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- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:26 PM
- wow, by accusing soundwave, you unlocked the event to talk to Haku privately
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:52 PM
- neat
- I found that response strange
- of his
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:53 PM
- it is indeed strange~
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:53 PM
- I'm at work so can't go deeper into it yet
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:53 PM
- my biggest issue with him is understanding where he's coming from
- but yeah
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:53 PM
- I also don't know Soundwave that we'll
- well*
- but I'll keep an eye on him
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:54 PM
- I already have 3 scum leans and im trying to check in if everyone else is town
- rofl
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:54 PM
- Oh damn
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:54 PM
- mathetmatically speaking, I'm unlikely to be 3/3
- but still
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:54 PM
- Haku putting in work
- what are your thoughts?
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:55 PM
- http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=4541199&postcount=58 this post is no joke
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:55 PM
- oh I see
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:55 PM
- the longer I don't receive a serious answer, the more suspect they feel
- none of them talked to me privately
- or tried to interact with me
- thread just stagnated instead
- eva is most likely town and I talked enough with raeko to town read her relatively safely
- but feel free to evaluate them your way
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:57 PM
- did you talk to eva too?
- or just from thread?
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:57 PM
- huh the beginning of the channel discussion
- in discord
- it's with me and her
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:57 PM
- I'll check it out later
- on phone
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:57 PM
- I don't feel any fear from her in the talk etc.
- she's just on her trip doing her own thing
- and it felt genuine enough to me
- previous game I misread her as wolf
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:59 PM
- I think that's a fair evaluation but consider that her behavior may change once she's in the spotlight
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:59 PM
- I think the struggle is more within lightknight/soundwave/tyrantneptune
- I can't believe tyrantneptune's entrance tbh
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:59 PM
- specifically, once she's forced to address the game
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 3:59 PM
- oh, im cool with anyone evaluating her
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 3:59 PM
- a town lean based on posting about her trip is a little too fast
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:00 PM
- but ill probably protect her if I don't see anything more serious
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:00 PM
- that's fine
- エヴァを守る
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:00 PM
- lol at you being #1 poster
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:00 PM
- lol
- I was bored last night
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:01 PM
- プロジェクトエヴァ
- yeah it's fine
- you're like null town lean for me atm
- because I don't really see anything "bad"
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:05 PM
- :thumbsup:
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:05 PM
- I think flashflash account may be a lost town, but not sure
- super curious about posting evolution from LightKnight/Soundwave/TyrantNeptune
- Tokzic / DanikaBanana didn't post
- but for Tokzic that's kinda normal
- and Danika is just (I have no idea)
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:08 PM
- what did you find towny about raeko
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:08 PM
- I spent over 1 hour talking 1 on 1 with her
- and she hasn't slipped anything even once
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:09 PM
- are you looking for slips or are you looking for towny behavior?
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:09 PM
- I'm looking at actions/intentions
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:09 PM
- for me there's a difference
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:09 PM
- this raeko is super active
- and the actions makes sense a lot
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:10 PM
- ok but you justified raeko as town because "she didn't slip"
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:10 PM
- yeah
- I was like "fight me"
- and we talked mega fast to each others
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:10 PM
- I see
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:11 PM
- if she's wolf, she will eventually reach a point where she's not going to like what I'm doing
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:11 PM
- I don't really follow
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:11 PM
- I, Haku, am the greatest annoyance for a wolf team
- because I'm here 24/24 7/7
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:12 PM
- wolf raeko doesn't seem to me like a person to actively try to screw over town
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:12 PM
- well, except when I sleep
- yeah
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:12 PM
- but rather to try to blend in
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:12 PM
- im making her talk to others and ask things etc.
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:12 PM
- so you're bringing her out of her comfort zone if she's a wolf then
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:13 PM
- well, my goal is to force people to join me and complete a town circle somehow
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:13 PM
- I kind of understand
- I think that's probably a towny thing
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:14 PM
- I mostly need to find who is everyone targeting this phase as a lynch
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:14 PM
- so I'll say just be careful about building a town circle
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:15 PM
- yeah
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:15 PM
- it's easy to fall into confirmation bias
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:15 PM
- choof/roundbox are hard to solve for me
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:15 PM
- I think it's a good strategy in the long run but don't get locked in
- I can't read choof that we'll
- well
- roundbox should be easy to read as a function of time
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:16 PM
- but roundbox is also hard for me to get on my side
- because im more on the spectrum of "feelings" and he's more on the "reason" side
- with bad ass cases nonetheless
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:16 PM
- "get on your side"(
- ?
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:16 PM
- we played WiFoM game together
- we were both town
- but we couldn't agree on same opinions
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:17 PM
- I'm a little worried that you phrased it like that
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:17 PM
- and I couldn't see myself convince him
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:17 PM
- do you mean add to a town circle?
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:17 PM
- there's players who are always going to be very independant
- and it's cool, but still
- when you're two players in the same factions targeting different players someone has to be wrong somehow
- and if the person who is wrong has stronger arguments
- idk what to do
- tl;dr: roundbox usually has better reasons than me at everything
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:18 PM
- ok first of all that presumes you are both town
- and if you think he is town, why is it bad that he goes on his own?
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:20 PM
- he was targeting other towns
- and his wagon was constantly winning
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:20 PM
- I don't think I can adequately describe my thoughts over phone
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:21 PM
- it was to the point where I was whining in self-pity about how there's only one person who can get lynched because of wagons forcing that
- I had scenarios where kills don't make sense because everyone wants that person dead
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:22 PM
- but it's definitely not a bad thing if Townies have different opinions
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:22 PM
- in a mylo, it's instant game over
- if they vote different players
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:22 PM
- but we're not at mylo
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:22 PM
- it's still the same system
- it's not more okay because we're not in mylo heh
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:23 PM
- I'm just saying that trying to coerce ppl to join your circle and all 100% share the same opinions is dangerous as fuck
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:23 PM
- yup
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:23 PM
- because a wolf can easily manipulate that
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:23 PM
- but that's the point of a town circle
- im unlikely to be right about everything
- that's where the other players comes in
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:23 PM
- or if you are a wolf, you can easily manipulate things
- ok I think we are arguing two different things here
- anyway, time will tell for roundbox imo
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:24 PM
- im fairly easy to town tell, but I don't want to give you a self-meta lesson about me lol
- DaBackpack - Last Wednesday at 4:25 PM
- I'm just a little confused but I'll check back in later
- Hakulyte - Last Wednesday at 4:25 PM
- yeah idc much about roundbox, my 3 wolf leans are my main worry atm
- but what makes lynches happen is votes and I care about why others vote a certain way
- because you can have an entire wolf team down and you end up watching towns die one by one instead
- because you don't have town majority's with you
- I'm tilted TyrantNeptune's logic
- April 6, 2017
- Hakulyte - Last Thursday at 8:05 PM
- DBP
- what do you think of
- this hyper fast haku town read
- I have a harder time town reading DFR than Danika
- Hakulyte - Last Thursday at 10:16 PM
- are you around?
- DaBackpack - Last Thursday at 10:19 PM
- kind of
- Hakulyte - Last Thursday at 10:20 PM
- I forgot to ask Nakah about TyrantNeptune
- about how he managed to invite him in the game
- without him knowing he's Nakah
- DaBackpack - Last Thursday at 10:20 PM
- prolly just something silly
- Hakulyte - Last Thursday at 10:20 PM
- (that's assuming no one is lying)
- yeah, but it's worth clarifying
- DaBackpack - Last Thursday at 10:20 PM
- sure
- Hakulyte - Last Thursday at 10:21 PM
- especially because tyrantneptune didnt do much in this game
- at least, up to this point
- DaBackpack - Last Thursday at 10:21 PM
- I don't really know how to summon him to the game
- maybe nakah can help to that end yeah
- Hakulyte - Last Thursday at 10:21 PM
- I tried to talk to him but he's like "just because I'm online, doesn't mean im here for TWG"
- @ TyrantNeptune
- said that in channel if you feel courageous
- roundbox is the only player I didn't talk much to besides that I think
- like I don't even have a 1 on 1 with him
- DaBackpack - Last Thursday at 10:24 PM
- did you try?
- Hakulyte - Last Thursday at 10:26 PM
- he's online, but not responding
- and im close to going to sleep
- I did pm him
- oh
- I thought you were talking about nakah
- derp
- no, I didn't try pming roundbox
- DaBackpack - Last Thursday at 10:27 PM
- sleep is good
- Hakulyte - Last Thursday at 10:27 PM
- ofc freezinice just got online
- :v
- guess ill stay another 30min or so
- DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 5:55 PM
- can you send me your skype log with flash?
- Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:01 PM
- that's not anywhere as interesting as my 1 on 1 log on discord
- but I don't mind
- whatever.txt
- 7.66 KB
- im pretty derp city in that log but heh
- DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:04 PM
- can you share your 1 on 1 with him on discord too please?
- (also, thanks)
- Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:06 PM
- :thinking:
- DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:07 PM
- ?
- :Thinking:
- ah
- :thinking:
- Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:08 PM
- it was more like "why do I trust you again?"
- DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:09 PM
- why would you not share your logs?
- i'm detectiving son
- Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:09 PM
- oh interesting
- this log is a lot longer
- ohi.txt
- 13.63 KB
- DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:10 PM
- thanks
- Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:10 PM
- in b4 "why is there roundbox stuff here"
- DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:11 PM
- i'll take a look at this in a bit
- trying to figure soething out about flash
- Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:12 PM
- im trying to understand why soundwave clears nakah kinda and trend me down
- considering it looked the opposite way in our 1 on 1
- as for flashflash im waiting to see how his vote on eva evolves
- same with tokzic voting roundbox
- game's weir
- weird*
- DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:13 PM
- how do you feel about roundbox?
- Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:13 PM
- I'm stuck on null with him
- and im kinda paranoid
- about how he's friendly with me
- tbh I just want to see him do anything
- talked about danikabanana'd flip. talk about wagons idc
- talk*
- I just don't understand his game
- http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=4541589&postcount=167 that's weird
- vote choof without reasoning
- I know he's studying and got irl stuff
- I know he was playing dota
- huh
- DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:15 PM
- how was he being friendly with you?
- Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:16 PM
- but in terms of game interaction im just like wut-
- I 1 on 1 him
- and he said he would value more my reads
- and we never really argued about anything all game
- his reads looks similar to mine
- except that he has freezinice town
- eva town read him
- which I don't understand
- because roundbox's wolf meta is to emulated his own game
- emulate*
- I told eva about that
- and she's kinda paranoid about it
- DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:17 PM
- re: roundbox
- do you think he was sheeping you, or just trying not to rock the boat
- Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:17 PM
- both ?
- I'm assuming he has little to no information this game
- and just followed along
- he has a small lie with me
- in 1 on 1
- but he could have just forgot
- I asked him if I was the first person to talk to him
- and he said I was
- but freezinice talked to him before
- but he himself provided me that log with freezinice talking to him
- but I feel like he should remember who he talked to
- or at least that he talked with someone else
- DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:19 PM
- tha'ts something important to keep in mind
- Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:19 PM
- I talk about that with flashflash
- in that .txt file
- it's one of the first things I mention
- tbh you should read it
- just to get a clue of where im at
- not just for him
- also, I have no idea what you're doing this game
- DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:20 PM
- what do you mean
- Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:20 PM
- I have no idea what are your reads
- DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:20 PM
- I posted them in the general chat last night
- Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:20 PM
- I may have overlooked it
- DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:20 PM
- let me link
- changed a bbit since last night, so i'll update
- Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:23 PM
- http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=4541751&postcount=200
- still weird reads fmpov
- but interesting nonetheless
- just a reminder of roundbox's reads
- DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:28 PM
- I told roundbox to keep up with the game
- and he got mad at me
- Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:29 PM
- well "keep up"
- outside of asking things to others, there's not much to do
- DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:30 PM
- I mean, I told him I was kind of scumreading him
- and that him posting up-to-date reads would give me insight
- and he got mad
- Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:30 PM
- I don't know how to read into that tbh
- DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:31 PM
- I just want him to... be himself
- the self that I can read as town normally
- otherwise, it's not a good look
- roundbox - Today at 6:27 PM
- so I'm scum because I have no scum cases against anybody
- considering the previous game I was wrong on all of my reads and it is in no way affecting my perception of events at all
- k
- i'm not going ot read into this too much
- Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:32 PM
- this game is cancer for creating cases tbh
- DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:33 PM
- but here's the thing
- it doesn't look like he's even trying
- Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:33 PM
- wouldn't a wolf roundbox be more motivated?
- 'cause he knows the truth etc.
- idk
- I don't really have much data on him as wolf
- I'm just assuming he's emulating his town game
- im surprised he would emulate frustration
- not sure how to read into that
- DaBackpack - Last Saturday at 6:36 PM
- he told me he would share his thoughts later
- Hakulyte - Last Saturday at 6:49 PM
- ah ok
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