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  1. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:26 PM
  2. wow, by accusing soundwave, you unlocked the event to talk to Haku privately
  3. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:52 PM
  4. neat
  5. I found that response strange
  6. of his
  7. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:53 PM
  8. it is indeed strange~
  9. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:53 PM
  10. I'm at work so can't go deeper into it yet
  11. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:53 PM
  12. my biggest issue with him is understanding where he's coming from
  13. but yeah
  14. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:53 PM
  15. I also don't know Soundwave that we'll
  16. well*
  17. but I'll keep an eye on him
  18. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:54 PM
  19. I already have 3 scum leans and im trying to check in if everyone else is town
  20. rofl
  21. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:54 PM
  22. Oh damn
  23. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:54 PM
  24. mathetmatically speaking, I'm unlikely to be 3/3
  25. but still
  26. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:54 PM
  27. Haku putting in work
  28. what are your thoughts?
  29. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:55 PM
  30. http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=4541199&postcount=58 this post is no joke
  31. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:55 PM
  32. oh I see
  33. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:55 PM
  34. the longer I don't receive a serious answer, the more suspect they feel
  35. none of them talked to me privately
  36. or tried to interact with me
  37. thread just stagnated instead
  38. eva is most likely town and I talked enough with raeko to town read her relatively safely
  39. but feel free to evaluate them your way
  40. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:57 PM
  41. did you talk to eva too?
  42. or just from thread?
  43. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:57 PM
  44. huh the beginning of the channel discussion
  45. in discord
  46. it's with me and her
  47. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:57 PM
  48. I'll check it out later
  49. on phone
  50. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:57 PM
  51. I don't feel any fear from her in the talk etc.
  52. she's just on her trip doing her own thing
  53. and it felt genuine enough to me
  54. previous game I misread her as wolf
  55. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:59 PM
  56. I think that's a fair evaluation but consider that her behavior may change once she's in the spotlight
  57. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:59 PM
  58. I think the struggle is more within lightknight/soundwave/tyrantneptune
  59. I can't believe tyrantneptune's entrance tbh
  60. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:59 PM
  61. specifically, once she's forced to address the game
  62. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:59 PM
  63. oh, im cool with anyone evaluating her
  64. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:59 PM
  65. a town lean based on posting about her trip is a little too fast
  66. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:00 PM
  67. but ill probably protect her if I don't see anything more serious
  68. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:00 PM
  69. that's fine
  70. エヴァを守る
  71. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:00 PM
  72. lol at you being #1 poster
  73. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:00 PM
  74. lol
  75. I was bored last night
  76. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:01 PM
  77. プロジェクトエヴァ
  78. yeah it's fine
  79. you're like null town lean for me atm
  80. because I don't really see anything "bad"
  81. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:05 PM
  82. :thumbsup:
  83. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:05 PM
  84. I think flashflash account may be a lost town, but not sure
  85. super curious about posting evolution from LightKnight/Soundwave/TyrantNeptune
  86. Tokzic / DanikaBanana didn't post
  87. but for Tokzic that's kinda normal
  88. and Danika is just (I have no idea)
  89. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:08 PM
  90. what did you find towny about raeko
  91. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:08 PM
  92. I spent over 1 hour talking 1 on 1 with her
  93. and she hasn't slipped anything even once
  94. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:09 PM
  95. are you looking for slips or are you looking for towny behavior?
  96. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:09 PM
  97. I'm looking at actions/intentions
  98. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:09 PM
  99. for me there's a difference
  100. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:09 PM
  101. this raeko is super active
  102. and the actions makes sense a lot
  103. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:10 PM
  104. ok but you justified raeko as town because "she didn't slip"
  105. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:10 PM
  106. yeah
  107. I was like "fight me"
  108. and we talked mega fast to each others
  109. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:10 PM
  110. I see
  111. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:11 PM
  112. if she's wolf, she will eventually reach a point where she's not going to like what I'm doing
  113. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:11 PM
  114. I don't really follow
  115. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:11 PM
  116. I, Haku, am the greatest annoyance for a wolf team
  117. because I'm here 24/24 7/7
  118. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:12 PM
  119. wolf raeko doesn't seem to me like a person to actively try to screw over town
  120. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:12 PM
  121. well, except when I sleep
  122. yeah
  123. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:12 PM
  124. but rather to try to blend in
  125. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:12 PM
  126. im making her talk to others and ask things etc.
  127. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:12 PM
  128. so you're bringing her out of her comfort zone if she's a wolf then
  129. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:13 PM
  130. well, my goal is to force people to join me and complete a town circle somehow
  131. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:13 PM
  132. I kind of understand
  133. I think that's probably a towny thing
  134. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:14 PM
  135. I mostly need to find who is everyone targeting this phase as a lynch
  136. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:14 PM
  137. so I'll say just be careful about building a town circle
  138. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:15 PM
  139. yeah
  140. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:15 PM
  141. it's easy to fall into confirmation bias
  142. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:15 PM
  143. choof/roundbox are hard to solve for me
  144. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:15 PM
  145. I think it's a good strategy in the long run but don't get locked in
  146. I can't read choof that we'll
  147. well
  148. roundbox should be easy to read as a function of time
  149. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:16 PM
  150. but roundbox is also hard for me to get on my side
  151. because im more on the spectrum of "feelings" and he's more on the "reason" side
  152. with bad ass cases nonetheless
  153. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:16 PM
  154. "get on your side"(
  155. ?
  156. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:16 PM
  157. we played WiFoM game together
  158. we were both town
  159. but we couldn't agree on same opinions
  160. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:17 PM
  161. I'm a little worried that you phrased it like that
  162. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:17 PM
  163. and I couldn't see myself convince him
  164. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:17 PM
  165. do you mean add to a town circle?
  166. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:17 PM
  167. there's players who are always going to be very independant
  168. and it's cool, but still
  169. when you're two players in the same factions targeting different players someone has to be wrong somehow
  170. and if the person who is wrong has stronger arguments
  171. idk what to do
  172. tl;dr: roundbox usually has better reasons than me at everything
  173. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:18 PM
  174. ok first of all that presumes you are both town
  175. and if you think he is town, why is it bad that he goes on his own?
  176. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:20 PM
  177. he was targeting other towns
  178. and his wagon was constantly winning
  179. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:20 PM
  180. I don't think I can adequately describe my thoughts over phone
  181. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:21 PM
  182. it was to the point where I was whining in self-pity about how there's only one person who can get lynched because of wagons forcing that
  183. I had scenarios where kills don't make sense because everyone wants that person dead
  184. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:22 PM
  185. but it's definitely not a bad thing if Townies have different opinions
  186. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:22 PM
  187. in a mylo, it's instant game over
  188. if they vote different players
  189. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:22 PM
  190. but we're not at mylo
  191. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:22 PM
  192. it's still the same system
  193. it's not more okay because we're not in mylo heh
  194. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:23 PM
  195. I'm just saying that trying to coerce ppl to join your circle and all 100% share the same opinions is dangerous as fuck
  196. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:23 PM
  197. yup
  198. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:23 PM
  199. because a wolf can easily manipulate that
  200. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:23 PM
  201. but that's the point of a town circle
  202. im unlikely to be right about everything
  203. that's where the other players comes in
  204. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:23 PM
  205. or if you are a wolf, you can easily manipulate things
  206. ok I think we are arguing two different things here
  207. anyway, time will tell for roundbox imo
  208. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:24 PM
  209. im fairly easy to town tell, but I don't want to give you a self-meta lesson about me lol
  210. DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:25 PM
  211. I'm just a little confused but I'll check back in later
  212. Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:25 PM
  213. yeah idc much about roundbox, my 3 wolf leans are my main worry atm
  214. but what makes lynches happen is votes and I care about why others vote a certain way
  215. because you can have an entire wolf team down and you end up watching towns die one by one instead
  216. because you don't have town majority's with you
  217. I'm tilted TyrantNeptune's logic
  218. April 6, 2017
  219. Hakulyte - Last Thursday at 8:05 PM
  220. DBP
  221. what do you think of
  222.  
  223. this hyper fast haku town read
  224. I have a harder time town reading DFR than Danika
  225. Hakulyte - Last Thursday at 10:16 PM
  226. are you around?
  227. DaBackpack - Last Thursday at 10:19 PM
  228. kind of
  229. Hakulyte - Last Thursday at 10:20 PM
  230. I forgot to ask Nakah about TyrantNeptune
  231. about how he managed to invite him in the game
  232. without him knowing he's Nakah
  233. DaBackpack - Last Thursday at 10:20 PM
  234. prolly just something silly
  235. Hakulyte - Last Thursday at 10:20 PM
  236. (that's assuming no one is lying)
  237. yeah, but it's worth clarifying
  238. DaBackpack - Last Thursday at 10:20 PM
  239. sure
  240. Hakulyte - Last Thursday at 10:21 PM
  241. especially because tyrantneptune didnt do much in this game
  242. at least, up to this point
  243. DaBackpack - Last Thursday at 10:21 PM
  244. I don't really know how to summon him to the game
  245. maybe nakah can help to that end yeah
  246. Hakulyte - Last Thursday at 10:21 PM
  247. I tried to talk to him but he's like "just because I'm online, doesn't mean im here for TWG"
  248. @ TyrantNeptune
  249. said that in channel if you feel courageous
  250. roundbox is the only player I didn't talk much to besides that I think
  251. like I don't even have a 1 on 1 with him
  252. DaBackpack - Last Thursday at 10:24 PM
  253. did you try?
  254. Hakulyte - Last Thursday at 10:26 PM
  255. he's online, but not responding
  256. and im close to going to sleep
  257. I did pm him
  258. oh
  259. I thought you were talking about nakah
  260. derp
  261. no, I didn't try pming roundbox
  262. DaBackpack - Last Thursday at 10:27 PM
  263. sleep is good
  264. Hakulyte - Last Thursday at 10:27 PM
  265. ofc freezinice just got online
  266. :v
  267. guess ill stay another 30min or so
  268.  
  269. DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 5:55 PM
  270. can you send me your skype log with flash?
  271. Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:01 PM
  272. that's not anywhere as interesting as my 1 on 1 log on discord
  273. but I don't mind
  274. whatever.txt
  275. 7.66 KB
  276. im pretty derp city in that log but heh
  277. DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:04 PM
  278. can you share your 1 on 1 with him on discord too please?
  279. (also, thanks)
  280. Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:06 PM
  281. :thinking:
  282. DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:07 PM
  283. ?
  284. :Thinking:
  285. ah
  286. :thinking:
  287. Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:08 PM
  288. it was more like "why do I trust you again?"
  289. DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:09 PM
  290. why would you not share your logs?
  291. i'm detectiving son
  292. Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:09 PM
  293. oh interesting
  294. this log is a lot longer
  295. ohi.txt
  296. 13.63 KB
  297. DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:10 PM
  298. thanks
  299. Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:10 PM
  300. in b4 "why is there roundbox stuff here"
  301. DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:11 PM
  302. i'll take a look at this in a bit
  303. trying to figure soething out about flash
  304. Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:12 PM
  305. im trying to understand why soundwave clears nakah kinda and trend me down
  306. considering it looked the opposite way in our 1 on 1
  307. as for flashflash im waiting to see how his vote on eva evolves
  308. same with tokzic voting roundbox
  309. game's weir
  310. weird*
  311. DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:13 PM
  312. how do you feel about roundbox?
  313. Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:13 PM
  314. I'm stuck on null with him
  315. and im kinda paranoid
  316. about how he's friendly with me
  317. tbh I just want to see him do anything
  318. talked about danikabanana'd flip. talk about wagons idc
  319. talk*
  320. I just don't understand his game
  321. http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=4541589&postcount=167 that's weird
  322. vote choof without reasoning
  323. I know he's studying and got irl stuff
  324. I know he was playing dota
  325. huh
  326. DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:15 PM
  327. how was he being friendly with you?
  328. Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:16 PM
  329. but in terms of game interaction im just like wut-
  330. I 1 on 1 him
  331. and he said he would value more my reads
  332. and we never really argued about anything all game
  333. his reads looks similar to mine
  334. except that he has freezinice town
  335. eva town read him
  336. which I don't understand
  337. because roundbox's wolf meta is to emulated his own game
  338. emulate*
  339. I told eva about that
  340. and she's kinda paranoid about it
  341. DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:17 PM
  342. re: roundbox
  343. do you think he was sheeping you, or just trying not to rock the boat
  344. Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:17 PM
  345. both ?
  346. I'm assuming he has little to no information this game
  347. and just followed along
  348. he has a small lie with me
  349. in 1 on 1
  350. but he could have just forgot
  351. I asked him if I was the first person to talk to him
  352. and he said I was
  353. but freezinice talked to him before
  354. but he himself provided me that log with freezinice talking to him
  355. but I feel like he should remember who he talked to
  356. or at least that he talked with someone else
  357. DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:19 PM
  358. tha'ts something important to keep in mind
  359. Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:19 PM
  360. I talk about that with flashflash
  361. in that .txt file
  362. it's one of the first things I mention
  363. tbh you should read it
  364. just to get a clue of where im at
  365. not just for him
  366. also, I have no idea what you're doing this game
  367. DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:20 PM
  368. what do you mean
  369. Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:20 PM
  370. I have no idea what are your reads
  371. DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:20 PM
  372. I posted them in the general chat last night
  373. Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:20 PM
  374. I may have overlooked it
  375. DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:20 PM
  376. let me link
  377. changed a bbit since last night, so i'll update
  378. Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:23 PM
  379. http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=4541751&postcount=200
  380. still weird reads fmpov
  381. but interesting nonetheless
  382. just a reminder of roundbox's reads
  383. DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:28 PM
  384. I told roundbox to keep up with the game
  385. and he got mad at me
  386. Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:29 PM
  387. well "keep up"
  388. outside of asking things to others, there's not much to do
  389. DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:30 PM
  390. I mean, I told him I was kind of scumreading him
  391. and that him posting up-to-date reads would give me insight
  392. and he got mad
  393. Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:30 PM
  394. I don't know how to read into that tbh
  395. DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:31 PM
  396. I just want him to... be himself
  397. the self that I can read as town normally
  398. otherwise, it's not a good look
  399. roundbox - Today at 6:27 PM
  400. so I'm scum because I have no scum cases against anybody
  401. considering the previous game I was wrong on all of my reads and it is in no way affecting my perception of events at all
  402. k
  403. i'm not going ot read into this too much
  404. Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:32 PM
  405. this game is cancer for creating cases tbh
  406. DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:33 PM
  407. but here's the thing
  408. it doesn't look like he's even trying
  409. Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:33 PM
  410. wouldn't a wolf roundbox be more motivated?
  411. 'cause he knows the truth etc.
  412. idk
  413. I don't really have much data on him as wolf
  414. I'm just assuming he's emulating his town game
  415. im surprised he would emulate frustration
  416. not sure how to read into that
  417. DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:36 PM
  418. he told me he would share his thoughts later
  419. Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:49 PM
  420. ah ok
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