Slip Of The Tongue (12/06)

[22:57:40] Asphodel says, "--oh."
[22:57:42] Asphodel says, "Okay, Dura."
[22:57:43] Asphodel says, "Okay."
[22:57:45] Persimmon Castilund says, "...Mm."
[22:57:48] Asphodel says, "Here's the funny bit."
[22:57:54] Asphodel says, "The funny thing."
[22:57:56] Dura Levante says, "We can also go over Deliverance opinions too."
[22:57:57] Persimmon Castilund says, "I'll let Asphodel go first. "
[22:57:59] Dura Levante says, "That's not off the table."
[22:58:18] Asphodel says, "You are drastically too personally aggrieved by Alicante."
[22:58:46] Asphodel says, "It's influencing your decision making, and leading you to lose out on potential influence and power by trying to wring blood from a stone."
[22:58:52] Asphodel says, "That said."
[22:58:55]
Dura's brow furrows. Her arms fold.
(Dura Levante)
[22:58:55] Chat command attempt: /emote Dura's brow furrows. Her arms fold.
[22:58:56] Asphodel says, "I signed a contract."
[22:59:03] Asphodel says, "I see two courses of action."
[22:59:36] Asphodel says, "One, detente. It'd be easy enough to silver-tongue bullshit it so you don't look...wishy-washy, or anything. "
[23:00:02] Asphodel says, "Have Alicante--pay reparations in installments, put a monitor on their island, so on, so forth. Slow, steady crawl towards integration."
[23:00:21] Asphodel says, "This is the option I favor--regardless of anything, any rogue elements in north Sarea are a security threat."
[23:00:31] Asphodel says, "But this one doesn't need to be more of a threat."
[23:00:40] Asphodel says, "Two, invasion."
[23:00:46] Asphodel says, "With guns. And swords."
[23:01:18] Asphodel says, "It'd be a fucking pain in the ass, because we'd need boats to do it--though, at least, we know the actual location of the island."
[23:01:26] Asphodel says, "But, it is entirely doable."
[23:01:55] Asphodel says, "There is absolutely no chance in hell of us losing, but it's possible we'd stall out."
[23:02:42] Persimmon Castilund says, "...I'm not sure I like that second one. "
[23:02:42] Asphodel says, "I do not favor this, because I think we can 'obtain' the Apheiron of Wind through slow subversion, at no risk to us, versus potential loss of blood and treasure in the course of forceful action."
[23:03:23] Johan Pavlova says, "Speaking of fighting them.."
[23:03:31]
Her arms remain folded. The brow remains knit. Her eyes close. "Right. Pers. Johan. Your thoughts. One at a time, please."
(Dura Levante)
[23:03:31] Chat command attempt: /emote Her arms remain folded. The brow remains knit. Her eyes close. "Right. Pers. Johan. Your thoughts. One at a time, please."
[23:03:40] Dura Levante says, "(brb rq going to grab nutrients"
[23:03:44] Johan Pavlova says, "Some of the forces we have are Nephilim themselves, I hear they suffer a loss in power the more they fight one another."
[23:03:51]
Persimmon motions to Johan-- he's speaking first.
(Persimmon Castilund)
[23:03:56] OOC - Abstract: Is...the Nephelim base meant to be in the styx?
[23:04:26] OOC - starlit romance: no i just thought that making the water teal would be cool
[23:04:34] Johan Pavlova says, "So we would potentially be weakening ourselves by clashing with Alicante, I don't doubt we'd win but I do think it would leave us vulnerable to Deliverance."
[23:04:49] Asphodel says, "--also a non-issue."
[23:04:57] OOC - AzazelCaesar: epic
[23:05:06] OOC - Abstract: Where is it actually meant to be then?
[23:05:22] OOC - [Senior] FlygonGoggles: random island
[23:05:24] OOC - Foxeye: waters off sarea
[23:05:29] Johan Pavlova says, "Slow integration is the side that I agree with, bringing them over to our side, reinforcing ourselves and claiming the Apheiron for ourselves would likely make us stronger as a whole."
[23:05:35] OOC - Foxeye: til sarea is actually the sarean archipelago
[23:05:40] OOC - Xystian: drinks the teal water
[23:05:44] OOC - Xystian: sluuurp
[23:05:52] Johan Pavlova says, "We would have a monopoly on new Nephilim arising on Sarea."
[23:07:34] Persimmon Castilund says, "...My issue is that-- I don't think, at current, the Nephilim are doing anything wrong. There aren't any current cultic actions. Even acting towards the stopping of the activation of the Apherion-- I don't think it's necessary. I think that acting on that is self-righteous and self-serving and stupi"
[23:07:53] Persimmon Castilund says, "d"
[23:09:22] Persimmon Castilund says, "I think that the Seraphim, at large, are self-righteous and act in personal interests that we have been made to believe are our personal interests, as well. "
[23:09:34]
Her eyes stay closed. There is a slow drumming of crystal fingertips against her opposing bicep.

"Anything else? From anyone?"
(Dura Levante)
[23:09:47] Persimmon Castilund says, "There is no reason for continued violence towards Alicante, at this point."
[23:10:12] Johan Pavlova says, "I have nothing else for this, personally I don't care whether we fight them or not, I will fight them if it's the will of the Duchy."
[23:10:50] Asphodel says, "..."
[23:11:14] Asphodel says, "The time for beating them back into line is over. All that will accomplish now is making them more and more twisted and withdrawn."
[23:11:16] Asphodel says, "...mother?"
[23:11:23] Asphodel says, "Mother could not be reasoned with."
[23:11:29] Asphodel says, "But she's gone."
[23:11:34] Persimmon Castilund says, "I agree. "
[23:12:35] Dura Levante says, "Right. Okay. I have heard your thoughts. Now I'll speak mine."
[23:12:57] Dura Levante says, "I do not feel we can trust Alicante. I am wary of any 'reasoning' with them for a few key reasons."
[23:13:12] Dura Levante says, "Asphodel. I know you say 'power is power', but there is something I'd like to make clear about the Nephilim at large."
[23:13:27] Dura Levante says, "Though I haven't been able to confirm with any other Nephilim, because finding one with a word that I can trust is hard."
[23:13:43] Dura Levante says, "I am willing to wager we all feel Nevanerro's desires to some extent. His wishes, what He wants for us."
[23:13:48] Asphodel says, "--that they're driven towards 'sin' by the latent--yes."
[23:13:51] Asphodel says, "Of course you do."
[23:13:57] Dura Levante says, "Not just 'sin', so much."
[23:14:04] Dura Levante says, "It's - part of it. But broader."
[23:14:37] Dura Levante says, "I'm not sure how much of my experiences with it relates to theirs given..."
[23:14:39] Dura Levante says, "Circumstances."
[23:15:05] Dura Levante says, "However, I am also willing to wager. That you do not achieve certain boons of Nephilim-hood without His express approval."
[23:15:11] Dura Levante says, "Which I have seen more than one of them showcase."
[23:15:43] Johan Pavlova says, "So he tempts you with power and then gatekeeps it until those who are loyal reach high enough?"
[23:15:46] Asphodel says, "So, instead you'd rather isolate them and give them just Nevanerro to save them?"
[23:16:10] Dura Levante says, "That's not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is that they can say to our faces or hide their association - but very well be, in private, sharpening daggers."
[23:16:15] Dura Levante says, "And it's likely. He encourages it."
[23:16:29] Dura Levante says, "That is what He does."
[23:16:41] Johan Pavlova says, "True, the Empyreans are proof of that."
[23:16:42] Dura Levante says, "Basically, though, Johan."
[23:16:56] Asphodel says, "And how do you know that your paranoia isn't from a string held by Nevanerro's hand--trying to ensure no one disrupts his pawns?"
[23:17:22]
She frowns. Her eyes finally open. Dura's expression darkens.
(Dura Levante)
[23:17:22] Chat command attempt: /emote She frowns. Her eyes finally open. Dura's expression darkens.
[23:17:31] Dura Levante says, "...I don't know. "
[23:17:34] Persimmon Castilund says, "Turning them away is only going to make things worse. "
[23:17:36] Asphodel says, "That's right."
[23:17:41] Asphodel says, "You don't know."
[23:18:13] Persimmon Castilund says, "Wouldn't that be what He wanted? To sow seeds of discord and turmoil?"
[23:18:13] Asphodel says, "You cannot rely on these gut feelings and intuitions--you can rely on protocol and procedure and steady, directed action."
[23:18:24] Persimmon Castilund says, "By extending a hand to them, you are doing the opposite of what He wants."
[23:18:37] Asphodel says, "Detente does not mean giving them keys to the Emerald Keep."
[23:18:37] Asphodel says, "It is--"
[23:18:43] Asphodel says, "...what grandfather does. Would do. What works."
[23:18:47] Asphodel says, "Slow, effective subversion and subdual."
[23:19:18] Johan Pavlova says, "If you could bring the other Nephilim to acknowledge you as Duchess, truly.."
[23:19:21] Dura Levante says, "They are already doing what He wants there. Subversion isn't impossible. But it's unlikely. Though not all of them are. I saw what Elfriede could do."
[23:19:37] Asphodel says, "Break them down, with kindness and care. Piece by piece, and slowly make them mi-- ours."
[23:19:50] Dura Levante says, "..."
[23:19:57] Asphodel says, "--slip of the tongue."
[23:20:01]
Dura's eyes slowly draw onto Asphodel.
(Dura Levante)
[23:20:01] Chat command attempt: /emote Dura's eyes slowly draw onto Asphodel.
[23:20:10] Johan Pavlova says, "My nephew in Rhyst"
[23:20:14] Asphodel says, "What."
[23:20:18] Asphodel says, "...what."
[23:20:40] Johan Pavlova says, "You were just talking about Paranoia and then make that slip"
[23:20:44] Dura Levante says, ". . . ."
[23:20:44] Persimmon Castilund says, "He's going through some stuff, don't mind him."
[23:20:45] Johan Pavlova says, "You absolute fucking goon"