SOUP added Swedgendary to the group.Today at 7:18 PM
SOUP added Cosmog to the group.Today at 7:18 PM
SOUP added Rohan to the group.Today at 7:18 PM
SOUP added ♫egogoyo ♫ to the group.Today at 7:18 PM
[7:18 PM] SOUP: This is because Rogue feels that we're being excluding. Perhaps this is a better way to force us to talk to each other.
[7:19 PM] Swedgendary: Not a bad idea at all.
[7:23 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: I heard pretty well what SOUP said,  but I am very interested in seeing what Rohan  has to say now
[7:24 PM] Rohan: Well, I don't think Rogue should step down. I am not really so concerned.
I don't really know any details about 'those' other guys but as much as i dislike the idea of having anything to do with them, that side of it is on her to deal with as she personally sees fit and shouldn't reflect anywhere else(edited)
[7:24 PM] RogueDonut: Alright so I'd like to see what concerns you guys have or where they're coming from just so we can clear them up. I don't need another JJ incident where something I have said has been taken out of context.
[7:25 PM] RogueDonut: Im at work but I want to get this cleared up so I will respond when I can and I will try to be prompt about it.
[7:25 PM] RogueDonut: What exactly are the issues?
[7:26 PM] SOUP: My issue was that the whole doxxing incident would've been entirely prevented if you'd just listened to us all and hid all your private information from the getgo instead of leaving it out there for those people to get after. Not only was it a danger unto yourself, but it also endangered me as well.
[7:26 PM] SOUP: But we dealt with those guys, but it left a bitter aftertaste.
[7:27 PM] SOUP: What people say on other servers is their business. But I don't want my mods being easy targets, nor do I want people having ME become a bigger target than I already am.
[7:27 PM] SOUP: I was unaware of the personal "mental issues" that you had.
[7:27 PM] RogueDonut: Alright. I've already deleted my social media a few weeks ago and what still remains (Facebook, Instagram) is entirely private. I actually deactivated my Facebook but logging into ninjakiwi reactivated it unfortunately. I can't change that i didn't do it in the past sooner, sorry I didn't listen to you.
[7:28 PM] RogueDonut: What personal mental issues are you referring to. Let's be clear and concise and not vague.
[7:28 PM] SOUP: Ego thinks that you're still talking to those people in friendliness. I'd like to not think it's true, but if it is then that is a big issue.
[7:29 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: no,  this is not  that I "think".   Rogue is reporting it herself....   there is no guessing
[7:29 PM] SOUP: And from the evidence hat ego did give me, it did seem convincing that you still were talking to them. I can't allow this from the perspective of me being the leader of you guys because it brings back more trouble and more fodder for those guys to feed off of.(edited)
[7:30 PM] Rohan: @RogueDonut If you would like me to assist you, i can either
a) help you completely privatise your facebook's future, & past history
b) set up your NK account to login with a password rather than facebook
[7:31 PM] Swedgendary: Are you still being friendly with those guys Allie?
[7:31 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: is JJ still your "bud" ?
[7:31 PM] Swedgendary: Please let's not say anything in a manner that could be interpreted as attacking.
[7:32 PM] SOUP: I don't want to spend my time chasing over these guys because at the end of the day it becomes our business when a mod of ours is being targetted. I don't care who's friends with who. But if it's a danger to the nk team then it's my business. And I have better and bigger things to worry about than the various happenings that happen in the NK server.
[7:32 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: (term rogue used when she asked for "immunity" for JJ)
[7:32 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: "bud" term  is not mine
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[7:32 PM] RogueDonut: Thanks Rohan.
[7:32 PM] SOUP: I want to be clear that I'm the one who suggested that you take a break Rogue. It was because of those things that lead me to believe that perhaps now was not the best time for you to stay on the team.
[7:33 PM] RogueDonut: No, he is simply another discord user who I have broken contact with.
[7:33 PM] SOUP: I didn't want to compell you to take action, but I still feel that while I hate myself for this all, I think it's for the best in the long run. And everything I do is for the long term.(edited)
[7:33 PM] RogueDonut: Our last conversation was last week when he reported some more screenshots and I responded by telling him I'd like to just lay the thing to rest. I said my goodbye and good luck with whatever he is going to do with his life, he wished the same and we are not in contact anymore.
[7:34 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: since all the bad stuff already happened "doxing",   why do you even  have any contact  at all with JJ??   ("broken"  or not")
[7:34 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: what he did to you  was very  very bad
[7:35 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: I say "JJ",  but that goes for anyone of them
[7:35 PM] RogueDonut: I understand you hold long term grudges on people. I don't blame you for doing so, because yes what they did was bad. But do not expect me to adopt your view Ego. And just because I do not take your exact stance does not make me wrong. I broke contact.
[7:35 PM] RogueDonut: Do you have any other concerns
[7:36 PM] Swedgendary: So you have broken contact with all of them then.
[7:36 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: pretty much
[7:36 PM] RogueDonut: Yes, Swedgen.(edited)
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[7:36 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: rogue asked "what's the issue"...   this is the issue
[7:36 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: that SOUP addressed
[7:37 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: the constant  contact,  despite all that has happened
[7:37 PM] RogueDonut: There is no "constant" contact. Ego. Please do not operate off of assumptions that I am friends with these people and chat with them on a regular basis for pleasure.
[7:37 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: means that if rogue remains an official-moderator,    more will come...    this is not over
[7:38 PM] Swedgendary: Ego, read what she wrote. There is no more contact.
[7:38 PM] RogueDonut: Thank you swed.
[7:38 PM] SOUP: I willing to believe that Rogue has cut off contact.
[7:38 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: if you wanted them  out of your life,  wouldn't you just let support,  or authorities handle this?
[7:38 PM] Swedgendary: stop it
[7:38 PM] SOUP: They haven't made any real big fusses that are visible enough to catch my view anyways.
[7:39 PM] RogueDonut: Ego stop running your mouth and look at facts instead of operating off of your internal assumptions: there is no more contact.
[7:39 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: you posted today,  that you had contact
[7:39 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: are you denying it now?
[7:39 PM] RogueDonut: Show me where.
[7:39 PM] Rohan: I want to make it clear that even is there is contact, that doesn't mean someone can't deal with it on a personal level and keep it out of the places it shouldn't be.
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[7:39 PM] SOUP: However, now the problem is that the information is out there. Even if we dealt with those people once, they'll come back again in some more hideous form. It's a consequence that of the aftermath. You can't delete things from the internet so we have to deal with the fallout even if the initial reactions are gone.(edited)
[7:40 PM] RogueDonut: Screenshot me where I said that Ego.
[7:40 PM] RogueDonut: Soup, one thing at a time please
[7:40 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: 4min,  please wait
[7:42 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫:

[7:42 PM] SOUP: *Not saying that I support ego, but if you remained, we'd have to deal with the aftermath as well. I think this is because it was my fault too that I ever let you be a mod in the first place. Do you remember a long time ago that I said that the VERY same people that attacked Allie were spreading rumors about the mods? Specifically, Javi paying to be a mod and Allie giving me sexual favors.
[7:42 PM] Swedgendary: Ego, are you serious?
[7:42 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫:

[7:43 PM] SOUP: It all started from there, and I suppose that it is my fault for not addressing THOSE rumors. But at the same time it is the fault of us all for not taking those things seriously at the time.
[7:43 PM] SOUP: I agree that those pictures need more context.
[7:44 PM] Swedgendary: Aaad was trying to kiss ass to get his NK acount back, Allie told him to get a life, more or less.
[7:44 PM] Rohan: pretty much
[7:44 PM] RogueDonut: Am I not allowed to make observations, ego?
[7:44 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫:

[7:45 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: this requires "contact",  no?
[7:45 PM] RogueDonut: Which I already stated ‍♂️
[7:46 PM] RogueDonut: "Our last conversation was last week when he reported some more screenshots and I responded by telling him I'd like to just lay the thing to rest. I said my goodbye and good luck with whatever he is going to do with his life, he wished the same and we are not in contact anymore."
[7:46 PM] RogueDonut: Scroll up dude and read
[7:47 PM] SOUP: These pictures require more context as I've said. These are the kinds of microcasms that I loathe to deal with. But the gatherings of them end of making things like this.
[7:48 PM] SOUP: And that is the last thing I want to do with my time as the server manager. AKA, "chasing ambulences".(edited)
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[7:48 PM] SOUP: My problems are separate. Rogue has apologized and admitted wrongdoing.(edited)
[7:48 PM] Swedgendary: Okay Allie, I will let you know directly my concern.
[7:49 PM] Swedgendary: NK server is an interesting mix of business and friends. Thje business side of it puts us a s employees.
[7:49 PM] Swedgendary: Would you agree that you are on a self destructive path as of late?
[7:51 PM] SOUP: I would characterize it as. The NK Server is 100% Business. The Shed is 100% friends. I think I've made it very clera tha the only discussion allowed in server affairs is that of which directly relates to running the server and running the moderating.(edited)
[7:52 PM] Swedgendary: Well then you care about your employees a great dela more than most bosses.
[7:53 PM] SOUP: I care a great deal. I think that is a good thing that I care about the middle management. Even if it means that I have to be strict sometimes.(edited)
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[7:54 PM] SOUP: And I apologize if I am rather strict and forthcoming. That's the way I do things because I want to make things clear and authoritative. I realized that I've failed in some part as a leader. But I still like to think that at the end of the day everything I do is for a good and greater than myself reason. If I were in for the glory of it all I would've joined NK a long time ago.(edited)
[7:54 PM] Rohan: I must admit Allie, I have been worrying to myself you are acting too elf destructive lately as wel.
I've mentioned talked to you privately and i know your thoughts on it I guess, on a friend level i am worried for you.
But, I do feel like you can and will seperate that from the 'buiness' side of things if given the chance and i don't believe there's any reason you have to give up something you enjoy for that.
[7:55 PM] Rohan: _
Um, excuse the elves.
[7:55 PM] Swedgendary: I like elves...
[7:55 PM] RogueDonut: My personal life and my Ninjakiwi life remain separate.
[7:55 PM] Rohan: Legolas is pretty awesome
[7:55 PM] SOUP: Let's get back on topic.
[7:55 PM] RogueDonut: Legolas IS awesome but... matter at hand please
[7:55 PM] SOUP: I want to stress that Primatis feels the same way about you Allie. And while ego might have exaggerated a bit, I think that it does warrant some looking into. Especially if everyone is catching onto it. I'm not  a fan of inquiring on people's private lives but if that many people get concerned it becomes somethign that needs to be investigated.(edited)
[7:56 PM] Swedgendary: So you see the self destructiveness, correct?
[7:58 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: do you really beleive that I "exaggerated" ??(edited)
[7:58 PM] RogueDonut: Primatis messaged me last week regarding me smoking marijuana saying that I was being "fucking stupid." That's about all I've heard, and is an opinion.
[7:59 PM] RogueDonut: Me sharing a joint with my father is not reckless or stupid.
[7:59 PM] RogueDonut: It's a personal choice.
[7:59 PM] Rohan: theres nothing wrong with that
[7:59 PM] RogueDonut: And no, I have not been self-destructive lately.
[7:59 PM] RogueDonut: Im dealing with the same things I always am.. relationship issues and server matters regarding multiple servers I mod and admin for.
[7:59 PM] RogueDonut: That's nothing new
[7:59 PM] Swedgendary: Okay, on that then I guess we disagree and that negates the rest of what I would have said.
[8:00 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: what part does SOUP thinks I "exaggerated" ??
[8:01 PM] SOUP: .... I'm right here  . The part where Allie goes to LV to meet up with JJ because she feels sorry for him.
[8:01 PM] SOUP: I'd like to not think that story is true.
[8:01 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: is it that on the video at 14:30 ??
[8:01 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: i would never make up that kind of story
[8:01 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: never ever
[8:02 PM] Rohan: i haven't watched the video
[8:02 PM] SOUP: Exaggeration is of its own untruth
[8:02 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: it seems like everyone knows about it,   this is not an "exaggeration"
[8:02 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: please stop saying that i do that
[8:02 PM] Swedgendary: I have never heard this before...
[8:03 PM] Swedgendary: so not evryone knows this.
[8:03 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: you want to review the video now?
[8:03 PM] Swedgendary: no
[8:03 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: then please don't say i exaggerate
[8:03 PM] Swedgendary: I didnt sday that did I?
[8:03 PM] SOUP: I mean I'm willing to believe the part that she met JJ IRL. But not for the stockholm syndrome reasons. That seems too bizzare.(edited)
[8:03 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: SOUP did
[8:04 PM] Swedgendary: Please be clear who you are talking to, if you and I are engaged in conversation I will think you are still talking to me unless you specify otherwise.
[8:05 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: I am not a professional mental-health,  so I clearly am not the one saying that's "clinically"  what's at hand here...   i simply said "kinda":   you see the difference now?
[8:05 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: @SOUP
[8:05 PM] SOUP: Either way, the problem appears to be with how Allie uses drugs to solve her own insecurities. I can't verify this to be true but it's what Primatis believes.
[8:06 PM] SOUP: ... I don't see how being a mental health professional really says anything about that case.
[8:06 PM] SOUP: Mental health is all about deduction, anyways.
[8:06 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: @SOUP   you seems to take liberties  and "paraphrase"   something I took  a good deal of carefulness to express earlier:   please no paraphrasing me
[8:07 PM] SOUP: Have I? I think I've been very clear. And everyone can see it.
[8:07 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: the Stockkholms-Syndrome is a serious condition,  addressed by professionals...  not me
[8:08 PM] Rohan: On the drugs, I believe that's a more personal preference issue unrelated to any concerns here.
[8:08 PM] SOUP: I tend to believe that communication faults with me lie not based on what they can't understand, but rather that they clearly know what I'm saying, and don't agree.
[8:08 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: if I ever say,  this is "kinda" like it:    "kinda"  is the operative word...
[8:08 PM] Rohan: i'm sorry, i have to go and get my car now.
Iwas damaged recently
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[8:08 PM] Rohan: bye
[8:08 PM] SOUP: Later.
[8:10 PM] SOUP: ... I think you're taking this far too seriously, ego. Or rather, you're reading too far into the lines.(edited)
[8:11 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: i will also mention that today,  SOUP was in a "hurry" to get this over with...    but because of that haste,   we are now still talking about it.     I strongly suggest that we acccept that many of us are in different time-zones,  and when something this serious needs to be addressed  we allow 24hrs or 48hrs for all parties to contribute....   let's not rush this again  now
[8:11 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: I need to go offline,   but it feels like there is more to talk about
[8:11 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: this is a very bad timing
[8:12 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: go ahead and say what you need to say here,  but allow rogue, or me,  or Rohan, or Swedgen  to reply
[8:13 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: let's not try to conclude this at all cost within the hour,  what is the emergency??
[8:13 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: I need to go offline,   i'll try to be back in 45min  if I can
[8:16 PM] SOUP: The point I'm making, despite your nitpicking, is that exaggeration is its own untruth. My problems with Alie are that of the server, not anything of her personal nature, and that she's already apologized to the things that I brought up. And I want to end this because the sooner we do, the better. We want to move onto more important things. If there's no there, there then there's nothing to talk about.
[8:17 PM] SOUP: Frankly, Primatis should be chipping in too.
[8:20 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: The poijnt is you said sevral times that I "exagerated",    but wehen I brought that up you brushed it to the side by saying: "I'd like to not think that story is true."
[8:20 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫:

[8:20 PM] SOUP: Yeah, I think you should put a rest to it.
[8:20 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: so now,  can we stop saying that ego is "exaggareting"?    or no?
[8:21 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: you can "put a rest to it"  by simply not say that I "exaggerate"(edited)
[8:22 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: or do you still believe that I "exaggerate"?
[8:22 PM] Swedgendary: Can that portion of the discussion be moved elswhere please? This is best kept about how to help our friend.
[8:23 PM] SOUP: Fair enough ego.
[8:23 PM] SOUP: Recanted.
[8:23 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: we could,  but alot of what was brought up here,  is now hinging on this:  is ego presenting actual facts,  or is he exaggerating(edited)
[8:23 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: ok,  if recanted,  no need to discuss further
[8:24 PM] SOUP: Now I want to make this very clear. I'm still steadfast on the idea of Rogue not being on the staff for the time being. I hate myself for doing this. But I think for the longer term it's better for the nk mods, and the server in general. I want to make it clear that NONE of my greviances have to do with personality conflicts or anything small and stupid.(edited)
[8:24 PM] SOUP: Tough decisions hurt at first, but eventually we'll all come around to it.(edited)
[8:25 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: I think we can include rogue is this decision making,  she seems willing to discuss this with us
[8:27 PM] SOUP: It's already done. And she already made that decision. I never forced her to do anything.(edited)
[8:27 PM] Cosmog: What are you guys going on about
[8:27 PM] SOUP: Rogue wanted this.
[8:28 PM] Cosmog: Like the past 20 or 30 messages are just you guys arguing about ego exaggerating or something
[8:28 PM] Cosmog: Who cares
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[8:28 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: if the issue was that rogue was rather upset she wasn't directly confronted right away. She's calling our group  here today worse than the JJ guys one.  Then this is the time and place to make it right,  no?(edited)
[8:28 PM] Cosmog: You guys talk about how Rogue has been on a self destructive streak lately
[8:28 PM] Cosmog: And that's stupid
[8:28 PM] Cosmog: It has not been lately
[8:28 PM] Cosmog: Unless lately is over a year
[8:28 PM] Cosmog: Because she's right, she has been dealing with everything the same way
[8:28 PM] Cosmog: This is not a new thing
[8:29 PM] Swedgendary: I am 46, lately means something different to me I guess.
[8:29 PM] Cosmog: And Rogue needs to understand that regardless of how much she cares about how herself, the actions she takes affects others
[8:29 PM] Cosmog: In other words
[8:29 PM] Cosmog: When you do stupid shit the people around you get upset because they fucking care
[8:30 PM] Cosmog: No I'm annoyed, because you talk about how this or that isn't stupid or reckless, how it's just my opinion, how what you do is a personal act
[8:30 PM] Cosmog: As if other people who care about you don't deserve to criticize what you do
[8:30 PM] Cosmog: Because what we think doesn't matter? Because you don't care about yourself so you can do whatever you want to do?
[8:31 PM] Cosmog: You can act like it's not the case but you've completely given up on yourself and on your life and it's genuinely a harmful thing for the people around you who put effort into being your friend
[8:31 PM] Cosmog: I've had bad anxiety for years, the majority of the people I was friends with for 2 or 3 years of my life also suffer from mental illnesses
[8:32 PM] Cosmog: Including my friend in real life who was raped as a child
[8:32 PM] Cosmog: And my friends who went through trauma brought onto them their entire lives by shitty parents
[8:32 PM] Cosmog: And at some point they all act like fucking children
[8:33 PM] Cosmog: Trying to throw their lives away and getting defensive and upset whenever somebody is upset they refuse to care about themselves or what others think
[8:33 PM] Cosmog: And I knew a lot of different people in the height of their mental disorders around the time they were 15, 16, when shit gets fuckin real
[8:33 PM] Cosmog: I know self destructive, bullshit behavior when I see it
[8:33 PM] Cosmog: And I know first hand the affects trauma and mental illness has on people
[8:34 PM] Cosmog: Because I go through it too
[8:34 PM] Cosmog: And my best friends have all been through trauma
[8:34 PM] Cosmog: But the none of them have been acting this way for as long as you have
[8:34 PM] Cosmog: And I'm starting to get very, very upset
[8:34 PM] Cosmog: Because now you're dragging other people into the same stupid, self destructive behavior
[8:34 PM] Cosmog: Acting like you give a shit about things you don't give a shit about
[8:35 PM] Cosmog: Refusing to even try to move on and get better
[8:35 PM] Cosmog: I understand it's rough, all of us understand it's rough, but you refuse to actually face this shit that clearly has an impact on you because it would have an impact on anybody
[8:36 PM] Cosmog: And it's total bullshit if you pretend like you and I are not good enough friends for me to make these kinds of judgements(edited)
[8:36 PM] Cosmog: Because I was the one who actively tried to give you genuine advice on how to move forward and why it was important
[8:36 PM] Cosmog: Always
[8:36 PM] Cosmog: But it's like you don't care
[8:37 PM] Cosmog: And you don't understand that not caring about yourself is the same thing as not caring about your friends
[8:37 PM] Cosmog: So enough of this bullshit, where you act like everything is fine and you don't deserve this treatment where we point out flaws in the way you act
[8:37 PM] Cosmog: Get a fucking grip
[8:38 PM] Cosmog: Consider that other people care about you and that it hurts them when you don't put any effort into yourself
Cosmog left the group.Today at 8:38 PM
[8:38 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: @Cosmog#7037 you seem to make a good point,   but can you condense please  before this turns into a wall of text
[8:38 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: ah
[8:38 PM] ♫egogoyo ♫: oh well
[8:41 PM] RogueDonut: Okay one thing at a time
[8:41 PM] RogueDonut: I never said I would meet up with JJ in Las Vegas because I felt sorry for him. Again, stop making assumptions.
[8:44 PM] RogueDonut: Let's be clear about this. When I was headed to Michigan I asked JJ if he was in Detroit and offered to meet for a cup of coffee. As I do with almost any discord folk that I consider friends. Mind you this was long before any of this shit broke out into a public doxxing. He declined, stating he was not in Detroit but rather somewhere else and I said ok. That was the end of that.
[8:45 PM] RogueDonut: I never met up with him and I am horrified you are believing that video Ego.
[8:45 PM] RogueDonut: Next topic
[8:45 PM] SOUP: Un-recanted my previous statement. So it was a lie.(edited)
[8:45 PM] RogueDonut: I do not use drugs to solve my own insecurities
[8:46 PM] RogueDonut: I have smoked marijuana once in my life that being this last weekend with my dad. We were bonding. You cannot say it is wrong for me to share a joint with my own father.
[8:46 PM] RogueDonut: If it's drinking you are worried about, I have a glass or two of wine about once a month with bubs.(edited)
[8:46 PM] RogueDonut: So don't assume I have drug issues.
[8:46 PM] RogueDonut: Next topic, moving on:
[8:49 PM] RogueDonut: Ego at 2048 you stated I called thisgroup worse than JJs. I did not such thing, and that is an exaggeration. I said it felt eerily similar because things were being discussed behind my back
[8:49 PM] RogueDonut: Next topic moving on:
[8:49 PM] RogueDonut: (Trying to catch up)
[8:49 PM] RogueDonut: Oh it's Primatis left.
[8:50 PM] RogueDonut: Well, I guess I'll DM him about what he said.
[8:50 PM] RogueDonut: Im caught up now.
[8:51 PM] RogueDonut: Questions comments disputes or concerns?
[8:51 PM] RogueDonut: If I missed something point it out.
[8:52 PM] SOUP: Maybe you don't agree but I still think that demoting you was the best decision for the long haul. Perhaps you don't agree. But I'm of the steadfastness that it's for the best.
[8:52 PM] RogueDonut: Yeah I get that soup.
[8:52 PM] RogueDonut: I've been demoted from my favorite community
[8:52 PM] SOUP: I just want to be clera that it's nothing that you did wrong.
[8:52 PM] RogueDonut: It's fine
[8:52 PM] SOUP: You can come back later.
[8:53 PM] RogueDonut: You have your concerns and I bring issues to the table so I'll stay out of it(edited)
[8:53 PM] RogueDonut: No I will not be returning as a moderator.
[8:53 PM] Swedgendary: I think having less to be responsible for will be good for you.
[8:53 PM] SOUP: Alright. Another chroncile for my many failings as a leader.(edited)
[8:53 PM] RogueDonut: Swedgen, all due respect, ninjakiwi is one of the few good things that I have going for me. So I politely refute that.
[8:54 PM] RogueDonut: But you're free to your own opinion.
[8:54 PM] RogueDonut: And I thank you for trying to be kind
[8:54 PM] Rohan: I do still think that Allie is perfectly capable from seperating buisness/personal and should be fine to continue with things she loves.
[8:54 PM] SOUP: If you ever change your mind in the future I'll let you back in.
[8:55 PM] RogueDonut: I do not wish to be a part of it Soup. Thanks though.(edited)
[8:57 PM] Swedgendary: I guess what I am getting at is less time with other responsibilities is more time for you to be helping you in real life.
[9:13 PM] RogueDonut: I'll keep this out of shed, actually. Primatis has blocked me. Which is unfortunate.. because I can't DM him about what he said
[9:13 PM] RogueDonut: So issues that stay between him and I are uh.. not exactly to be blamed on me I guess. Because I don't have a way to contact him anymore
[9:23 PM] Swedgendary: You said in SHed you were smoking all weekend without a fren. That gives us the impression of more than smoking once with your father.
[9:23 PM] SOUP: I think that was more of a playful expression, rather than actually doing it since they're both logistically separated anyways.
[9:24 PM] RogueDonut: ^
[9:24 PM] Swedgendary: Agreed, however at the time it looked like truth.
[9:24 PM] Swedgendary: What I am getting at is asking you to see it fromn what we see Rogue.
[9:25 PM] RogueDonut: Is not the shed inherently shitposting
[9:25 PM] RogueDonut: My dm's lack shitposting.
[9:26 PM] RogueDonut: The shed.. Well I shitpost a lot. Pretty much 98% of what I say there is shitposting.
[9:26 PM] Swedgendary: For sure, but not all Shed posts are shit. And  not always easy to tell which are which.
[9:26 PM] Swedgendary: If you had dms you could ask Prim about that too.
[9:26 PM] RogueDonut: Then Just ask me if you're unsure
[9:26 PM] Swedgendary: I wasn't unsure though.
[9:26 PM] Swedgendary: I was wrong.
[9:27 PM] RogueDonut: Im sorry my shitpost came off as fact.
[9:27 PM] Swedgendary: Me too. Internet is a funny thing liek that.
[9:27 PM] Swedgendary: Can easily distort the view.
[9:29 PM] Swedgendary: Ask yourself, how could he have believed that? If you consider me dumb then it's an easy answer, if not then how?