The Cognitive Cancer of the American Right

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@xsnlx
business owners will exhaust all economic alternatives before hiring more people
@GenghisKhan
and honestly, in a free enough market, supply slack shouldn't be a long term problem
as if there is actual consumer demand business will rise up to exploit that demand. it's much harder to do the reverse which is get people to consume more when they don't have the means to
@xsnlx
sexbee, lol
+dragoon
If the business is large enough, they'll manipulate the government to reduce market forces.
@GenghisKhan
it wasn't until after stagflation that conservatives really took hold
which was reagan who mastered that
@xsnlx
dragoon, reduce market forces, or to legislate them into their control/advantage?
@GenghisKhan
stagflation hit classic keynsian economics at its core and gave conservatives like reagan an opening to attack monetary policy; at the same time they attacked other foundations of sound government
for the middle class the 60s were not a bad time
+dragoon
xsnlx: Both.
xsnlx: For example, a business owner, Robert Mercer, is currently paying some of Donald Trump's legal fees -- as a result of their collusion with Russia -- to defend his business interests.
It's bad for almost every human on Earth, but great for Robert Mercer, business owner.
@GenghisKhan
brad70: that's the general election; participate earlier
you think the # of people who vote in the general is pathetic; look at how many vote in the primaries etc
and that's where you pick the damn candidates!
@xsnlx
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-legal-fund-paid-billionaire-robert-mercer-day-comey-fired-676383
today's headline
@GenghisKhan
and ya there are referendums and other stuff you can exploit if your represenatives aren't doing what u want and seem too established
@xsnlx
brad70, unfortunately, you're part of the problem...undying devotion to GOP and tickle down
+dragoon
xsnlx: brad70 is a factionalist in the sense of Federalist 9 and 10.
@GenghisKhan
ranked choice and similar are also unconstitutional for federal elections cuz of one man one vote
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brad70 is not compatible with the American republic.
@GenghisKhan
but ya they'd be great
+dragoon
brad70 reject the entire Enlightenment project and all its derivative schools of though, e.g. science.
@GenghisKhan
15 years ago is when they really started to become terrible tho
@xsnlx
brad70, sorry to hear that Brad, I hope you get better soon
+dragoon
Using tools from Enlightenment schools -- evidence, reason, calm -- towards somebody who rejects the foundations of your school is senseless.
@GenghisKhan
that's when bush is selling lies to get us into iraq ffs
+dragoon
The goals of the Enlightenment are to accurately assess reality.
brad70 is not a member of modernity. Accept this reality.
Yes, he wants to help autocrats get elected that will make his life worse. Yes, that is foolish.
That's how his brain works.
@GenghisKhan
unless one wishes to burn it all down i can't see why you would vote gop
+dragoon
You have to understand that a large portion of our species exists persistently in the intersubjective realities they're born into.
They don't have contact with reality in the same way that somebody familiar with anthropology and human cultural variation does.
While brad70 and other members of the post-truth movement do better under a liberal regime, that is not how they assess reality.
Inspecting charts, computing numbers, etc.
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+dragoon
They assess reality by listening to members of their trusted social group, e.g. other chatters online, propaganda on Facebook, and Fox News.
Accept them for what they are.
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