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- philTmonx
- my current situation as much as I can divulge..
- I dont really care if parties form the "church" see this, yes there are identifiers, but no I do not attack, and the truth is just that..
- I have had an interesting if not different relation with the "church". Lines were drawn and I was not a willing participant...
- the reason I currently am uncomfortable and have concerns re my family and my actions hurting them is simple. One dosent need to attack the
- church for it to find discomfort and want to distance its self, as my situation...
- I actually turned to it for help with some very serious matters, and for that I was shut out. The problem was my mother had done some very
- unethical, flatly criminal things involving me, ie forged my name on to statements for court and entered me into several contracts, knowingly not
- disclosing them to me. She also had a man who she was engaged to 30 years ago provide her and my business partner with a fraudulent Dr note
- TAILORED WORD FOR WORD AT HIS REQUST!!!!..
- there is the issue, he is actually one of CCHR listed examples of dangerous Dr... once i finaly got my hand on copy I disclosed it to my father,
- as well as the blatent forgery, (she is an artist as well, we share an initial, but to say the least her had is very floral and distinct) my
- father read the statement in my name and instantly dropped tone, and refused to read further...
- he got involved in trying to contact her to help me straighten things out..
- i know he was doing this under direction as he would not respond or interact with me, it took days to hear response about crucial criminal
- matters, to wich the only and last response I got was my letter of disconnect, that it was to enturbulating to his health and case to comm with
- me anymore..
- I got involved with Brian and others at LACC trying to get help re the matters..
- I had to go thru a complaint process with the medical board to get copy of my aledged medical records (all BS) in it, to the medical board he
- tried to say my issues were with the church and how horrible a father I had yadda yadda...
- all things my mother provided him to keep her out of it..
- he goes as fa as aledging to have a deep undestandingand knowledge of the inner workings of the church, and had the nerve to mention their (my
- father family) EMPLOYERS...
- now mind you this man is under repremand from the medical board for his ethical flopps already, and he is nothing but an inturnist, he would have
- no right to practice if I could prove his actions..
- I have never been diagnosed, treated, hospitalized, conservitorship, nada.. Ive never taken physc meds...
- Disgusted was not the word I had for this guy.. I saw red, BLOOD RED... I disclosed it to LACC asking for help, I did not want those statements
- to get out in open court, cause it would be hurtfull to people not involved and made me a liability to my family..
- that was my mistake, I should have never disclosed it, and while Brian tried to handle me I started to get mad and hurt.. it was apparent, more
- important than my well being and safety from attack by who they already list as a danger to the public, the concern was to insulate me from the
- Power... I was stunned. there was no way for me to work out of the condition..
- no I do not hold LRH or the "church" responsable... indeed I do hold them each to their own parts.. no one has ever been able to make me do
- anything against my will nor will they.
- so i feel safe aand comfortable stating i got me one hell of a cunundrum....
- cheers and thanks again for this very comfortable space..
- I will state this in closing and post before I pull it off... the parties my family is so closely connected to, is without question one of the
- most commented on parties involved with the church publicly.. if you cant read into to that, well Im sorry thats the best I can do for now..
- that may change..
- Re: my current situation as much as I can divulge..
- im logging out now.. let that run for what its worth.. feels really good to speak on mattter ground into me that I should feel shame for
- questioning.. bless and have a nice night..
- I will be back for more..
- So my relationship with my fathers family has always been a little odd.. they opperrated on good roads good weather with anything involving my
- mother.. whatever, we all have family chit.....
- but it is something i always worked to cultivate and better. At 20 I bought them a car, knowing my younger siblings would be driving soon, and
- that my father was contimplaiting buying an other bucket, as he as per par was not in good financial standings..
- Any time there was a family issue or emergency I was there..
- this includes closing my shop for over 30 days to travel to their state to clean up after his sister who had commited suicide..
- this was of course at my expense as well, was supposed to be a few days, but no one else would show up, and just kept wasting my time, as they
- did not want me to just pack up her things, etc, that her kids wanted to see it first..
- all I got from that trip was an upset email about the $3oo in bills I had amounted in a month, my response was that the family should cover it, I
- did my part, unless they palnned to repay my airfare which was multiple of that.
- After finding out my sister was living at CC, i desided to pay a calling to let her know that if she needed anything or wanted I was there..
- at the time I had a home very close by in the hollywood hills.
- I was excited about this new oppertunity.
- first of all I had no Idea who she was working for, nor did I give a fug, I cared to try and establish a relationship with my own sister now that
- she was an adult, living by herself in my state, blocks from me..
- I had been by CC at my father direction a few times, not once was a reg ever able to get me to go on course.. whatever..
- this time i parked off the lot and just walking down the side walk to the drive way, I never stepped foot on the property, a security gaurd on
- foot, trying his best terminator tough guy look stopped me and asked me where I thought I was going, I told him, with out stopping I was going to
- the lobby.
- at this point he demanded ID, i was kynda laughing, I mean Ive been here before, my family are longstanding members.
- he said I would not be allowd in and had to leave..
- admittedly, I got my hackels up, and noticed I now was dealing with 3 gaurds..
- I told them I didnt have my ID with me wich was true, and have always been welcome here in the past.
- The group of pimple faced wannabe inforcers started trying to group question me, no problem, I easily was able to comfortable handle their silly
- questions..
- I told them fine whatever Ill leave, but indeed they would answer for it, that I had no problem KRing the silly little boy games.
- I do have tattoos and such but still, it was dumb, especially cause CC had been trying to route me in from a lower org due to what they
- considered my "celeberty" and the lower orgs I blew was not able to handle me or my ARC break with them (i did at a point tell whoever called my
- cell to "stop calling my fucking phone" it was the reg and he tried to get me routed to ethics, a 16 year old kid!!!
- who i enformed that indeed I did say that and would do much more if they did not respect my known demand to not call me on my cell, as i was on
- set and I had it on for emegencies, but they were causing me issues", that ended up getting hummor, the reg had the balls to suggest i should
- hire his cusin who was trying to learn my trade to replace me on the TV show so I could get auditing...
- that was the last time he ever spoke to me, i was so pissed I reammed the little ethics kid and demanded he handle it. this is also why and when
- CC tried to route me up)...
- I was able to get threw to them as i turned to leave exactly who I was there to see, pale face is all i can say was the reaction, with one of
- them repeating her name a few times, they had a look of oh shit we are going to eat it for this flap. I told them id return with my Id and expected them to act accordingly..
- funny enough it caused enough of an issue that by the time I got to my car my sister was calling, asking me if i had been by CC, I infomed her
- yes I had and explained that I was not to impressed with the way I was treated.
- I was gaurenteed it would not be an issue further and that she'd talk with me about it, she set an appointment with me to meet later that day.
- When I returned the first gaurd seen me, I smiled and he wouldnt even confront me, I did dig in a bit an advised him that he needed to work on
- his people skills and find his place in life..
- or that others would direct him if need be, he was low tone to say the least..
- I walked in to reception and told them who I was there to see, instantly "are you her brother, Ahhh weve heard so much about you, Ill go get her
- for you.."
- "while you wait will you watch..""no im good, I came to visit family in what is supposed to be my church and I have a lil snot nosed kid
- aggressively try and tell me im not welcome, unable to explain why or what for, Id like to see my sister" I made sure to let it be known I was
- not pleased with the treatment nor was it handled.
- My sister came bounding down with a smile, I can say that others were trying to be kind and faux welcoming, but i knew it was soley for the
- disrespect i was shown prior..
- any way took sis to lunch, she repetedly appologised for the security, saying it had been tightened up as there were VIPs living there at the
- time, I flatly told here I didnt give a chit who was there that it was silly, and that flaty told her that they needed to be more careful, as i
- was in the public street, and if i had been public or an adverse party, it would have been an issue.
- this did not exactly comfort her, but she said she understood.
- she did tell me who she was working for, and expressed her plesure with it, i was happy for her, it sounded like a great job and experiance and
- she said she was being taken care of.
- i asked her about her living, and she related that she had been staying with an other girl in a small room, but that it didnt bother her, as she
- was rarely there and what not.
- I was pleased with the visit, tho I could tell that LA was still a big monster to her.
- one example was her retelling of how entubulated day labors at home depot had made her one day, we both giggled about that.
- I told her that there was a possibility I could get her a small personal place on my property if she was interested, that it was close to CC but
- that she could have some me time there.
- she was into it.. She moved into a small cottage in my yard. I was very pleased and happy I had family around and that I was available to her..
- anyway, her work kept her busy and i actually rarely saw her.. she kept saying stuff about a roommate and i was shocked it was a small place..
- I get a text from her, "I just wanted to give you a heads up pops and mom(hers) will be there tommorrow and that she was moving in.... I was
- stunned and shocked.. hurt really..
- I was infomed that apparently my step mother had been out a few times in the past months for auditing and stuff for her job and that she had
- decided to take it, and that in a few months the whole family would be out here..
- I honestly was livid, I felt so insignificant and again not a part of what was supposidly my family, it brought up issues I had with my father
- taveling to the city i lived in for 30 years with out so much as an invite to lunch, nothing...
- It turned out that it was for the greater good I was not ever informed of even the possibility let alone hey, more people living on my property
- oh yeah and its "family" I didnt go in my yard from that point till they moved at which time all 4 of them were living there..
- thank you, its part of my connfussion..
- Yes i ack that the way I personally grew up was odd, I felt very isolated from the world at times, but again, I have a hard time bitching, cause
- the totality of my past experiences puts me here.
- I like any other have had my highs and my lows.. part of why i belive i was always so driven is that I wanted approval, i wanted what i saw other
- kids had with their families, I did not know that it was never to be...
- I did belive that it was me and my fault, that i was the one who could make it right.. as for my fathers side, I never felt good enough or worthy
- of the love he shared with his other kids.. so applying what I knew, this just meant work HARDER..
- I was always reminded EVERYTHING IS MY RESPONSABILITY AND FAULT, that it was my choice be victim or at cause.. and the reality of that is i had
- been victimized in ways I dont want to confront right now, and the shame definatly drove me to ensure I was at cause...
- also when you dont have room to fall back, well you just dont.. (no family and ZERO long term family friends) as uncomfortable as i was in my
- skin and enviroment, i wanted better, was scared chitless of falling down.. touch back assists were always embarissing, I couldnt immagine what
- would happen if i fell down in life.. (i did find out later and that cycle sucked..)
- i learned early that for me asking for help meant I failed self.. and the result was always unplesent and demeaning.
- It meant i was doing it wrong and at that point would be ground in how i was wrong and none of my effort was worth while..
- I think thats what i longed for most i never heard "its ok better luck next time, dont worry about it it happens to the best of us, etc..."
- and yup, as no suprise Ive had the littiny of unhealthy relationships for it..
- after a long few nights, I recognize I dont owe anyone anything re the church and secrets..
- so I am willing to put this out for now.
- My little sister is suri's nanny, and her mother runs the cruz house as its set up as an org..
- It is Brian at LACC's fault I diluge these thing, MAN UP BRIAN. I GAVE YOU AMPLE WARNING TO HELP CORRECT WRONGS THAT LEAVE YOUR GROUP AT
- LIABILITY.
- AS FOR PUBLIC RECORD, MY TRIAL RE DR KIPPER (CCRH LISTED) STARTS NEXT WEEK..
- I SHOWED YOU WHAT HE HAD TO SAY NAMING MY FAMILY THERE JOBS AND RELATION TO SCIO., YOU CHOOSE TO, AFTER NOT HANDLING ME THRU THREAT TO SAY YOU
- HAD TO GO AND WOULD CALL ME BACK, MONTHS AGO, COMM LAG FAIL, AND AS I TOLD YOU WITH NO SUPPORT FROM THE GOUP, TO DEFEND MYSELF, MY ONLY OPTION IS
- TO LEAN IN TO THE REPORT AND MAKEIT PUBLIC RECORD IN OPEN COURT..
- ALSO IF ANY ONE WANTS TO KNOW HOW MUCH TOMMY SPENT ON HIS FLAMING PINK TRIM PACKAGE FOR HIS ESCALADE, I GOT YOU, I DIDNT EVEN DO THE JOB, BUT WAS
- EASY TO FIND OUT.
- SIDE NOTE THE BOYS AT THE SHOP HAD A GAS LAUGHING AT IT, AND ASKED ME IF THE GUY WAS GAY..(NO HOMOPHOB, BUT YOU HAVE TO ADMIT IT WAS, CUTE TO SAY
- THE LEAST HAHAHA)
- MOORE TO COME, MUCH MORE..
- WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO BRIAN, I AM THE FLAP, EITHER WAY, I ALREADY LOST MY FAMILY (OR AS CLOSE TO THAT AS I EVER HAD) YOU CANT DO CHIT... YOU
- CANT BAD MOUTH ME, ALL YOU CAN DO IS TRY AND DISTANCE YOURSELVES BUT ONCE IM IN OPEN COURT, ITS DONE..
- THANK YOURSELF..
- FOR MY PART YOUR WELCOME YOU FAKE WEAK CHUMP...
- ps it is the exact reason you never could get me on course or reg me for a damn thing... arent you supposed to be some wizz kid..
- I am just starting to put myself in exchange for your acts.. It is ethical, and I do not feel bad, why should I try and protect what has hurt me
- so bad and cheated me out of what I hold dear unjustly, for your own gains.. you have been criminal in exchange and right now, IM GRINNING...
- lets go..
- bessos,
- lovesphilth..
- *i will post my true photo as my avitar later today.. and no i dont mind a challenge.. I do like taking things head on.
- So I am clear, my big break with the group was due to my reaching out for help to stop the desimination of black pr, of one of their cherrished
- powers.
- I was a victim to criminal fraud and forgery by my buissness partner.
- my only goal was to get help keeping my family out of my personal battles with getting this handled..
- they where given the documents, the admititn of forgeries and fraud, I did not ask them to fight my fight, I only wanted help protecting my
- family and "group" from injury undue.
- what will come out inn court is nothing short of slanderous aimed at the church, and the funny thing is, the Dr blames the church and my family
- for neglect etc.. so, like I said, my only option is to lean right the fug on in.. I got 33 years of cht to talk, I have not even started.
- aface, cheers, I really was sincear when I thanked you for your perspective.. I think its a lil ovious why I had my conncerns tho, right? like I
- said you can be a liability to the group with out attacking..
- I figured this might excite a few.. and prolly enrage more.. cause aint a DAMN THING THEY CAN DO OR SAY WITH OUT LOOKING CHITTY.
- lurker, thank you for taking the time and effort to so kindly and eliquently pass that on to me.. what you say is 100% valid, and i to have known
- this for along time, now how much of it I would admit to self is the other filp to that.
- My intention for participating is not for a pitty party, we all have our chit, and I do not belive there is a perfect family or child hood,
- there are some better than others..
- I honestly am not upset by my childhood, it is what it was, and like ive said, regaurdless, it helped form my character and become who I am
- today, wins downss and all..
- I do like me, and I continue to work on me, thus my struggle with my situation at times..
- It is not something easy to share, not so much out of shamme, but rather, its not relatable to most who have no experiance with peopel involved
- with that "group"..
- a side note, what some in my family consider falling down, basically for me I was always looked at as stats of my condition..
- an example, I made the choice to shut one of my shops down, cause it was not doing so well at the time, i was struggling and working too hard to
- keep just the doors open, I payed all my bills and met my debts, I closed to stay ahead.
- But yes in some perverse logic, my family considred it a down stat move!!!!!
- i was regressing.. on my part, I dont agree, and didnt...
- I really appreciate your consideration for my feelings and being productive in allowing me to feel comfortable here...
- now for the fun stuff, tooo much ick for now... read on, i expose a little more of my self, and Im sure most around these here parts will find
- it interesting...
- Enjoy..
- and thank you again for the very thoughtful response
- sorry companion not nanny.. wrong term now.. but yeah has been for 4+ years, shes the only long term, they burn em out...
- they are lucky that being that they work for public, they are compensated for overtime well my sister was, my step mom may have been salary if im
- not mistaken..
- but yes they run there home as an org, and boy is some of the chit they do just grim...
- for instance the do not donate any of suris used anything..
- It all is destroyed, when she was a baby they would always ship supplies out to where they were, cause you know has to be the same approved
- everything..
- at the end of their trips they would DESTROY all extra good so no one could resale etc suris goods.. this did strike me as odd, as there had to
- be good causes that could have used it, dipers fomula etc.. crazy..and if you consider the locations of thier shoots and such its just mind
- boggling wasteful and somebody thinks way too much about themselves...
- really, im sure people would not have tried to resell unused pampers etc, Im sure there were families in need of those goods...
- yeah right greater good.. It actually eked me so bad that for a few weeks I worked on plans for my sister to be able to institute a different way
- to handle it, I developed what mirrored a retail master pack system to facilitate, that was a per day based way to sort store and ship the
- goods..
- I know she was very exscited with the concept, but it was not well recived, AS SHE WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO DISCLOSE TO ME WHO SHE WORKED FOR.. but
- yeah more for laters...
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