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  1. it's okay. poe doesn't play well on linux and i got sleepy so i logged
  2. siz
  3. :
  4. Hello
  5. 無念無想
  6. :
  7. hello
  8. siz
  9. :
  10. I took some tramadol a few days ago to help me sleep and it made me throw up a bunch a couple days ago
  11. I'm not sick but I still have a sore throat from throwing up
  12. 無念無想
  13. :
  14. i don't know what that particular drug does
  15. siz
  16. :
  17. It's an opioid
  18. 無念無想
  19. :
  20. it's to make you sleep and for pain?
  21. siz
  22. :
  23. Yeah
  24. Instead I woke up at 4 am and just kept nodding off
  25. And waking back u0
  26. Up
  27. 無念無想
  28. :
  29. did a doctorgive it or it's off the street
  30. siz
  31. :
  32. My dad bought it in mexico at an airport
  33. Apparently you can be opioids in mexico on the shelf
  34. buy*
  35. 無念無想
  36. :
  37. i don't know what to say. i definitely wouldn't take drugs from mexico bought at an airport though
  38. siz
  39. :
  40. Yeah I only took it once never again
  41. I have As in all four if my classes and the semester ends next week
  42. Then I'll have one more semester which is my emt course alone and ill be certified
  43. Of*
  44. So I should be certified around april
  45. 無念無想
  46. :
  47. do you get any on job experiene?
  48. like the ocurse sends you somewhere after
  49. siz
  50. :
  51. Oh yeah
  52. 3 shifts I have to complete
  53. 12 hours, 3 shifts
  54. Clinicals for a local hospital
  55. I think it has be 1 hospital shift and 1 ambulance shift then the third can be either
  56. I spent too much money on Christmas
  57. 無念無想
  58. :
  59. it's good you get work experience with the course
  60. do they also set you up somewhere to work or it's just the experience
  61. siz
  62. :
  63. Oh like after the course?
  64. 無念無想
  65. :
  66. yeah
  67. siz
  68. :
  69. No but lots of emt agencies hire no experience for inter facility transfer which is just non-911 transports
  70. Like working as a local agency and picking up old people to transfer back and forth from different hospitals
  71. And there are some agencies like AMR which are 911 response agencies that also hire no experience you just gotta get lucky
  72. Most work interfacility before 911
  73. But amr is probably your best bet if you wanna skip interfacility
  74. 無念無想
  75. :
  76. that's cool. it's nice to have a followup. like people are getting degrees in black dance study and then they work at burgerking
  77. siz
  78. :
  79. yeah how many starbucks baritas have some sort of 2 year or 4 year degree
  80. do you think richard spencer is smart or just a tard
  81. 無念無想
  82. :
  83. sorry for the slow replies. i was in a match getting wrecked
  84. siz
  85. :
  86. no worries
  87. 無念無想
  88. :
  89. he's that alt-right guy correct?
  90. siz
  91. :
  92. he had an interesting tweet chain about confirm kavanaugh
  93. yeah
  94. 無念無想
  95. :
  96. like the one who claims he invented the name
  97. i don't think he's retarded because he's getting money going around bullshitting
  98. what he says is garbage though
  99. siz
  100. :
  101. what about his ideas
  102. 無念無想
  103. :
  104. give me a second
  105. siz
  106. :
  107. also what's so wrong with someone pretending to be the leader of the alt right. doesnt it give the movement a head and more exposure even if he is just doing it for money
  108. 無念無想
  109. :
  110. okay now i can type
  111. his ideas are garbage
  112. siz
  113. :
  114. https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/1048602326196506624?s=19
  115. 無念無想
  116. :
  117. only william pierce had interesting ideas and a lot of knowledge. other people are absolute shit. especially white nationalist types
  118. siz
  119. :
  120. wouldn't you want an only white nation too though
  121. 無念無想
  122. :
  123. they don't get how the world works and work on an inverted basis of who is the winner and loser
  124. it's not that
  125. the problem is the foundation of the ideas
  126. siz
  127. :
  128. Israel has their safe space why cant whites
  129. 無念無想
  130. :
  131. it's the way the world has shaped and how people view it
  132. i told you how william pierce is good but i didn't really explain why he's wrong about stuff too
  133. you know how thoughtout history all the nobles, kings, and yadayada kill each other? like the son kill the father
  134. the wife kills the brother
  135. etc
  136. siz
  137. :
  138. yeah
  139. I actually showed my grandma that William pierce video you showed me and she liked it
  140. 無念無想
  141. :
  142. the people at the top of the world don't have loyalty to their own blood as in father, mother, or anybody else
  143. how the hell can they have loyalty towards random pieces of shit they will send off to die in wars like their life is worth grass?
  144. rulers don't send off all the peasants to go die in meat grinding wars because they value their life or their future. they do it because it benefits them
  145. the royals organize stuff for their own benefit
  146. white nationalism works in in a space vacuum or in theory because
  147. tribalism works.
  148. you get together with similar people and work towards something that helps you all
  149. like your last name is williams so you get together with others williams. you're a clan or a big family and look out for each other
  150. it's just scaled higher
  151. you can scale it towards anything however big or small, but what is important isn't the scale. it's who is benefiting and how much they are
  152. tribalism works when it helps, but it's opportunistic. that means when others don't benefit they will drop it very quickly
  153. everything william pierce said on race and jews is correct, but whites will only organize when they're in a minority or lower position of power. if they're at the top they won't care if they can watch tv, eat food, and hump like animals
  154. siz
  155. :
  156. Yeah but how would an all white country not be beneficial with no one leeching off society
  157. 無念無想
  158. :
  159. you can tell others they will benefit from organizing as "whites" but there's a lot of history which counters it. as in cultural history and ideology based in chrisitanity
  160. christianity says god created everybody and they're his children
  161. you're just a soul in a flesh body that will go to heaven
  162. if that's the case why do you need to organize as whites or brown or whatever?
  163. this is why it's a joke for conservatives to become nazi or whatever
  164. siz
  165. :
  166. it will make this life easier, even if you go to heaven after
  167. why wouldn't you want current life to be easier regardless of promises in the future
  168. 無念無想
  169. :
  170. it won't though becuase even if you lie and twist it into a knot the fact is god and the basis of christianity is about equality
  171. you don't go cast them off and make them live worse somehow
  172. christianity is the biggest reason why all the shit happened in the first place
  173. that's why /pol/tards talking about deus vault and shit are the biggest incel mongoloids arounds
  174. if your back is against the wall and you're in a tough spot then you'll disregard all the notions about equality
  175. like who really cares about that shit if you're the one dying or disadvantages? that's why christianity can spread by the sword but now it's in a dominate positon they play pacifist
  176. it's also why the west won't have anything happen until it's reduced to mass starving and other really bad stuff
  177. as long as people can pretend they're good and their belly is full of food they don't give a shit
  178. they will just eat some pills and watch tv
  179. siz
  180. :
  181. Do you like isaac newton
  182. 無念無想
  183. :
  184. this goes into william pierce idea about lemmings
  185. siz
  186. :
  187. He said 2060 is when the apocalypse
  188. will happen
  189. 無念無想
  190. :
  191. nothing like that will happen
  192. everybody wants to be at the end times of their era to feel special
  193. doomsday stuff is a waste of time
  194. siz
  195. :
  196. Do you dislike all the right figures like richard
  197. Alex Jones, milo, etc
  198. 無念無想
  199. :
  200. the more rich, intelligent, and succcessful people are the less they want to die. this is why they send others off to wars and don't fight themselves
  201. siz
  202. :
  203. Pjw
  204. 無念無想
  205. :
  206. i don't follow personalities. i just and look at what they say and judge where they're at
  207. you can measure a man but you can use that measurement to measure the world
  208. siz
  209. :
  210. I like infowars
  211. 無念無想
  212. :
  213. when you examine what people are saying and believe it isn't how the world is it's how they see it
  214. i listened to alexjones and saw a lot of his stuff
  215. when you understand something you don't need to reread it or follow it anymore
  216. if that makes sense?
  217. i'm talking from a positon of having read and see what they say so i disregard it
  218. siz
  219. :
  220. Do you think a lot of his theories are bullshit
  221. I know he probably just does stuff for attention and for marketing but that doesnt really bother me
  222. It gets people mad and that's good enough of a reason for me to support him
  223. 無念無想
  224. :
  225. yes. the world isn't like how he describes it.
  226. so to me it is bullshit
  227. specifically where though it's difficult to say cause my view of the world is entirely different from stuff you see in politics
  228. siz
  229. :
  230. What's your view then
  231. 無念無想
  232. :
  233. you can be fluent in a language like chinese or japanese with 5k hours of real practice
  234. is the world more or less complex than a language?
  235. like even if i say something really meaningful in either language unless you know it then it's just senseless
  236. any sentence you can derive as many means as you can. that means you're the limit in the situation and your understanding of the sentence is the limit
  237. it's why i say you just need experience
  238. siz
  239. :
  240. it's kinda like with songs most artists hate saying what the meaning is and let others grab different meanings from it?
  241. 無念無想
  242. :
  243. like i don't dislike jews. i think blacks are inferior culturally and etc. i don't really care about any of that though. it doesn't matter when you're really looking down at stuff
  244. it's my attitude towards the world that's most important
  245. siz
  246. :
  247. what's your attitude
  248. 無念無想
  249. :
  250. like if you become a bitter incel who hates everything and has 80 iq unable to even do simple logical sequence then who is harmed?
  251. you are
  252. random hatred towards shit doesn't help you. you want to weigh the world and measure stuff to judge how reality is but frustration is because you're doing it wrong
  253. i understand you people need to vent because they got fooled by feminism and all sorts of wacko ideas floating around but you need an attitude that moves past that quickly
  254. you need to focus on things that help you
  255. it ties into how people don't understand that winners aren't just lucky
  256. whether it's right or left both sides have this demented view that it's all luck or it doesn't count
  257. no it does count. it's not luck. the winner won for certain reason and you need to understand them
  258. siz
  259. :
  260. Sometimes I get really bothered by really small shit cause I cant just let things be how they are
  261. I get really upset if someone "below" me pisses me off like if a spic with blaring loud music cuts me off
  262. While driving
  263. It's different if someone just cuts me off I can usually let it go but if it's some retard nigger with a piece of shit car loud music and other things
  264. Stuff like that
  265. Also if someone is being confrontational to me I would treat them worse based on their appearance or racr
  266. Race*
  267. 無念無想
  268. :
  269. if you want to change anything in this world you need the power to do it. you can only get that power by winning and you can only win when you're grounded in reality. blind hatred and shit helps you because you want to create a line dividing yourself from others and then try to form a coherent view but you need to understand that it's just a strategy
  270. siz
  271. :
  272. If some spic or minority treats me poorly or confronts me I get really mad because I see it as like uhhhh you're literally a spic in America
  273. Like you dont have any room to complain about anything
  274. And Its hard for me to drop it
  275. 無念無想
  276. :
  277. niggers are savage. they got lower iq, shit culture, and only a tiny minority can do anything of value. how does that help you though? there's monkeys in the jungle. you can say they ruin your aesthetics, but instead of being around poor people and niggers you should strive to make money and live in a gated community
  278. siz
  279. :
  280. For example I was at the mall with my bf
  281. He dropped his phone I picked it up some security guard came running to me asking me to give it to him
  282. And I'm like no this is mine
  283. And hes asking for proof or to give it
  284. And I said wow nice you're a security guard that gets paid 12 dollars a hour that's impressive
  285. mostly because hes a spic
  286. and then I called the phone with my phone and said wow look at that
  287. and he said dont like it leave
  288. and I said shut the fuck up then left
  289. The thing is where I live is actually really nice and expensive. The problem is that it's so nice niggers and spics from other cities drive here because it's so nice
  290. just to be here for the day or night
  291. 無念無想
  292. :
  293. it's true niggers and spics will go to rich areas, but there's places where they can't step
  294. siz
  295. :
  296. Then there was some white fat ass at a park at night that told me I'm being suspicious because my bf and I parked there and walked off
  297. And I was like
  298. Uh
  299. 無念無想
  300. :
  301. even if it becomes terrible what happens is like in south america where you live in places with military outside sitting in tanks
  302. siz
  303. :
  304. I'm being suspicious because I parked in public parking and because I want to chill at a park at night?
  305. I got really mad he would even confront me because of that
  306. So when we were leaving I got in my car and told him off
  307. And slammed my horn in his face
  308. For like 20 seconds etc
  309. 無念無想
  310. :
  311. lol
  312. siz
  313. :
  314. I hate retards that just cant mind their own business it really gets to me
  315. Like wow you see two teens at a park together? Better tell them off and accuse them of being suspicious because you're such an up right moral person
  316. Like fuck you I'm suspicious? You're a fat loser with no life and I'm actually in school to save fat fucks like yourself
  317. Its fucking public space leave me alone what is everyone's problem with wanting to confront others or wanting to virtue signal and pretend they're a good person
  318. 無念無想
  319. :
  320. getting into arguments and being confrontational is pretty fun
  321. a lot of people like to do it. they just like to go do random shit to annoy others and pick fights
  322. siz
  323. :
  324. I'm never confrontational to others or rude to others but when someone is either to me I cant drop it
  325. I want to start working out so I can start protecting myself
  326. I'm pretty skinny so right now I cant really punch someone in the face if they're confronting me
  327. 無念無想
  328. :
  329. you know shitposting and trolling? people do it in real life. it isn't like lolsorandumb/meme but instead just doing stuff towards others to piss them off
  330. siz
  331. :
  332. I dont know if they do it for fun I think they do it because they actually think they're superior to others and that's what gets me mad
  333. 無念無想
  334. :
  335. i like to argue and fight so it's difficult for me to just ignore it too. the thing is though if you're angry and feeling bad then you're harming yourself. even if you make other random worthless people feel bad their life and time is worth way less than yours
  336. siz
  337. :
  338. Yeah that's why I need to get big. If I can just sock someone in the face when they bother me and leave in a rush I would feel a lot better about these situations because then I would know not only did I win but I know they wont dare confront other people for no reason again
  339. 無念無想
  340. :
  341. it's difficult to imagine this. you value your time and yourself, but others don't do that. you apply your standard on them and use that as how you're measuring it
  342. siz
  343. :
  344. Obviously it would only be in private locations etc
  345. 無念無想
  346. :
  347. you see them as humans so you want to respond and argue or say something to tell them to piss off, right?
  348. siz
  349. :
  350. Yea
  351. 無念無想
  352. :
  353. they're not like that though. it's more like getting angry at a rock
  354. siz
  355. :
  356. Why wouldn't they get angry? I'm actually really good at getting people mad or finding their biggest insecurity
  357. 無念無想
  358. :
  359. the npc meme that has been going around isn't accurate in what it says, but this whole npc/zombie shit is actually true
  360. i mean you're getting angry at a rock
  361. they're the rock
  362. making them feel bad doesn't change anything because they're already so low in life
  363. siz
  364. :
  365. I dunno I guess I just want to put people in their place
  366. 無念無想
  367. :
  368. when they look in the mirror and remember their own life they do it themselves
  369. even with that said though
  370. life is the experience you have
  371. so people want to get angry, laugh, cry, love, hate, and have all sorts of really vivid emotions and experience
  372. even if that guy was a piece of shit it's more about just feeling anger because it's pleasant
  373. siz
  374. :
  375. I really want a gun so I can flash it to people that get me mad
  376. 無念無想
  377. :
  378. that's a good way to get a felony and jailed
  379. siz
  380. :
  381. I mean I would be smart about it though
  382. 無念無想
  383. :
  384. if you bring it out you're suppose to use it
  385. siz
  386. :
  387. I could get a concealed weapon carry
  388. 無念無想
  389. :
  390. if not then it's just a threat in most places
  391. siz
  392. :
  393. Lift up my shirt and point to it
  394. Wonder if you're right and I actually just like to get mad at tards and no matter what I do ill always be the same
  395. 無念無想
  396. :
  397. you know what power fantasy is? the turner diaries is basically it
  398. there's an idea called will to power
  399. more or less anything who arrives in a very high point in life understands it in some form or another
  400. siz
  401. :
  402. do you think giving that book to my grandma to read for xmas would be a bit extreme
  403. 無念無想
  404. :
  405. nah probably not
  406. she's old so it's better to not get her angry
  407. at that point in her life she can't change much whether it's her view of the world or what happening
  408. siz
  409. :
  410. she literally told me "hitler was right on some things"
  411. lol
  412. she used to be the mayor a long time ago actually before I was born
  413. 無念無想
  414. :
  415. yeah but the thing with these ideas isn't that they're wrong but you need to view it from a certain angle otherwise you just get upset
  416. you want to do things help and make you happy or better
  417. siz
  418. :
  419. how do you view it
  420. 無念無想
  421. :
  422. you viewing this stuff is because you want to explore how the world is and create your own foundation of reality
  423. you can still change it and benefit from it
  424. an old lady is towards the end of her life and she won't inspire some grand feeling that improve her life
  425. i cut off from will to power but i wanted to finish that
  426. it's basically the idea that everything strives for power and to further themselves
  427. seems really simple and obvious but there's a lot of stuff that could be written on it. there's lots of books about it attacking it from different angles
  428. the point of what i'm saying is you want to flash the gun and feel in control of the situation
  429. you feel alive and great when you're in that kind of positon lording over others
  430. siz
  431. :
  432. hehe
  433. 無念無想
  434. :
  435. will to power in the western sense is incomplete though because it can be inverted
  436. so even if you're a masochist/feminine it still applies. it isn't just masculinity it's a lot of conceptional stuff that works in every possible sense
  437. what was i getting at? i forgot. i just wanted to say while lording over others with a gun like that will feel good it's just short term. you can get better feels than that other ways
  438. siz
  439. :
  440. Like what other ways? Actually accomplishing things you're proud of?
  441. 無念無想
  442. :
  443. yes
  444. the idea of power is really vast
  445. even if you're feminine and a masochist you can still gain power over others being submissive
  446. siz
  447. :
  448. I guess being an emt even if it's an entry level job gives you a lot of power. You can either save someone or not
  449. 無念無想
  450. :
  451. like women in society aren't dominant whether it's intelligence or anything else but they can reach for the stars use sex and manipulating men
  452. there's really cutthroat and intelligent women though. their intelligence is just different
  453. men are still better though
  454. power isn't just exercise over other people either
  455. power over yourself is the most difficult to achieve and control
  456. you point a gun at somebody and tell them to suck your dick or die, but how easily can you control your habits? your likes or dislikes? it's all stemming from your but that's the most difficult to control
  457. it comes down to the attitude to want to cultivate in life. lording over others or yourself
  458. it's too easy to be ruthless towards others. doing it towards yourself takes real courage though
  459. especially when you're aware of all the consequence and what's involved
  460. if you don't know you're going to die you can easily jump in front of a train. can you jump in front of a train while you enjoy life and just want to try your ideas?
  461. damn, i wrote a lot. you asked what my attitude towards life is and just explaining some of this shows it
  462. siz
  463. :
  464. Hmm so controlling yourself is the most important to you
  465. 無念無想
  466. :
  467. people like alexjones and these others people are like clowns in my view. they don't really get the essence of life. they're intelligent and even capable but they are shackled
  468. siz
  469. :
  470. How do you know they arent just acting for money though so they can enjoy their life
  471. 無念無想
  472. :
  473. it's not really just controlling myself it's more i want to enjoy life and see how it is. i just came to understand that self-control is the only method to do it and go really far
  474. whether you want to be a hedonist and just go to random orgies and eat the best food or you want to an ascetic who can burn themselves alive without caring
  475. you need to grasp this sort of internal control. this "will to power" or whatever you want to describe it as
  476. if you want to rise up further than where you're at now you can only struggle to climb further. that means having an attitude that helps improve your life and the ability to focus on your goals
  477. when you go far enough all the things that seemed so important in the past are like grains of sand
  478. why do i not think those people are happy? cause their worldview is garbage
  479. even if they're acting why bother?
  480. i can imagine they started because they had a really strong passion for it
  481. everybody wants to understand stuff even if they're mentally retarded
  482. so all these sort of altright, alexjones, or whatever just want to explore and understand the world
  483. they're trying to do it using the method they can apply and understand
  484. to me though it's not good enough
  485. siz
  486. :
  487. What is good enough
  488. 無念無想
  489. :
  490. they can't really reach conclusions i want or see far enough
  491. siz
  492. :
  493. If they're trying to understand and theyre pursuing knowledge whys it a bad thing
  494. 無念無想
  495. :
  496. who knows? there's always something more in life
  497. it's not a bad thing
  498. they aren't wrong for trying at all
  499. it doesn't have value to me though so what can i say? they're struggling to understand and it's their own journey
  500. specifically about the happy part though?
  501. people aren't really happy
  502. they get depressed and lonely easily
  503. they really need lots of validation from others. they're not to comfortable in their own skin
  504. they got tons of regrets
  505. people really struggle with this shit
  506. even if they wear a smile on the outside what's brewing inside is something different
  507. you asked about the conclusion. life always has more. whatever you can imagine there's something beyond that
  508. that's what infinite means
  509. people struggle through life trying to reach some conclusion
  510. they don't reach a conclusion that makes them happy though
  511. i don't really understand that aspect cause i'm not other people
  512. i don't have regrets or feel the world has anything worth hating truly
  513. siz
  514. :
  515. interesting
  516. 無念無想
  517. :
  518. does anything i'm saying make sense?
  519. siz
  520. :
  521. yeah but I feel people get regretful because if something fails or doesnt work out they cant just accept the happy/positive experiences they gained from it they only look at the negative aspects
  522. and that starts to pile up
  523. if a relationship ends theres almost never anyone that actually looks at how it improved them or what they gained from it
  524. would you say the bad and the good out weight each other? if you have a certain amount of fun or enjoyment you're always going to have equally amount as bad to happen to you in some way or in the future
  525. 無念無想
  526. :
  527. you bought up a really good point
  528. it's difficult to weigh things and actually give them a value
  529. like if somebody harms you, but you look back and see how them harming helped you does that mean they meant well?
  530. you try to start reading their intentions for why they did it
  531. siz
  532. :
  533. ye
  534. 無念無想
  535. :
  536. it becomes a very complex web of thought that's difficult to juggle or reach a real conclusion
  537. you can attack this problem from a lot of angles
  538. no matter what you should try to gain from bad experience. any experience is something for you to learn from and improve yourself with
  539. siz
  540. :
  541. well and that's just as something as simple as action which shows how complex things actually are
  542. 無念無想
  543. :
  544. bad experience are especially important because it shows you your own weakness and vulnerability
  545. the human element or "intention" is really dicy
  546. you can run circles forever trying to understand this. it would require a lot of theory about why i reached this conclusion but that would take too much time
  547. thd dicey aspect of it can be ignored
  548. you don't need to understand the intentions
  549. what matters is the conclusion
  550. suppose they have an intention for a split second
  551. it changes
  552. like the first part it's good the second part it's bad
  553. what's their intention? it's just mixed good and bad
  554. siz
  555. :
  556. you can also learn things incorrectly from bad experiences too though
  557. 無念無想
  558. :
  559. suppose it's split and a mix as in 30% bad, 30% good, and 40% neutral then what?
  560. you don't even know the real thoughts they had and it's difficult or nearly impossible to accurately read them
  561. why? because they don't even really understand themselves
  562. siz
  563. :
  564. yeah they dont even know themselves that's what I was gonna say
  565. how can you understand someone that cant understand themselves
  566. 無念無想
  567. :
  568. even supposing they do understand what difference does it make? what matters in reality is the conclusion
  569. you don't do well because somebody gives you lots of problems and harms
  570. you
  571. you do well despite them doing it
  572. you overcome all the stuff in front of you
  573. whatever it is
  574. so somebody throws a grenade or gives you a flower it doesn't matter
  575. you just need to gain experience and learn from it/overcome it
  576. they aren't enabling you to overcome it
  577. you're doing that yourself
  578. life has an unendless amount of shit to throw at you
  579. an endless
  580. however how do you reconcile people harming you? because suppose they did you need to organize your thoughts and feelings about it
  581. you just take it and throw it in the garbage
  582. it doesn't matter. it's in the past. memories of this crap is important because you need to organize your internal world and prepare for the future
  583. if your world is organized and your views are rock solid then you don't need to care about the memories at all
  584. that attitude is pretty hard to accept
  585. your memories are you. you treasure them and don't want to let them go
  586. this is too difficult to unpack cleanly. normal people can't accept this attitude because it feels like they're losing part of themselves
  587. they want to hold onto it
  588. hmm..... i don't know how to tie this into my original point without writing a lot of stuff that's too difficult to accept
  589. my thoughts about life aren't compatible with what normal people want from life
  590. you had asked why i disliked normal people. it's not because r9k incel shit. it's actually just cause what we want from life and how we view it is different
  591. siz
  592. :
  593. what do you want that's so differently from normal people?
  594. doesnt it just stem down to happiness
  595. 無念無想
  596. :
  597. normal people aren't happy though
  598. if everybody was happy why would there be wars and issues with race?
  599. it's precisely because i want to be happy that i don't like them
  600. siz
  601. :
  602. are you saying they dont want to be happy or they're looking at life wrong
  603. 無念無想
  604. :
  605. no they want to be happy
  606. they're greedy for anything possible
  607. if it stimulates them they want it
  608. their approach and thoughts about life are wrong
  609. they want to be happy and understand life but so what?
  610. everybody wants to be a billion lord empire of the world too who gives a shit
  611. billlionaire
  612. they can want anything they can imagine but that doesn't mean they'll ever get it
  613. even if they get it it's like sand slipping out of their hands
  614. siz
  615. :
  616. what do you want exactly
  617. 無念無想
  618. :
  619. we;'re both born into this world. we don't really understand what the world is
  620. we fumble around and try to see where we can arrive at
  621. i want to see where i can arrive at
  622. where i'm heading isn't where normal people that's for damn sure though
  623. siz
  624. :
  625. where are you heading?
  626. 無念無想
  627. :
  628. who knows? i don't have all the answers. i'm just fumbling around myself. i only know i won't be happy doing what normal people are. i don't get depressed, loney, and this other shit. i've enjoyed my life and feel i understand more than ever. so what's next? what i've been doing. i don't really have a strong answer for myself. i just see the limit of normal people and know that's not where i want to go
  629. lol my answer is really vague and shitty but that's what it is
  630. i don't understand how others decide to live their lives. i only get the general ideas behind it
  631. my ideas are more detached. like stuff in front of me might as well be clouds
  632. siz
  633. :
  634. what limits normal people anyway?
  635. do you have any plans for a political career or anything like that
  636. Also its pouring rain here I got a few flash flood warnings and apparently doordash and other food delivery services are shut down
  637. I checked the weather and at 5 pm (that's when my class starts) is when thunder will start happening
  638. I'm wondering if class will get cancelled or not. Its supposed to be an important day
  639. Finals
  640. 無念無想
  641. :
  642. i know some more general reasons but if you mean like stuff relating to existence then i'm not sure
  643. do you like the rain?
  644. siz
  645. :
  646. Yeah it just debilitates me like what I can do today
  647. But that's ok
  648. I can enjoy today in other ways
  649. 無念無想
  650. :
  651. you saw jorden peterson
  652. i really like the rain
  653. that self-help guy
  654. siz
  655. :
  656. Yeah
  657. The kike from Canada that only talks about u.s. politics for some reason
  658. 無念無想
  659. :
  660. i'll explain in terms of him and what limits him
  661. he's very smart. he has a lot of very practical experience with people that give him insight most people won't even begin to imagine
  662. i'm not praising him as a saint or anything like that
  663. siz
  664. :
  665. You know his whole policy is about never letting the mob win and ALWAYS fighting back no matter what. Then he says kavanaugh should step down because of public outroar, even if he did nothing wrong
  666. 無念無想
  667. :
  668. i'm acknowleding he's somebody that's very capable and has a very broad understanding of the world and people
  669. siz
  670. :
  671. I dont think he ever explained why he contradicted himself like that it was weird
  672. 無念無想
  673. :
  674. in terms of understanding other people and getting human nature he's one of the best people talking about it
  675. where's the limit or issue though?
  676. the limit is his own ideas about the world
  677. he doesn't say everything that's on his mind
  678. he would never tell you the absolute raw truth of his thoughts
  679. siz
  680. :
  681. Why
  682. 無念無想
  683. :
  684. he explains a lot of stuff that's incredibly accurate. it's really truthful and will give you his insight and even insight into others
  685. the issue is when you reach a certain kind of mindset you understand more dangerous ideas
  686. i talked about will to power, but the thing is it's not something you teach everybody or really talk about to random strangers
  687. because your ideas become more difficult to articulate and more taboo
  688. jorden peterson is somebody who wants to help impower stupid incel /pol/r9k/ going nowhere and blaming everybody else for their life
  689. he's not trying to teach you how to exercise your will to power and dominate others and yourself
  690. it's contraband
  691. you save the good stuff for yourself
  692. but it's also because it's extremely difficult to say this stuff in a way others understand
  693. jorden peterson knows about jews and niggers
  694. etc
  695. why doesn't he say it? cause it's his limit
  696. it's not his limit that he doesn't get what they're doing
  697. siz
  698. :
  699. Isnt he a jew?
  700. 無念無想
  701. :
  702. give me a couple to really think about how to explain this clearly
  703. siz
  704. :
  705. Well he would lose his appeal no? And he would make less money
  706. Less people would watch him if he became more than a self help guru
  707. Or maybe not he just didnt want to take that risk
  708. He could've been bigger or maybe he could've been smaller depending on his message that's why he didnt take the next step because he was afraid
  709. 無念無想
  710. :
  711. there's only enough room on the throne of power for one person
  712. you know how there's been conquers in history who treat human life like grass and just dominate everything in front of them?
  713. siz
  714. :
  715. Yea
  716. 無念無想
  717. :
  718. like the world exists to bow in front of them and they're basically gods
  719. that's the contraband the theory behind that
  720. peterson understands how to empower people but he won't do it completely honestly because he understands you can't have a world where people are fighting other ubermensch
  721. you need cattle. not everybody can be the cowboy
  722. siz
  723. :
  724. But if he limits himself he will never be anything more than a self help guru
  725. Isnt it worth the risk?
  726. 無念無想
  727. :
  728. peterson limits himself because he has a whole life and theory of the world which he refuses to break
  729. he traces on what's the truth but is too scared to talk about it
  730. the idea about jews and niggers is that he wants to articulate how niggers and jews are fine, but he doesn't have a complete worldview that's totally coherent
  731. he can't synthesis the world and have the attitude like life is equal to grass and only his truth is real
  732. what i'm saying seems unhinged but let me explain it in another way
  733. there's the idea when you look into the abyss it looks back
  734. there's the fairy tale about the hero who goes to slay the dragon, but after he slays it he transform into the dragon
  735. it's this kind of idea
  736. you need to be able to do it if you want to fully understand it
  737. when you can really understand it then you're already at the point of being able to do it
  738. peterson values people, his family, and the world to really break his own mental shackles of the world
  739. does any of that make sense
  740. he preaches logos but he can't really look at his own shadow or accept the world as he sees it really. so his view is incoherent and that's his limit. other people have limits based on biology and their own attitude towards life
  741. siz
  742. :
  743. Yeah
  744. 無念無想
  745. :
  746. treating life like dirt isn't the limit either. the mindset isn't just slaughter but the will to power
  747. words are really useless for this stuff. you just need to see and experience it yourself. how the world is and what's coherent or not is for you to decide
  748. people just need to do when you're around this area of ideas. pick whatever you want and simply do it whatever it is
  749. i've been rambling but i wanted to say this stuff cause i'd feel bad if i only left you with white nationalism instead of the real contraband
  750. people at the top send milions off to die because life really doesn't matter to them. it's grass
  751. be back in like 30
  752. siz
  753. :
  754. but why are you telling me all of this
  755. im interested in it but didnt you say you dont get lonely
  756. why bother helping me if you're not gaining anything
  757. 無念無想
  758. :
  759. why not do it? who says i don't gain anything
  760. you said you learned from but the last thing i really talked with you about was white nationalism. those ideas are incomplete. while the ideas about inequality and racial differences are true the foundation that it relies on with racial altruism don't exist in reality
  761. even if everything i said seems totally unhinged and doesn't make sense i can feel i tried at least
  762. things come and things go. i do it or i don't. it's like fleeting clouds
  763. 無念無想
  764. :
  765. actually when i was cooking i started to think more
  766. why?
  767. siz
  768. :
  769. yea
  770. 無念無想
  771. :
  772. cause we met on warosu 6 years ago. whenever i'm not on steam for a long time you remove but add me back. you told me you were 19, but actually 14. so i was giving advice to a 14 year old as a 23 year old about his online dating.
  773. that last part really makes me crackup
  774. siz
  775. :
  776. lol
  777. 無念無想
  778. :
  779. cause you ask questions and i like answering them
  780. i think you've got a good starting point and grasp stuff quickly so it's not exactly wasted. i don't have ill-will towards others instead cause the circumstance we met i'd instead give advice that's help
  781. siz
  782. :
  783. i always removed you in the past from when i cleared my friends list but id always re-add you for some reason i guess i liked your advice it's interesting
  784. 無念無想
  785. :
  786. cooking so it's kinda delayed
  787. the internet is interesting. you can connect with all sorts of crazy and unimaginable people
  788. i removed everybody off my friends list not cause i dislike them or something similar. we're just at really different places. i'm not really around to play games and it's not fun when everything is distant. you need some common place to be friends or chat
  789. siz
  790. :
  791. it's not like we ever really play games anyway besides a long time ago in wc3
  792. 無念無想
  793. :
  794. in the past just being around /jp/ sphere was enough cause it requires a certain kind of degenerate to hang around there
  795. meeting people who posted and chatting about whatever
  796. i don't really remember i told you this or not but there's a buddhist saying
  797. there's a world in a flower and enlightenment in a leaf
  798. the flower part is to show there's a world outside your imagination in everything. the part of the leaf is to show enlightenment or meaning isn't gained from superficial pseudo shit it's gained from something as simple as a leaf
  799. i guess a simpler way to say it is there's always more and there's meaning in everything
  800. siz
  801. :
  802. I'm driving home in the rain atm then I got a final written essay for English I do in class at 5
  803. Pacific coast highway is closed entirely
  804. Gotta take back streets
  805. 無念無想
  806. :
  807. you really shouldn't text when you're driving stay saf
  808. e
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