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- 1:28:34 / 1:28:35 July 28 2017
- Special Counsel Standoff?
- Jason Goodman
- Jason Goodman
- 5,872 views
- Transcript
- 0:44
- morning George good morning we're live
- 0:47
- do we have Charles I don't hear Charles
- 0:51
- just yet okay we just had a little text
- 0:55
- a foo there at the last moment we'll try
- 0:57
- and get him back why don't you take it
- 1:02
- away for a moment while I address that
- 1:04
- start off with the mornings event a
- 1:06
- morning events well a couple of big
- 1:08
- things news happened had the Panama
- 1:11
- papers caused the sorry like Trish the
- 1:20
- Panama papers is that Charles yes it is
- 1:24
- hey Charles good morning what happened
- 1:29
- there you we lost you for a minute
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- we are live so will will chat with you
- 1:34
- and you know live TV this must have been
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- what it was like in the face all right
- 1:39
- good
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- right yeah Skype always cut out in the
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- 50s guy cuts out on us and her mccabe
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- watches the show so i don't know if that
- 1:47
- has anything to do with it okay Trish
- 1:50
- back well I was just talking about the
- 1:53
- lead in Charles which an article you
- 1:55
- sent me which was about Bashar Sharif
- 2:00
- the Prime Minister of Pakistan being
- 2:04
- ousted by a financial scandal having
- 2:07
- this panamanian company and he had poor
- 2:12
- luxury condos for luxury condos in New
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- York for each of his children
- 2:22
- I think it's junk
- 2:25
- in there yeah you got some wind issues
- 2:30
- hi can you hear me yeah I can hear you
- 2:33
- now yeah I was just saying mr. Sharif
- 2:35
- had a few too many luxury condos in
- 2:38
- London too many condos in London not
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- werewolves in London but condos in
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- London how many is too many jurors well
- 2:45
- I think four fours a lot now the the sad
- 2:48
- part about Sharif is that he was the
- 2:50
- only kind of decent guy left before you
- 2:52
- run into a whole string of Pakistani ISI
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- pretenders or or what do they call those
- 2:58
- people that are in waiting for the crown
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- so this is this is kind of frying pan
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- into the fire
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- Sharif was your last hope for any kind
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- of democracy I think
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- now if Imran Khan not Imran a1 Imran
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- Khan who leads the opposition party
- 3:15
- would come in that would be great the
- 3:17
- cricketer your favorite cricket my
- 3:19
- favourite cricketer but that does not
- 3:22
- look like it's gonna happen it looks
- 3:23
- like these there's a whole litany of
- 3:26
- Pakistani ISI they're gonna take over
- 3:28
- the country and you cannot help but
- 3:31
- wonder if this is somehow related to the
- 3:33
- events happening here in the United
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- States giving air cover to Emraan a won
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- and the Pakistani ISI here and our
- 3:41
- wonderful Washington DC but anyway
- 3:44
- Charles that's my take on it what what's
- 3:46
- your take on it yeah so I've had the
- 3:51
- displeasure of going to Pakistan twice
- 3:54
- it was admittedly 23 years ago and I've
- 3:56
- been to 65 countries around the world
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- some many times
- 4:07
- I don't know if this will work or not
- 4:16
- I would have to think not
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- well it does say we're live maybe it's
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- back to working let's see same stream it
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- might it let's see I'm not sure it's on
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- repeat now froze
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- no people are saying its back let's see
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- let me try and get Trish and Charles
- 4:58
- back I think we're back George
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- they call that a McCabe mist well the
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- fog with this we were hitting the
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- bandwidth pretty hard so it's back
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- that's good
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- now that might only be back on YouTube I
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- don't know how our Facebook live stream
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- is doing but let's concentrate on
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- YouTube George riff for a bit and let me
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- try and get the guys back on skype here
- 5:21
- well the other
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- I'll bring Charles back to talk about
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- Shareef and and Trish I'm sure I'll have
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- a comment about Sharif as well but if if
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- there's one thing I would do to support
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- my boys in in the USA my is I boys my
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- little group would it would be to get
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- rid of Sharif if there's one thing I
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- could do in Pakistan is pull the plug on
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- Sharif and put an ISI general into the
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- you know they'll what will happen is
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- they'll be a Hunta they'll probably have
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- to call a special election a year out
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- from now and Imran Khan will be in the
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- hunt there but but for right now for
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- supporting the ISI boys overseas you
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- could not have anything happen better
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- than Shareef being installed is Charles
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- back yes and I do believe the stream is
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- back to being live so Charlton before we
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- cut away I was talking about kind of
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- these ISI generals and waiting taking
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- over the and you were you were speaking
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- of LLC's being able to be used and how
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- hard they were to track these
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- pay-to-play schemes right so with an LLC
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- what you can do if you want to pay a
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- bribe something of value to a politician
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- you you can be as naked as just setting
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- up an LLC and have the LLC have an
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- account and put in that account cash
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- gold jewels art real estate whatever you
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- want divert you could be even more
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- diamonds whatever you want or even Morse
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- more creative the way I believe John
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- Podesta did it what you do is you create
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- a company which they did in that's the
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- case they created something called Joule
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- unlimited jou L e unlimited which then
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- had a series of other jewel companies
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- around the world which were just ideas
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- until the Russian a Russian government
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- control holds entity put will called Rus
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- nano ro SN ano put thirty-five million
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- dollars of cash into that entity
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- suddenly the various shares or
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- securities in that you know startup are
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- worth a lot more money because you have
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- a substantial investor putting a lot of
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- money in in there and so the question
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- becomes what kind of security would a
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- John Podesta actually own and when you
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- create the starter I mean I did it
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- lawfully when you but when you create
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- private companies there's a tremendous
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- latitude in how you would value an
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- interest so if I if I'm prepared to put
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- a hundred million dollars into a company
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- but I want to make George and Jason and
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- Trish happy
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- I said era what we'll do I'll put a
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- hundred million and you put nothing in
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- and I'll let you own 20% of the company
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- so I've given you notionally twenty
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- million dollars but you know it doesn't
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- have to be shown as a gift you can have
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- a contract that would say that you know
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- actually you don't have a right to this
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- until certain events happen in the
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- future there's all sorts of things you
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- can do and you know there are lots of
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- willing lawyers and accountants around
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- the world lots of places where you can
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- park these elements of value and the
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- Pakistanis are notorious for doing this
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- kind of stuff I mean they were the ones
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- who created BCCI or very heavily
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- involved in BCCI that that the mess of a
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- bank with highly suspect account holders
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- around the world there's a long-standing
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- pattern pattern in practice here so you
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- know evidently our Congress believes
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- that they don't they're not subject to
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- regulation that debbie Wasserman Schultz
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- and her allies you know that you know
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- the swamp just lives on and on and on
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- there's nothing untoward they think
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- in letting this crooked firm get
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- involved you know owning basically
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- access to all of their personal
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- information and their BlackBerry's and
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- their computers I mean it is reckless
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- miss criminal misconduct in my view and
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- it cries out for an investigation now
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- while I was off the air I was checking
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- to break the news and there are our
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- flurry of stories one-zero hedges asking
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- and I sent it to you just now zero
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- hedges asking why Donald Trump has said
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- nothing about the Elan brothers and so
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- that's one thing second there are
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- reports that this imran Awan may have
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- been subscribing to a pedophilia youtube
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- channel so back off from that we haven't
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- confirmed that and what we have seen
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- Charles as Georgia of course anticipated
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- is that there is a concerted effort to
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- swing the story that way yeah and I feel
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- that the the lawyers press release which
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- specifically cited Pizza Gate was the
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- pretext to doing that so I'd be very
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- very cautious of those we have no other
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- evidence to support anything to do with
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- pedophilia other than these unverified
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- reports that have just started coming
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- out yesterday yeah and I would just know
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- and Charles we appreciate you've given
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- us the raw intelligence on that because
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- we were you know doing technical things
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- and I would just join Jason and knocking
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- that down this is an you know obvious
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- juicy red bait for the alt-right media
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- to maybe be dumb enough to go after
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- Imran Awan is a very effective very
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- intelligent operative any innocent until
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- he's an intelligence operative for the
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- Pakistani ISI so we need to keep
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- focusing on that because just taking out
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- one person doesn't take out these
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- spiderweb you you have to actually go to
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- the head of the octopus so Trish you're
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- a financial analyst harvard-trained
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- financial analyst what do you think you
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- know our Charles is far more
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- knowledgeable about the Pakistan and the
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- construction of these entities and their
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- funding but you've based on my
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- experience as a board member
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- everything he's saying is exactly right
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- I mean you the way that they're working
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- around these laws and the number of
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- people willing to facilitate it who
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- aren't necessarily part of the whole
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- corruption scheme but enable it is
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- really rather staggering and I think
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- just sort of speaks to the the breadth
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- of the problem and how and the
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- desperation in using pizza gate as a way
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- to divert attention from the expanse of
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- this so you know Delaware used to be the
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- place where everybody went to sort of
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- conceal what they were doing and avoid
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- lots of scrutiny and now it seems like
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- there's a whole new network that is
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- entirely new to me I did I didn't know
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- any of what Charles was just describing
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- so it's really rather such a great point
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- that you raise I would definitely
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- encourage people if they haven't heard
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- my phone call with Imran Owens lawyer
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- you should give it a listen because not
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- only does he introduce this notion of
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- pizza gate media having anything to do
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- which it doesn't with this in Rana Wong
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- fraud case which is frankly like not
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- even ice cube on the tip of the iceberg
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- of what's going on here the lawyer when
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- it becomes flustered by my questions
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- goes on to introduce you know Donald
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- Trump and the loans that he has gotten
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- as a multi-billionaire to somehow
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- compare that to the loans that a that a
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- foreign Idol who's purportedly earning a
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- hundred and sixty thousand dollars a
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- year now I have no doubt that Donald
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- Trump you know we've learned of course
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- from the very astute Rachel Maddow that
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- Donald Trump of course earns 150 million
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- dollars a year which I was surprised by
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- that's a little low I thought he might
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- have been earning more but certainly 150
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- million dollars a year George have you
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- you've had some good years have you done
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- 150 in a year no but I was I was excited
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- about Charles one hundred million dollar
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- partnership for us where we didn't have
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- they're more about that LLC forget about
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- Sheree I think you'd imagine if you had
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- a hundred you've had even one year of a
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- hundred and fifty million dollars of
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- earnings you could probably go into the
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- bank and get six eight twelve 20 loans
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- sure east on that yeah now if you had
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- 160 thousand dollars a year which I
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- think you've probably had years in that
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- range or even better I don't think
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- you're getting eight loans on that all
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- no and the the loan-to-value ratio is
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- based on your hitting on the you're
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- jumping ahead a little bit we'll come
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- back to Pakistan but I think you as long
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- as we're there now this is the home loan
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- scam that's going to be in the credit
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- union that's that's gonna blow up when
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- Trump sees this he's gonna be able to go
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- right to the records the reason why they
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- kept cranking and the reason why they
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- kept coming up with straw employees that
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- that are not real that never show up for
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- work the reason why they kept cranking
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- up the salaries is because you can
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- borrow based on your salary exactly what
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- Jason said so you're not gonna have just
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- six people not just the 401 brothers and
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- the two wives this is going to be a new
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- a litany of people that have come
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- through they they start at the inter
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- America program I keep repeating this
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- but I don't see a lot of news action yet
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- on inner America but they started the
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- inner america program as interns they
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- come in and take a visa they're
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- encouraged to overstay their visa they
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- then become US citizens they then work
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- them into Congress
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- either through one gig at the New York
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- Times or gig at the UN for a you know
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- some amount of time they put them in
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- these legislative positions chief had
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- let you know staffer and then BAM right
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- away with the loans and again if you
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- manage the credit union it's kind of
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- like having the checkbook you know your
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- mom's checkbook and you could just write
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- as many as you want to yourself whatever
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- you think you deserve right and that is
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- the story of Cynthia Martin that story's
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- coming like a freight train and we so we
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- saw a lot of action yesterday okay wait
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- a minute let's see if this does it
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- okay I think it should be back George I
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- think we're back okay just check what
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- the comments can everybody it's saying
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- frozen I can hear you yeah so everybody
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- should refresh down maybe a little bit
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- of a delay where we had a sort of an
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- internet blackout there but I think we
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- should be back mo well what's funny is I
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- can see Jason's meter and it just is
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- it's almost like if it was a light meter
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- it was almost be like it's noon and then
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- it's dropping like it's in the middle
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- now it's coming back in the in the
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- middle of midnight so like we should be
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- back there should not be wild
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- fluctuations like that an Internet
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- bandwidth there's just no possible
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- explanation where you would go from 10
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- megabits a second to zero
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- - yeah 100k a second I can think of a
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- possible explanation yeah I could think
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- of it looks like you're back on now yeah
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- yeah okay Makeda missed so so where I
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- was and I'll jump to you guys trician
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- and Charles here in just one second the
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- Judicial Committee on the house side of
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- course there's two Grassley heads the
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- one on the Senate side they wrote a
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- letter saying hey we need to have a
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- second special prosecutor so they the
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- legislative writes a letter over to do
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- to these excuse me the legislative
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- rights letter over to the executive
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- saying DOJ saying you need to appoint a
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- second counsel we've gone one year now
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- with this first special prosecutors
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- first special counsel there's been
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- nothing found and we have this other
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- situation developing over here with
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- Loretta Lynch James Comey now the old
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- wand brothers might even get added into
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- this we need a second special counsel so
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- you know people are throwing names
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- around and I just wanted to throw that
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- out to you Charles and Trish on who you
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- might think would be a good second
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- special counsel and if you've ever seen
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- this situation before where you have
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- almost dueling special counsels yeah I
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- mean I it to me it just seems like
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- people are running around doing
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- everything
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- can to distract from what's really
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- happening and give the illusion that
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- some that their intent on prosecuting
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- all of this when in fact they're just
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- trying to figure buy some time to figure
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- out how to cover it all up but I mean
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- Charles probably has some better ideas
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- than I do in terms of special counsel
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- because I just it seems everyone who may
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- legitimately get nominated is somehow
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- corrupted along the way or as we saw
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- with Flynn you know it doesn't it
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- doesn't take anything real it just takes
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- an attack with fake information to put a
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- the kibosh on any efforts to address
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- this in any seriousness so you know I've
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- had some time to study this actually
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- many months and you know what I see is
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- the following there is no good
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- explanation for why John Koskinen still
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- serves as the IRS commissioner there is
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- no good explanation for why the lady I
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- forget her name who sits on top of the
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- department that regulates charities
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- still is the Acting Director she's the
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- one who defied Congress both of these
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- defied Congress said Loretta Lynn is
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- that Loretta Lynn I forget her name yeah
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- but but I don't I don't remember name
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- yeah but the point is that you know
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- Donald Trump as a matter of urgency it
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- needs to cause those people to be
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- replaced with extreme prejudice
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- and then needs to cause acting people
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- who are objective in a perfect world we
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- would find the rare Democrat you know
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- who is who actually has an unblemished
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- reputation put that person in in charge
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- of the whole IRS and somebody else in
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- charge of this department then we need
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- to open rational investigations not
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- simply into the Clinton Foundation and
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- all of its many affiliates and there are
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- many many affiliated charities there
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- needs to be for the first time a
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- refreshment exercise where we go and we
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- update the laws that pertain to you
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- u.s. charities particularly those
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- operating internationally and bring them
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- into the 21st century the last time this
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- happened was in 1969 so yeah there rules
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- on the books but the people were
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- supposed to enforce the federal laws
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- don't have the tools they need to do the
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- job that is required here so when you
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- talk about these LLC's and these
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- elements of value that are provided to
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- to various supplicants be they foreign
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- politicians be they foreign companies do
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- they cronies in the u.s. be they US
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- people the system is not really set up
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- yet to catch the graft so you can have
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- as an example the Indian politician
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- whose name surfaces in the Clintons
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- donate donor lists is somebody who gave
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- five million dollars to the Clinton
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- Foundation and when contacted by the
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- Indian press last year he laughs about
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- five million dollars I make any banks
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- like three thousand dollars a year so I
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- mean there are a whole bucket load of
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- suspicious names there's a man called
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- Victor P da la da h da le H who
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- supposedly has a foundation it
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- supposedly may have given 15 or so
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- million dollars the Clintons the Clinton
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- Foundation there's no record of such a
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- foundation in Canada or the UK where he
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- lives
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- there's no record of such a foundation
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- in the US and it's a simple matter to
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- cross-check all this stuff and you got
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- to ask yourself you know why the IRS
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- hasn't done this what do they actually
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- do they sit around all day watch porn
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- well I think you met Lois Lerner right
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- that's why I can't said Loretta Lynch
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- but an ll we're having a lot of ll names
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- Lois Lerner has been the person in
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- charge of charities at IRS enforcement
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- so there is you know the number one
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- reason I believe she's in charge of
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- charity enforcement at I was she was
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- yeah
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- and why is she still in the
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- administration Lois Lerner no no she was
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- kicked up in May and I exposed in May of
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- 2013 and out by September October
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- 2013 but she she is it's a much more
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- insidious story about Lois Lerner Lois
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- Lerner was in the General Counsel's
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- office if not the general counsel the
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- Federal Election Commission during 1997
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- timeframe when the second Presidential
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- Inaugural was held you know we can raise
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- money and there's strict rules about you
- 23:03
- know any donation I think if 250 or up
- 23:05
- you have to identify the donor you then
- 23:07
- have to provide a report within 90 days
- 23:09
- of the event which was on January 22
- 23:11
- 1997 and we know from later Clinton
- 23:15
- Foundation disclosures that between 1 &
- 23:17
- 5 million according to them came from
- 23:20
- this Presidential Inaugural trust and
- 23:22
- she would have been the person who would
- 23:24
- have been I would assume at least
- 23:27
- getting a copy looking through a copy of
- 23:29
- this report I tried to get it I made a
- 23:32
- FOIA request I was turned down and you
- 23:36
- know this money was supposed to have
- 23:38
- been disbursed by April 20th 1997 how
- 23:42
- come it didn't go into the Clinton
- 23:43
- Foundation then you know why does it
- 23:46
- show up 2.3 million is my guess of the
- 23:48
- three contributions in 1998 who had
- 23:51
- custody and control over this money Lois
- 23:53
- Lerner would have been somebody who knew
- 23:55
- all that she was then inserted into the
- 23:57
- charity Department first in this special
- 24:00
- letter Department you know that
- 24:01
- considers complex cases
- 24:03
- she was announced I believe in December
- 24:06
- January time frame 9 2000 went in
- 24:09
- sometime in 2001 and George was promoted
- 24:12
- to the position you talk about head of
- 24:14
- the tax-exempt organizations a
- 24:16
- department which is a very important
- 24:18
- role she was in that role from January
- 24:22
- 2006 till about May 2013 or there abouts
- 24:25
- now that's important because not only
- 24:27
- does that role cover charities it also
- 24:31
- covers what are called action
- 24:32
- organizations those are where you are
- 24:35
- not allowed off your donors a tax
- 24:38
- deduction because you're engaged in
- 24:41
- partisan work so there's a large number
- 24:43
- of these action organizations which in
- 24:46
- fact are structured as charities like
- 24:48
- Media Matters
- 24:49
- which is a total fraud she's the person
- 24:52
- who sits on top of was the person who
- 24:55
- sat on top of this array of frauds
- 24:58
- through which you can launder money
- 25:01
- through which you can disguise payoffs
- 25:04
- to cronies through which you can employ
- 25:06
- political operatives in no-show jobs and
- 25:08
- these charities this whole area for the
- 25:11
- benefit of We the People needs to be put
- 25:14
- under a microscope we need to understand
- 25:16
- the full extent of abuses with volva all
- 25:19
- parties and even independence and we
- 25:21
- need to bring the regulatory system into
- 25:24
- the 21st century into full view and pick
- 25:27
- on the most egregious offenders and send
- 25:30
- them up the river stripping them of
- 25:32
- their assets putting them into disgrace
- 25:35
- and ensuring that they can never again
- 25:37
- hold positions of trust whether in
- 25:39
- politics charities companies investment
- 25:41
- firms or academia or whatever that we
- 25:44
- need to do that will drain the swamp now
- 25:46
- Charleston would just let you know
- 25:48
- there's a groundswell of people who want
- 25:51
- you to take that job at IRS I assume you
- 25:57
- don't want it well I think I can be a
- 26:01
- lot more effective as an independent
- 26:03
- person you know what the second you go
- 26:05
- into the bureaucracy you get buried by
- 26:08
- the bureaucracy and there are all sorts
- 26:10
- of ways that you know they can stop you
- 26:11
- but as long as I'm just on the on the
- 26:13
- stuff going on your show giving speeches
- 26:16
- expressing my First Amendment rights
- 26:18
- access my opinions under my First
- 26:21
- Amendment rights you know I think I'm a
- 26:24
- lot more effective doing that would I
- 26:26
- help horse I'll help but I'm not going
- 26:28
- to be bound by a bunch of you know swamp
- 26:31
- fish bureaucrats I'm not going to do
- 26:33
- that well Katherine Austen Fitz spoke to
- 26:36
- that I believe it was Katherine awesome
- 26:38
- Fitz about how you know with a housing
- 26:42
- program and rebuilding how public
- 26:46
- housing where it should cost fifty
- 26:48
- thousand dollars per unit but this they
- 26:52
- were spending two hundred and fifty
- 26:53
- thousand and she's like well that you
- 26:55
- know economically that just doesn't make
- 26:57
- any sense we need to change this and the
- 26:59
- response she got was oh well how how
- 27:03
- will we take care of our friends
- 27:04
- otherwise Wow
- 27:06
- right right disgusting so yeah so
- 27:08
- Charles so that we come out with a
- 27:11
- productive set of deliverables here who
- 27:14
- would you recommend first for to replace
- 27:17
- khat skinny is that that's his name cos
- 27:19
- skinny kana kanum Kos ki nem koskinen
- 27:24
- Koskinen who would you recommend or a
- 27:27
- couple of names for Trump for to replace
- 27:30
- Koskinen at at IRS well I mean yeah
- 27:35
- somebody I'd love to see the mix somehow
- 27:38
- is trey gowdy mm-hmm now I it's worth my
- 27:43
- just taking a quick second and
- 27:44
- explaining why this process is very
- 27:47
- different than what you read about on
- 27:49
- television and in the newspapers when
- 27:52
- the IRS decides to discipline a charity
- 27:55
- the IRS has awesome power first of all
- 28:00
- it does not have to prove intent it does
- 28:02
- not have to prove a case against a
- 28:04
- charity right the IRS contacts you by
- 28:08
- letter typically and says you know we
- 28:12
- have reason to believe that the Clinton
- 28:14
- Foundation is not organized and
- 28:18
- operating and compliance with federal
- 28:19
- and state and foreign laws produce your
- 28:23
- records forthwith and demonstrate to us
- 28:26
- that you are in fact organized and
- 28:28
- operated lawfully if the burden of proof
- 28:30
- falls on the charity to do that and the
- 28:33
- IRS could just sit there and say that
- 28:35
- you haven't grabbed it yes still haven't
- 28:37
- proved it and you go through a process
- 28:39
- the IRS discovers that you have lied or
- 28:43
- omitted material facts on the original
- 28:46
- application that you made to be a cherry
- 28:49
- in the case of the Clinton Foundation
- 28:50
- back to October 23 1997 where it
- 28:53
- specifically states that the charity
- 28:56
- will be only a domestic charity not
- 28:58
- involved in international activities you
- 29:01
- can you can retroactively Lea revoke the
- 29:05
- authority of a charity on a US charity
- 29:07
- to operate and then force it for its
- 29:10
- entire life to refile its tax returns as
- 29:13
- a corporation and to pay corporate
- 29:16
- income taxes to the Treasury on any
- 29:20
- positive
- 29:20
- prints between the revenues and their
- 29:22
- expenses and then you can assess
- 29:24
- penalties and interest against the
- 29:26
- trustees and against all the significant
- 29:29
- u.s. donors who may have claimed that
- 29:32
- they made a donation to discuss this
- 29:35
- thing that's effective corporation we go
- 29:37
- against them for the federal taxes
- 29:39
- penalties and interest so it's a
- 29:41
- fearsome weapon now Yuka and you you
- 29:44
- could and you know you go down this
- 29:46
- track that swamp you'll be able to eat
- 29:50
- you know a seven course meal in the
- 29:52
- center of the swamp and it'll be really
- 29:54
- clean and oh yeah Febreze everywhere
- 29:57
- Charles in the case of the Clinton
- 29:59
- Foundation given all the stuff that
- 30:00
- you've just detailed right there what
- 30:02
- sort of a financial impact would we be
- 30:04
- looking at to the foundation itself and
- 30:06
- all of the you know donors well you know
- 30:11
- the biggest impact would be by going
- 30:13
- against the largest donors so to pick on
- 30:16
- somebody in particular you know let's
- 30:18
- just say that you know Bill Gates
- 30:21
- hypothetically speaking decided it was
- 30:25
- cheaper for him to set up a foundation
- 30:27
- than to pay a gigantic antitrust
- 30:29
- settlement not only in the US but around
- 30:32
- the world in key markets for operating
- 30:34
- Microsoft as a monopoly right so and
- 30:38
- let's just say that there are you know
- 30:40
- you go back into history you know was
- 30:43
- we're the Rockefellers were they really
- 30:45
- doing this out of the goodness of their
- 30:47
- heart giving involvement or were they
- 30:48
- doing this to change their information
- 30:50
- and is it possible that the richest
- 30:53
- among us you know are you know go down
- 30:56
- the track as many as Rashad Gupta in the
- 30:58
- former McKinsey guy many people in
- 31:00
- suspect countries do you set up a
- 31:03
- foundation and suddenly you're not
- 31:05
- Rashad Gupta the potential crook you're
- 31:08
- a philanthropist right right so so the
- 31:12
- real weapon is you go against gates and
- 31:16
- you say listen you know the role the
- 31:18
- laws on the books are very strictly to
- 31:20
- tell us about all the good things you're
- 31:22
- doing and I'm sure it's fascinating but
- 31:24
- the facts are that you have made many
- 31:27
- years of public filings in which you
- 31:28
- have claimed that you've given money to
- 31:30
- the Clinton Foundation that you did your
- 31:31
- diligence and it was a charity but it
- 31:33
- wasn't
- 31:34
- and you're not stupid and this isn't in
- 31:37
- the way the rules as present as written
- 31:40
- presently work the a private foundation
- 31:43
- donor to a public charity may not make a
- 31:46
- gift to a suspect charity and not
- 31:50
- allowed to do it you have to get the
- 31:52
- money back and only if you try to get
- 31:55
- the money back
- 31:56
- you escape the worst penalties you know
- 31:59
- if you repeatedly do this in the case of
- 32:01
- the Gates Foundation they've been doing
- 32:02
- this since 2001 and they escalated their
- 32:06
- donations to the suspect Clinton
- 32:08
- Foundation charities
- 32:09
- starting in 2009-10 went in the fraud
- 32:11
- metastasize so it's a very bad pattern
- 32:15
- effects and you could go to gates and
- 32:17
- say you know thank you very much we
- 32:19
- appreciate all the work you've done in
- 32:21
- the past we're shutting you down we're
- 32:23
- gonna sell your assets and and we're
- 32:25
- gonna basically keep them and using the
- 32:27
- pay down the debt that sort of thing
- 32:29
- forward of trillion that Katherine
- 32:31
- Austin porticos referred to right yeah
- 32:34
- so Charles I don't mean to hold your
- 32:36
- feet to the fire but do you have a name
- 32:39
- do you have a name that comes to mind
- 32:41
- you you know you're from the Wall Street
- 32:42
- investment side putting together deals
- 32:46
- and mergers acquisitions that type of
- 32:48
- thing is isn't there someone that could
- 32:51
- step up from Wall Street that knows the
- 32:53
- inner workings of the glass Siegel and
- 32:55
- all that stuff that could step forward
- 32:57
- and say hey I I can I can clean this up
- 33:00
- yeah but that person is standing on the
- 33:03
- drain of the swamp preventing it from
- 33:06
- draining well I'm just saying there have
- 33:08
- been people in the past I mean I think a
- 33:11
- Teddy Roosevelt that just said this has
- 33:14
- gotten out of hand we got to do
- 33:17
- something hopefully that's not all true
- 33:22
- so I'll make a prediction here okay
- 33:25
- right now when the livin is easy when
- 33:29
- the stock markets hot making record
- 33:31
- highs from time to time maybe people go
- 33:33
- down today but in general it's you know
- 33:35
- record levels when interest rates are
- 33:37
- low there's no real earth urgency to
- 33:40
- clean up financial markets give us a
- 33:43
- crash and as happened in 29 33 you'll
- 33:47
- have the
- 33:48
- of the pakora communication yeah if we
- 33:51
- think about you know that that was a you
- 33:54
- know a body that you know looked at what
- 33:56
- had happened in the crash and out of
- 33:58
- that we get the Securities Act of 33 and
- 34:01
- Exchange Act of 34 we get an SEC we get
- 34:03
- this to get that it didn't go far enough
- 34:05
- obviously because they put just Kennedy
- 34:07
- in georgia's SEC which is kind of stupid
- 34:09
- but we're gonna need to go through
- 34:12
- something like that now that's why I say
- 34:15
- guy like trey Gowdy and trey Gowdy has
- 34:16
- already announced I believe that he's
- 34:19
- gonna leave Congress I may have that
- 34:22
- wrong but I think I remember that
- 34:23
- correctly yes Chaffetz right also also
- 34:28
- Gary I think I may have that wrong
- 34:32
- forgive me if I do but he's a guy oh I
- 34:35
- believe came up as a state prosecutor
- 34:38
- not a US Attorney so he's not in the
- 34:41
- Department of Justice do he you know he
- 34:45
- is a just the facts ma'am time type of
- 34:48
- person that's the type of person we need
- 34:50
- sitting over the somebody with
- 34:51
- experience who has prosecuted cases and
- 34:54
- you know as a sterling record and then
- 34:57
- we need to you know then with that
- 34:59
- person you need a team and you're there
- 35:01
- rentable I mean you need a team of
- 35:02
- forensic accountants you know people
- 35:05
- like that guy Markopolos who spotted the
- 35:10
- the madoff fraud you know that what what
- 35:13
- is I would argue is the regulatory
- 35:15
- apparatus that we have now is is for
- 35:17
- shell you know they they have not really
- 35:20
- brought to justice the true perpetrators
- 35:24
- of the crash in 2007 through 9 because
- 35:28
- it's about you know party people it's
- 35:30
- Republicans it's Democrats it's people
- 35:32
- with a lot of money and and you know
- 35:34
- SWAT and you know both sides look at the
- 35:37
- other sides with their guns you know the
- 35:40
- other side with the guns drawn each to
- 35:41
- them and they say we don't want to kill
- 35:43
- each other so let's let's make nice and
- 35:46
- smooth this over and pretend and then we
- 35:47
- fix everything well and that's sorry go
- 35:51
- ahead and choice and we need to stop
- 35:53
- that and we need to pick on some ripe
- 35:55
- fruit and I think you know the ripeness
- 35:56
- of all not just cuz I spent so much time
- 35:58
- on it you know here you have a team
- 36:01
- but seriously expected to be present in
- 36:04
- the United States Hillary Clinton and
- 36:06
- Bill Clinton you know smart people a lot
- 36:09
- of experienced lawyers both of them you
- 36:12
- know who have perpetrated the largest
- 36:14
- unprosecuted fraud in history in the
- 36:16
- guise of charity make an example on a
- 36:19
- team yeah and you make an example of
- 36:22
- that with some real firepower say and
- 36:27
- then you also give I would the
- 36:29
- regulator's perhaps an incentive in
- 36:31
- other words maybe cut them in for a
- 36:32
- piece of what they collect and suddenly
- 36:36
- you'll see that you know people dance to
- 36:37
- a very different tune can that be done
- 36:40
- legally Charles so what they do right
- 36:42
- now they're cut them in for a percentage
- 36:44
- of what they cuz if you report somebody
- 36:45
- who's cheating on IRS right now they
- 36:47
- give you a 15 percent reward we'll call
- 36:49
- them up and tell them about Hillary
- 36:55
- like I said we're all plaintiffs here I
- 36:57
- mean in addition to everything else
- 36:59
- shows you have the number we could call
- 37:01
- them right now yeah IRS 1-800 so the
- 37:04
- just lois lerner history repeats because
- 37:09
- she went in front of Congress and I
- 37:11
- think we had the pride hard drives again
- 37:14
- right the well oops we did it again we
- 37:18
- accidently pried the hard drives open we
- 37:20
- thought they were sardine cans I was a
- 37:22
- mistake do you remember that well it's
- 37:25
- even worse than that the very same
- 37:28
- person who was dispatched I want to say
- 37:32
- her name in this Katherine Duval and
- 37:35
- they have that wrong but the very same
- 37:37
- person who is dispatched to recover the
- 37:40
- missing IRS emails is the person who is
- 37:43
- dispatched to recover the missing
- 37:45
- Hillary emails the very same person
- 37:47
- that's about that thing yeah that's
- 37:56
- that's amazing captain duvalle I'm
- 37:58
- looking that up now
- 37:59
- double trouble IRS lawyer now heads
- 38:01
- email Clinton production yeah it is
- 38:04
- Katherine Duvall with a see Katherine
- 38:06
- Duvall Wow that's well the thing that
- 38:10
- obviously reminds us all of this Hillary
- 38:15
- server and emails humi server and emails
- 38:18
- is the fact that now we have Imran with
- 38:21
- an off-site server collecting emails
- 38:25
- with the blackberries with the laptops
- 38:28
- thin clients this is from the capital
- 38:30
- police report are those pride hard
- 38:36
- drives those smashed hard drives
- 38:37
- whatever whatever you want to call them
- 38:39
- the ones I interviewed the marine about
- 38:41
- Edward let's call them tampered with
- 38:42
- yeah ok tampered hard drives work is
- 38:47
- that the treasure trove is that the
- 38:49
- trove of troves I mean maybe humor only
- 38:52
- had the last four years and Imran being
- 38:56
- there 13 years in that position maybe
- 38:58
- those hard drives were the treasure
- 39:00
- trove you know certainly could be I mean
- 39:04
- once once its tampered with the thing
- 39:06
- that I'm interested in knowing because
- 39:08
- of course Andre Taggart identified that
- 39:10
- the hard drives had been opened or
- 39:13
- tampered with in some way but that does
- 39:16
- not preclude the possibility of forensic
- 39:19
- data recovery you know there's still the
- 39:20
- platters inside the hard drive a lot of
- 39:23
- people don't this is all shrouded in
- 39:26
- technical both financial and technology
- 39:29
- jargon most people in my experience see
- 39:33
- a computer and they think the screen is
- 39:35
- the computer and the the box that
- 39:37
- contains the CPU and all the electronics
- 39:39
- is the hard drive not the case Andre
- 39:42
- Taggart was talking to us about what he
- 39:44
- observed quite clearly as internal
- 39:47
- either two-and-a-half inch or three and
- 39:49
- a half inch hard drives that someone had
- 39:50
- unscrewed the metal casing of or to try
- 39:53
- to access the interior components which
- 39:56
- once you open it you have compromised
- 39:58
- the integrity of it however even if it's
- 40:01
- been opened smashed whatever a cleanroom
- 40:03
- forensic type recovery may be able to
- 40:05
- get some of the data so that's what we
- 40:07
- really need to know from the DC capital
- 40:09
- police and from the FBI is what if any
- 40:12
- data has been able to been recovered
- 40:14
- from those hard drive yeah well in
- 40:16
- addition though Jason I'm bill Binney
- 40:18
- has been very adamant that all of those
- 40:22
- emails anything sent electronically is
- 40:26
- has been captured by the NSA
- 40:28
- that's right so destroy hard drives may
- 40:30
- have no effect why aren't we seeing the
- 40:32
- contents of these email why are they
- 40:34
- trickling out to Tom Fenton 500 at a
- 40:37
- time when there's hundreds of thousands
- 40:39
- of them they should be giving them all
- 40:41
- well this is where a second special
- 40:43
- prosecutor that the Judiciary Committee
- 40:47
- on the house side looks like they're
- 40:50
- moving forward with I didn't have time
- 40:51
- to post the letter because it was late
- 40:53
- last night but this is where they have
- 40:56
- the subpoena power where they could go
- 40:57
- and ask and they could call at the head
- 41:01
- of the NSA now I'm not sure who they
- 41:03
- usually an Admiral that's the head of
- 41:05
- the NSA I think he's a Navy guy I want
- 41:09
- to say I want to say rip Keith somebody
- 41:12
- but anyway I can't remember who's the
- 41:13
- head of NSA right now for some reason
- 41:15
- Rogers no Rodgers yeah I think it is
- 41:17
- Rogers yeah I was gonna say it was
- 41:20
- started with an are the Admiral Rogers
- 41:21
- yeah and you know they could do that
- 41:25
- exactly what Trish said produce all the
- 41:28
- emails match them against a forensic
- 41:31
- analysis like you're talking about of em
- 41:33
- Ron's hard drives with the artifact
- 41:35
- analysis see if there is a commonality
- 41:39
- even apart it's sort of like rebuilding
- 41:41
- a fingerprint and then say given the
- 41:46
- date and metadata of these emails over a
- 41:50
- period of years yeah if this really is
- 41:52
- the whole time Emraan was in the
- 41:53
- Congress if it really is the 14-year
- 41:55
- trove then the NSA could say we have an
- 42:00
- open door here to provide you everything
- 42:02
- because that's what's on this not only
- 42:04
- that every act of removing that hard
- 42:06
- drive opening that hard drive I mean
- 42:08
- that is spoliation of evidence that is
- 42:10
- obstruction of justice that is further
- 42:11
- indication of guilt
- 42:13
- so beyond you know pizza gate we've got
- 42:15
- all this evidence
- 42:16
- you know pizza gate yeah having nothing
- 42:18
- joking yeah yeah the lawyers trying to
- 42:21
- distract to that yeah when he's telling
- 42:23
- me oh you haven't read the complaint I
- 42:25
- was not calling him about the complaint
- 42:27
- I was calling him about the absurd press
- 42:28
- release right and the nature of the
- 42:31
- activities of his client he's just
- 42:33
- trying to misdirect
- 42:35
- because whoever let's say it's Rudy as a
- 42:36
- placeholder just so we have a name
- 42:38
- rather than saying the newly to be
- 42:40
- appointed prosecutor and I realize
- 42:42
- a lot of people have problems with rudy'
- 42:43
- I worked a little bit for Rudy and
- 42:44
- directly in New York so I have a good
- 42:47
- impression of them I realized a lot of
- 42:48
- people don't like Rudy but the if Rudy
- 42:52
- says hey these hard drives are the key
- 42:54
- to the whole deal and I want to go do a
- 42:58
- forensic analysis of these things now
- 43:01
- you're gonna have a whole bunch of
- 43:02
- people with their fingers in the pie
- 43:03
- here you've got NCIS that looked at it
- 43:06
- you've got FBI agents that looked at it
- 43:09
- you've got Washington Capitol Police
- 43:11
- do you see police that looked at it
- 43:12
- you've got Andre Taggart NYPD and his
- 43:15
- wife you've got NYPD
- 43:17
- well not NYPD because Tiger was in DC
- 43:19
- I'm sorry but in other cases but you
- 43:21
- actually you're right you do have NYPD
- 43:23
- if right
- 43:25
- those emails will reproduce for support
- 43:28
- humi at statement from the State
- 43:29
- Department from down indeed exactly to
- 43:31
- the Clinton Foundation which I believe
- 43:33
- they are then you throw in Justin
- 43:36
- Cooper's emails and brought Bryan
- 43:39
- Pagliano Z mail and you really have
- 43:43
- quite a trove quite a trove because
- 43:45
- people are going to be writing emails
- 43:46
- and forwarding classified State
- 43:49
- Department emails and saying hey I think
- 43:51
- it's a good time to invade and there's
- 43:53
- Charles has pointed out yeah as Charles
- 43:57
- has pointed out you know really the the
- 44:00
- best witness to come forward and the
- 44:04
- person who has the greatest burden on
- 44:08
- them to do so is Erik Braverman he knows
- 44:11
- all of this he can answer all these
- 44:14
- questions and he's he really is the key
- 44:17
- to resolving all of this because he knew
- 44:21
- exactly what was going on and is the one
- 44:24
- credible source upon which we could rely
- 44:31
- what's that curious how effectively you
- 44:34
- and I were blocked from speaking with
- 44:36
- him absolutely
- 44:37
- he was completely surrounded and there
- 44:42
- for a good reason
- 44:44
- they don't got to the bottom of it in
- 44:46
- five seconds well exactly you know you
- 44:49
- guys are the only ones here who have
- 44:51
- seen him in person and had some
- 44:52
- interaction with him I have done a
- 44:56
- hundred videos on Erik Braverman some
- 44:58
- people think that that's excessive but I
- 45:00
- I would agree with you Trish but I think
- 45:04
- there's something more here Erik
- 45:06
- Raymond's only and I totally agree with
- 45:08
- you that for the Clinton Foundation for
- 45:10
- that year and a half he was there and
- 45:12
- also the six years preceding where he
- 45:14
- was at McKenzie running the ihr see the
- 45:17
- hey relief Commission is going to be
- 45:19
- very interesting but Imran Awan has been
- 45:22
- on Capitol Hill almost I'm going to say
- 45:25
- going back to 1999 or at least at 2001
- 45:29
- because you have to look at
- 45:31
- inter-american inter-american is this a
- 45:34
- stepping stone to get the you know
- 45:38
- hacker kids for lack of a better word or
- 45:40
- a lack of a better group I mean
- 45:42
- literally but like the Disney runs the
- 45:44
- Disney kids the Congress has these
- 45:47
- hacker kids this hacker Kids program and
- 45:49
- they're bringing him in through
- 45:51
- inter-american most Americans would not
- 45:53
- believe if they googled or did a
- 45:55
- Wikipedia entry on inter-american now
- 45:58
- this was given to me directly by someone
- 45:59
- in Congress who's worked there a long
- 46:01
- time in the IT department okay so the
- 46:04
- source is rock-solid this is deep
- 46:07
- blackberry giving me this information
- 46:08
- firsthand and he is saying that this
- 46:11
- thing has been a launching pad for Spy
- 46:15
- Kids what didn't they do a movie Spy
- 46:18
- Kids yeah that was theirs is really bad
- 46:23
- this is the real-life spy
- 46:26
- yeah this is the real-life spy kids if I
- 46:30
- could if I can just jump in and say
- 46:32
- there's in addition to what you're
- 46:34
- describing which is diabolical
- 46:36
- there's another set of companion frauds
- 46:39
- that deserves increase and that has to
- 46:41
- do and it's something that Donald Trump
- 46:43
- should really would be listening to in
- 46:47
- 1995 or there abouts the consulting
- 46:50
- giant McKinsey made a decision to
- 46:52
- transfer its own knowledge center or to
- 46:57
- create a knowledge center in New Delhi
- 46:58
- and over time that act and then their
- 47:04
- convincing of General Electric
- 47:06
- to take a back office processing
- 47:08
- operation substant Lee called Genpact PA
- 47:11
- CT create that entity house g e--'s
- 47:14
- information in new delhi all of its back
- 47:17
- but most of its back-office information
- 47:19
- its corporate secrets there that then
- 47:21
- and the fact that you could pay people
- 47:24
- in india so much less assured in the
- 47:27
- transferal of thousands of companies in
- 47:31
- for secretive secret information
- 47:34
- including law firms and accounting firms
- 47:36
- and multinational companies into india
- 47:38
- where my suspicion is little of that
- 47:41
- information was actually kept secret
- 47:43
- well early on you've done extensive work
- 47:47
- in the in the fraud at General Electric
- 47:49
- right right right
- 47:52
- and so so the issue is you know we're
- 47:55
- sitting here you know you go in to get a
- 47:57
- medical procedure in this country and
- 47:59
- they'll tell you that you know there's
- 48:01
- this law HIPAA where you know you can't
- 48:04
- your information safe and blah blah blah
- 48:06
- blah blah we have no central protections
- 48:09
- to concerning our corporate secrets our
- 48:11
- business secrets our investment secrets
- 48:13
- most of us have information that has
- 48:16
- left the country and is kept in India or
- 48:19
- maybe Pakistan or elsewhere that needs
- 48:22
- to be exposed and that information needs
- 48:26
- to come home I mean just shop across the
- 48:29
- GE NPA Ct Rajat Gupta was chairman of
- 48:33
- that founding chairman and he was
- 48:36
- chairman he was managing partner of
- 48:37
- McKinsey during a period where India
- 48:41
- went from being socialist to being India
- 48:44
- Inc and he worked on these many across
- 48:47
- the entire spectrum of projects
- 48:49
- multilateral governments you know
- 48:52
- governments private entities he was the
- 48:54
- overall managing partner for nine years
- 48:56
- he left in 2007 in that position I
- 48:59
- believe and you know he subsequently
- 49:03
- spent time in prison for insider trading
- 49:05
- for true acting tipping information that
- 49:08
- he had gotten out of Goldman Sachs and
- 49:10
- maybe a gamble other places where he'd
- 49:12
- served on the board so we need to go
- 49:14
- back over that long history in period
- 49:16
- and ask our multinational banks and
- 49:19
- investment firms of law
- 49:20
- firms and accounting firms you know why
- 49:22
- are you outsourcing today these valuable
- 49:26
- secrets in these countries and then to
- 49:28
- Congress you know who in the hell I
- 49:31
- might understand one of the 435 Congress
- 49:34
- people hiring Imran our that I get I
- 49:37
- don't get George how many is it now 90
- 49:40
- you mean
- 49:42
- company that Imran provided blackberries
- 49:44
- to and laptops yeah how many Congress
- 49:47
- people used Imran now on or an imminent
- 49:49
- and their various people Daily Caller
- 49:51
- has it at eighty I through deep
- 49:53
- blackberry have it at at least 150 and
- 49:56
- if you I mean you know you've got to
- 49:58
- look at it over time but Charles I
- 50:00
- didn't want to say one thing
- 50:01
- III I think your approach is great and I
- 50:05
- think that the process here in our
- 50:08
- comments is really entity discovery
- 50:11
- discovering entities like Jim packed GA
- 50:14
- a GE M PA CT just unleashes our whole
- 50:19
- crowd on that type of research or Gupta
- 50:22
- and so forth which is so much laser
- 50:25
- focus is that ringing for Charles yeah
- 50:37
- just ring back
- 51:03
- you got trash there yep I'm on Charles
- 51:07
- I'm on la great all right let me try to
- 51:10
- a let's go back here I'm onna I'm not
- 51:13
- okay no I mean me oh we got Charles
- 51:15
- we're just trying to hold on okay yes
- 51:20
- so we're saying it Trish every time we
- 51:23
- get to the meat of the sandwich yeah
- 51:27
- decides to do a it yeah the moment
- 51:30
- Genpact got mentioned yeah well so I
- 51:35
- think we've recovered have we recovered
- 51:36
- can people here we're saying I think so
- 51:40
- so to get another one for you I I
- 51:43
- haven't focused on Pakistan but there's
- 51:45
- a there's a hilarious I was the director
- 51:48
- of an Indian cup and have in India quite
- 51:50
- a few times there's a steric offend
- 51:53
- Asian called the American India found a
- 51:55
- ssin and if you want an entity to look
- 51:59
- at just google that there's a great
- 52:02
- journalist who used to work for the I
- 52:04
- think Washington free beacon a lot of
- 52:06
- Goodman wrote a piece that's very
- 52:08
- helpful on this subject but the number
- 52:10
- of fraudsters people have actually been
- 52:13
- convicted of fraud associated with the
- 52:16
- American India foundation is hilarious
- 52:19
- and Bill Clinton is the honorary
- 52:22
- chairman of it has been since formation
- 52:26
- so here's a case study all right this is
- 52:29
- vain but I've told you I think before
- 52:31
- about or tells first law take anything
- 52:33
- to do with the Clintons anything at
- 52:35
- random put in Clinton put in the name
- 52:40
- whether the entity or the person and put
- 52:42
- in the word fraud and see what you find
- 52:44
- okay that's the number one Google search
- 52:47
- methodology just add fraud when you've
- 52:52
- launched a thousand searchers Charles
- 52:55
- Estonia so what I love about this
- 52:57
- process even though we have been taken
- 53:00
- down three times in a row two
- 53:02
- is it's almost like watching Fox first
- 53:05
- we have you know trucker Carlson then we
- 53:07
- have Hannity then we have bret baier and
- 53:10
- then we have Lou Dobbs and it's just
- 53:12
- it's just consider each down time go get
- 53:14
- a break and then come back and watch the
- 53:16
- next segment oh you don't have to wait a
- 53:18
- week to see Charles or tell you could
- 53:20
- see them here all the time
- 53:22
- can I share some issues Hill with
- 53:24
- everybody about Imran Awad ties to
- 53:26
- Hezbollah definitely those yeah so we're
- 53:31
- receiving a report that of course the
- 53:33
- top Democrats are scrambling to distance
- 53:35
- themselves from the Awan scandal and
- 53:37
- we've seen certain elements of the
- 53:39
- mainstream media not even touch it has
- 53:41
- there been any reporting in the New York
- 53:43
- Times or there was the all at our
- 53:44
- connection that he was a member of the
- 53:47
- same car dealership so that was kind of
- 53:50
- their money funnel their New York Times
- 53:52
- said that no previous reporting so
- 53:55
- there's there's been a real attempt to
- 53:57
- avoid it there but what's now now now
- 54:01
- known is that Imran and the various Awan
- 54:05
- brothers that were involved in this
- 54:06
- scandal had above top secret clearance
- 54:09
- and that was made possible through
- 54:11
- debbie Wasserman Schultz in that Nancy
- 54:13
- Pelosi did they confirm that this is
- 54:15
- confirmed by the Hudson group so this is
- 54:18
- Intel coming to okay well I need to see
- 54:21
- that the times because I there's gonna
- 54:23
- be times yeah why would that give you
- 54:25
- more well no I just want to be able to
- 54:28
- go to the people who said when I
- 54:30
- produced the documents from Jackie
- 54:31
- Speier that said that they had
- 54:33
- top-secret clearance that that they all
- 54:36
- said I didn't know what I was talking
- 54:38
- about and my sources were were garbage
- 54:40
- that I just want to remind those people
- 54:43
- who said that that I had produced those
- 54:45
- documents I produced a letter from
- 54:47
- Jackie Speier that asked for those
- 54:49
- individuals to get top-secret clearance
- 54:52
- I've been shunted by several members of
- 54:55
- Congress saying I don't want to know
- 54:56
- what I'm talking about right when I said
- 54:58
- that they had top secret clearance well
- 55:00
- and we've got you know intelligence
- 55:02
- sources who we're not saying exactly who
- 55:05
- they're affiliated with but they've been
- 55:07
- very accurate in the past and they go on
- 55:09
- to tell me that the CIA has video
- 55:11
- surveillance footage of Imran meeting
- 55:13
- with Iranian Hezbollah terror
- 55:16
- no known terrorist dr. Ali Al Attar Ya
- 55:21
- Allah thar no I know I mean they ran a
- 55:23
- car dealership together so they have a
- 55:26
- hundred thousand dollar loan or
- 55:28
- something Imran that's just the one they
- 55:32
- caught what they do is the way the
- 55:35
- funnel works the way that the the the
- 55:38
- car dealership funnel works is every
- 55:39
- time you want to do operations let's say
- 55:42
- in let's say every time you want to have
- 55:45
- someone in Iran get a new heart and I
- 55:48
- believe they were running a organ
- 55:50
- harvesting scam you say okay we'll send
- 55:53
- over from Iraq and this is where all--it
- 55:56
- are controlled the resources he
- 55:58
- controlled the doctors in Mosul they'd
- 56:01
- say okay we'll send over a you know
- 56:04
- remember that game sends so-and-so over
- 56:07
- Red Rover Red Rover Red Rover send a
- 56:09
- doctor okay yeah right and then hey
- 56:12
- could you send a heart over to because
- 56:14
- Red Rover it's not very kid without a
- 56:16
- heart doctor Red Rover needs a heart so
- 56:19
- they would fly in both a heart and
- 56:21
- doctor Red Rover over to to Iran to do
- 56:29
- the thing now you've got to pay for that
- 56:31
- yeah right now you could write a check
- 56:33
- and say hey I'm paying for a heart and
- 56:35
- we're a embargoed country right and
- 56:38
- here's the check and I'm gonna send it
- 56:39
- through the internet or you could give a
- 56:42
- you could buy a car okay so you're gonna
- 56:45
- have all at our being your money
- 56:47
- muttering again your oh but bring again
- 56:52
- here we go I think you're back okay
- 56:55
- right so all ATAR is gonna be your money
- 56:57
- man for and I think the I I think the
- 56:59
- numbers gonna be around a hundred
- 57:01
- thousand so a major organs or I think
- 57:04
- are gonna be her organ right sir for
- 57:05
- Oregon is 100k about an organ so they
- 57:08
- caught one this is against the selected
- 57:11
- media they caught one transaction of a
- 57:13
- hundred thousand and they say oh he's
- 57:14
- loading money it's a loan it's always a
- 57:17
- loan it's never pay for an organ right
- 57:18
- right so we caught one loan you didn't
- 57:21
- catch one loan you caught one of a ton
- 57:23
- of transactions I know was sitting on
- 57:26
- consider all at are consider all at our
- 57:28
- first
- 57:29
- here's a guy who did the nice favor to
- 57:33
- his female patients of when they were
- 57:34
- under anesthesia of attacking them
- 57:36
- sexually you always want that in a
- 57:38
- doctor right there that's reputable
- 57:39
- right at the top of the list you want
- 57:41
- that then he's had his license suspended
- 57:43
- and then also revoked okay so this is a
- 57:47
- guy who now practices medicine in
- 57:49
- Virginia right as a plastic surgeon he
- 57:51
- was
- 57:52
- I believe in internal he had a GI degree
- 57:56
- but it was such a fake that he got that
- 57:59
- revoke from him and now I guess you
- 58:02
- could do Botox if you don't know
- 58:04
- anything whatsoever about medicine and
- 58:06
- you're a hezbollah hezbollah bagman
- 58:09
- allah Tarr is a hezbollah bagman well
- 58:11
- and you're talking about our husband
- 58:13
- since 2004 when Wolfowitz worked with if
- 58:15
- this report has Imran and dr. al at our
- 58:19
- meeting in Beirut well and I'll tell you
- 58:22
- exactly there are the many claims I'll
- 58:24
- have I'll tell you exactly what the
- 58:25
- meeting point is it's gonna be at the
- 58:27
- American University in Beirut and
- 58:29
- because that's where the original
- 58:32
- program started with all this stuff with
- 58:34
- the original you know hearts I'm not
- 58:39
- gonna say who the hearts were for
- 58:40
- because I have to protect the people
- 58:42
- might help me someday but I'm going to
- 58:47
- say na z zu di did a whole bunch of
- 58:48
- things on this na z zu D is from Lebanon
- 58:51
- he started that program the heart
- 58:53
- program in university a favorite
- 58:55
- University of American University in
- 58:57
- Beirut he came through London got his
- 59:00
- degree in London degree quotes and then
- 59:04
- went to Oklahoma City where I believe he
- 59:07
- did one of Dick Cheney's heart
- 59:08
- transplants yeah so this is all yes yes
- 59:12
- and you'll find it on the Internet Dick
- 59:14
- Cheney going to Oklahoma Oklahoma City
- 59:17
- the only place in America that does
- 59:20
- transplants without a major University
- 59:23
- Hospital funding that transplant program
- 59:26
- so what does that indicate what what the
- 59:28
- way it works is a pyramid you have all
- 59:30
- your doctors down here your
- 59:31
- dermatologists and so forth and then
- 59:33
- your surgeons yeah at the top of the
- 59:35
- pyramid is your transplant people that's
- 59:39
- the top of the pyramid that's why you
- 59:40
- need a University Hospital
- 59:42
- sure underneath it so you bubble up to
- 59:44
- the top with only the best right now I'm
- 59:47
- not saying OKC doesn't have a lot of
- 59:49
- great surgeons it does now because of
- 59:51
- the nausea zooty connection they
- 59:53
- actually did recruited a lot of great
- 59:55
- surgeons so I do not want to talk about
- 59:58
- the surgeons now but I'm saying in the
- 60:00
- old days when na c zu d was cutting and
- 60:02
- gutting and learning on the job and i
- 60:05
- think there's even stories out there
- 60:07
- where people say do you know what you're
- 60:09
- doing na z really yeah it's just like
- 60:11
- are you sure you know what you're doing
- 60:13
- that's a bad question for a transplant
- 60:15
- it is I don't want to I don't want
- 60:19
- nausea he's passed away now so I don't
- 60:21
- want to tarnish the memory of him but I
- 60:26
- do want to say that akhtar this guy is a
- 60:31
- bag man he's a he's a he's an organ
- 60:34
- harvesting Hezbollah go-between bag man
- 60:38
- and it was such a obvious funnel with
- 60:42
- the CIA agency with the in the Falls
- 60:45
- Church Mustafa page at you through the
- 60:49
- mosque you mean yeah now can I give you
- 60:52
- a little bit of good news sure that's
- 60:54
- great news though because this is all
- 60:56
- independent from my stuff yes this is
- 60:58
- good that's right
- 60:59
- can i that's how to the good news that's
- 61:01
- from the Hutt's okay they're very
- 61:03
- reliable so good so in the good news
- 61:06
- column our crowdsource community member
- 61:08
- of the dude who you remember was going
- 61:10
- in for some spinal surgery and wanted
- 61:12
- our input on the quality of the Benjamin
- 61:15
- Franklin or Thomas Jefferson Hospital in
- 61:16
- Philadelphia right just emailed me he's
- 61:19
- recovering feeling good thanks to
- 61:21
- everyone for the prayers and the well
- 61:23
- wishes be glad he didn't go to Temple
- 61:25
- that's right no I'm sorry just to
- 61:27
- continue with this report from the
- 61:29
- Hudson group in a separate no we've
- 61:32
- heard from them previously that there's
- 61:34
- a lot of power military activity going
- 61:36
- on in South America and interestingly
- 61:37
- enough you know this stuff is also
- 61:39
- interconnected we're learning that Putin
- 61:42
- you know Russia obviously in China have
- 61:44
- agreed as Trish has reported many times
- 61:46
- to move away from the petrodollar and
- 61:48
- begin trading oil with gold-backed
- 61:51
- currency we've heard about you know
- 61:53
- etherium being
- 61:54
- nationalised in russia a theorem
- 61:55
- obviously not a gold-backed currency but
- 61:58
- we're seeing moves away from the US
- 62:00
- dollar
- 62:00
- can we get do we have to do the
- 62:03
- financials well I think it's important
- 62:06
- okay go ahead it speaks to the sanctions
- 62:08
- that are being pushed against Russia
- 62:10
- okay okay okay so that's saying that
- 62:12
- this is the explanation for the
- 62:14
- sanctions you know we're hearing Russia
- 62:15
- hack Russia hack Russia hacked it's
- 62:17
- almost the same as tying Saddam Hussein
- 62:20
- to 9/11 to instigate a war in Iraq here
- 62:25
- we're pushing this fake Russia hacked
- 62:26
- scandal something we've been you know
- 62:29
- pushing against by saying it's not
- 62:30
- Russia that hacked its internal hackers
- 62:33
- that have you know leaked and stolen
- 62:36
- well sorry I have stolen money that
- 62:38
- resulted in leaks from people in the
- 62:42
- deep state or on the on the better side
- 62:44
- of this correct right IIIi just don't
- 62:47
- want another time on Beirut University I
- 62:50
- feel like I gotta go with the American
- 62:52
- University but we've got so much of this
- 62:53
- animation coming in we've got Charles
- 62:56
- onto so I really be interested to hear
- 62:59
- about the gold right the impact of this
- 63:05
- because you just you were on Fox
- 63:06
- yesterday I believe talking about some
- 63:08
- of this no no I'm fucked you talk about
- 63:11
- of what now Russia and China joining
- 63:15
- together to shun the petro dollar in
- 63:18
- favor of gold back currencies and that
- 63:20
- being the real reason for us sanctions
- 63:23
- against Iran Russia sure so you know
- 63:26
- that my theory is that you know right
- 63:31
- now you cut through all the fancy talk
- 63:34
- when supply is greater than demand what
- 63:39
- happens prices oh oh well demand is
- 63:43
- greater than supply prices rise right
- 63:47
- right so right now we're in a in a mode
- 63:49
- where wealth has always been
- 63:51
- concentrated it always will be
- 63:53
- concentrated there's enormous wealth
- 63:56
- looking for places to find a home and in
- 64:00
- the stock market its strip at the fang
- 64:03
- stocks you know Facebook Amazon Netflix
- 64:06
- Google
- 64:07
- rip them out and there really hasn't
- 64:10
- been a gigantic upward price movement in
- 64:14
- liquid securities individual stocks look
- 64:17
- at the bond market central banks have
- 64:19
- depressed artificially depressed
- 64:21
- interest rates so we're in a zone where
- 64:24
- you know if you if you're accustomed to
- 64:26
- doing classic analysis you're not gonna
- 64:29
- find many bargains in publicly traded
- 64:31
- securities or even in real estate so
- 64:33
- some countries stepped up and says ok
- 64:36
- we're a big serious country where Russia
- 64:38
- now we're China two big countries we are
- 64:41
- gonna create an instrument that unlike
- 64:43
- any Western currency has something
- 64:46
- actual backing it up even if it's ten
- 64:48
- percent gold you're gonna see a stampede
- 64:51
- to that current to that instrument and
- 64:54
- the problem is not and if you're a small
- 64:56
- player and you want to buy you know
- 64:58
- under $2,000 with the gold you can do
- 64:59
- that but if you're sitting on a hundred
- 65:01
- and fifty billion dollars you can't
- 65:04
- really buy enough gold so so this move
- 65:07
- you're absolutely right is potentially
- 65:09
- destabilizing to the Fiat backed
- 65:11
- currency system see how the fact is a
- 65:13
- polite way of saying its back
- 65:15
- questionnaire in which all of our lives
- 65:18
- are based you know every major market
- 65:21
- around the world has a fiat currency so
- 65:23
- the first one to put in the currency
- 65:25
- backed by something of real value will
- 65:27
- see a flood of wealth towards it which
- 65:29
- is why in my plan on my side I suggested
- 65:32
- that we do that and Charles sorted to
- 65:37
- your point where we have all of this
- 65:38
- money trying to find a home you know our
- 65:41
- system of forced savings for retirement
- 65:45
- college health care really sidelines all
- 65:50
- this money and and is artificially
- 65:52
- inflates the markets as well because it
- 65:55
- has to be invested somewhere and they go
- 65:59
- after these these instruments like you
- 66:01
- were saying the you know blue chip
- 66:05
- between quotes stocks that you know
- 66:08
- really have very little substantively to
- 66:12
- support their valuations this is why I
- 66:15
- said you know you're in 1998 and when
- 66:18
- they first tried what they call they
- 66:20
- always have to have a say
- 66:21
- see Sam humming name so they called it
- 66:23
- quantitative easing yeah the real thing
- 66:25
- they're doing is debasing the US dollar
- 66:27
- and debasing Western currencies lowering
- 66:30
- their real values we've been operating
- 66:32
- since December 31st 2008 around the
- 66:35
- world in a system where people with
- 66:38
- wealth do not have a place they can put
- 66:41
- money where they can take very low risk
- 66:44
- and get a real return ie a return after
- 66:47
- inflation and that is very different
- 66:50
- than the world prior to December 31st
- 66:52
- 2008 where pick your period but you know
- 66:58
- for long periods of time it was possible
- 67:00
- for people who are just starting out
- 67:02
- instead of taking risks and crazy
- 67:05
- securities they don't understand to go o
- 67:07
- to a bank to get a CD to put lock your
- 67:10
- money away and when you take it out 5 or
- 67:13
- 10 years later or whatever it is you've
- 67:15
- got more money in real terms then you
- 67:18
- start it out with the central bankers
- 67:21
- change that system unwisely and have up
- 67:24
- and have created a gambling mentality
- 67:26
- all the rules have been thrown away and
- 67:29
- you know there forestalling a day where
- 67:32
- they pay the price Piper and one of the
- 67:33
- signs of paying the piper is when as you
- 67:36
- say Jason or George a serious economy a
- 67:41
- growing economy like China and maybe
- 67:42
- with Russia offers up the investing
- 67:45
- world something that's backed by gold
- 67:47
- now you well and again on the gold I you
- 67:52
- may not be aware that China has seven
- 67:56
- times the the mining reserves than the
- 68:02
- US and they've been acquiring them
- 68:04
- quietly around the world very quickly
- 68:06
- they've also greatly advanced their
- 68:10
- production standards so that they're
- 68:13
- rich people watch they'll just go to
- 68:19
- another window and watch humor for a
- 68:20
- little bit and tell us what Schumer did
- 68:22
- let's just see if this comes back up
- 68:24
- real quick it may or may not the breath
- 68:26
- air are see people have already taken
- 68:28
- the hint that it's just a commercial
- 68:30
- yeah okay wait another I think we may be
- 68:32
- back I think we may be I can hear you
- 68:35
- okay let's just gotta get this dream
- 68:37
- going now it might have gone to another
- 68:40
- another stream here let's see so David
- 68:45
- you were telling Trish and I should need
- 68:46
- to shut up about finances no no no okay
- 68:50
- its back on Charles the one thing I
- 68:52
- wanted to wrap up with this Intel report
- 68:55
- is that because you know you were
- 68:57
- talking about currencies backed by gold
- 68:59
- the final bit of information that the
- 69:02
- Hudson report is giving us about this
- 69:04
- it suggests that Putin is encouraging
- 69:06
- Venezuela to join Russia and China in
- 69:09
- participating with them in the no new
- 69:11
- the new gold-backed currency trade for
- 69:14
- oil again moving away from the petro
- 69:17
- dollar and of course and it's not just
- 69:19
- Venezuela though it's Iran it's well but
- 69:21
- according to this report though
- 69:23
- according to this hour Trish and they're
- 69:25
- saying you know obviously the more
- 69:26
- oil-rich nations that are trading for
- 69:29
- gold back currencies this is a people
- 69:32
- may not realize the impact that this
- 69:34
- would have on the value of the dollar
- 69:35
- the overall US economy I mean this has
- 69:38
- the potential to destroy the US economy
- 69:40
- in very quick fashion and in ways we
- 69:44
- cannot respond to I mean they're a
- 69:47
- currency collapse like what's been
- 69:49
- experienced in Venezuela for the past
- 69:52
- several months and years even is what a
- 69:55
- direct assault on the petro dollar could
- 69:57
- result in do you guys want to discuss
- 69:59
- that a little bit sure I I will
- 70:02
- respectfully disagree with you on that
- 70:04
- okay because because if you take each of
- 70:08
- those kinds take the biggest one China
- 70:11
- go to UN C as in Charlie T is a Thomas a
- 70:15
- Diaz and dog uncle Ted national economy
- 70:19
- data look at the size of the household
- 70:22
- consumption market in China which is you
- 70:24
- know the second largest economy the
- 70:26
- household consumption that is to say all
- 70:28
- the goods and services purchased inside
- 70:30
- China in the most recent year 2015 for
- 70:33
- which there is data is a tiny fraction
- 70:36
- of the US market so when we talk about
- 70:39
- annual activity the Chinese market is
- 70:43
- still very small Russia's infinitesimal
- 70:45
- Venezuela that's not what we're talking
- 70:46
- about Iran is also not
- 70:49
- talk about even turkeys not worth
- 70:50
- talking about so that's in the annual
- 70:52
- output they're still tiny compared to
- 70:55
- the US market so whatever but then when
- 70:57
- you talk about wealth the total stock of
- 71:00
- wealth controlled by the US and in the
- 71:04
- US has put here by foreigners who don't
- 71:07
- like the local conditions so huge that
- 71:10
- you know they could go down this track
- 71:13
- and I actually applaud them for creating
- 71:15
- a Russian a gold-backed currency we need
- 71:17
- to do the same sort of thing the second
- 71:19
- we do that it would be a torrent of
- 71:22
- money into the u.s. indeed I think going
- 71:26
- for year you know we talk about all
- 71:27
- price for a second I think well price
- 71:29
- and energy prices are headed lower not
- 71:32
- higher that's the great benefit of the
- 71:34
- US if that happens but I'm not price of
- 71:37
- oil I'm talking about the Richard Nixon
- 71:40
- and Henry Kissinger system of forcing
- 71:44
- every oil-producing nation and every oil
- 71:46
- purchasing nation to utilize US dollars
- 71:49
- to do those transactions and the threat
- 71:51
- of Russia and China encouraging other
- 71:54
- nations to go to other currencies the
- 71:56
- impact that would have
- 71:57
- irrespective house I gotcha and what I'm
- 72:00
- telling you is this so the US economy is
- 72:03
- roughly seventeen trillion dollars in
- 72:06
- size the global economies were roughly
- 72:08
- seventy five trillion in size the stock
- 72:11
- of Global Wealth was more like two
- 72:12
- hundred and fifty three hundred trillion
- 72:15
- dollars right so what I'm trying to tell
- 72:17
- you is that that that stock of wealth is
- 72:20
- in no way gonna put money in Venezuela
- 72:23
- or Russia or China it's just not going
- 72:26
- to do it okay but Charles from my
- 72:29
- perspective it it isn't so much the
- 72:31
- absolute value of those markets and
- 72:34
- their economies to me if it's the and
- 72:38
- there are more and more of these
- 72:39
- countries those are just a few but it
- 72:41
- seems and many of the Latin American
- 72:43
- countries seem to be looking to Russia
- 72:47
- and China to work to join them in a
- 72:51
- gold-backed currency that it it's a
- 72:54
- trend that it it's the trend itself that
- 72:59
- bodes badly for the US
- 73:02
- and its ability to negotiate and work
- 73:07
- foreign policy that is to our benefit
- 73:12
- right does it weakens us I think in the
- 73:15
- geopolitical sphere in theory it does
- 73:19
- but you know in practice you know it's
- 73:23
- it's fine to say that you want to put
- 73:25
- money in gold I'm a big believer in
- 73:27
- doing that but the real advantage that
- 73:30
- we have and we share with Russia and
- 73:33
- that China does not have is we have a
- 73:35
- vast stock of arable land and clean
- 73:38
- water okay
- 73:40
- that is a real asset that we do have and
- 73:43
- it's much larger in value than any gold
- 73:45
- anybody has so and we also have two
- 73:49
- centuries of tradition where we sort of
- 73:52
- respect the laws that are on the books
- 73:54
- in recent years not so much you know so
- 73:57
- so I mean I agree that the move by
- 74:00
- Russia in China and then and whoever
- 74:02
- else is doing this is a threat but I
- 74:05
- think I hope it'll prod our own central
- 74:08
- bank and Western Central Bank's to
- 74:09
- realize that they need to return to the
- 74:11
- sound money strategy and for the
- 74:13
- interests of the 250 trillion not the 16
- 74:17
- trillion per year US economy okay and so
- 74:22
- that I think it's good on balance now
- 74:24
- can we move the conversation a little
- 74:26
- bit towards back towards the awan
- 74:28
- situation let me let me see if I can put
- 74:30
- the two together okay is because I think
- 74:32
- you guys are you know the Harvard
- 74:36
- trained economists and and you talk in
- 74:38
- macroeconomics and it's beautiful thing
- 74:41
- to hear you know and I do agree with all
- 74:46
- three of your analysis but there is this
- 74:48
- thing called the intelligence agencies
- 74:50
- and they see the world below the surface
- 74:54
- they thought breaking news from Fox that
- 74:56
- North Korea has launched a ballistic
- 74:58
- missile well Hudson group has previously
- 75:01
- told us would this is my point exactly
- 75:04
- it couldn't have been towards where yeah
- 75:07
- where does this direct it you gonna have
- 75:09
- to take a look I'm sure it's toward the
- 75:10
- ocean and towards you towards towards
- 75:12
- you pan it's not gonna be toward Korea
- 75:14
- but they did that just to get in the way
- 75:17
- my I'm not saying they did that but let
- 75:21
- me can I finish and then I you can go
- 75:23
- back to the vessel yeah yeah can I know
- 75:27
- the the intelligence services could care
- 75:31
- less about everything above the board
- 75:34
- above the board all the things we've
- 75:36
- been talking about macroeconomics mean
- 75:38
- absolutely nothing to the intelligence
- 75:40
- services the intelligence services make
- 75:43
- the money below the board rat lines are
- 75:45
- below the board the dark web is below
- 75:48
- the board okay all these services the
- 75:51
- way that you from a geopolitical
- 75:53
- perspective look at this is I'm the King
- 75:55
- of Morocco what are my assets it's not
- 75:59
- land and it's not clean water right it's
- 76:02
- my people my people have hearts my
- 76:06
- people have kidneys my people have
- 76:08
- livers and they're fresh and I can
- 76:12
- deliver them anywhere in the world if
- 76:13
- you live in Gabon or ivory Cote ivory or
- 76:19
- another country like that you can say I
- 76:22
- have gold I have blood diamonds I have
- 76:26
- those types of resources mineral and
- 76:29
- precious gem resources that's how you
- 76:33
- create a silk way Airlines silk way
- 76:36
- Airlines was not created in as a you
- 76:41
- know come visit Bulgaria made sure they
- 76:44
- put up a few posters of people put up a
- 76:46
- few signs and had a few art exhibitions
- 76:48
- but subway Airlines was D you WP and
- 76:53
- sarin gas and blood diamonds you have to
- 76:57
- have two-way trade to blood diamonds and
- 76:59
- people going back and forth you're gonna
- 77:01
- find that silk way when it's going back
- 77:04
- is taking people and it's also going to
- 77:07
- be taking some mineral assets but
- 77:11
- minerals being too heavy it's gonna be
- 77:13
- mainly diamonds blood and blood diamonds
- 77:15
- that's going to be the the exchange that
- 77:17
- the intelligence services care about and
- 77:19
- they literally could not care at all
- 77:22
- about what's happening above the board
- 77:24
- unless you start saying
- 77:27
- as soon as for instance you start saying
- 77:28
- Venezuela is gonna go to the gold
- 77:30
- they're saying hey wait a minute
- 77:32
- that's our oil we had already sold
- 77:34
- futures on the dark web on that to our
- 77:37
- group of Frank Giustra investment
- 77:39
- partners they're getting in the way of
- 77:40
- that now we're gonna have to take that
- 77:42
- down so that's where geopolitics gets
- 77:45
- involved here
- 77:46
- we're in Ronald Juan is is in the center
- 77:49
- of all that illicit trade the whole
- 77:53
- octopus all comes into with foreign
- 77:57
- policy
- 77:57
- maybe the macro economics comes into New
- 78:01
- York where Charles lists out lives but
- 78:05
- geopolitics comes into Washington DC and
- 78:08
- comes into capital somebody's got their
- 78:10
- I can hear you I'm getting a feedback so
- 78:25
- somebody turn their speaker down okay so
- 78:30
- so my point being is Washington DC plays
- 78:33
- a huge cycle in this Capitol Hill plays
- 78:36
- a huge cycle they sent it our self
- 78:38
- services committee with John McCain
- 78:40
- Lindsey Graham Hillary Clinton David
- 78:42
- Petraeus Joe Biden that crew that plays
- 78:46
- a huge part of this and that is exactly
- 78:49
- why that is exactly why the Awan
- 78:52
- brothers are on Capitol Hill because
- 78:54
- it's that spying where a dollar worth
- 78:57
- the spying gets you a million dollars in
- 79:00
- return okay so that's that brings the
- 79:03
- whole thing down from a 40,000 foot
- 79:04
- level down to the White House basement
- 79:06
- where the router is right and so that's
- 79:11
- where if we can undo that rat's nest it
- 79:17
- will solve a lot of these problems
- 79:19
- almost organically so end of speech
- 79:21
- about the ones but that's really what
- 79:23
- the ax ones were sent to Washington to
- 79:25
- do it's it's not not to improve global
- 79:27
- economic trade it was to a spy on
- 79:31
- ratlines right and you know you're
- 79:33
- you're talking thereof
- 79:35
- Silke ways Airlines has reminded me that
- 79:39
- the day lianna 65 files the third part
- 79:43
- of this information that's been provided
- 79:45
- by anonymous bulgaria and is currently
- 79:48
- hosted in a very convenient way on the
- 79:51
- site truth leaks org whoops has been
- 79:55
- posted and panama mike has got it up
- 79:57
- there the the link to download it was
- 80:10
- Mike and check exactly where that the
- 80:13
- link here's part one and part two so
- 80:15
- there you go you want to scroll down to
- 80:17
- here and click on these links
- 80:19
- oh no sorry those are the previous
- 80:20
- things so accessing the release of the
- 80:23
- files it's a little bit there it is I
- 80:26
- think here here are the three files so I
- 80:28
- think George is looking for that to be a
- 80:30
- little bit more clear from the launch
- 80:32
- page from the for your first land to
- 80:34
- have it just be like a big red button I
- 80:36
- want a big red easy button it's like if
- 80:38
- I wanted to do twenty percent of us or
- 80:41
- uranium I want a big easy button I don't
- 80:44
- want to have to search for you know
- 80:45
- jewelle energy on the stock exchange I
- 80:48
- just want a big red easy button but as
- 80:50
- it now stands if you if you go to true
- 80:52
- fleet's org you want to click on the
- 80:54
- deal Jana files part three it's talking
- 80:56
- about the sixty-five gigabyte leaked and
- 80:59
- when you scroll down to the bottom
- 81:01
- there's looks like Mike wants you to
- 81:06
- register I guess that's to be uploading
- 81:08
- and everything like that that's the next
- 81:10
- step sorry okay so there yeah I mean
- 81:13
- it's a lot of small type here to figure
- 81:14
- out where those downloads are I think we
- 81:16
- just want an easy button to try just big
- 81:18
- red easy buttons matter of fact I would
- 81:20
- go get the graphic of Hillary with the
- 81:21
- easy but easy is the problem is that
- 81:23
- we've got so many different files now
- 81:25
- and so many things we want done with
- 81:26
- them maybe what we'll do is we'll have
- 81:27
- three buttons one 300 Meg easy what
- 81:31
- we'll do is we'll have a conversation
- 81:32
- with Panama Mike and we'll figure out
- 81:34
- some of the challenges that he's dealing
- 81:35
- with because I know you want an easy
- 81:36
- button for everything but sometimes you
- 81:38
- need an easy button on your chest to
- 81:40
- make it a little bit easier on that on
- 81:42
- that front so I know Charles has got
- 81:44
- some time constraints and might need
- 81:47
- to break from the call pretty soon
- 81:49
- Charles was there anything else that you
- 81:51
- wanted to cover anything else in the
- 81:52
- largest unprosecuted financial criminal
- 81:56
- situation that you've been researching
- 81:58
- and breaking information on for years
- 82:01
- and years that you wanted to share with
- 82:03
- the crowdsource community right now well
- 82:06
- I think no I mean at this stage we're
- 82:09
- sitting here it's it's Friday as a guess
- 82:12
- there will be news coming out after 5:00
- 82:15
- p.m. today and then just guessing others
- 82:18
- of relevance and I think you know the
- 82:22
- screws are certainly being turned up
- 82:24
- here by your work on the Allman Brothers
- 82:26
- and its many tentacles I would venture
- 82:29
- to say that you know we know about the
- 82:31
- AH ones who don't we know about what
- 82:34
- other groups are out there still
- 82:35
- functioning still tapping into
- 82:38
- congressional staffer and Congress
- 82:41
- member electronics and how many other
- 82:45
- groups are after our secrets that's the
- 82:47
- real scandal not Russia gate well and
- 82:51
- I'm not just that Charles of course
- 82:52
- we've only heard in the national
- 82:55
- conversation the name Imran awan we
- 82:57
- haven't heard about the brothers the
- 82:58
- wives the the multiple homes the
- 83:02
- multiple businesses the diplomatic
- 83:04
- status the illicit shipping of materials
- 83:08
- through a variety of different means so
- 83:10
- we're really as I said just looking at a
- 83:12
- little tiny crushed ice chip of a cube
- 83:16
- on the tip of an iceberg that's at the
- 83:19
- top of a mountain of icebergs okay well
- 83:23
- just to comment on that I mean if you
- 83:26
- look at the just as an instructive
- 83:28
- transaction for Sharif of Pakistan he
- 83:32
- bought he said he did a deal with the
- 83:34
- king of Qatar and they he got the four
- 83:39
- luxury condos that were whatever 8
- 83:41
- million apiece for his four kids right
- 83:44
- as a payment for something else right
- 83:49
- but he didn't say what that something
- 83:51
- else was right so he says he's not
- 83:54
- guilty but he doesn't want a name what
- 83:57
- that's something else that he provided
- 83:58
- in kind was and that trends
- 84:01
- so what do they have in Pakistan they
- 84:03
- have people nukes they and they have
- 84:06
- depleted uranium weapons a very large
- 84:09
- weapons factory and that is exactly what
- 84:12
- you're gonna find this transaction was
- 84:14
- it's gonna be a combination of people
- 84:15
- and arms and I don't know if you know we
- 84:19
- have precious metals I don't know if we
- 84:20
- have a precious children's index but you
- 84:24
- know I believe you're gonna see that in
- 84:27
- the oil fields of UAE and Qatar I
- 84:30
- already know this right there
- 84:31
- Pakistan has made this devil's to
- 84:34
- bargain to trade slave labor slave labor
- 84:37
- and occasionally throw a worker off a
- 84:40
- building when an organ is needed and
- 84:42
- that is happening right now in UAE and
- 84:45
- right now in Qatar wow that's crazy
- 84:49
- again from firsthand reporting so I'll
- 84:53
- wait for the news to get there but that
- 84:55
- is that is the not the Sophie's Choice
- 84:59
- that is the devil's bargain that these
- 85:01
- dictators are making all over the world
- 85:04
- Wow well Trish anything you want to say
- 85:07
- in conclusion I think we're gonna wrap
- 85:09
- up here and start moving on to some of
- 85:10
- our other locations in the south I know
- 85:15
- I mean it's been a long broadcast though
- 85:18
- it's actually been four different shows
- 85:20
- we're doing we're wrapping up with
- 85:22
- Hannity now here at the end well we keep
- 85:24
- getting hit and getting knocked off but
- 85:26
- we've we've done a pretty decent job of
- 85:28
- recovering and I got to thank the over
- 85:30
- 1200 viewers on YouTube who are sticking
- 85:33
- with us throughout that of course our
- 85:35
- friends on the VK social media network
- 85:37
- I'm not sure I haven't been able because
- 85:38
- of the problems with bandwidth to check
- 85:40
- periscope or VK or twitch or Facebook
- 85:44
- quite a Charles asked about who don't we
- 85:47
- know about right and I'm gonna just go
- 85:49
- ahead and because you know making
- 85:51
- predictions is what you get to do as an
- 85:53
- investigative reporter I guess
- 85:56
- investigative something but it is going
- 85:58
- to be the crowd strike group it is going
- 86:01
- to be the paper clip to that I've talked
- 86:03
- about it is going to be the dukes team
- 86:05
- that you go back it's really started in
- 86:07
- earnest about ten years ago the first
- 86:10
- one was pinched dukes which was the
- 86:12
- Pinchuk
- 86:13
- use the billionaire the the billionaire
- 86:15
- that sponsored the first group hit that
- 86:18
- the hacking is going to be associated
- 86:20
- with an investment consortium so they're
- 86:23
- gonna say okay we got six or ten Duke's
- 86:25
- for you for you Dukes and you're gonna
- 86:27
- be doing ratline hacking for that group
- 86:30
- same thing is going to be true for UAE
- 86:32
- members it's going to be the Awan
- 86:34
- brothers are gonna be doing UAE and I
- 86:36
- guess you could call them they've tried
- 86:39
- to convince people in Pakistan that
- 86:41
- there's a shadow royalty so so these
- 86:44
- these Paperclip groups of hackers are
- 86:47
- going to be associated with investors
- 86:49
- and that that's going to be your
- 86:51
- consortium and it's going to be ratline
- 86:52
- consortiums the cozy bearer is the cozy
- 86:57
- bear is the Wang brothers the fancy bear
- 87:01
- is going to be the Ukranian group now
- 87:03
- cosy because they're so cozy cozy that's
- 87:06
- exactly right
- 87:07
- it didn't pit the pinched Bears or what
- 87:09
- are the pinched dukes what they called
- 87:10
- them as pin Chuck's hackers I mean it's
- 87:13
- just straight out he's a billionaire
- 87:14
- it's gonna be pitch chucks hackers we've
- 87:16
- already named a company the other the
- 87:18
- other hackers go ahead just just to jump
- 87:21
- in there pin truck is centrally involved
- 87:23
- in the Clinton Foundation frauds yes yes
- 87:26
- central centrally involved yep and
- 87:28
- you're gonna have a pair of itch
- 87:29
- involved you're gonna have Sean Henry
- 87:31
- there's going to be a kind of a a FBI
- 87:35
- dukes
- 87:37
- investment group in this whole thing as
- 87:40
- well mainly through the IPO of IP IP o--
- 87:44
- of CrowdStrike software a company where
- 87:48
- a lot of FBI people went into that and
- 87:50
- we who's the guy a broker off Pokhara
- 87:54
- Prokhorov sells crew also going to have
- 87:56
- his group so we're we're figuring that
- 87:59
- out gradually of who the billionaire
- 88:02
- it's kind of fun in a way you match the
- 88:04
- billionaire with the with the hackers
- 88:07
- and you're going to figure out what
- 88:08
- they're invested in and that's gonna
- 88:10
- follow the money follow the money's
- 88:12
- gonna tell you who those groups are so
- 88:14
- we're just at the first group right now
- 88:15
- which is the Awad brothers right alright
- 88:17
- and with that I think we're gonna sign
- 88:19
- off Charles thank you so much for your
- 88:21
- time today Trish great speaking with you
- 88:23
- as well George we're gonna we're going
- 88:25
- to wrap it up we'll see everybody later
- 88:27
- and thanks very much goodbye from
- 88:29
- Florida for right now thanks Charles
- 88:30
- takes crib fish but bye bye Charles bye
- 88:34
- bye
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