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  1. [Sun Aug 19 12:38:55 2018] (group) [Latos N-10] [AQLA] <Archangel Pyriel> o/ guys
  2. [Sun Aug 19 12:39:03 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> hello
  3. [Sun Aug 19 12:39:21 2018] (group) [Latos N-10] [AQLA] <Archangel Pyriel> well i should say folks lol sorry Knauf
  4. [Sun Aug 19 12:39:41 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Sup
  5. [Sun Aug 19 12:40:07 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> We have terms
  6. [Sun Aug 19 12:40:24 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> So, we are here to discuss an arrangement that would be concluded with the supply of a goli to knauf. What are your suggested terms?
  7. [Sun Aug 19 12:40:49 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> First of all let me explain the deal "Archangel Pyriel" and myself have.  
  8. [Sun Aug 19 12:40:58 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Thats a good starting point. :)
  9. [Sun Aug 19 12:41:10 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> i (as in Knauf) never shoot  anyone i am in a business deal with.  
  10. [Sun Aug 19 12:41:20 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Sounds sensible.
  11. [Sun Aug 19 12:41:33 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> "Archangel Pyriel" offered to sell me a goliath for a reasonable price.  And i agreeed.  
  12. [Sun Aug 19 12:41:47 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Has any payment been made as yet?
  13. [Sun Aug 19 12:41:53 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> In return, i did offered to not shoot him or AQLA.  
  14. [Sun Aug 19 12:42:47 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> SWA and AQLA never had a NAP.  Instead, the lack of shooting was due to good business practices.  :)  
  15. [Sun Aug 19 12:43:01 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Ok.
  16. [Sun Aug 19 12:43:17 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> Even after i took a break of the game the agreement was in place.  
  17. [Sun Aug 19 12:43:27 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> We were led to believe we had, but too much looking back will prohibit a movement forwards.
  18. [Sun Aug 19 12:43:35 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> (i have a lot to type, so bear with me)
  19. [Sun Aug 19 12:43:57 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Ok, in that case, im gonna make a cuppa. I type stupibly fast, and can overwhelm chat sometimes.
  20. [Sun Aug 19 12:44:06 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> State clearly when done :)
  21. [Sun Aug 19 12:44:52 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> For what ever reason, Seryn decided to clearly cause "problems" and pushed back at -Wash- and relations between SWA and AQLA broke down.  
  22. [Sun Aug 19 12:45:16 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> *listens*
  23. [Sun Aug 19 12:45:22 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> But through all of this, my terms with "Archangel Pyriel" remained, and SWA was under hard orders not to shoot him (and had access to our stations)  
  24. [Sun Aug 19 12:45:45 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> I am aware.
  25. [Sun Aug 19 12:46:35 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> From day one of this "conflict" we have used a simple tactic.  Who ever controls the RBH controls the universe.
  26. [Sun Aug 19 12:46:43 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> hehe
  27. [Sun Aug 19 12:46:47 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> true true
  28. [Sun Aug 19 12:46:56 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> I belive our tactic was demostrated overwhelmingly.  
  29. [Sun Aug 19 12:47:49 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> So these are the terms:  
  30. [Sun Aug 19 12:48:20 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> 1)  The deal between "Archangel Pyriel" and myself stands.  It is seperate from all other terms.  
  31. [Sun Aug 19 12:48:33 2018] (group) [Latos N-10] [AQLA] <Archangel Pyriel> agreed on that one
  32. [Sun Aug 19 12:48:43 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> 2) AQLA will build SWA a dent kit.  
  33. [Sun Aug 19 12:49:51 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> 3) Nyscersul will admit error of AQLA underestimating SWA publically on the forums.  (defeat, etc.  We are ok with diplomatic word usage)  
  34. [Sun Aug 19 12:50:24 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Anything else?
  35. [Sun Aug 19 12:50:43 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> 4) SWA does not care about any NAPS AQLA makes with other guild. You can be NAPed with TGFT for all we care.  BUT we do care about certain players
  36. [Sun Aug 19 12:50:59 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Which players?
  37. [Sun Aug 19 12:51:00 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> those being Piment and Sorrow/Fleet consumer
  38. [Sun Aug 19 12:51:07 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Only those?
  39. [Sun Aug 19 12:51:21 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> Only those
  40. [Sun Aug 19 12:51:49 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Well, firstly i will not state anything on the forums. If you wish to make a deal, we make a deal.
  41. [Sun Aug 19 12:52:31 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> You recognise our abilities to build, and to build quickly. Those are the aspects that matter. I will not utter defamation towards any guild at your request.
  42. [Sun Aug 19 12:52:50 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> If you wish to continue you must reconsider that aspect of the terms.
  43. [Sun Aug 19 12:53:10 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> ?
  44. [Sun Aug 19 12:53:10 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Altho, before you do...
  45. [Sun Aug 19 12:53:40 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> I would like part of my own suggestions of the terms to be that your goli deal become the work of all aqla, and therefore, completed much much quicker.
  46. [Sun Aug 19 12:54:13 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> I also would like to know whether there is an intended payment to be made for that deal.
  47. [Sun Aug 19 12:54:34 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> There is a payment, and that was between "Archangel Pyriel" and myself.  
  48. [Sun Aug 19 12:55:08 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> My suggestion be that if you are willing to extend the deal to be the work of aqla, that the goli be supplied to you, free of charge.
  49. [Sun Aug 19 12:55:42 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> I know we can supply an mmc and an engine in around four days, the rest, a matter of weeks at most.
  50. [Sun Aug 19 12:55:59 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> If we manage to get everyone on this, we could complete it in two weeks maximum.
  51. [Sun Aug 19 12:56:15 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> We know that it takes 1 person two weeks to make a trident.  
  52. [Sun Aug 19 12:56:28 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> How does that work?
  53. [Sun Aug 19 12:56:32 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> 13 day sto eb exact
  54. [Sun Aug 19 12:57:03 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> My intention is to arrange to supply you with the parts as they complete, not all at once. This shows good faith to you, and clear intention to complete.
  55. [Sun Aug 19 12:57:31 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> And i am unclear as to how it seems possible to complete an entire dent in two weeks... Thats highly unlikely.
  56. [Sun Aug 19 12:57:43 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> I've done it 3 times
  57. [Sun Aug 19 12:57:50 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> in 13 days each
  58. [Sun Aug 19 12:57:53 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> by myself
  59. [Sun Aug 19 12:58:07 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Ok... Well, either way, put the dent kit to one side a moment, and finish discussing the goli.
  60. [Sun Aug 19 12:58:15 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> No
  61. [Sun Aug 19 12:58:41 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Nothing is gonna be finally agreed until everyone is happy with all terms, i just suggest discussing one topic at a time.
  62. [Sun Aug 19 12:59:13 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> If you wish to wrap the Goli deal into all of AQLA, then it will be part of the dent build.  
  63. [Sun Aug 19 12:59:55 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> What is the intention with the dent build? A paid deal?
  64. [Sun Aug 19 13:00:14 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> The dent build is a "bullshit fee"  
  65. [Sun Aug 19 13:00:38 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> To us
  66. [Sun Aug 19 13:01:14 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Ok, well what i see here is you both pushing demands that are insanely high. Without any payment, you understand you expect us to essentially give you the equivalent of 2 billion credits worth of kit, for free.
  67. [Sun Aug 19 13:01:24 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> Yes
  68. [Sun Aug 19 13:01:39 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> That is not an acceptable arrangement. Let me explain why...
  69. [Sun Aug 19 13:01:43 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> No
  70. [Sun Aug 19 13:01:56 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> By agreeing to this deal, i will then need to motivate the guild to build for you.
  71. [Sun Aug 19 13:02:15 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> If they know that nothing is gonna be coming back to us for this then its not muchbmotivation.
  72. [Sun Aug 19 13:02:28 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> That goli was done, then you forced "Archangel Pyriel" to give it to "Iron Lord" .  That is on you guys.  
  73. [Sun Aug 19 13:02:39 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> I didnt force anything.
  74. [Sun Aug 19 13:03:12 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> I was actually hopeful of its completion for future prosperity for both sides.
  75. [Sun Aug 19 13:03:16 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> Oh it was forced.  We all know that.  If he hadn't given it, you would have questioned his loyalty to AQLA>  
  76. [Sun Aug 19 13:03:52 2018] (group) [Latos N-10] [AQLA] <Archangel Pyriel> i did have a choice
  77. [Sun Aug 19 13:03:57 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> I would not. This is assumption, and if we want to go forwards with a deal, it is best to consider what we can do from here on outz not what has been done.
  78. [Sun Aug 19 13:04:26 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> I am open to arranging a deal, but i will not accept demands that are unreasonable.
  79. [Sun Aug 19 13:04:28 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> Look, i will budge on the issue of public posting to the RP forums.  But you will be building a dent free of charge for SWA.  
  80. [Sun Aug 19 13:04:36 2018] (group) [Latos N-10] [AQLA] <Archangel Pyriel> the final decision was made when IL agreed to help replace your parts
  81. [Sun Aug 19 13:04:57 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> In reality, il is the one who left without repaying what he had agreed.
  82. [Sun Aug 19 13:05:08 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> You wanna take that out on someone take it out on il.
  83. [Sun Aug 19 13:05:31 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> But i will not agree to a deal like this whilst you refuse to make any consideration of arrangements beyond what appears as demands.
  84. [Sun Aug 19 13:05:51 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> You may think you are able to demand whatever you wish, but we must agree before anything happens.
  85. [Sun Aug 19 13:06:33 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> we are giving up a large number of players to be able to shoot, which is what we do
  86. [Sun Aug 19 13:06:55 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> I have already offered to clear up the history by taking the original deal, which you agreed to pay for, and giving it to you free.
  87. [Sun Aug 19 13:07:09 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> One entire goli kit, free of charge.
  88. [Sun Aug 19 13:07:21 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> No.  The goli kit i am paying for.  
  89. [Sun Aug 19 13:07:28 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> But, if you want further building done, you must consider the payment for it.
  90. [Sun Aug 19 13:07:36 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Ok, may i ask the agreed price?
  91. [Sun Aug 19 13:07:41 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> 200 mil  
  92. [Sun Aug 19 13:08:02 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Thats one third market price, approximately the price of one single component, the mmc.
  93. [Sun Aug 19 13:08:24 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> yes
  94. [Sun Aug 19 13:08:28 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> That in itself shows why you wont budge, because the price is so good.
  95. [Sun Aug 19 13:08:32 2018] (group) [Latos N-10] [AQLA] <Archangel Pyriel>  it was the agreed upon price
  96. [Sun Aug 19 13:08:36 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Why not apply that price to a dent kit.
  97. [Sun Aug 19 13:08:46 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Or more specifically, that ratio.
  98. [Sun Aug 19 13:08:54 2018] (group) [Latos N-10] [AQLA] <Archangel Pyriel> i gave the discount to not be shot at and the fact that it would take me a long while to complete
  99. [Sun Aug 19 13:09:00 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Free goli kit, dent kit at 1/3 market value.
  100. [Sun Aug 19 13:09:23 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Total price, approximately 650mill for two cappies worth a total of 2.6bill.
  101. [Sun Aug 19 13:09:47 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> one moment
  102. [Sun Aug 19 13:11:15 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> ok.  Wash and I discussed. We agree with one stipulation.  
  103. [Sun Aug 19 13:11:30 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> ok?
  104. [Sun Aug 19 13:11:58 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> I have another topic to discuss, after this, but i think you will both appreciate it.
  105. [Sun Aug 19 13:12:19 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> The original 200 mil will be paid upfront, as it was part of the original deal.  The final 450 mil will not be paid until the final dent part is in our paws.  
  106. [Sun Aug 19 13:12:42 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> fuckin chicks and your cat references
  107. [Sun Aug 19 13:12:54 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> if you really want to pay upfront, thats ok, but i'd prefer payments on delivery, i.e. when we have parts. Business works better that way.
  108. [Sun Aug 19 13:12:56 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> meow
  109. [Sun Aug 19 13:13:07 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> ok
  110. [Sun Aug 19 13:13:28 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Ok, that can be agreed to, payment of 200mill on receipt of goli, and 450mill on receipt of dent kit.
  111. [Sun Aug 19 13:13:41 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> Ok.
  112. [Sun Aug 19 13:13:47 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> So, that brings us to the arrangements for combat behaviour between aqla and swa.
  113. [Sun Aug 19 13:13:57 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Give me a moment to explain my logic, then comment.
  114. [Sun Aug 19 13:14:34 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Our guilds allies, those of swa, and those of aqla, do not suggest that we should be at peace. You agree?
  115. [Sun Aug 19 13:14:46 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Most of your allies are hostile to us, and vice versa?
  116. [Sun Aug 19 13:14:54 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> correct
  117. [Sun Aug 19 13:15:10 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> So, i dont believe arranging a permanent nap to be either appropriate, or for you guys, desirable.
  118. [Sun Aug 19 13:15:27 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> correct
  119. [Sun Aug 19 13:15:34 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> So, i would instead propose a complete ceasefire until the building is complete, and then after...
  120. [Sun Aug 19 13:15:39 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> NAP and SWA are letters that dont' go together.  
  121. [Sun Aug 19 13:16:33 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> We shall agree simply to be kos in space, and all swa need to do in future, is not disrupt our building. Simply, dont attack us within conq stations, dont blockade the conq stations.
  122. [Sun Aug 19 13:16:57 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> We are fine with that.  
  123. [Sun Aug 19 13:17:03 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Taking the stations of course will be a combat thing... But you can fight us, without griefing us.
  124. [Sun Aug 19 13:17:19 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> And, in this way, i hope we can achieve respect amongst enemies.
  125. [Sun Aug 19 13:17:58 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Woul it help to summarise terms for agreement?
  126. [Sun Aug 19 13:18:03 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> Yes
  127. [Sun Aug 19 13:18:09 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Ok, just a mo.
  128. [Sun Aug 19 13:19:15 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> SWA and AQLA agree to a ceasefire which extends to all members on both sides, to continue until the dent kit is delivered. After this, swa agree to fight us, but no griefing... You kill, and you move on. Thats JUST the hostilities arrangement.
  129. [Sun Aug 19 13:19:20 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> For the builds...
  130. [Sun Aug 19 13:19:47 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> We supply knauf directly with first a goli kit, then knauf pays 200mill, then a dent kit, then knauf pays 450mill.
  131. [Sun Aug 19 13:20:32 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> In the meantime, swa will supply keys to aqla should they take stations, by sending me an owner. This is ONLY for aqla members.
  132. [Sun Aug 19 13:21:02 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> And, we shall supply swa with keys, assuming they do not attack anyone there. If its an swa key, its your laws, you shoot who you like.
  133. [Sun Aug 19 13:21:12 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Acceptable?
  134. [Sun Aug 19 13:22:24 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> Acceptable.  You can take stations on your own owner key.  As a sign of good faith.  
  135. [Sun Aug 19 13:22:48 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> So, you will simply keep out of aqla related conq station combat?
  136. [Sun Aug 19 13:22:54 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Sounds good.
  137. [Sun Aug 19 13:23:24 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> And, as some good faith from our side, we shall deliver some components inside of a week, by next sunday. Specifically, an engine, and an mmc.
  138. [Sun Aug 19 13:23:36 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> We will require users key though.  
  139. [Sun Aug 19 13:24:27 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> if you wish, i stated you would receive them. I will request you dont attack anyone at conqs, or place spotters there for the duration of the ceasefire. But spotting brac d9 for example, would be acceptable.
  140. [Sun Aug 19 13:24:47 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> We are fine with that.  
  141. [Sun Aug 19 13:24:51 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> I think we are good. With regards to a timeframe...
  142. [Sun Aug 19 13:25:40 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> I think it most appropriate to agree a longer timeframe than required. I think a goli should be possible easily in two weeks, and to make sure no breakdown of diplomacy, that maximum timescale will be 1 month.
  143. [Sun Aug 19 13:26:01 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> When the goli is done, we will discuss the dent kit timeframe.
  144. [Sun Aug 19 13:26:16 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Are we done? Is it necesary to record the terms?
  145. [Sun Aug 19 13:26:20 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> ok to be devilas advocate here
  146. [Sun Aug 19 13:26:23 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> ?
  147. [Sun Aug 19 13:26:38 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Id like to hear from you, you didnt comment much
  148. [Sun Aug 19 13:26:59 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> what prevents you from completeing Seryns Dent and telling us to fuck off
  149. [Sun Aug 19 13:27:15 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Absolutely nothing. However, if that were to happen...
  150. [Sun Aug 19 13:27:31 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> We would miss out on the gracious agreement to not grief us after the ceasefire ends.
  151. [Sun Aug 19 13:27:45 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> And, if you ask me, thats worth more than the original 200 mill.
  152. [Sun Aug 19 13:28:06 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> As long as you are aware that should that happen I will be way more pissed than I was about the Goli
  153. [Sun Aug 19 13:28:08 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> And, to dissuade you from expecting that... Thats why i will complete the build myself, by direction or activity.
  154. [Sun Aug 19 13:28:23 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Oh, thats to be expected.
  155. [Sun Aug 19 13:28:31 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> then I am good with the deal
  156. [Sun Aug 19 13:28:55 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> I would expect a campaign the likes of which would make the rbh escapade seem tiny.
  157. [Sun Aug 19 13:29:10 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> indeed it would as I have all the parts in place to escalate
  158. [Sun Aug 19 13:30:05 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> So, i will immediately notify the guild we are in ceasefire, and would request a grace period of 24 hours where if you see an aqla member, you just ignore them, if they attack, kill them one time, then report to me. Ok?
  159. [Sun Aug 19 13:30:19 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> Ok
  160. [Sun Aug 19 13:30:30 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> fair enough, we ahve some peeps on vaction so 1 or two may not get the mesasge right away
  161. [Sun Aug 19 13:30:54 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Understood. I would request that you place a notation of this in your motd.
  162. [Sun Aug 19 13:31:04 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> yes
  163. [Sun Aug 19 13:31:08 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Wash, did you figure out how to update the guild motd to extend it?
  164. [Sun Aug 19 13:31:11 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> thats tghe womans job
  165. [Sun Aug 19 13:31:15 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> hehe
  166. [Sun Aug 19 13:31:37 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> shes iun charge because i hate paper work
  167. [Sun Aug 19 13:32:07 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Ok, well if you'd like to be able to extend or colour your motd, let me know. The limited length is quite prohibitive.
  168. [Sun Aug 19 13:32:21 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> yeah I honestly don't care lol
  169. [Sun Aug 19 13:32:24 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> thats on her
  170. [Sun Aug 19 13:32:33 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> we have have had a colored MOTD for over a year
  171. [Sun Aug 19 13:32:35 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> I know, im speaking to knauf mostly...
  172. [Sun Aug 19 13:32:42 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Ah, cool cool, no worries.
  173. [Sun Aug 19 13:32:52 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> the colors work in the guild bank as well.  
  174. [Sun Aug 19 13:33:08 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> The records for payments and stuff?
  175. [Sun Aug 19 13:33:14 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> yes
  176. [Sun Aug 19 13:33:26 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Interesting...
  177. [Sun Aug 19 13:33:50 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> So, i have had an idea which you may find useful, it doesnt work so much for aqla as we are not directly a combat guild.
  178. [Sun Aug 19 13:34:28 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> ?
  179. [Sun Aug 19 13:34:30 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> It would be possible to make a simple plugin that is able to read the motd for your kos / friends lists, and report it, and reference against a target much like the old famy system, but no external connections hehe
  180. [Sun Aug 19 13:34:45 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Let me know if you like the sound of it, i have no need to code it yet hehe
  181. [Sun Aug 19 13:35:17 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> umm I have updated our VOCE to be 10 times what the FMAY version did
  182. [Sun Aug 19 13:35:27 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Hehe nice, fair play :)
  183. [Sun Aug 19 13:35:36 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Still using external servers?
  184. [Sun Aug 19 13:35:42 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> yes
  185. [Sun Aug 19 13:35:48 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Hehe cool
  186. [Sun Aug 19 13:36:25 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> So, you guys want to mention anything to archie? Im gonna explain the terms to him in guild to save respamming you guys.
  187. [Sun Aug 19 13:36:34 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <-Wash-> nope Im good
  188. [Sun Aug 19 13:36:41 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> actually, spam it in here.  
  189. [Sun Aug 19 13:36:46 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> ok
  190. [Sun Aug 19 13:36:49 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> it is theraputic
  191. [Sun Aug 19 13:36:53 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Hehehe
  192. [Sun Aug 19 13:37:24 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> So, we have agreed to have a ceasefire until the dent kit is complete, during which no aqla v swa combat will be allowed, unless agreed both ways.
  193. [Sun Aug 19 13:37:42 2018] (group) [Latos M-7] [AQLA] <Archangel Pyriel> k
  194. [Sun Aug 19 13:37:43 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> We shall key swa, and swa shall key us
  195. [Sun Aug 19 13:37:52 2018] (group) [Latos M-7] [AQLA] <Archangel Pyriel> k
  196. [Sun Aug 19 13:38:15 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> We shall deliver an engine and an mmc for good faith, and swa say they will simply keep out of aqla related conq station combat, as good faith.
  197. [Sun Aug 19 13:38:33 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Then, once the entire goli kit is complete, knauf pays 200mill.
  198. [Sun Aug 19 13:38:47 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> When the dent kit is complete, she pays a further 450mill.
  199. [Sun Aug 19 13:38:47 2018] (group) [Latos M-7] [AQLA] <Archangel Pyriel> all sounds fair so far
  200. [Sun Aug 19 13:39:04 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> After the dent kit is complete, diplomatic relations will change.
  201. [Sun Aug 19 13:39:45 2018] (group) [Latos M-7] [AQLA] <Archangel Pyriel> no surprise they usually do but at least there is no illusions here strictly business
  202. [Sun Aug 19 13:39:48 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Will basically return to the original arrangement, whereby we shoot each other, but swa have agreed not to grief us at the conq stations, thereby allowing us to build with relative ease in future.
  203. [Sun Aug 19 13:40:07 2018] (group) [Latos M-7] [AQLA] <Archangel Pyriel> all in all good deal
  204. [Sun Aug 19 13:40:30 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Once the dust settles, we will return to an enemy stance, but hopefully with a little respect growing on both sides.
  205. [Sun Aug 19 13:41:05 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Simply put, i did not consider it appropriate for swa and aqla to be allies, or nap, long term, as each of our lists of friends are directly hostile to each other.
  206. [Sun Aug 19 13:41:17 2018] (group) [Latos M-7] [AQLA] <Archangel Pyriel> nor do i
  207. [Sun Aug 19 13:41:22 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> And swa seem to like the option to shoot us in future... hehe
  208. [Sun Aug 19 13:41:30 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Did i miss anything?
  209. [Sun Aug 19 13:41:40 2018] (group) [Latos M-7] [AQLA] <Archangel Pyriel> well yeah if it lives shoot it
  210. [Sun Aug 19 13:41:54 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Hehe whats the point in a combat game with no enemies eh?
  211. [Sun Aug 19 13:41:55 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> Looks to be all there
  212. [Sun Aug 19 13:42:12 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Great, its been a pleasure doing business with you both.
  213. [Sun Aug 19 13:42:25 2018] (group) [Sedina D-14] [SWA] <Knauf> The pleasure has been all mine.  
  214. [Sun Aug 19 13:42:52 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Wonderful, i'd say fly safe... But that aint your style. So... Fly well ;)
  215. [Sun Aug 19 13:43:11 2018] (group) [Odia M-14] [AQLA] <Nyscersul> Im off to do some shiz :)
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