BS_Lewis and LordGloom: Lies, hatred, lack of accountability

+BS_Lewis  11:12:00
I think it's made from lime stone from local quarries. So it's basically turning into powder where it's getting exposed to the most fire
+BS_Lewis  11:13:48
Breaking news: Muslims in Paris celebrating https://imgur.com/2VNQ7hr
 ⓘ IanCognito is now known as NotreDame
+renjin  11:14:47
BS_Lewis, you just made that up. I don't understand why you'd do that.
Why would you spread hatred.
+BS_Lewis  11:15:47
renjin: If you were capable of having a sense of humor and not taking yourself so seriously you would understand.
+EXEMPTcollossus  11:16:32
lmao at that pic BS_Lewis
GrandApe, maybe they are sad abotu the valuable data that will be lost
@brad70  11:17:06
it is a landmark in paris
+Stefanie  11:17:12
GrandApe: that Cathedral is almost 1000 years old :(
it's a very sacred and very holy place
+EXEMPTcollossus  11:17:24
ok well at least it was old
maybe it was on its way out regardless
@brad70  11:17:34
took 800 years to build
+Stefanie  11:17:40
^
+renjin  11:17:41
BS_Lewis, you didn't answer the question.
You deflected the responsibility of your actions onto others.
@brad70  11:18:01
they are finally fighting it
+renjin  11:18:20
EXEMPTcollossus, what is funny about that picture to you?
+EXEMPTcollossus  11:18:24
renjin, bs_lewis's comment was good for the planet. widen your perspective
+Stefanie  11:18:45
GrandApe: France has its own culture, it's own language, and its own people and it's beautiful just as it is
+EXEMPTcollossus  11:18:50
renjin, what makes it funny is largely the look of carefree heartfelt joy on the muslim's faces
@brad70  11:18:53
why dont they have modern gear?
water drops from helicopters could have stopped a lot of this
+renjin  11:19:38
EXEMPTcollossus, do you understand the picture is unrelated to the fire?
BS_Lewis made it up.
+EXEMPTcollossus  11:19:45
renjin yes
renjin yes i understand
+renjin  11:20:17
So, based off you answer, on a given day, if I share a picture of Muslims with carefree, heartfelt joy on the faces of Muslims, you're claiming you'll laugh.
+EXEMPTcollossus  11:20:20
renjin, lets talk about epistemology.
+renjin  11:20:21
I don't believe you.
I think that you are lying.
+EXEMPTcollossus  11:20:35
renjin, no, it has to be a certainpattern
renjin is not muslim
+Stefanie  11:20:47
even worse that this is happening during holy week
+renjin  11:20:58
You are laughing because you dislike Muslims, and you disvalue evidence.
+EXEMPTcollossus  11:21:18
renjin, its funny because of how he framed it as the muslims celebrating at the misfortune of the christians
+renjin  11:21:25
EXEMPTcollossus, in what way was BS_Lewis's comments "good for the planet"?
+BS_Lewis  11:21:29
renjin: Since when do you care about truth? You use one-off discredited studies by racist Satoshi Kanazawa to support your claims
*  11:21:34
Ignoring BS_Lewis
+EXEMPTcollossus  11:21:41
renjin, the laughter makes people smarter and get along better
and makes them do good acts
+renjin  11:21:57
EXEMPTcollossus, do you agree it will also spread hatred towards Muslims?
In addition to the laughter.
+EXEMPTcollossus  11:22:35
renjin, on whole? only if such is deserved. and the muslims DID dance around injersey city after the world trade center collaped. and it was downplayed
+renjin  11:23:01
EXEMPTcollossus, your statement includes obvious falsehoods about human natue.
I will end my conversation with you at the end of this response.
+Joel  11:23:14
"the" muslims? all billion or whatever of them?
+EXEMPTcollossus  11:23:15
renjin on the whole it will make people better. it makes them lighten up and think more clearly
renjin lets talk about epistemology
+renjin  11:23:29
You claimed "only if such is deserved".
This is false.
+EXEMPTcollossus  11:23:35
 i want your opinion on something
+renjin  11:23:47
Humans are notoriously bad about assessing guilt and managing their emotions.
+EXEMPTcollossus  11:23:54
renjin, humor will make people think more clearly, and wil make them more likely to be accurate in their hatreds
renjin, lets talk about memory. renjin, ProfFarnsworth said memory is something like knowing that one believed something.
+renjin  11:24:43
Humans often globalize their responses, as opposed to making narrow, causality based responses.
+EXEMPTcollossus  11:25:00
renjin, more debate and discourse is better. humor helps that
+renjin  11:25:11
That is, if a human already dislikes Muslims a lot, and they make a connection to this unpleasant event to Muslims as a result of that picture, they'll conclude Muslims are responsible for this too.
You know all of this.
You set this aside because of your personal biases.
The Western ideal is to hold people and groups accountable only for exactly what they do, as best illustrated in our legal systems.
A general comment like "only if such is deserved", in this context, is violative of the Western ideal.
+Stefanie  11:26:16
GrandApe: i remember sending you a video a year ago talking about the magnificent beauty of notre dame
+renjin  11:26:20
What Muslims did after 9/11 is irrelevant to your choices today.
But it does indicate you're a bad actorr.
Those are all the words I wanted to say to you, EXEMPTcollossus.
I think you're a bad person.
I hope you'll reflect on why you have chosen to live your life aiding and abetting fascists as you do.
Like Vladimir Putin.