[16:16] <IntensiK> Didn't mean a forum PM, but that works well too
[16:16] <IntensiK> Now what are you talking about?
[16:17] <IntensiK> The "9/10 times me cutting you off from doing work" part
[16:17] <Marnixxie> While in the past days
[16:17] <Marnixxie> I was dealing with someone at WoM for example
[16:17] <Marnixxie> And was telling the usual stuff
[16:18] <Marnixxie> And than you interrupted me like every guest would do
[16:18] <Marnixxie> It is like, am I telling shit to him?
[16:18] <IntensiK> Uh, no.
[16:18] <Marnixxie> I see no reason why you would saythe same as I do
[16:18] <IntensiK> I do that to everyone
[16:18] <IntensiK> I add in things that the person on WOM should hear
[16:19] <Marnixxie> Yeah or the do not hear because of that too many people are telling the guest
[16:19] <IntensiK> Doesn't seem to bother anyone else, since we're doing it together
[16:19] <Marnixxie> Yeah, but you make me feel like I can not do it alone
[16:19] <IntensiK> 90% of 'em get the message, it's the little ones who have the issue
[16:20] <IntensiK> Is that really an issue, Marnixxie?
[16:20] <Marnixxie> Why else would I like to talk about it?
[16:20] <IntensiK> I feel as though as no one has aproblem with it, and no one does
[16:20] <Marnixxie> Yeah
[16:20] <Marnixxie> But for example
[16:20] <Marnixxie> I am always the only one at some stuff
[16:21] <Marnixxie> Ogarci was asking everyone aboutregaining Sephhh's his Trusted rank
[16:21] <Marnixxie> And I was again the only one who was saying no
[16:21] <Marnixxie> I do like to work together
[16:21] <Marnixxie> But not if it makes me feel like I can not do it alone
[16:22] <Marnixxie> Or even do it
[16:22] <IntensiK> Er ok, but what's this have to do with the discussion we're having
[16:22] <Marnixxie> Well
[16:22] <IntensiK> Didn't I tell you a couple weeks ago that letting little things irritate you like this is bad?
[16:22] <IntensiK> like exceptionally bad
[16:23] <Marnixxie> Yeah, but why I can not do it alone from time to time?
[16:23] <Marnixxie> I do like to have you standing by
[16:23] <IntensiK> Because we have a ton of Operators on Zombie
[16:23] <Marnixxie> But not since every guest is a wannabetrustedwhore
[16:23] <IntensiK> Because this community works as a TEAM
[16:23] <IntensiK> No no, that's lava
[16:24] <IntensiK> We're talking about zombie here
[16:24] <Marnixxie> So you are telling me I am a loner in the team?
[16:24] <IntensiK> No of course not, but you seem towant to do everything on your own
[16:24] <IntensiK> When that cannot happen
[16:24] <IntensiK> Because when people go off to do things alone, shit happens
[16:24] <Marnixxie> Yeah, but I can never takeresponsibilty
[16:24] <IntensiK> Er, yes you can; when you bansomeone
[16:25] <Marnixxie> Oh yes, I am forced to ban to take responsibilty?
[16:25] <IntensiK> you're need to be there to talk and have the final say in an appeal
[16:25] <Marnixxie> Yeah, IF they appealed
[16:25] <Marnixxie> But they do not
[16:25] <Marnixxie> But that leaves me careless
[16:25] <IntensiK> Marnixxie, stop twisting my goddamn words
[16:25] <IntensiK> You very well know that in zombie we can have up to 5+ ops together at any point in time
[16:26] <Marnixxie> It seems.
[16:26] <IntensiK> Which is why we have a lot of Opstrying to help a guest, but that issue has more or lessgone DOWN in the past two weeks, which is why no one brings it up
[16:26] <Marnixxie> Well, now I am wondering
[16:26] <IntensiK> and its those who DONT bring it upthat can deal with issues perfectly fine and can handle themeselves when they're in a bigger situation
[16:27] <Marnixxie> How necessary am I thank since we have that many Operators..
[16:27] <Marnixxie> Seriously
[16:27] <Marnixxie> I want to help and take the responsibilty for stuff
[16:27] <IntensiK> Every single person is important, it wouldn't be a team without every single one of you
[16:27] <Marnixxie> Yeah, but some people in the team are a waste of spot in the team
[16:27] <IntensiK> but when I have people coming to meto whine about little problems it makes our job a lot harder
[16:28] <IntensiK> Uh, we don't have a limit
[16:28] <Marnixxie> I know
[16:28] <Marnixxie> But it seems it leaves us careless about useless staff members
[16:28] <Marnixxie> Seriously
[16:28] <Marnixxie> Emues7 is a joke
[16:29] <IntensiK> ...
[16:29] <IntensiK> 1. Don't use "us" because you're the only one who feels that way.
[16:29] <Marnixxie> Oh yes
[16:29] <IntensiK> 2. New operators always have problems, some more than others.
[16:29] <Marnixxie> So you approve immature staff?
[16:29] <IntensiK> 3. NO one, is useless.
[16:29] <Marnixxie> Oh yes, we need him for the giggles?
[16:30] <IntensiK> And you think you're being mature bycoming to me to tell me that someone on our staff is acomplete joke?
[16:30] <Marnixxie> If you call that maturity...
[16:30] <Marnixxie> How else do you want to call him?
[16:30] <IntensiK> He was promoted because he's been atrusted for a long damn time and he already knows thebasic rules of the server, WE removed his training wheelshoping that other operators and vets will help him makethe transition
[16:31] <IntensiK> Instead of backstabbing yourgoddamn teammate, why not give him some simple adviceand walk away
[16:31] <IntensiK> instead of putting the little guythrough shit he wouldn't want to go through
[16:31] <IntensiK> 'cause we've ALL been in his shoes,and you KNOW how he would feel if someone came up to him telling him that he is awful at what he does
[16:31] <Marnixxie> Oh maybe he was a long time Trusted because he is not worthy for an Operator position?
[16:31] <Marnixxie> Well
[16:31] <Marnixxie> For me it was fucking hard to becomeTrusted
[16:31] <IntensiK> Clearly not, people stay trusted because they need more time to develop on the server
[16:32] <Marnixxie> And now people get that fucking rank because of favoritism
[16:32] <IntensiK> Are you jealous Marnixxie? Is thiswhat this is about?
[16:32] <IntensiK> Do you want me to show you all of the damn statistics I have in front of me
[16:32] <Marnixxie> About what would I be jealous?
[16:32] <Marnixxie> Oh yes please show me
[16:32] <IntensiK> 90% of our goddamn trusteds DO NOT COME ONLINE.
[16:32] <IntensiK> HE, yes EMUES, was the ONLY trusted
[16:33] <IntensiK> The only single one who stayed active in the past 2-3 weeks
[16:33] <IntensiK> Which is why HE was the ONLY canidate to be promoted
[16:33] <IntensiK> Which is why HE got promoted
[16:33] <Marnixxie> So "we" promoted an immatureTrusted only because of his activity
[16:33] <IntensiK> instead of accusing people for shit why not just figure out why the hell he was promoted
[16:33] <Marnixxie> If it was only about activity
[16:34] <IntensiK> From what I've gathered he is not immature.
[16:34] <Marnixxie> I am wondering why we have that less Ops and Trusted?
[16:34] <IntensiK> And "We" meaning the HC's.
[16:34] <Marnixxie> Oh you call this mature?
[16:34] <Marnixxie> 5
[16:34] <Marnixxie> 4
[16:34] <Marnixxie> 3
[16:34] <Marnixxie> 2
[16:34] <Marnixxie> 1
[16:34] <Marnixxie> Round end
[16:34] <Marnixxie> Emues7: FART
[16:34] <Marnixxie> Wtf man
[16:34] <Marnixxie> Is that our role model?
[16:34] <IntensiK> Dude, he's a kid.
[16:34] <Marnixxie> That is weak
[16:34] <IntensiK> We've all done stupid shit in the past,but who are you to judge the guy?
[16:34] <Marnixxie> Only because he is a kid
[16:35] <Marnixxie> Because I am in the team?
[16:35] <Marnixxie> If everyone keeps his goddamnmouth shut
[16:35] <IntensiK> Excuse me Marnixxie, I'm the HC here; quit acting like you make the damn calls
[16:35] <IntensiK> Yes, that's why you're there to giveadvice and tips with the other Operators and Vets
[16:35] <IntensiK> Instead of whining about it
[16:35] <Marnixxie> I would not whine about it
[16:35] <Marnixxie> If he was READY for it
[16:36] <Marnixxie> But he is definitely not yet
[16:36] <IntensiK> But you aren't the one who JUDGESwhether or not he is ready for it
[16:36] <IntensiK> That's MY fucking job
[16:36] <IntensiK> Not YOURS.
[16:36] <Marnixxie> But I have my right to say something about it
[16:36] <IntensiK> Yes, which you didn't do; you came towhine about someone who you feel is completely immature
[16:37] <IntensiK> If you came to me saying "Hey, couldyou look into Emues7's logs/Could you keep an eye on Emues?"
[16:37] <IntensiK> This would of turned out differently
[16:37] <Marnixxie> Oh yes
[16:37] <Marnixxie> Now we have this
[16:37] <Marnixxie> I already told you
[16:37] <Marnixxie> But instead of doing that
[16:37] <Marnixxie> You promoted him
[16:37] <Marnixxie> So you completely ignored me?
[16:38] <Marnixxie> What is the sense of that...
[16:38] <IntensiK> 1. I never got ANYTHING fromANYONE.
[16:38] <Marnixxie> I fucking told in the opchat about his immatury
[16:38] <Marnixxie> But no one is listening to me
[16:38] <IntensiK> Because the Operators can't do shit about it
[16:38] <IntensiK> You don't yell at them
[16:38] <IntensiK> You come to Megatron/IntensiK/Damer
[16:38] <IntensiK> Dude, the fuck have you been doing anyway?
[16:39] <IntensiK> Stop having grudges against people
[16:39] <IntensiK> I'll go ahead and look into this Emues "problem"
[16:39] <Marnixxie> But I told at least Megatron about it
[16:40] <IntensiK> Yes, good
[16:40] <Marnixxie> I have not even yelled at any Operator about it
[16:40] <IntensiK> But why are you so seemingly vigilantin trying to get him demoted?
[16:40] <Marnixxie> Sorry man
[16:40] <Marnixxie> My apologize, I am just in such a bad fucking mood
[16:40] <Marnixxie> And you know
[16:40] <Marnixxie> I have really done my best in the past to become here and have this
[16:41] <Marnixxie> And now I only see people gettingpromoted in an easy way
[16:41] <IntensiK> Dude
[16:41] <Marnixxie> It feels so unfair man
[16:41] <IntensiK> For christ sakes
[16:41] <IntensiK> NO ONE IS PROMOTED EASILY
[16:41] <IntensiK> EVERYONE GOES THROUGH A MONTH
[16:41] <IntensiK> A MONTH
[16:41] <IntensiK> 30 DAYS ON THE SERVER
[16:41] <Marnixxie> It is about how you act those 30 days
[16:41] <IntensiK> It is NOT (NOTT) easy to earn the trusted rank
[16:41] <Marnixxie> Not  about spending them
[16:41] <IntensiK> and hell, not even the OP rank
[16:42] <IntensiK> It takes people MONTHS to get there, unless they are the fucking GOD of helping
[16:42] <Marnixxie> Yeah but it looks like semihelping is alright as wel
[16:42] <Marnixxie> well*
[16:42] <IntensiK> Dude, the rank is to help the community, not to flash it around
[16:42] <IntensiK> You should be goddamn proud to see other people coming up to your level
[16:42] <IntensiK> and helping others
[16:43] <Marnixxie> For most of them
[16:43] <Marnixxie> I am
[16:43] <IntensiK> not getting all pissy for you feeling as though as they are earning it easier
[16:43] <Marnixxie> Dude
[16:43] <Marnixxie> If someone deserves it
[16:43] <Marnixxie> (s)he deserves it
[16:43] <IntensiK> Yes, but that's why the HCs are there to make the call
[16:43] <Marnixxie> But if I feel wrong about it
[16:43] <IntensiK> Not the Operators
[16:43] <Marnixxie> I would say it
[16:43] <Marnixxie> Like earlier I did to Megatron
[16:43] <Marnixxie> And now to you Intensik
[16:44] <IntensiK> You took months to get the position
[16:44] <IntensiK> Emues took months to get the position
[16:44] <IntensiK> Where is the problem
[16:44] <IntensiK> Yeah, WE'RE the ones who judge that..
[16:44] <IntensiK> Not YOU.
[16:45] <IntensiK> The ONLY complaints I've been getting is from YOU.
[16:45] <IntensiK> NOT EMUES.
[16:45] <IntensiK> The little kid is learning, albiet slowly, but he is learning
[16:45] <Marnixxie> Because I am the only one who pulls his mouth open
[16:45] <IntensiK> EVERYONE, goes through what HE is going
[16:45] <IntensiK> No no no
[16:45] <Marnixxie> Yes yes
[16:45] <IntensiK> I've gotten PMs from EVERYONE.
[16:45] <IntensiK> About EVERYTHING.
[16:45] <IntensiK> Dude you are NOT my inbox
[16:45] <IntensiK> Guinessis talks to me constantly
[16:45] <IntensiK> Dielore talks to me constantly
[16:45] <Marnixxie> Did I say I am your inbox?
[16:46] <IntensiK> I get 10+ messages a DAY about the server
[16:46] <Marnixxie> So?
[16:46] <Marnixxie> You choosed for it
[16:46] <IntensiK> Yes, but you're here trying to fucking tell me that the operators are just all quiet business
[16:46] <Marnixxie> Do not compare me with you
[16:46] <IntensiK> When you don't have a clue aboutwhat I deal with on a daily basis
[16:46] <IntensiK> Who said I was comparing myself to you?
[16:46] * Marnixxie (~Marnixxie@195-241-92-183.ip.telfort .nl) Quit ( Read error: Connection reset by peer )
[16:47] <Marnixxie> Internet failure, sorry
[16:47] <Marnixxie> Where were we?
[16:48] <Marnixxie> IntensiK?
[16:48] <IntensiK> What?
[16:48] <Marnixxie> Where were we?
[16:49] <IntensiK> Dude, at this point if I were you I'djust walk away, 'cause clearly you can't get complete common sense and morality through your head
[16:49] <Marnixxie> Like walk away in which kind?
[16:50] <IntensiK> As in, this conversation is over.
[16:50] <Marnixxie> That would be weak to be honest
[16:51] <Marnixxie> But if you are all saying me this
[16:51] <Marnixxie> Why the fuck do you grant me this position than?
[16:51] <Marnixxie> I do not see your point
[16:51] <Marnixxie> I can not even open my mouth and you compare it with that I am not using common sense