 PM) Jack Francis: Kevin should go live in Chilliad, away from civilization.
(6:35 PM) Z:    But I'm telling you what I think will work
(6:35 PM) Jack Francis: Cmon Kevin.
(6:35 PM) Cheetos:  LOL JACK
(6:36 PM) Z:    as the hitman director on SZR I spent 95% of my time in a Shamal miles above SA
So that option actually isn't that unreasonable
(6:36 PM) Cheetos:  Ziggy dude, what's the problem with going UC, making goddamn 2 casefiles just to prove you're trustworthy of being on duty, and that you could RP on casefiles well
(6:36 PM) Z:    If you're coming from the LSPD as an experienced officer, like a transfer (in the case of Sam Green)
It's ass backwards to send him back to the streets
(6:37 PM) Cheetos:  Sam Green wasn't even my choice
(6:37 PM) Z:    And try to make him go undercover
If anything
(6:37 PM) Cheetos:  I was forced to have him and Keif in my faction
And you know it
(6:37 PM) Z:    It should be a case-by-case basis
(6:37 PM) Cheetos:  And Zav knows it
(6:37 PM) Z:    Yea no doubt
(6:37 PM) Cheetos:  So does Melvin
I got told if they fuck up, fire them
(6:37 PM) Z:    Yea we suggested you put them in because you're a dump
(6:37 PM) Cheetos:  Keif was all day with governor, being corrupt, protecting the governor's criminal acts
smoking shit, etc.
(6:37 PM) Cheetos:  Sam as you might of heard, faked some evidence to get me fired
but he failed, so he got uninvited
now he got the faction
(6:38 PM) jeff: I believe that information was metagamed.
(6:38 PM) Cheetos:  and Keif's assistant
(6:38 PM) Cheetos:  Rocco Zaio got fair evidence
Ask him for it
(6:38 PM) Z:    alright so are we over constructive FBI talk? If this is Kevin's rant now I'm gonna get bored quick
(6:39 PM) Z:    Here's what's up
Here's how it should be done
(6:39 PM) Z:    I just thought of this and I'm cursing myself for not being such a genius initially
(6:39 PM) Cheetos:  Well I'm trying to get my faction which got taken away for no obvious reason
(6:39 PM) Z:    Bro
(6:39 PM) Cheetos:  And given away to some guy who faked an evidence
to get me fired
(6:39 PM) Z:    so you should do something about it in-character!
Maybe like...
captain norrington in pirates of the carribean
(6:40 PM) Z:    You can go crazy and let your hair get all frizzly
And then join a crew of buccaneers!
(6:40 PM) Cheetos:  Why should I go rage ICly about it while it all happened OOCly
and brb
The guy cried to Melvin and now he got it
and brb again
(6:40 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  ?
who
(6:40 PM) Cheetos:  Sam Green
(6:40 PM) Z:    honest goddamn answer, Kevin Hawk? HE'S MORE CAPABLE THAN YOU ARE
(6:40 PM) Cheetos:  or who ever he cried to
(6:40 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  I never invited or kicked anyone out of the faction
(6:40 PM) Jack Francis: Melvy didn't give.
(6:40 PM) Marcus:   Here's what's going to happen.
(6:41 PM) Jack Francis: Sam Green shouldn't have gotten.
(6:41 PM) Marcus:   I think it's not fair Kevin got kicked out for no reason
without discussion.
(6:41 PM) Jack Francis: Only Melvy is able to hire new guys, and fire.
(6:41 PM) Marcus:   I'm sick of his whining also.
And other players whining too.
(6:41 PM) jeff: so we're just going to hire foreigners into fbi
(6:42 PM) Marcus:   We will give Kevin the faction back, provided he maintains it and doesn't fuck up.
(6:42 PM) Z:    yo check it, sorry to interrupt
aw shit
Well
If we have Sam and Kevin in the same faction shit is gonna go south again
So that's bad
But anyways
Check it
(6:42 PM) Cheetos:  Sir
(6:42 PM) Z:    For new feds
(6:42 PM) Cheetos:  Sam isn't going to be in the faction if I lead it
(6:42 PM) Z:    It needs to be a case-by-case basis with new agents
exaCTLY
(6:42 PM) Cheetos:  it's my final desicion, he faked evidence
(6:42 PM) Z:    So see, we're already at a stopping point
(6:42 PM) Cheetos:  and he was fired for it
(6:42 PM) Marcus:   Zav, most of our players are foreign
(6:42 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  lol
(6:42 PM) Cheetos:  and brb, gimme 30 minutes, food
(6:42 PM) Marcus:   So what're you trying to say about a foreign FBI faction?
lol
(6:43 PM) Z:    He wouldn't be the first person to get away with corruptly forging information, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's less legitimate
(6:43 PM) jeff: not sam psylon:
(6:43 PM) Marcus:   I said most of our players are foreign
(6:43 PM) Jack Francis: He faked evidence for an OOC complaint, Zig.
(6:43 PM) Jack Francis: Claiming Kevin DMed him and shit.
(6:44 PM) Z:    I gotta go soon I'm headed to SF but check it: don't really know or care about the drama
I've been gone for it
But check it
For new feds:
don't start them UC
but don't necessarily start them on duty, either
Case-by-case
(6:44 PM) Z:    Don't restrict certain ranks to certain things... every person should have a personalized sort of a task
IE there can be an Intern that is ON DUTY
(6:44 PM) Z:    But there can be a Special Agent (rank 4) off duty
not any of this bullshit "ranks 0-3 = OFF DUTY UC CASEFILES" "4-6 = SUPERCP LOLZ"
(6:45 PM) Z:    if someone is transferred from the LSPD? they should be allowed to wear the FBI jacket and patrol immediately, because they already know law enforcement from that angle
(6:46 PM) Z:    alternatively, if someone like Lloyd Christmas - who LOVES doing UC work
Gets into the FBI without ever being a well-known LSPD officer or something?
Then by all means, he can remain UC for his entire career if he wants"
quotes
(6:46 PM) Ace:  Good point Ziggy.
(6:46 PM) Z:    So yea, don't make it based on rank
I've been trying to figure out what was ass-backwards about the FBI for weeks
and that's it
The bogus rank-restrictions
(6:47 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  What about Sam Green leading US timezone and Kevin Hawk EU
(6:47 PM) jeff: yeah
(6:47 PM) Z:    anger on at least hawk's behalf. I think Sam might be able to be mature about it
But I'm expecting them to get in to it over /r over something
(6:47 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  If you guys can grow the fuck up and be mature, you can both do an awesome job together
(6:47 PM) Z:    And then more drama
So no
(6:48 PM) Jack Francis: Sam's corrupt anyway..
(6:48 PM) Ace:  I understand Kevin's side on that opinion Melvin.
(6:48 PM) jeff: i doubt that'd happen
(6:48 PM) Ace:  Sam tried to overrule Kevin using fake evidences.
(6:48 PM) jeff: we're done talking about that
we're doing whats best for the faction
(6:48 PM) Marcus:   ^
(6:48 PM) Ace:  Well, I'm just saying, with that done, things won't work out for both of them.
(6:48 PM) jeff: we could assign both of them different tasks such as undercover going to kevin
or something like that
(6:48 PM) Z:    solution: step 1: stfu. step 2: disband fbi. step 3: drop them back in LSPD and see who does the most profoundly awesome job at improving it
In a few weeks? We'll take a look at a new FBI
(6:49 PM) jeff: i think i'll do that
(6:49 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  FBI is an awesome faction though
(6:49 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  Like I said
(6:49 PM) Ace:  Yeah, "They rushed inside the bank and DMed"
lol
(6:49 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  if you guys were both mature and didn't fight it would be awesome
(6:49 PM) Z:    implement SZR's oldschool rank 4 'detective' idea for a while. I liked that
for LSPD
(6:50 PM) Z:    they can take the role of UC casefiles and stuff for the time being
fuck FBI
too much drama
(6:50 PM) Marcus:   Hmm
(6:50 PM) jeff: detective rank for lspd
(6:50 PM) Marcus:   Nah, FBI's staying
(6:50 PM) Z:    if FBI stays, drama will stay. that's all I'm saying./
(6:50 PM) Marcus:   LSPD can already go undercover
(6:50 PM) jeff: they shouldnt be able to though
(6:50 PM) Marcus:   Why?
(6:51 PM) Z:    right but there's not a rank especially for people that enjoy going UC and RPing that way
(6:51 PM) Marcus:   Cops can go undercover IRL
(6:51 PM) Jack Francis: LSPD can go undercover IRL  ^
(6:51 PM) Z:    Marcus is right
(6:51 PM) jeff: then we can add a detective rank
(6:51 PM) Jack Francis: Well, **PD
:P
(6:51 PM) Z:    I like the idea of a detective rank, though
(6:51 PM) jeff: otherwise seeing senior officers go undercover is kind of dumb
(6:51 PM) Marcus:   There's a detective job
(6:51 PM) Z:    not the same marcus
(6:51 PM) Marcus:   We don't need a rank called detective
lol
It'd just confuse people who're used to the current lspd procedures
(6:52 PM) Z:    anyway you guys have my $.02
i gotta go
(6:52 PM) Jack Francis: Deagle + camera + random skin + detective job
(6:52 PM) Marcus:   And you'd need to talk to the Chief before implementing anything like that
Personally
I think Cops should stay the way they are
They CAN go undercover if they want
(6:52 PM) jeff: err i think theres already a detective rank
(6:52 PM) Marcus:   to catch arms dealers
etc
And FBI should be able to go undercover in a deeper way
ie: sneak into gangs
and plant bugs and shit
(6:53 PM) Ace:  True, and the LSPD is doing fine imo.
(6:53 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  not really
we need more people...
(6:53 PM) Marcus:   FBI should be a more advanced undercover unit
(6:53 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  there's like 2 cops for 60 people atm
(6:53 PM) Z:    god damnit Marcus
no
no no no
(6:53 PM) Marcus:   There'll always be a shortage of cops. But it's better at this stage.
(6:53 PM) Ace:  ^
(6:53 PM) Cheetos:  back
(6:53 PM) Marcus:   I don't mean FBI should ONLY be undercover
(6:53 PM) Cheetos:  So what's your decision?
(6:53 PM) Z:    why are you all so obsessed with FBI being UC?
(6:53 PM) Marcus:   I mean, the undercover in FBI would be more advanced.
(6:53 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  agreed
(6:53 PM) Z:    oh
yea
(6:54 PM) Marcus:   IRL the FBI aren't always undercover
(6:54 PM) Z:    more features for their UC, I feel ya
(6:54 PM) Marcus:   They're just like the big brothers of the lspd
(6:54 PM) jeff: well
(6:54 PM) Ace:  Just bring back the divisions, CID, GUD, FAN
(6:54 PM) jeff: you dont see an fbi in the streets do you
(6:54 PM) Cheetos:  Hmmmmmm
(6:54 PM) Z:    No divisions, stupid robbans didn't even know what those were
(6:54 PM) Marcus:   You don't really see FBI at all
Except on movies :P
(6:54 PM) Ace:  So there'll be some who needs to be UC and others are obliged to patrol around.
(6:54 PM) Cheetos:  Drake, CID GUD and FAN aren't FBIish at all
Check the FBI's website for divisions :P
(6:54 PM) Ace:  But they worked out fine.
(6:55 PM) Cheetos:  I used ACTUAL fbi divisions
(6:55 PM) Z:    i'm outta here
later
(6:55 PM)   Z has left the conversation.
(6:55 PM) Ace:  FBI was organized when those divisions were implemented.
(6:55 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  I met a FBI dude at a hospital before and he was a thug
irl
(6:55 PM) Marcus:   lol
(6:55 PM) Cheetos:  :-O
rofl
Alright so
What's the final decision?
(6:55 PM) Cheetos:  Marcus?
(6:56 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  I think we should have both of them
(6:56 PM) Marcus:   What would you feel about co-leading it with Sam
(6:56 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  US timezone director
(6:56 PM) Marcus:   That way nobody gets hurt
(6:56 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  EU timezone director
(6:56 PM) Cheetos:  Hmmm
Dude
(6:56 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  and if you both cant get along
(6:56 PM) Marcus:   and the faction still stays big
(6:56 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  you're both fired
(6:56 PM) Marcus:   Because listen
(6:56 PM) Cheetos:  Do you get the idea?
(6:56 PM) jeff: both imo
(6:56 PM) Marcus:   Thomas gave you the faction
and thomas was a bitch
(6:56 PM) Jack Francis: ^
(6:56 PM) Cheetos:  I have been in 8 different FBI's under 8 different leaders
Sup?
(6:56 PM) Jack Francis: is a bitch.
Not was.
(6:56 PM) Marcus:   So for all we know he might've just been like "LETS GIVE THIS RANDOM ID FBI"
yeah
(6:56 PM) Cheetos:  Do you get the idea??
(6:56 PM) Ace:  Marcus, Kevin has been in the FBI longer than anyone for what I know.
(6:57 PM) Cheetos:  He faked OOC evidence in an OOC complaint
to get me fired
wtf?
(6:57 PM) Marcus:   Is sam on msn now?
(6:57 PM) Cheetos:  This is a prisonable offense sir, if not bannable
idc and i wouldn't
(6:57 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  so sam green = us timezone director
     kevin hawk = eu timezone director
(6:58 PM) Cheetos:  Sir
(6:58 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  both should get along if not both fired
?
(6:58 PM) Cheetos:  There's nothing called 2 directors
(6:58 PM) Marcus:   Nah
(6:58 PM) Cheetos:  It's director and assistant
(6:58 PM) Marcus:   It probably won't work having both of them
(6:58 PM) Cheetos:  And I'm not going to have Sam as a co-leader, never
(6:58 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  well if it doesn't neither should have it
(6:58 PM) Cheetos:  After faking that complaint? nty
(6:58 PM) Cheetos:  It's not my fault @ all. I did nothing wrong
(6:58 PM) Marcus:   But Kevin's been an FBI agent and had the faction for a while has he not?
(6:58 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  because that clearly shows they're both immature and cant handle the faction
(6:58 PM) Cheetos:  both?
(6:58 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  if they can't get along that is
(6:58 PM) Cheetos:  I did not fake shit
(6:58 PM) Marcus:   Yeah, what'd Kevin do wrong?
(6:58 PM) Cheetos:  Sam did
That clears everythign
(6:59 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  I'm saying in the future
(6:59 PM) Cheetos:  everything*
(6:59 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  if we do try it and it doesn't work
(6:59 PM) jeff: quality matters too
(6:59 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  please read what I said previously
(6:59 PM) Marcus:   I know
I'm sure Sam's a good leader
(6:59 PM) Cheetos:  Actually it was working, Lloyd Christmas is my best outcome example
(6:59 PM) Marcus:   Ah, Lloyd
(6:59 PM) Ace:  In my opinion, let Kevin handle the FBI since he already had it, if anything gets fucked up, Sam will replace him.
(6:59 PM) Marcus:   ^
I agree with that.
(6:59 PM) Cheetos:  I agree with that.
(6:59 PM) Marcus:   Give it to who had it first.
(6:59 PM) Cheetos:  BUT, nor sam neither Keif will be in my faction
(7:00 PM) Marcus:   If he runs it like shit, sam gets a shot
That's fair.
(7:00 PM) Ace:  True.
(7:00 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  So sam and keif are just gone?
Should I put them in LSPD rank 4 detectives?
or what
(7:00 PM) Cheetos:  Up to Albert
(7:00 PM) Marcus:   You'd have to talk to the Chief
(7:00 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  lol
(7:00 PM) Ace:  Let them be in the LSPD if they want to.
(7:00 PM) jeff: dont know/about keif, sam is good quality though
(7:00 PM) Marcus:   Cause you can't just insert people into factions
(7:00 PM) jeff: just sayin'
(7:00 PM) Cheetos:  All what they did is causing rumors, take an example from Jack Francis
He thought I took these 2 guys
(7:00 PM) Jack Francis: R4 = captain
(7:00 PM) Cheetos:  While Ziggy put them in my faction
So he raged @ me
(7:00 PM) Marcus:   r5 is captain isn't it
(7:00 PM) Cheetos:  No
0 cadet, 1 officer, 2 senior officer, 3 sergeant, 4 captain, 5 deputy dir. 6 dir.
(7:01 PM) Marcus:   Ok, make it clear that you can't just put a player into a faction
I'm talking about LSPD
(7:01 PM) Marcus:   Ok, anyway
(7:01 PM) Jack Francis: Besides, Sam and Keif were LSPD Sergeants
(7:01 PM) Marcus:   Kevin, you will lead it.
If you fuck up, you'll be removed.
(7:01 PM) Jack Francis: Then they left without warnings
No loyalty
(7:02 PM) Marcus:   Tell Sam that Kevin had it first
So it's only fair that Kevin gets a shot at running it.
(7:02 PM) ║▌║║▌║█║║▌║█║:  ok
(7:02 PM) Cheetos:  Should I get IG?
(7:02 PM) Marcus:   meeting adjourned
(7:02 PM) Ace:  I second the motion.