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- Jyslin: well hello there
- LindaLysippe: Well hello lovely
- Jyslin: so they asked you to talk to them
- LindaLysippe: Could you read the msg?
- Jyslin: what one
- LindaLysippe: And I am blocked from unfriends msging me so only staff can msg
- LindaLysippe: http://prntscr.com/jqvw7q
- LindaLysippe: okay, are you ready? she wants to be pulled
- Jyslin: yeah
- LindaLysippe: lol
- Jyslin: lol
- LindaLysippe: supergirl
- Jyslin: always lover
- LindaLysippe: she is in DND mode
- Jyslin: okie
- LindaLysippe: So sending msg to say cant invite
- Jyslin: so freinds can nessage ya huh
- Jyslin: :P
- LindaLysippe: only friends
- Jyslin: nice
- LindaLysippe: thats why I was shocked that I got a msg from someone completely unknown
- Jyslin: well we know is staff
- LindaLysippe: If she ever replies again, should we sit at this table or the chairs in the other area?
- Jyslin: over by the fire
- Jyslin: till she gets here
- LindaLysippe: She apologized and said something is happening with her QMs
- LindaLysippe: Hello and welcome
- TrailBound: Hello
- LindaLysippe: I did message ShannonMac to verify because I was scared you were just another troll upping the tricks on me
- Jyslin: Hello Trailbound
- LindaLysippe: I did not share your msg with him though.
- LindaLysippe: I am Linda and this is Jys.
- TrailBound: Shannon is great!
- TrailBound: I'm Denise
- Jyslin: pleasure to meet you Denise
- LindaLysippe: I had talked with him before when this troll posted on the forum about several of us reselling credits
- TrailBound: And this all started for me with the user StrictCat two weekds ago
- LindaLysippe: And yes, it is very nice to see you.
- LindaLysippe: And yes, that is a troll
- Jyslin: yep
- TrailBound: It's very nice to meet both of you.
- LindaLysippe: This person has created numerous more than anyone has been able to count alt accounts
- TrailBound: Let me just say -- I am the right person to handle all of this. My role is the Fraud & Risk Manager for IMVU
- Jyslin: UQQU is the latest one we have found
- TrailBound: I've banned overt 100 of her accounts so far
- LindaLysippe: Yes, that is the newest on
- LindaLysippe: ooh wow
- Jyslin: wow
- TrailBound: We shut that one down today and another 3
- LindaLysippe: THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Jyslin: ty for reenabling my account
- TrailBound: She is also using stolen credit cards and has it completely out for both of you
- TrailBound: She used both your names in threatening me
- TrailBound: Sooooo, I was a little apprehensive in reaching out, however the best way to cut her off is with more information
- LindaLysippe: Yes, we were "permanently banned" for her or his creation of a website imvusex.com
- TrailBound: She's very crafty
- LindaLysippe: They linked our IMVU profile page to the site
- LindaLysippe: Yes, the site was shockingly very elaborate
- TrailBound: She just sent me a QM about my account being hacked that looked like it was from Customer Service with a phishing link
- LindaLysippe: They did that after being knocked out of the forum for lying about the reselling of creds
- LindaLysippe: oooh wow
- TrailBound: Reseller creds is also my area of responsibility
- Jyslin: nods
- Jyslin: Trail, why does she have it out for us in particular ?
- TrailBound: Do you know who she might be?
- LindaLysippe: Well neither one of us do that, we like our creds too much
- LindaLysippe: Okay, this is my background in all of this.
- LindaLysippe: The orginal person whom is very much a puppet master
- LindaLysippe: never does the dirty work, but has her friends do it at her command
- LindaLysippe: SusansDestiny aka Anderl
- TrailBound: No idea. She is very sweet to anyone that treats her well and turns into pure evil and vindictive if someone steps out of line
- LindaLysippe: Yes, that is very very true
- TrailBound: Anderl is a friend of hers?
- LindaLysippe: I saw a posting from UQQU on the forum two days ago about a man knowing her address
- LindaLysippe: Yess
- TrailBound: Shit
- TrailBound: sorry
- TrailBound: I sent Anderl a message
- LindaLysippe: ooh shit
- LindaLysippe: Excuse my language
- LindaLysippe: Anderl taught me how to take rooms down
- Jyslin: Are they using a VPN to mask isp's
- TrailBound: vpns, proxies, spoofers, and any other masking products other there
- TrailBound: she has the means to use hacking tools
- LindaLysippe: https://prnt.sc/jod7fu
- Jyslin: she was also cohersing PPPetra92 to only allow certian mods in her rooms if she did she would "allow them to stay open"
- TrailBound: We didn't know at the time. And after we re-enabled your account Linda, I got another email from her bragging about what she would do next if more demands weren't met
- TrailBound: what relation is PSStreamer to her
- LindaLysippe: That was Anderl gf
- TrailBound: She shared my personal information with her
- LindaLysippe: but she bailed on her because of the troll and becuase of the rumor Anderl is really a male
- TrailBound: whoops
- LindaLysippe: There is a group that was created by Anderl and given to me to take control over
- LindaLysippe: This was a place for all postings concerning the trolls were posted
- LindaLysippe: But, now as I see everything, its only been a cat and mouse game with Anderl
- LindaLysippe: Can you see postings in groups as a Staff member?
- TrailBound: Yes, as an Admin, I can read all postings. Not to creep anyone out. Is that TheLicker group? The reason I ask is because we have been doing our level best to find all of the accounts associated with this individual and any informaiton
- LindaLysippe: Yes
- Jyslin: yeah
- TrailBound: There are SO many groups. Trying to find information has been a hunt in and of itself.
- Jyslin: Denise, I don't want to know how but as a fraud specialist is there anyway for some one to hack and see a peoples freinds lists ?
- LindaLysippe: That has our copied chats with the person whom I believe is takemeoutfortea as she was a "soldier" of Susans
- TrailBound: Not if you have it hidden.
- LindaLysippe: But if you go on your cellphone to IMVU Next you can see who is following you
- LindaLysippe: as Jys discovered yesterday
- LindaLysippe: and the followers are 95% accurate that they are or were at one time on my friends list
- TrailBound: Let me check - I thought you could hide it
- TrailBound: do you MATM by any chance
- TrailBound: know..
- LindaLysippe: I do not
- Jyslin: no who is that
- Jyslin: So you know the troll has on several times claimed to have a cousin who works at VU
- TrailBound: it's odd, because as we started communicating earler I received a friend request from that individual and I don't accept FR normally unless I vet them completely
- TrailBound: Doubt it
- LindaLysippe: The troll has a habit of using 4 letters or letters and numbers for a name
- TrailBound: Weird! I don't want to be followed :(
- LindaLysippe: Nor do I unless they are on my friends list
- TrailBound: and smiley faces at the end of every sentence, has anyone else noticed that
- LindaLysippe: yess
- TrailBound: including the text messages I received from the lunatic!
- LindaLysippe: I have a couple of very weird conversations with them
- LindaLysippe: I have tried numerous times to keep them talking so the more I could flag
- TrailBound: When did the trolling start?
- LindaLysippe: For me, it began in October
- TrailBound: Wow!
- Jyslin: for me it was in March when I first met them
- LindaLysippe: When I got people to join the group, there are others who dealt with this prior
- LindaLysippe: They list in the group the names and even some chats
- TrailBound: This was the SOS group?
- Jyslin: they came in and attacked the Linda in my room, I booted them ,they came back with another one and threatned to destroy me
- LindaLysippe: No, TheLicker group
- TrailBound: got it
- LindaLysippe: The SOS group was created to protect others from events like this well not so bad because I had no idea someone could do all of this
- TrailBound: One of her accounts was thelicker and it was banned in Feb -- which had some very interesting convos with anther member
- Jyslin: when they cloned my account with jysiin account to promote the website through the forum they were able to change my picture in moments as well
- Jyslin: i was a member of the licker account at the time as well
- LindaLysippe: Only one person knew I was put in charge of TheLicker and that was Anderl
- Jyslin: thakfully Aunite was able to help me after i was banned from the forum with the confusion in name
- LindaLysippe: Yes, they cloned my account 4 times, their last one lays in limbo
- LindaLysippe: oooh never mind, its gone too WOW!!
- TrailBound: What type of person is Anderl? Does go with the flow? Is she easily manipulated? Or would she seek out someone like our troll to do her bidding if she were unhappy?
- LindaLysippe: She is a sadistic mindset person
- LindaLysippe: She is ruthless and at one time she told to me on my previous account when I asked was she not afraid of getting banned for the things she said in publc
- LindaLysippe: "bbe nothing but 50 euros and a smile keep me on here"
- LindaLysippe: That sentence has been branded on my brain
- TrailBound: wow!
- LindaLysippe: \She said she was connect with IMVU staff member named Eric
- TrailBound: I'm being told that our little troll friend is also hitting Anderl, so that friendship is short lived
- LindaLysippe: Thats the only info I could get out of her
- LindaLysippe: Well it is to take the eyes off of Anderl
- TrailBound: let me check the staff directory, I don't think we have an Eric (we're only 150 strong)
- Jyslin: its something that should be investigated
- LindaLysippe: So many instantly knew in their gut it was her because of past same situations
- LindaLysippe: This was said to me around 2012
- LindaLysippe: My account then is still an active but dormant account AmethystDahlia
- TrailBound: If we had a real name or location, that might help too
- TrailBound: MaxtheFallen, is she ok
- LindaLysippe: I was "married" to her when she was SusansDestiny so very privvy to information that others would not see
- LindaLysippe: YES!!!
- LindaLysippe: She is one of our saving graces
- LindaLysippe: I talk with her on the phone almost every day
- LindaLysippe: Chiquitabadgirl is our other one who fought for us with everything she had.
- TrailBound: We almost disabled account as well because I received a threatening email impersonating Max. My CS Director is trying contact to have a conversation if she's willing.
- LindaLysippe: Ooh she would be very willing
- TrailBound: He sent her a message
- LindaLysippe: Now, she is going to be like I was very paranoid about the truth of staff or another troll
- TrailBound: When we find this troll, we will be criminal charges
- LindaLysippe: ooh thank God
- TrailBound: bringing
- TrailBound: If you have saved convos of threats or anything, including IPs, that will also help
- LindaLysippe: as I told someone, I am not just doing this for myself, this is about so many others on here that are getting hammered and theyre scared
- TrailBound: Please share my contact info with only those you trust -- I'm paranoid too!
- LindaLysippe: I had much much more saved on my previous computer that has crashed beyond well unknown right now
- LindaLysippe: I will only share with two others Max and Chiquita and promise to drown them if they speak a word to anyone else
- Jyslin: Deniese are we in danger of having our accounts re disabled at any point over this
- LindaLysippe: Oh yes please answer that one.
- TrailBound: no, we know that the troll is trying to manipulate your accounts and as long as you do not create any UFI products or violate TOS, you're fine
- LindaLysippe: The most wrong I have done is posted AP pics in my photo albums and well cussed a few that I shouldnt have at a few times
- TrailBound: my team is working hard on this and we will make sure that your accounts are protect from any scrutiny as far as this troll is concerned
- LindaLysippe: If you need anything from that group, please let me know.
- TrailBound: Cussing, lol, guilty.... as charged... I have a sailor's mouth
- LindaLysippe: Yeah, mine are usually I am flaggin someone but becuase they have pushed my buttons I lose my composure and bam!
- LindaLysippe: But, honestly Jys and I have a lot of respect for being on IMVU, we are protectors and unfortunately this time we paid a very heavy price for doing just that
- TrailBound: Sorry, 10 balls in the air at all times....
- Jyslin: o worries
- Jyslin: if i come accorss more information may I either add you or can you send me an email so I can contact you
- LindaLysippe: I want to be a part of anti-bullying on here big time
- TrailBound: Here's my contact info: email dpollock@imvu.com or you can call me (479) 426-3415
- LindaLysippe: Thank you so very much, Denise
- TrailBound: We really are here to help! I want to resolve this as quickly as possible!
- LindaLysippe: We have put ourselves and our rooms in hiding waiting for it all to go away
- Jyslin: you might want to check out pppetra92
- Jyslin: she might have more info on who it is
- LindaLysippe: Yes
- LindaLysippe: NOw she may be a bit harder to contact or get a response from because she is in fear more than we are.
- Jyslin: you might want to check her communication
- LindaLysippe: Between her and UQQU
- Jyslin: yes
- TrailBound: You may want to reach out to them first and have them contact me if their feeling nervous.
- LindaLysippe: okay, I will only give your avatar name
- LindaLysippe: I dont want to give more than that until they have actually contacted you via msg
- TrailBound: Ladies, it was a pleaseure meeting you. If you would like to add me as a friend, I would be honored. I'll check out each of the users you have mentioned as well. I'm going to leave you to your evening. Enjoy!
- LindaLysippe: You didnt have to ask twice lol
- LindaLysippe: I zinged that right out.
- LindaLysippe: WOW!
- LindaLysippe: wow
- Jyslin: holy crap
- LindaLysippe: holy fuck
- LindaLysippe: wow
- Jyslin: max and inge should get in contact with them
- LindaLysippe: Yess, Inge neeeds to be coached first though
- LindaLysippe: She overtalks things and repeats and doesnt take the time to read what is being said to her
- Jyslin: im sure she knows that
- LindaLysippe: I am saving this chat under pastebin
- LindaLysippe: https://pastebin.com/yRDHyCFi
- LindaLysippe: now keep that on your computer
- Jyslin: got it
- LindaLysippe: sorry petula, I didnt mean to click
- PETULA: thats ok .. glad you got your accounts back
- LindaLysippe: but helloooo lol
- LindaLysippe: yes, so are we
- LindaLysippe: it was a hell not wanting to wish on anyone
- Jyslin: nope it wasn't
- PETULA: i an not with Miley any more
- LindaLysippe: ohoh
- PETULA: just so you know ..
- LindaLysippe: Im sorry, hon
- PETULA: its ok
- PETULA: hope we are still friends u guys..
- LindaLysippe: Yes, always
- PETULA: thanks
- LindaLysippe: You better
- LindaLysippe: lol
- PETULA: love u both
- LindaLysippe: We have risen from the ashes of hell
- LindaLysippe: rofl
- PETULA: GREAT
- PETULA: take care GFs
- Jyslin: um petula
- PETULA: loves ya both
- Jyslin: yes we are
- LindaLysippe: You too and please be safe
- LindaLysippe: I was trying to click Petra
- LindaLysippe: and someone else signed in and scrolled my list
- Jyslin: is she on
- LindaLysippe: yess
- Jyslin: summon her
- LindaLysippe: Hello darlin and welcome
- Jyslin: Hi Nat
- LindaLysippe: Come sit when you load, if you would like
- PPPetra92: what I am being dragged into? I closed my rooms
- Jyslin: nothing
- LindaLysippe: Well you dont need to do that
- LindaLysippe: The trolls are all being banned one by one
- PPPetra92: they are more than one?
- Jyslin: they have closed over 100 accounts
- LindaLysippe: Yes, so far there have .... yes, what she said
- LindaLysippe: Its one person who just creates account after account
- PPPetra92: and wat is that abt imvu staff?
- LindaLysippe: The IMVU staff member that was here is Trailbound
- Jyslin: she would like to talk to you
- LindaLysippe: They were threatened by StrictCat
- PPPetra92: imvu cud not protect my room when it was getting reported every hour
- Jyslin: and shut down UQQU this morning
- PPPetra92: now they care?
- Jyslin: nat
- PPPetra92: imvu damaged my room
- Jyslin: This has gone from harrassment to fraud and cyberbullying
- PPPetra92: I have been legal all the time, I have never used any illegal room photo, any room furniture
- Jyslin: they permently disabled us
- PPPetra92: everything in my rooms was always legal
- Jyslin: you are a victime here
- PPPetra92: and still someone cud report my rooms
- LindaLysippe: You did nothing wrong
- PPPetra92: I was NOT protected by imvu
- LindaLysippe: We did nothing wrong
- LindaLysippe: None of us were
- LindaLysippe: Now, we are
- Jyslin: Nat do you know me
- Jyslin: simle yes or no
- PPPetra92: yes, but imvu changed my room pic and name and deleted description 100 times
- LindaLysippe: Yes, the damage was done but now they are here
- PPPetra92: where was imvu at that time?
- LindaLysippe: I will explain to you how that was done
- Jyslin: they were being used as a tool by the troll to harrass us
- PPPetra92: I complained and they ignored my message
- Jyslin: smae here
- PPPetra92: now they care?
- Jyslin: yes they do
- LindaLysippe: Yes, unfortunately late but nonethless now they do
- Jyslin: the fraud and security department want to talk to you
- Jyslin: they want this guy out of the system
- LindaLysippe: They will be filing criminal charges against the troll or trolls
- PPPetra92: I have nothing to say more than what I said now
- PPPetra92: I should have been protected
- LindaLysippe: They know about the attacks on your rooms
- PPPetra92: and did nothing?
- LindaLysippe: Unfortunately, IMVU only looks at quantity and not quality
- PPPetra92: they made 5 copies of my room
- PPPetra92: no action from imvu
- LindaLysippe: When the troll created some 20 accounts to attack your rooms, IMVU did not investigate as to why, they just saw 20 people saying you were wrong
- PPPetra92: on the contrary, my rooms get damaged
- Jyslin: let me ask you nat did the troll try to bargin with you
- PPPetra92: they saw 20 ppl reporting me and took action against my room without even checking if anything was wrong in my rooms
- PPPetra92: just took action
- LindaLysippe: becasue they read manuals and not logic to think with
- PPPetra92: it's a popular room since 6 yrs and never ever had anything illegal
- Jyslin: its also automated
- Jyslin: NAT focus WE beleive you
- LindaLysippe: if such and such a number of people say something is wrong, it is their first button to protect the rest
- Jyslin: and ill be honest I was a new member in your room and got banned over it
- LindaLysippe: We are two of many who have been fighting for your protection
- PPPetra92: I don't care abt believing me, my room is there for imvu to check since 6 yrs
- PPPetra92: I care that I was NOT protected
- Jyslin: wel now you have a chance to deal with it
- PPPetra92: imvu has my ID card and they know who I am, should this be hacked too???????????????????????
- LindaLysippe: Lsiten, we are not trying to anger you
- LindaLysippe: Honest
- PPPetra92: where is the dammm protection that we trust
- Jyslin: ask them hun
- Jyslin: if you want this over nat
- Jyslin: this is a shot to do it
- PPPetra92: I am so dammm angry and I do NOT want to talk to them coz I do not trust them
- PPPetra92: I pay them every month for VIP
- LindaLysippe: We are doing everything we can to make this safe for everyone, not just us
- PPPetra92: I want my rights in return
- LindaLysippe: Yes, we all do but unfortunately shit had to hit the fan before someone stepped up from stafff
- PPPetra92: where is he or she?
- PPPetra92: let him or her hear this
- PPPetra92: I want my rights
- PPPetra92: I deserve to be protected
- LindaLysippe: Sending invite now
- PPPetra92: I deserve that
- LindaLysippe: Hello and welcome back
- TrailBound: Hello
- LindaLysippe: Petra is very very hostile with being unprotected so just a warning
- PPPetra92: hello :))
- LindaLysippe: This is Denise, Petra
- TrailBound: I'm Denise, nice to meet you
- PPPetra92: I am Nathalie
- TrailBound: it's a pleasure
- PPPetra92: nice meeting u
- PPPetra92: but sorry, I am so angry and disappointed
- TrailBound: you have every right to be!
- PPPetra92: I have been legal and never violated imvu rules since I joined
- PPPetra92: never ever
- PPPetra92: and I deserve to be protected
- TrailBound: how long has this been going on for you personally
- PPPetra92: my rooms are very popular because I have nice friends
- PPPetra92: maybe a month or less
- PPPetra92: my room got damaged and closed repeatedly by imvu
- PPPetra92: at least, someone shud check
- LindaLysippe: Her room is taking the hits
- TrailBound: As I was telling Linda and Jyslin, this started a couple weeks ago for me. I started receiving death threats
- PPPetra92: it's only coz a hacker or whatever got booted from my room
- PPPetra92: omgggggggggg in real?
- TrailBound: in real - via text and email
- TrailBound: to me and my family
- PPPetra92: omgggggggg that's scary then
- Jyslin: yeah This is serious Nat
- PPPetra92: I'll quit my account in this case
- TrailBound: this a criminal case, there are stolen credits at work as well
- TrailBound: nope, don't.
- PPPetra92: I come from a very well known family and I don't want this to affect my family
- PPPetra92: it's scary
- TrailBound: We have engaged a cyber forensic investigation firm and law enforcement to assist
- TrailBound: Bullying, trolling, harassment, and intimidation will not be tolerated. Our users should feel safe
- PPPetra92: omggg so it's more than a booting thingy
- PPPetra92: u know wat I have been told?
- TrailBound: what
- PPPetra92: someone sent me a screen shot of a website selling illegal stuff and they put my rpofile photo on it
- PPPetra92: profile*
- LindaLysippe: we were on it too
- PPPetra92: mhmm, Inge told me that too
- LindaLysippe: my ex wife was too, mikihoney, etc
- Jyslin: yes we all were
- PPPetra92: I do not need money, I am rich
- TrailBound: They are impersonating quite a few users that they want to have booted from the platform
- PPPetra92: I don't need dirty money
- LindaLysippe: I was high on their hit list
- PPPetra92: how can such a freak do that?
- Jyslin: to get us removed
- TrailBound: Linda, Jyslin and MaxtheFallen were all used to send me threatening emails
- PPPetra92: I never hurt anyone, I am always nice to everybody and I feel that tooooooooooo many ppl here love me
- TrailBound: We know they didn't really do it
- Jyslin: Denise if a room is reported again and again can you monitor it for who reports it
- PPPetra92: I never hurt anybody, I don't even boot
- TrailBound: Shannon can
- LindaLysippe: Yes, because I was taught as I told you how to take down a room as they have been doing to room pics and that
- Jyslin: the troll wants pppetra room shout down
- TrailBound: Shannon and I work really closely together
- LindaLysippe: I love that guy
- PPPetra92: anyway, thanks for caring
- Jyslin: if she put it up again in definace fo the troll it might be a good way to cacth more accounts
- PPPetra92: at least now I feel someone cares
- TrailBound: Is there anyway to vet the people asking for access to the rooms
- PPPetra92: I'll keep my rooms closed till it's safe again to open them
- LindaLysippe: This is what Ive been trying to tell you, Nat. to not let go, that we were fighting the good fight
- TrailBound: You can contact me if you're concerned about a new user wanting access
- LindaLysippe: How do we do that?
- TrailBound: My team works 24/7 and
- LindaLysippe: My rooms are set to friends only now and so are my messsages
- TrailBound: knows the hell I have been going through
- PPPetra92: sorry for that, really sorry :((
- Jyslin: \yeah hun I can only imagine
- TrailBound: Are your rooms open all hours or certains hours
- PPPetra92: it's really scary
- LindaLysippe: They offered someone on here 500k of creds if they would give them my real life info because I did not deserve to live
- Jyslin: personally I would set up kitties to bit the troll see ho reports it and follow that trail
- PPPetra92: my rooms are always open, I just closed them few days ago to avoid being reported
- LindaLysippe: AutumnNights was the one told
- TrailBound: It no longer bothers me -- I take it as a challenge and no one will get the best me
- PPPetra92: coz this troll was reporting them every 30 minutes
- Jyslin: exactly
- Jyslin: if imvu knew that the reports were fake more accounts
- Jyslin: more triagulation of ips
- TrailBound: Do you know if they got info
- TrailBound: your info
- PPPetra92: I dunno if u have access to my inbox, but if u have, u can check their messages to me
- LindaLysippe: I hope and pray they didnt
- LindaLysippe: Autumn has been an on and off again mortal enemy
- PPPetra92: threatening me always that: we never forget, we never forgive
- PPPetra92: dammmm, I never hurt them
- LindaLysippe: So I am hoping she never crossed that line
- Jyslin: neither did any of us
- LindaLysippe: She was also banned
- Jyslin: inviting max the fallen
- TrailBound: We're banning the accounts as they come in
- LindaLysippe: Denise, you may want to speak with Autumn as well
- TrailBound: Including the devices they use
- LindaLysippe: Hello Max, this is Denise, an IMVU staff member
- MaxTheFallen: hey
- TrailBound: I'll speak with anyone willing to talk to me
- PPPetra92: hello max :))
- Jyslin: Max meet Deniese
- MaxTheFallen: Hello denise NTMU
- TrailBound: Hi Max
- PPPetra92: btw, I had a long chat with the troll 2 days ago
- LindaLysippe: Did you save the chat, Nat?
- PPPetra92: I wanted to know why I am being reported
- MaxTheFallen: Hi Nat
- PPPetra92: nuuus I never ever save any chat since I joined imvu
- MaxTheFallen: this whole troll thing has got out of hand , did u all give her the name and address of the person that opened the web site ?
- LindaLysippe: well Max, there are stolen credit cards involved
- MaxTheFallen: i see
- TrailBound: We cannot access any of UQQU's chats right now, however in the morning we should be able to get all of the messages and see who and what was said
- Jyslin: this one was the info to open the website
- Jyslin: gotten throu whois
- PPPetra92: I authorise imvu to read my inbox
- PPPetra92: u can see her threats
- PPPetra92: not only that acct, other accts too
- LindaLysippe: Mine is open as well
- MaxTheFallen: yes the adress was 704 Manor Drive Brick NJ
- TrailBound: imvusex.com used an aol.com email address and we actually had the domain taken down on 5/9
- LindaLysippe: Jys contacted the web server
- PPPetra92: that's the fake webiste?
- TrailBound: interesting
- LindaLysippe: yes, it was
- Jyslin: yes
- MaxTheFallen: the owner of the credit card is CITKOWICZ, ANDREW
- TrailBound: probably stolen
- Jyslin: i sent the infromation in a message on my temproary account ladyjys when you disabled me
- MaxTheFallen: could be
- Jyslin: it was through softlayer
- Jyslin: they emailed the webhoster
- TrailBound: So far, we tallied over $3K in stolen credit cards, not to include PayPal, Gift Cards, or SMS payments
- MaxTheFallen: wow
- LindaLysippe: I did not ever lie to you, I told you I would always have your back.
- TrailBound: Heading to a felony conviction once we catch the real person
- MaxTheFallen: well the troll said he was hacking peoples accts
- LindaLysippe: wow!
- PPPetra92: that's reliefing
- MaxTheFallen: did u tell her that this troll is in cohhots or the same persona as MistressFlower
- TrailBound: Death, blackmail, extortion, maiming, terroristic threats against me and IMVU don't help the case
- MaxTheFallen: cohoots*
- TrailBound: against the troll
- Jyslin: smh
- LindaLysippe: Yes, they have access to the group TheLicker
- Jyslin: suddenly im glad i live in canada
- MaxTheFallen: lol Jys
- TrailBound: is MistressFlower the same as theSavior and StrictCat
- LindaLysippe: which carries the majority of the troll names known throughout time
- LindaLysippe: yes
- MaxTheFallen: yes
- LindaLysippe: they are the rooms they always refer to
- LindaLysippe: I was suppose to get all of Petras mods unmodded and then submit myself to mistressflower
- PPPetra92: I didn't receive message from that acct, I received from ContactUS, UQQU, Many Patricia accts
- TrailBound: kitten and cat should be names to be aware of for any new user
- MaxTheFallen: teh troll came in and said that MistressFlowers rooms were going to be the ultimate rooms and thats was one of its motives to do what it was doing
- LindaLysippe: and I stood there and said "do I look like a subs?"
- LindaLysippe: their pofile pics, the majority of them all look the same
- Jyslin: Nat Max ty for coming in and helping
- MaxTheFallen: it told us it was a major hacker that hacks businesses
- MaxTheFallen: yw Jys my pleasure
- TrailBound: If you have any saved chats, messages, or anything that would be helpful, please feel free to share them with me. I really am here to help
- PPPetra92: Guest_B55B_disabled_197046144: hi think your room is much better now without image cover because I like gray color :)
- LindaLysippe: Yess because one of their user names was a virus used
- PPPetra92: one of the messages
- LindaLysippe: this is what they been doing to so many rooms now to spread their message of control
- Jyslin: I will email youthe things i sent the could server
- Jyslin: they might have more info
- PPPetra92: StrictCat_disabled_196447967: do you like your room new image ? I designed it for you , I can make it also good name and the better if was without furniture and much better if it doesn't exist because it increase people imagination , remember : we don't forget , we don't forgive , we don't give up
- PPPetra92: another
- TrailBound: If you think your room is in danger, reach out to ShannonMac immediately for assistance. If he doesn't respond, reach out to me. We're both workaholics!
- PPPetra92: I got more than 100
- LindaLysippe: and whenever we would do the help chat, it was always canned responses
- LindaLysippe: make your rooms private for friends only, block anyone who does this
- PPPetra92: I'll keep my rooms closed till this is solved
- LindaLysippe: well we can do that but we cannot protect others in other rooms from being hit
- TrailBound: Hit me up on my account
- PPPetra92: honestly, for the time being, I don't trust the system protection
- Jyslin: Will do
- MaxTheFallen: it truly is a case of cyberbullying and taht is at the least
- TrailBound: You also have my email and phone number -- worst case scenarion, call me
- LindaLysippe: I have it saved on my phone now
- LindaLysippe: So if you ever get a call from Nebraska, that is me
- LindaLysippe: Well more than likely I would text first
- PPPetra92: I have to go, thanks for coming and was a pleasure meeting u and talking
- MaxTheFallen: Im glad someone can help these ladies out
- PPPetra92: at least I feel that someone cares
- LindaLysippe: Be good to you, hon
- Jyslin: tc nat and be well
- PPPetra92: huggiesss
- TrailBound: Max, Jeff our CS Director sent you a QM. He'd really like to chat if you are open to it. He's here to help as well. His avatar is simply Jeff
- MaxTheFallen: tc nat
- MaxTheFallen: yeah ill talk to him
- LindaLysippe: What does QM stand for?
- PPPetra92: bbye and tc please, have fun :))
- LindaLysippe: You too and smile easier now, Nat
- LindaLysippe: Its almost over
- TrailBound: Sorry, quick message. It's the acronym we use for the inbox on the platform
- LindaLysippe: ooh okay
- PPPetra92: pooofiesss ^.^
- LindaLysippe: wave
- TrailBound: Nice meeting you Nathalie
- LindaLysippe: My apologies for pulling you without a msg first
- LindaLysippe: She was quite hostile and needed to hear it from someone other than us too
- LindaLysippe: two not too*
- TrailBound: No worries! I get it. I've been really paranoid as well and NO ONE has the right to treat others the way that we all have been treated. This will end. I will see to that.
- Jyslin: she was threatened by the troll multiple times
- Jyslin: its too bad she wont keep kitties up, if i know the troll it will keep reporting it
- MaxTheFallen: Thank you so much for the help , i agree this has got to stop
- LindaLysippe: I know, but Dita has been coaching her
- TrailBound: What is the name of her room?
- LindaLysippe: Lesbian Kitty
- MaxTheFallen: the troll has opened up several lesbian kitty rooms
- LindaLysippe: with ....PPP at the end of it
- LindaLysippe: yes, they were doing that or naming rooms our avatar names
- LindaLysippe: saying we were all males
- LindaLysippe: I do not understand though one thing
- LindaLysippe: and its not that I wish this on anyone
- MaxTheFallen: it was just harrasing at very chance it can get
- TrailBound: I'll send that over Jeff and my team. We don't generally do anything with the abuse reporting, however I will get involved to make a pre-emptive strike against the troll
- LindaLysippe: but why only the 3 of us were banned.
- LindaLysippe: There were at least 15 connected to that site so we cant figure out why we were singled out
- TrailBound: Did the troll only report you three
- TrailBound: who was the mod
- LindaLysippe: There were many many mods
- LindaLysippe: Jys was not even a mod
- TrailBound: so it could have been an inside hack job -- personal attack
- LindaLysippe: if thats the case then what Anderl said a long time ago she has connections
- LindaLysippe: is true
- LindaLysippe: and that in itself is even creepier
- TrailBound: According to my team's research, Michelelur and Anderl are the same person. A guy from Puerto Rico.
- LindaLysippe: OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- MaxTheFallen: figures
- LindaLysippe: OMG!!!!!!!
- LindaLysippe: ooh shit shit shit
- MaxTheFallen: that doesnt suprise me one bit
- LindaLysippe: ooh just shoot me now
- TrailBound: That information is only as good as the info provided. The device links to the same person
- MaxTheFallen: calm down sis , with all the lies that thing told uu , this should not come as a shock
- LindaLysippe: I will say this, Anderl or whomever is the real one has severe personality disorders or deserves a damn Oscar
- LindaLysippe: holy hot wheels
- TrailBound: This will all get sorted. If this is an evil bat shit crazy person, we'll figure it out
- MaxTheFallen: they have to be to do all this
- LindaLysippe: they spent quite a bit on me
- LindaLysippe: they cleaned out my wl not too long ago
- LindaLysippe: I have no idea why but they used one of my cloned accounts
- TrailBound: big spender?
- LindaLysippe: Well if you look at the majprity of the accounts
- LindaLysippe: Has VIP and/or AP
- MaxTheFallen: prob all the stolen fungds
- MaxTheFallen: funds
- LindaLysippe: That is ... well all of this is just blowing me away
- TrailBound: We haven't indication to date.
- Jyslin: Denise I have an open case with the BBB I will be closing it today
- TrailBound: against IMVU
- Jyslin: yes when my accout was disabled i opened one
- Jyslin: i was innocent as you know
- TrailBound: oops... that was my call... Sorry
- LindaLysippe: It was when we were getting hit with brick walls to communicate as I was preparing mine as well
- Jyslin: lol
- Jyslin: well you got me back And my 12 years of history so ty
- LindaLysippe: My attorney said for one IMVU violated our civil rights because of being accused in writing of something unverified, it was libel
- TrailBound: I'm glad we've got each of your accounts straightened out. It kills me to ban an aged Creator account
- Jyslin: now we know more though
- MaxTheFallen: Ii hope this all gets sorted out and the person gets what its got coming
- Jyslin: aye max
- LindaLysippe: this person has hurt so many on here
- MaxTheFallen: i have to go i have to get up early for work
- Jyslin: I'm glad to assit anyway I can
- LindaLysippe: thank you for coming back on, max
- MaxTheFallen: Ty for the help Trailbound
- Jyslin: ty max
- MaxTheFallen: im glad u all are on this
- MaxTheFallen: yall have a good night
- TrailBound: When I originally put your accounts on Hold for verification because I thought perhaps your accounts had been hacked
- LindaLysippe: You as well
- Jyslin: you too hun sleep well
- TrailBound: Max, you're very welcome
- Jyslin: that explains it
- TrailBound: It was pleasure meeting ou
- Jyslin: lol i was grumpt to do it mind you but i had nothing to hide
- LindaLysippe: She has a very good soul
- Jyslin: she does
- Jyslin: i love max
- LindaLysippe: Me too, even her lil rednecky way of talking lol
- Jyslin: lol
- Jyslin: Denise I'm kara by the way
- LindaLysippe: But, what got us to be put on the security hold?
- TrailBound: Kara, very nice to meet you!
- Jyslin: she thought our accounts were hacked
- LindaLysippe: I thought that was while she was
- Jyslin: then things excalted
- TrailBound: First was the email demainds -- something was not quite right
- LindaLysippe: email demands???
- TrailBound: I got an email from linda.lysippe@aol.com demanding specific items and I had to send to your avatar account Linda
- LindaLysippe: ooh wow!
- TrailBound: again, something not quite right
- LindaLysippe: for one I despise aol so that is soooo not me, but you didnt know that
- TrailBound: I received 4 of those
- LindaLysippe: damn wow
- LindaLysippe: they were really gunnin' for me
- Jyslin: they hate you
- Jyslin: lol
- LindaLysippe: yeah it makes me feel so damn special
- LindaLysippe: not
- Jyslin: remember when they said you cost them 400k on an disabled account
- TrailBound: Take it as a challenge
- LindaLysippe: ohhhh believe me we have taken this as a challenge because Jys and I were not going to quit until we got our accounts back
- LindaLysippe: even though we were both fallling apart over it
- LindaLysippe: she would fall down, I would pick her up. I would fall down and crash hard, she would put the armour back on me
- LindaLysippe: sort of like that lol
- Jyslin: sorry they dont take my name
- LindaLysippe: Yeah her name is very special to her and this is the first time Ive ever used my real first name
- TrailBound: With each new death threat, I've been laughing my tale off because she's becoming more and more unhinged
- Jyslin: yeah
- LindaLysippe: As she told you she was born in the year 1711
- TrailBound: Have you been responding to the troll or engaging
- Jyslin: im sure she is going to double down when she realizes we were renabled
- LindaLysippe: She has the formula for DNA somethin somethin to keep herself young
- Jyslin: no ive been dleiberatly lying low
- LindaLysippe: this was in the beginning
- LindaLysippe: I am making no conversation with anyone outside of my friend list now
- TrailBound: 1711 - well! she must be a vampire
- LindaLysippe: I am on DND forever or at least for awhile
- Jyslin: Denise
- TrailBound: yes...
- Jyslin: could imvu recreate ar oom if they wanted to
- TrailBound: I can ask
- Jyslin: i swear if you could recreate pppetras kittey room
- Jyslin: its going to drive it back there
- LindaLysippe: yeah that room was being used by the troll
- LindaLysippe: like a nest
- Jyslin: make it a clone mods and all see what happens
- TrailBound: what do you think was the motivation, especially for that room
- Jyslin: i dont know
- LindaLysippe: Because all other room owners had them banned
- TrailBound: was it the people
- TrailBound: was StrictCat
- LindaLysippe: Petra would not reply to any messages sent to her about please please ban these people
- TrailBound: in that room
- LindaLysippe: Yess
- Jyslin: thesavoiur
- Jyslin: patricias
- Jyslin: you would kick one out bang another one would pop in
- TrailBound: thesavior - I might be able to pull the transcripts for her conversations. I hadn't read through those yet
- Jyslin: yeah
- Jyslin: um correct me here linda
- LindaLysippe: http://prntscr.com/jqxcp7 http://prntscr.com/jqxck5
- Jyslin: queendhamphir
- LindaLysippe: yes
- Jyslin: her account i noticed was disabled
- Jyslin: i dont kow why but might link in somehow
- TrailBound: Who's wisejester?
- Jyslin: she was a reular problem in the room with unwanted comments
- LindaLysippe: he is a male on here forever and he and anderl have been mortal enemies for years
- LindaLysippe: he doesnt like that males get booted from lesbian rooms so he creates his own lesbian rooms
- LindaLysippe: I went to him straightaway when this began asking if he was the one behind it all
- TrailBound: I see wisejester and FalseCity share a device. No connection to the others
- LindaLysippe: he said he wasnt
- TrailBound: How did they figure out they were connected
- LindaLysippe: Anderl when she was SusansDestiny and AnnesDestiny was a nasty open person on here
- LindaLysippe: She would actually hunt him down and call him every name in the book
- LindaLysippe: it is still a hate-hate relationship
- LindaLysippe: she was also SuseWind
- LindaLysippe: So, riddle me this. Should I remove myself from TheLicker group and should I unfriend michelelur and anderl or will that draw more to me?
- Jyslin: Denise what was your email addy again please
- TrailBound: Is TheLicker group still valid for your mission in removing the troll?
- TrailBound: dpollock@imvu.com
- LindaLysippe: in an attempt yes
- LindaLysippe: for warning others of who to watch out for
- LindaLysippe: but anderl is the one who created the group
- TrailBound: You might want to set up an cloned version
- LindaLysippe: I was thinking that earlier
- TrailBound: I can help with names
- LindaLysippe: but not being so obvious about what it was
- LindaLysippe: because I dont want to add more info in there like putting cheese in a broken mousetrap now
- TrailBound: You don't have to call it TheLicker, call it something else and be exclusive
- LindaLysippe: We are not going to end up "sleeping with the fishes" now that we know too much?
- TrailBound: There is a good number of you that are being targeted. Your mission is just and users need strong leaders like both of you to help them understand what to do
- TrailBound: I can help from behind the scenes
- LindaLysippe: This is what I was born to do.
- Jyslin: anytime
- Jyslin: and if you need me to enge with the troll .... happily
- LindaLysippe: Jys has more of a logical and grounded mentality
- LindaLysippe: How do we know who to reach out to though to protect them?
- Jyslin: Create a room
- Jyslin: pulse it
- Jyslin: feed
- Jyslin: it will attract it though
- LindaLysippe: Open it to all
- Jyslin: i would let Denise guide ou hun
- Jyslin: she has expereince in this
- TrailBound: Who do you know that has been targeted? Those would be the first. They probably know others that have experienced the same and word will spread. It just has to be confidential and you are going to have to come up with a vetting process to ensure the troll isn't among the members.
- LindaLysippe: http://prntscr.com/jqxgrh
- LindaLysippe: So I take it my inventory is being checked? Which I dont mind because I only buy from the shop.
- LindaLysippe: but lovely timing
- TrailBound: That may be may be my fault as well.
- LindaLysippe: lol youre turning out to be quite lovely
- LindaLysippe: rofl
- LindaLysippe: No, seriously its okay
- TrailBound: Sorry again..... The team that pays out the creators is doing a full review for me, just happened that you user id's were in there. I'll retract them
- TrailBound: We're trying to see if we can actually obtain a real address for the troll
- LindaLysippe: That is a feat all unto itself, it sounds like if they have all of the bells and whistles to block their ip
- TrailBound: Pulling out all the stops at this point. If standing on my head for an hour helped, I'd do it,
- LindaLysippe: I feel the same actually
- Jyslin: lol
- Jyslin: welcome to my life full time school and secrutiy work
- TrailBound: Supposedly TheLicker, works for the IBM Watson program as a computer scientist. Have you heard this before?
- Jyslin: i use to do work for Bodog in their poker department running down multiple accounts playing same tables
- LindaLysippe: Yes, I have
- LindaLysippe: it told me in a chat once in the beginning
- LindaLysippe: from the sounds of it they were fired for improper something unknown
- Jyslin: how many hcats did you have on you computer before it went down hun
- LindaLysippe: I had several saved on that computer
- LindaLysippe: I was trying to becasue it just felt like it was escalating and I wanted my butt protected
- LindaLysippe: I was going to say about them using 4 digits for a name is because one of their 4 digit names was a virus or a hack that did some major damage
- TrailBound: Alright ladies, I much sign off! Seeing double. Have a wonderful evening!.
- TrailBound: typos galore!
- LindaLysippe: Thank you again and again and a thousand more times
- TrailBound: Anytime, chat soon
- LindaLysippe: take care
- Jyslin: anytime and best wishes
- LindaLysippe: We will help as best and as much as we can
- Jyslin: so how does it feel to be validated
- LindaLysippe: fucking awesome to be honest
- Jyslin: i think things got real for ppetra
- LindaLysippe: but they took a room lol
- Jyslin: lol
- Jyslin: what room
- LindaLysippe: 60p water forest home
- Jyslin: why hun
- LindaLysippe: it was one of the first rooms on this account
- LindaLysippe: wow
- LindaLysippe: it was improperly rated
- Jyslin: i reached out to lindal to have autumn unblock me
- Jyslin: ill talk with Dawn
- LindaLysippe: ooh ugh yeah I was thinking we need to umm sorta tell her....good
- Jyslin: she desrves to know what happeend
- LindaLysippe: We are protected right now but we are going to be watched too
- Jyslin: surprised abut anderl
- LindaLysippe: oomg that blew me away
- Jyslin: i have nothing to hide
- Jyslin: no BM
- LindaLysippe: michelelur always seemed nicer
- LindaLysippe: I have no BM
- Jyslin: soooo
- LindaLysippe: I had one earlier, but I flushed
- LindaLysippe: rofl
- Jyslin: your beast
- LindaLysippe: well let me check
- LindaLysippe: they were shop items
- Jyslin: yeh we are protected from what the roll can do to us here
- LindaLysippe: whew still there
- Jyslin: as long as we are within the tos and not creating bad items were good
- LindaLysippe: I plan on that too
- LindaLysippe: I never have been about breaking laws or rules unless they were harmful to others
- LindaLysippe: or I was much much younger and a smart ass and thought I could get away with anything
- Jyslin: yeah
- Jyslin: dont ever put your hand ina frie cooker
- Jyslin: bad linda
- LindaLysippe: lol
- LindaLysippe: yeah that was pretty freaky when they unwrapped my hand
- Jyslin: this is um surreal
- LindaLysippe: it looked like a candle
- Jyslin: youre lucky you had no perment damage
- LindaLysippe: I did
- LindaLysippe: to my brain
- Jyslin: yeah well
- LindaLysippe: That was one of those "stupid is as stupid does" moments in my life
- Jyslin: chuckle
- LindaLysippe: which unfortunately have been a lot
- Jyslin: its life silly
- LindaLysippe: I cant believe to what extend they are using my avatar name
- LindaLysippe: extent*
- Jyslin: goddess im glad i dont have to look kover my back with imvu
- LindaLysippe: did you think I was guilty when this first happened?
- Jyslin: never hun why
- Jyslin: its not in your profile
- LindaLysippe: and darlin when you do talk to Autumn, be with little info as she is one of the biggest mouths on IMVU
- Jyslin: i will
- LindaLysippe: and we dont want to blow the case or ruin anything for IMVU to nail whomever
- Jyslin: I will just say that after a throurough review we have all been cleard by imvu, however, if she has further contact witht he troll or is threatned to please forward the info to us
- LindaLysippe: she has told I dont know how many this is all my fault she got hit
- Jyslin: period
- Jyslin: fluffy bunnyemma just sent me a gift to enjoy with you
- LindaLysippe: awww
- LindaLysippe: what is it?
- Jyslin: a room
- LindaLysippe: ooo
- Jyslin: extreamly nice one
- Jyslin: want me to laod it
- LindaLysippe: sure
- Jyslin: this is so nice
- LindaLysippe: I knew it, it had to be Chic/ He always does these awesome rooms
- LindaLysippe: ooh you can stand there
- LindaLysippe: and I wont let you in
- LindaLysippe: until you tell me
- LindaLysippe: you love me
- Jyslin: i love you
- Jyslin: kisss
- LindaLysippe: smiles
- LindaLysippe: come on in
- Jyslin: its gorgeous
- LindaLysippe: wow
- LindaLysippe: its nice!
- LindaLysippe: ooh wow
- LindaLysippe: I feel so small out here
- LindaLysippe: Tries to shoot a cannon up there
- LindaLysippe: misses and blows a hole in the dirt
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