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[19:59:38] StaraptorIsTheStar: kinda weird how analysis for Xatu doesn't have Giga Drain > Roost
[19:59:40] FredMercury: I gen in 2 Dragonites for HM slaves :^)
[19:59:40] StaraptorIsTheStar: imo
[19:59:45] FredMercury: Huh
[19:59:47] FredMercury: StaraptorIsTheStar no
[19:59:49] Stoned M&M: roost is reliable
[19:59:51] Stoned M&M: giga isnt
[19:59:53] FredMercury: Roost is reliable as fuck
[19:59:58] mazanyai: giga drain isnt reliable yeah
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[20:00:07] StaraptorIsTheStar: Giga Drain hits Rock types and still heals HP
[20:00:11] StaraNite: Pound is reliable!
[20:00:15] FredMercury: Xatu should always run roost
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[20:00:20] mazanyai: but it isnt reliable recovery
[20:00:21] Stoned M&M: yes but roost will always give you 50%
[20:00:25] FredMercury: Giga Drain doesn't heal a good amount every time
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[20:00:28] Stoned M&M: ^
[20:00:31] StaraptorIsTheStar: I personally run Giga Drain
[20:00:35] mazanyai: and xatu can just u-turn out on rocks and have something for them
[20:00:35] FredMercury: You shouldn'y
[20:00:39] FredMercury: you can run Roost and Giga
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[20:00:41] FredMercury: On the same set
[20:00:45] FredMercury: For Rhydon
[20:00:52] FredMercury: but like no reason to run Giga > Roost
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[20:01:32] FredMercury: Xatu is usually a pivot, having recovery is really nice and you should always run it
[20:01:36] StaraNite: Swellow has 383 At max speed right?
[20:01:37] Marsy: yay
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[20:01:42] Stoned M&M: ya StaraNite
[20:01:43] Marsy: i finaly reached 1400 ladder
[20:01:47] FredMercury: gratd
[20:01:48] lelbruh: gj
[20:01:48] StaraNite: ok
[20:01:51] Stoned M&M: grats
[20:01:52] Marsy: thx
[20:02:04] StaraptorIsTheStar: FredMercury, I have used Giga Drain. it heals HP and hits mons it can't hit like Rhydon. can hit hard after +1. and also, Heat Wave then hits mons like Ferroseed and Eviolite Scyther. then Psyshock for obvious Fighting and Poison types and STAB
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[20:02:17] lelbruh: you need roost
[20:02:21] mazanyai: heat wave doesnt even hit evi svyther tbh
[20:02:22] lelbruh: that i like
[20:02:29] lelbruh: non-negotiable
[20:02:33] lelbruh: *is
[20:02:37] mazanyai: it justs roosts off damage easy
[20:02:53] StaraptorIsTheStar: mazanyai, I mean that was only an example. My point is is that that coverage is amazing imo
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[20:03:01] StaraptorIsTheStar: that's why I have Giga Drain > Roost
[20:03:04] Xrn476: grats
[20:03:04] lelbruh: grats
[20:03:06] Stoned M&M: grats
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[20:03:08] StaraptorIsTheStar: grats
[20:03:09] PyroarMillionaire: Hey
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[20:03:10] lelbruh: bud
[20:03:14] StaraNite: I didn't want to have to run 252 Timid electrode to outspeed swellow, I wanted + Sp.Attk. Should I run magnet to make up for it?
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[20:03:16] StaraNite: Grats
[20:03:17] lelbruh: giga isn't reliable
[20:03:23] lelbruh: yes staranite
[20:03:24] mazanyai: dont run electrode
[20:03:27] mazanyai: for one
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[20:03:29] Dundies: ty
[20:03:31] lelbruh: why not
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[20:03:37] mazanyai: why
[20:03:37] StaraNite: I just want a Swellow check, mazanyai
[20:03:43] lelbruh: uh
[20:03:46] lelbruh: then use rhydon
[20:03:48] lelbruh: or smth
[20:03:58] StaraNite: I want something faster
[20:03:59] FredMercury: StaraptorIsTheStar
[20:04:02] lelbruh: electrode cant take a specs boomburst
[20:04:05] FredMercury: you can still have Giga Drain with roost
[20:04:11] StaraNite: But it's faster lel
[20:04:12] Stoned M&M: soundproof probs
[20:04:15] lelbruh: oh
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[20:04:17] lelbruh: soundsproff
[20:04:18] StaraptorIsTheStar: lelbruh, Giga Drain hits Quag and Rhydon. also, then Heat Wave and Psyshock can have even more coverage
[20:04:19] mazanyai: StaraNite. why does it matter if you can force a switch and make them take more rocks damage?
[20:04:20] FredMercury: you just lose Thunder Wave
[20:04:26] krookies: yo
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[20:04:30] Stoned M&M: StaraptorIsTheStar nobody is saying giga drain itself is bad
[20:04:35] FredMercury: Giga Drain is good
[20:04:38] Stoned M&M: theyre saying its not worth it to drop roost
[20:04:39] krookies: i just had like 30 cookies
[20:04:40] FredMercury: But you NEED roost
[20:04:43] lelbruh: ^
[20:04:43] krookies: sup peeps
[20:04:47] MARCU5theBAW5: sup
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[20:04:56] mazanyai: roost is staple on xatu tbh
[20:04:58] StaraNite: mazanyai Because then I most likely must switch away from what he switches into and take excess damage that I don't need
[20:04:58] FredMercury: if you want a coverage Xatu
[20:05:01] lelbruh: and quag and rhydon dont like psychic anyway
[20:05:07] FredMercury: you run 3 attacks roost
[20:05:10] lelbruh: ^
[20:05:11] FredMercury: or something idk
[20:05:11] krookies: specs xatu doon't need roost
[20:05:14] FredMercury: dont drop roost
[20:05:20] FredMercury: krookies stop being bad
[20:05:22] lelbruh: dont drop roost unless ur specs
[20:05:25] krookies: :[
[20:05:26] lelbruh: for some reason
[20:05:27] mazanyai: StaraNite, hes taking 25% from rocks, and boomburst does like nothing to tank rhydon
[20:05:30] StaraNite: It's easier just to have something that can check swellow, and help with taking out some other mons
[20:05:37] lelbruh: mazanyai
[20:05:40] StaraptorIsTheStar: Stoned M&M, I know it's good, but I like it over roost for both it can be good recovery and it can hit Quag, Rhydon, and Claydol for good damage with +1 with CM. then, like I said, Heat Wave and Psyshock provide more coverage
[20:05:42] StaraNite: Soundproof....
[20:05:43] mazanyai: ?
[20:05:43] lelbruh: electrode has sound prood
[20:05:45] mazanyai: i know
[20:05:47] lelbruh: *proff
[20:05:50] lelbruh: **proof
[20:05:51] StaraptorIsTheStar: I like CM + 3 attacks to hit harder
[20:05:56] lelbruh: but that is bad
[20:05:59] lelbruh: on xatu
[20:05:59] StaraptorIsTheStar: and to have coverage
[20:06:02] FredMercury: Bro
[20:06:02] mazanyai: but that doesn't seem like a worth it niche
[20:06:11] lelbruh: cm 3 attacks
[20:06:15] lelbruh: just use mesprit
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[20:06:17] FredMercury: Roost is mandatory, you can CM and roost on weak hits to CM some more
[20:06:19] lelbruh: same coverage
[20:06:22] +Blaziken1337: ^
[20:06:22] StaraptorIsTheStar: yeah okay lelbruh. you just ignored my reasoning and called it bad for nothing
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[20:06:25] StaraNite: And It's not like the rocks will matter, Swellow will not survive a max Sp.attk magnet volt switch, mazanyai
[20:06:30] FredMercury: It is bad StaraptorIsTheStar
[20:06:33] lelbruh: im not ignoring it ?_?
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[20:06:38] FredMercury: we see your logic
[20:06:38] mazanyai: StaraNite, they aren't gonna stay in :/
[20:06:40] lelbruh: you reasoning is flawed
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[20:06:45] FredMercury: You just aren't seeing ours
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[20:06:53] krookies: xatu is faster and is flying and stuff
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[20:07:02] StaraptorIsTheStar: FredMercury, look at my reasoning. has amazing coverage and can hit hard after a boost or 2
[20:07:02] FredMercury: Because if you were, you would run roost
[20:07:05] krookies: yum yum yum
[20:07:13] FredMercury: and then what?
[20:07:14] mazanyai: whatever StaraNite, you can try it, no harm in trying things out
[20:07:16] FredMercury: you get worn down
[20:07:17] FredMercury: and die
[20:07:17] krookies: those cookies were good
[20:07:17] +Blaziken1337: I'm very confused as to why you'd ever want to drop roost on xatu (no, I don't care about random gimmicks like specs xatu)
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[20:07:20] StaraNite: mazanyai So then I can just easily predict a switch, I'm just trying to get swellow pinned in a corner where it can't do anything in the late game mazanyai
[20:07:21] StaraptorIsTheStar: i'm not running Roost FredMercury
[20:07:24] FredMercury: Yes i know
[20:07:26] FredMercury: so you get worn down
[20:07:27] MeowlinMe: Specs xatu
[20:07:27] FredMercury: and die
[20:07:29] MeowlinMe: sounds bad
[20:07:42] krookies: specs xatu is god like
[20:07:43] StaraNite: I don't want a grudge over a small disagreement, live and learn :D
[20:07:47] FredMercury: Blaziken1337 just for coverage
[20:07:51] +Blaziken1337: that just weakens your ability to both snag boosts and stay alive to set-up
[20:07:57] FredMercury: ^^
[20:07:59] mazanyai: StaraptorIsTheStar, mesprit has same coverage and can hit ahrder after boosts, your argument is invalid
[20:08:03] +Blaziken1337: that coverage isn't worth it
[20:08:15] FredMercury: Use mesprit if you aren't running roost
[20:08:33] krookies: run life orb three attacks tailwind
[20:08:36] mazanyai: no
[20:08:37] mazanyai: dont
[20:08:42] +Blaziken1337: alternatively you can just get +6 by utilizing reliable recovery and streamroll through whatever a +1 heat wave or whatever did anyways
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[20:08:58] +Blaziken1337: roost allows xatu to beat an obnoxious amount of things
[20:09:02] mazanyai: ^
[20:09:03] StaraptorIsTheStar: mazanyai, I never wanted to argue. this happens every day and none of y'all understand. I don't wanna argue with you guys anymore. I don't wanna be treated with disrespect, calling things I like bad
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[20:09:14] StaraNite: Giga is unreliable
[20:09:20] +Blaziken1337: and dropping roost loses so much of your utility and set-up potential
[20:09:21] FredMercury: StaraptorIsTheStar We understand
[20:09:24] krookies: ya'll r disrespectfull
[20:09:27] FredMercury: You're wrong though
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[20:09:40] krookies: u gotta respect the innovation
[20:09:41] StaraNite: It depends on the situation in the end
[20:09:46] StaraptorIsTheStar: idc how bad it is in your minds
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[20:09:49] FredMercury: No it doesn't
[20:09:51] StaraptorIsTheStar: in my mind
[20:09:53] mazanyai: nobody is being disrespectful, we're just proving things wrong
[20:09:56] StaraptorIsTheStar: it's great
[20:09:56] StaraNite: IF your up against a carracosta, giga is more handy
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[20:10:02] FredMercury: StaraNite
[20:10:04] StaraNite: Cause it lands damage as well
[20:10:06] FredMercury: you run Giga and Roost
[20:10:08] +Blaziken1337: ^
[20:10:08] FredMercury: ffs
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[20:10:14] krookies: I'm so high on sugar right now somebody smack me
[20:10:14] StaraptorIsTheStar: StaraNite, and Rhydon and Quag
[20:10:17] FredMercury: If you need to roost on magmortar
[20:10:21] mazanyai: if you aren't going to use roost on xatu and you run cm 3 attacks, you can just use mesprit and do it better
[20:10:21] FredMercury: you cant giga drain it
[20:10:29] krookies: SMACK ME!
[20:10:33] lelbruh: http://pastebin.com/C20XfU64
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[20:10:36] lelbruh: this is why
[20:10:37] StaraNite: But if your up against something like.... idk some poison type, obviously roost is better
[20:10:38] FredMercury: Or you need to roost on lilligant you cant giga drain that shit
[20:10:39] MARCU5theBAW5: what is even going on
[20:10:40] +Blaziken1337: if you need to recover on anything that isn't weak to giga drain
[20:10:45] krookies: lololol
[20:10:47] +Blaziken1337: in general
[20:10:48] lelbruh: cm+3 attacks id inefficient
[20:10:52] lelbruh: read the pastebin
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[20:10:58] lelbruh: it's too long to post in normal chat
[20:11:00] StaraptorIsTheStar: FredMercury, but THEN my point is is that after the boost or 2, it can hit it with Psyshock
[20:11:06] FredMercury: No you die
[20:11:10] +Blaziken1337: you aren't able to get enough recovery to stay alive
[20:11:10] mazanyai: StaraptorIsTheStar, so can mesprit
[20:11:11] mazanyai: lmao
[20:11:15] FredMercury: If you can't roost you die
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[20:11:26] StaraNite: Somebody pull up Xatu's data real quick
[20:11:29] FredMercury: Its a simple as that
[20:11:31] krookies: xatu is faster
[20:11:34] mazanyai: and xatu needs reliable recovery
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[20:11:35] krookies: 95 speed
[20:11:46] FredMercury: Mesprit is stronger
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[20:11:53] StaraNite: Isn't this thing pretty frail to begin with?
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[20:12:01] krookies: well yeah
[20:12:05] Pokemon Gamez: Hi silver
[20:12:19] MeowlinMe: Silver
[20:12:21] MeowlinMe: I am good
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[20:12:27] StaraptorIsTheStar: yo guys I really don't give a crap how crap it is. use your own things and I'll use mine, k?
[20:12:28] lelbruh: staraptoristhestar read this pastebin, it essentially sums up everything we've said so far http://pastebin.com/C20XfU64
[20:12:28] Pokemon Gamez: Where's silver
[20:12:33] +Blaziken1337: !dt xatu
NU
XatuPsychicFlyingSynchronize
Early BirdMagic BounceHP
65Atk
75Def
70SpA
95SpD
70Spe
95BST
470
Dex#: 178 |  Gen: 2 |  Height: 1.5 m |  Weight: 15 kg (40 BP) |  Dex Colour: Green |  Egg Group(s): Flying |  Does Not Evolve
[20:12:35] +Blaziken1337: !dt mesprit
NU
MespritPsychicLevitateHP
80Atk
105Def
105SpA
105SpD
105Spe
80BST
580
Dex#: 481 |  Gen: 4 |  Height: 0.3 m |  Weight: 0.3 kg (20 BP) |  Dex Colour: Pink |  Egg Group(s): Undiscovered |  Does Not Evolve
[20:12:36] krookies: Silver dies
[20:12:37] mazanyai: yeah, mesprit has much greater bulk which allows it to calm mind without desperately needsing recovery like xatu
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[20:12:44] lelbruh: rip blaze
[20:12:47] StaraNite: Mespirit is much better with lefties
[20:12:58] lelbruh: debatable
[20:13:05] lelbruh: it kinda needs colbur
[20:13:06] krookies: colbur all the way
[20:13:07] mazanyai: colbur is v helpful
[20:13:11] lelbruh: to check fighters
[20:13:13] lelbruh: with knock
[20:13:16] StaraptorIsTheStar: yo guys I really don't give a crap how crap it is. use your own things and I'll use mine, k?
[20:13:28] krookies: ok sounds good
[20:13:29] mazanyai: then stop trying to push bad stuff on us
[20:13:30] mazanyai: lmao
[20:13:35] lelbruh: we're just trying to make your teams more efficient
[20:13:36] FredMercury: If you aren't going to admit you're wrong don't talk about bad stuff in chat please
[20:13:40] lelbruh: but whatever
[20:13:40] FredMercury: We're trying to help you
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[20:13:50] lelbruh: DAMN
[20:13:54] krookies: why can't u people just drop it
[20:13:54] lelbruh: shoulda had logs on
[20:14:00] lelbruh: in downloaded ps
[20:14:02] lelbruh: rip
[20:14:14] StaraptorIsTheStar: mazanyai, I've use it and you haven't. it isn't bad in my eyes. I never fucking pushed it. I asked why it isn't on analysis\