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  1. [19:42:43 | Edited 19:43:08] Lutra: What do people prefer out of these options to decide the best RBYer of the year?:
  2.  
  3. 1. Indigo Champion [PP] vs RBY Cup Champion [Smogon 1] vs PO champion [PO] vs Smogon World Champion [Smogon 2]
  4.  
  5. 2. Indigo Champion [PP] vs (SPL top record vs WCoP top record vs RBY Cup Champion) [Smogon 1] vs (POCL top record vs POWC top record vs Supreme RBY OU champion) [PO] vs (RoAPL top record vs OUPL top record vs Roa Olympic Gold Medalist vs Smogon World Champ) [Smogon 2]
  6.  
  7. 3. Other, please comment.
  8. [19:53:59] Tim1236.: [19:42] Lutra:
  9.  
  10. <<< POWC top recordhow you will count it?
  11. [19:54:32] Lutra: During Summer 702
  12. [19:54:35] Tim1236.: why no seasons and tokasune winners?
  13. [19:54:37] Lutra: 7-2*
  14. [19:54:45] raymond: isa did u rly lose in another final
  15. [19:55:00] Lutra: Indigo Cup decided PP
  16. [19:55:21] Lutra: this is just for PO and Smogon
  17. [19:55:40] Lutra: the qualification in option 2
  18. [19:56:06] Tim1236.: powc for all years?
  19. [19:56:18] Lutra: no just this year
  20. [19:56:18] Tim1236.: or only for this
  21. [19:56:36] Tim1236.: I have 5-0 in rby and 0-1 in adv this year
  22. [19:56:52] Tim1236.: it will counts by wins or by difference?
  23. [19:56:55] Lutra: wins
  24. [19:56:59] Lutra: like they do
  25. [19:57:03] Lutra: in the spreadsheets
  26. [19:57:19] Tim1236.: not good btw
  27. [19:57:50] Tim1236.: some guys had low skill teams
  28. [19:58:08] Tim1236.: but in one tier they are very good
  29. [19:58:17] Tim1236.: like me or GG
  30. [19:58:32] Axel "Isa" Wik: [19:54] raymond:
  31.  
  32. <<< isa did u rly lose in another final
  33. [19:58:35] Axel "Isa" Wik: yes.
  34. [19:58:40] Axel "Isa" Wik: fucking cursed
  35. [19:59:53] Tim1236.: I think as more players must participate in tour as can
  36. [20:00:04 | Edited 20:00:23] Lutra: GG won the year before
  37. [20:00:06] Lutra: anyway
  38. [20:00:11] Lutra: powc*
  39. [20:00:26] George S. [Disaster Area]: IT'S HOT
  40. [20:00:30] Tim1236.: add some seasons winner+some guys who was in top 4 on other tours
  41. [20:00:44] George S. [Disaster Area]: ahh I was one of during summer's 2 ;)
  42. [20:00:44] raymond: u need to get over the mental block
  43. [20:00:45] raymond: isa
  44. [20:00:52] Tim1236.: like invitation on TI in dota 2
  45. [20:01:16] George S. [Disaster Area]: what final did
  46. [20:01:20] George S. [Disaster Area]: u lose Isa
  47. [20:01:21] George S. [Disaster Area]: RBY Cup?
  48. [20:01:22] George S. [Disaster Area]: ._.
  49. [20:01:26] Tim1236.: [20:00] George S. [Disaster Area]:
  50.  
  51. <<< ahh I was one of during summer's 2 ;)I was in mountains that week and allala lost to him
  52. [20:01:26] Lutra: marcoasd can't even get to finals :p
  53. [20:01:42] George S. [Disaster Area]: I couldn't even enter :P
  54. [20:01:54] Tim1236.: so, I choose 3
  55. [20:02:08] George S. [Disaster Area]: but I helped a player or two. I helped texas with metalgross/isa a bit btw (like gave them one team and went over their teams and gave a couple of quick playtests)
  56. [20:02:16] Tim1236.: a lot of winner+invitations of top players
  57. [20:02:27] Tim1236.: *winners
  58. [20:02:43] David: fucking galbia and his luck
  59. [20:02:44] David: :(
  60. [20:03:14] George S. [Disaster Area]: LOL let's get marco in on that
  61. [20:03:20] George S. [Disaster Area]: well I put galbia at #2
  62. [20:03:26] George S. [Disaster Area]: I guess I forgot the Isa curse
  63. [20:03:29] George S. [Disaster Area]: when I predicted it
  64. [20:03:54] asd devasd: [20:00] raymond:
  65.  
  66. <<< u need to get over the mental block
  67. isawell, you gotta see the performance before saying something like that
  68. [20:04:28] asd devasd: marcoasd can't even get to finals :Pgot haxed just before the time you need to rage about it lol
  69. [20:05:03] David: come on marco you still havent got to semifinals of any smogon RBY tournament
  70. [20:05:03] David: :o
  71. [20:05:04] asd devasd: galbia improved during the tour, at least
  72. [20:05:20] David: he did improve
  73. [20:05:26] asd devasd: you won't lol
  74. [20:05:38] asd devasd: only thing you improved is that you finally hit with some good humor
  75. [20:05:42] asd devasd: on locopke!
  76. [20:05:46] David: lol
  77. [20:06:10] Axel "Isa" Wik: [20:00] raymond:
  78.  
  79. <<< u need to get over the mental block
  80. [20:06:12] George S. [Disaster Area]: anyway imo
  81. [20:06:13] Axel "Isa" Wik: in order:
  82. [20:06:17] George S. [Disaster Area]: galbia had by far the hardest run
  83. [20:06:18] George S. [Disaster Area]: to the finals
  84. [20:06:19] Axel "Isa" Wik: my first POCL was a legit loss
  85. [20:06:20] George S. [Disaster Area]: of you three
  86. [20:06:23] Axel "Isa" Wik: lutra outplayed me
  87. [20:06:36] asd devasd: well, if some other famous player would have played that g1 that galbia played vs hack
  88. [20:06:36] Axel "Isa" Wik: POWC i got a bit unlucky but it was a fair game
  89. [20:06:41] asd devasd: he would be considered a legend
  90. [20:06:46] asd devasd: but it's galbia
  91. [20:06:47] George S. [Disaster Area]: marco do u have the log?
  92. [20:06:48] Axel "Isa" Wik: second POCL i got brutally murdered by hax
  93. [20:06:52] David: lol no
  94. [20:06:58] David: someone is considered a legend
  95. [20:06:59] Axel "Isa" Wik: and this finals
  96. [20:07:01] Axel "Isa" Wik: was just
  97. [20:07:02] David: because he is consistent
  98. [20:07:02] Axel "Isa" Wik: rip
  99. [20:07:04] David: not because a game
  100. [20:07:08] David: or a good year
  101. [20:07:10] asd devasd: ofc
  102. [20:07:17] asd devasd: but that game was really that epic
  103. [20:07:31] George S. [Disaster Area]: marco can u
  104. [20:07:32] asd devasd: well, he's not spanish, so nvm
  105. [20:07:33] George S. [Disaster Area]: pass me a log?
  106. [20:07:35] asd devasd: looooooool
  107. [20:07:55] David: who cares if he is spanish or not
  108. [20:07:56] David: xD
  109. [20:08:11] Tim1236.: Indigo Cup winner+SPL top+WCOP tops(1 or 2)+RBY OU Cup winner+RBY UBERS cup winner+POCL tops(1 or 2)+POWC tops+Supreme RBY OU winner+ROA winner+OUPL tops+ROA Olympic winner+Smogon world champ+Tokasune cup winner(1-2)+Ultra league winners+Saffron Cup winner+Vermillion cup winner+season 5 and 6 winners
  110. [20:08:20] Tim1236.: near 16 players cup
  111. [20:08:22] asd devasd: http://smogtours.psim.us/battle-gen1ou-71589
  112. [20:08:28] Tim1236.: that good I think
  113. [20:08:42] David: who won what
  114. [20:08:43] David: @ tim
  115. [20:08:44 | Edited 20:08:55] George S. [Disaster Area]: well, he's not spanish, so nvm[20:07] David:
  116.  
  117. <<< who cares if he is spanish or not
  118. xDit's ok u don't care if they're Spanish or not if they've played the game for a very long time
  119. [20:08:59] Tim1236.: [20:08] Tim1236.:
  120.  
  121. <<< Ultra league winnersspecial for Piex
  122. [20:08:59] asd devasd: ^ LOLKEK
  123. [20:09:15] George S. [Disaster Area]: altho that being said they needed to be
  124. [20:09:19] asd devasd: mdragon fetish
  125. [20:09:21] George S. [Disaster Area]: active in the community or something in a long time too
  126. [20:09:23] Tim1236.: [20:08] David:
  127.  
  128. <<< who won what
  129. @ timidk who won smogon tour =\
  130. [20:09:25] George S. [Disaster Area]: so even tho froggy25's been playing
  131. [20:09:27] George S. [Disaster Area]: as long as ggfan
  132. [20:09:30] Tim1236.: *tours
  133. [20:09:36] Lutra: thank you for the suggestion Tim, but it looks very complicated :(
  134. [20:09:39] George S. [Disaster Area]: u don't have a fetish for him because he's not been doing it in a way that's visible to you
  135. [20:10:40] David: [20:09] George S. [Disaster Area]:
  136.  
  137. <<< active in the community or something in a long time too
  138. [20:10:42] David: nah
  139. [20:10:45] David: look at crystal_
  140. [20:10:52] David: he was the best at 2010-2013
  141. [20:10:54] David: in RBY
  142. [20:11:01] David: and he started in like 2008?
  143. [20:11:02] George S. [Disaster Area]: yah no one was really around then tho
  144. [20:11:08] asd devasd: he's spanish
  145. [20:11:09] David: thats false
  146. [20:11:09] asd devasd: XD
  147. [20:11:11] George S. [Disaster Area]: or at least very few and those who are
  148. [20:11:15] George S. [Disaster Area]: oh yeah
  149. [20:11:16] David: so what
  150. [20:11:17] George S. [Disaster Area]: he's spanish
  151. [20:11:19] George S. [Disaster Area]: that explains it
  152. [20:11:19] George S. [Disaster Area]: !
  153. [20:11:22] David: you also overrate italian players
  154. [20:11:22] asd devasd: invalid proposition
  155. [20:11:24] David: like galbia
  156. [20:11:24] David: xD
  157. [20:11:41] George S. [Disaster Area]: well they beat smilzo and I've battled smilzo a few times and they're solid
  158. [20:11:50] Lutra: Disaster Area is a god at RBY, trust me
  159. [20:12:08] asd devasd: lol truth is that the average italian rbyer can smack your beloved untouchable gods
  160. [20:12:12] Tim1236.: [20:11] Lutra:
  161.  
  162. <<< Disaster Area is a god at RBYunreal gimmick lord
  163. [20:12:16] Axel "Isa" Wik: lol
  164. [20:12:21] David: see how you overrate them
  165. [20:12:22] David: xd
  166. [20:12:30] asd devasd: VIL, great god etc
  167. [20:12:33] Axel "Isa" Wik: everyone has regional biases
  168. [20:12:39] Axel "Isa" Wik: as evidenced in the past two minutes
  169. [20:12:41] asd devasd: c'mon he'w great at adv and other tiers
  170. [20:12:46] asd devasd: same with others
  171. [20:12:51] David: VIL destroyed your ADV player
  172. [20:12:52] David: in wcop
  173. [20:12:53] David: lol!
  174. [20:13:05] asd devasd: told you he can play adv
  175. [20:13:06] David: as i did
  176. [20:13:10] George S. [Disaster Area]: Disaster Area is a god at RBY, trust me
  177. [20:13:11] George S. [Disaster Area]: ?
  178. [20:13:17] asd devasd: don't tell me he is a rby legend overlord god supercazzolungo
  179. [20:13:27] George S. [Disaster Area]: supercazzolungo?
  180. [20:13:28] David: he is the most annoying player to face
  181. [20:13:30] George S. [Disaster Area]: explain that in private?
  182. [20:13:32] David: in my opinion
  183. [20:13:35] David: in rby
  184. [20:13:40] George S. [Disaster Area]: hey no I am more annoying when I want to be
  185. [20:13:41] David: but thats subjective
  186. [20:13:42] asd devasd: cazzo lungo= long/huge cock
  187. [20:13:43] George S. [Disaster Area]: :D
  188. [20:13:45] David: @ vil
  189. [20:13:49] George S. [Disaster Area]: lmfao
  190. [20:14:07] asd devasd: playboy etc
  191. [20:14:32] asd devasd: also, i would've liked to see alexander in this tour
  192. [20:14:38] George S. [Disaster Area]: so would I
  193. [20:14:40] George S. [Disaster Area]: he's good
  194. [20:14:47] David: he god banned
  195. [20:14:48] asd devasd: raping some fake legend
  196. [20:14:51] David: because cheating
  197. [20:15:04] asd devasd: lol he learned rby in a... couple? weeks
  198. [20:15:20] David: not hard to do
  199. [20:15:24] George S. [Disaster Area]: did he come about as close as the rest of us to
  200. [20:15:26] asd devasd: seh vabbè dai
  201. [20:15:27] George S. [Disaster Area]: mastering it
  202. [20:15:29] asd devasd: bravo te
  203. [20:15:29] George S. [Disaster Area]: as we have
  204. [20:15:31] George S. [Disaster Area]: in that time?
  205. [20:15:41 | Edited 20:15:44] David: rby is the easiest gen to learn
  206. [20:15:47] asd devasd: lol
  207. [20:15:58] asd devasd: this shows you don't play it to an high level
  208. [20:16:02] David: i do
  209. [20:16:06] David: i said
  210. [20:16:07] David: LEARN
  211. [20:16:08] George S. [Disaster Area]: that's true but that's sort of a semi-truth
  212. [20:16:12] asd devasd: just click the obvious button lol
  213. [20:16:22] George S. [Disaster Area]: to do it at a basic enough level that you can have a chance versus nearly anyone
  214. [20:16:31] George S. [Disaster Area]: u can take a couple of days
  215. [20:16:37] David: rby is the easiest to learn
  216. [20:16:38] asd devasd: well, when i say he learned, it means he really learned how to play iy
  217. [20:16:40] David: but its hard to master
  218. [20:16:46] George S. [Disaster Area]: so u mean marco that he's
  219. [20:16:49] George S. [Disaster Area]: mastered it nearly as well
  220. [20:16:49] asd devasd: ok
  221. [20:16:51] George S. [Disaster Area]: as the rest of us
  222. [20:16:53] George S. [Disaster Area]: more or less have
  223. [20:16:55] asd devasd: he mastered it in a couple weeks
  224. [20:16:56] asd devasd: my bad
  225. [20:16:58] George S. [Disaster Area]: in some vague sense
  226. [20:17:08] David: i doubt it
  227. [20:17:11] asd devasd: lol
  228. [20:17:14] George S. [Disaster Area]: Nonon
  229. [20:17:15] George S. [Disaster Area]: Is
  230. [20:17:17] George S. [Disaster Area]: real
  231. [20:17:18] asd devasd: REAL
  232. [20:17:19] George S. [Disaster Area]: y/y
  233. [20:17:22] George S. [Disaster Area]: REAL
  234. [20:18:02] asd devasd: also troller hiding from smogon
  235. [20:18:12] asd devasd: the fear for swears
  236. [20:18:17] asd devasd: + doesn't give a fuck
  237. [20:18:33] George S. [Disaster Area]: lol I've heard u talk about troller
  238. [20:18:39] George S. [Disaster Area]: I would love to hear what troller would
  239. [20:18:40] George S. [Disaster Area]: have to say to aldaron
  240. [20:18:42] George S. [Disaster Area]: xD
  241. [20:18:48] asd devasd: lol he had a couple moves for isa
  242. [20:18:48] George S. [Disaster Area]: as soon as aldaron does
  243. [20:18:50] George S. [Disaster Area]: anything out of line
  244. [20:19:21] asd devasd: and me too ofc, 1st chance freezes and snorlax crits all day
  245. [20:31:17] George S. [Disaster Area]: imo alexander is master, marcoasd is masterbaiter y/y ;) ;) ;)
  246. [20:31:19] *** George S. [Disaster Area] r00d ***
  247. [20:32:36] George S. [Disaster Area]: [20:11] Lutra:
  248.  
  249. <<< Disaster Area is a god at RBYunreal gimmick lord
  250. [20:32:51] George S. [Disaster Area]: I am confused as to who was being serious/not serious here xD
  251. [20:33:54] Lutra: it was a joke, cuz of mentioning italian/spanish bias from marco/m dragon
  252. [20:34:23] George S. [Disaster Area]: lol it was a very confusing joke xD
  253. [20:34:27] asd devasd: italian bias
  254. [20:34:29] asd devasd: COME ON MAN
  255. [20:34:32] asd devasd: MEN*
  256. [20:34:37] David: are u dumb
  257. [20:34:46] asd devasd: i'm the most anti-italian guy around this web
  258. [20:34:54] asd devasd: for irl stuff
  259. [20:34:59] David: its obv u have an italian bias
  260. [20:35:07] asd devasd: if i say those guys are good, it means they're good
  261. [20:35:25] David: ps: theyre not
  262. [20:35:37] asd devasd: well, this rby cup has been infested with italian guys
  263. [20:35:39] David: that giid
  264. [20:35:49] asd devasd: that is a fact
  265. [20:35:50] David: yeah there has been
  266. [20:35:53] David: galbia
  267. [20:35:54] David: and...
  268. [20:35:55] David: galbia?
  269. [20:35:58] George S. [Disaster Area]: smilzo
  270. [20:36:00] George S. [Disaster Area]: the quasar
  271. [20:36:00] asd devasd: you don't know them
  272. [20:36:05] asd devasd: tricking the quasar
  273. [20:36:08] George S. [Disaster Area]: yeh tricking too
  274. [20:36:12] asd devasd: and others who didn't last as long
  275. [20:36:18] David: dont see them in finals
  276. [20:36:19] David: srry
  277. [20:36:24] asd devasd: you have guys like during summer, me, the joker, bomber, bekins
  278. [20:36:38] asd devasd: troller and alexander didn't even play, nor did bomber
  279. [20:36:47] Lutra: yeah the italians took over rby from the spanish
  280. [20:36:58] David: :(
  281. [20:37:06] asd devasd: well, if you don't look at their performances... that's your bad
  282. [20:37:06] George S. [Disaster Area]: david well 1/3 of the finalists
  283. [20:37:07] George S. [Disaster Area]: are italian
  284. [20:37:23] asd devasd: i always talk about performances
  285. [20:37:27] David: still far from dominating
  286. [20:37:37] David: what about your own performance
  287. [20:37:39] George S. [Disaster Area]: I like the Spanish players in the finals
  288. [20:37:41] asd devasd: but oh well, i'm 14-1 in games in oupl and you didn't even notice loool
  289. [20:37:46] David: losing to someone that has 0 idea of RBY
  290. [20:37:49] George S. [Disaster Area]: marco got haxed by a Spanish player remember m dragon?
  291. [20:38:05] David: oupl?¿
  292. [20:38:08] David: whats that
  293. [20:38:08] David: LOL
  294. [20:38:12] George S. [Disaster Area]: LOL u don't even know,,
  295. [20:38:17] George S. [Disaster Area]: OU premier league
  296. [20:38:22] George S. [Disaster Area]: OU's own one like all
  297. [20:38:23] George S. [Disaster Area]: the tiers do
  298. [20:38:25] David: lol
  299. [20:38:28] George S. [Disaster Area]: how do u even not know about this
  300. [20:38:32] George S. [Disaster Area]: ur on the fucking
  301. [20:38:35] George S. [Disaster Area]: OU council lmao
  302. [20:38:39] asd devasd: lol smogon admin etc
  303. [20:38:43] asd devasd: doesn't know about this
  304. [20:38:45] asd devasd: XD
  305. [20:38:55] David: idc about those small tournaments
  306. [20:39:10] asd devasd: well, it was supposed to be decently big
  307. [20:39:17] asd devasd: it kinda flopped
  308. [20:39:19] George S. [Disaster Area]: yeah small only 80 players or so
  309. [20:39:24] asd devasd: but i had 15 rby games nonetheless
  310. [20:39:38] George S. [Disaster Area]: who did u lose the one game to?
  311. [20:39:46] asd devasd: ortheore
  312. [20:39:57] George S. [Disaster Area]: rip
  313. [20:40:01] George S. [Disaster Area]: hax or outplayed?
  314. [20:40:05] George S. [Disaster Area]: or mix?
  315. [20:40:06] David: xD
  316. [20:40:09] asd devasd: well... let's start with this
  317. [20:40:15] asd devasd: i used restlax all three games
  318. [20:40:24] asd devasd: got critted/frozen all the time
  319. [20:40:29] asd devasd: won through his restlax
  320. [20:40:38] David: why are you surprised
  321. [20:40:39] asd devasd: but he played well
  322. [20:40:42] David: thats the problem
  323. [20:40:45] David: of rest lax
  324. [20:40:53] asd devasd: i know, isa is the fanboy
  325. [20:41:01] asd devasd: it depends on rng
  326. [20:41:17] asd devasd: but it can become a nightmare pretty quickly
  327. [20:41:31] asd devasd: main reason to use restlax, is to stall your opponents
  328. [20:41:40] asd devasd: welcome to 100+turn games
  329. [20:42:03] George S. [Disaster Area]: I've never been stalled by a restlax
  330. [20:42:11] asd devasd: restlax vs restlax
  331. [20:43:06] George S. [Disaster Area]: o cos I p much
  332. [20:43:11] George S. [Disaster Area]: never use restlax these days
  333. [20:43:17] George S. [Disaster Area]: guess it's never happened to me xD
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