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- Kuvira vs Ilpyo
- R1 Emb
- - Intro post from the last round.
- R2 Mik
- - Kuvira throws/breaks fridge sized boulders. Disables people with metal from her armor.
- - Has some shields. Durable enough to survive hits that flip cars.
- - Scales to 20 ft arrow timing. Has range and strange vectors.
- R3 Mik
- - Kuvira metalbends Ilypo's bracelet and/or nanomachines.
- - Ilpyo has no durability, just scaling to non-windup hits.
- - Kuvira has massive environmental control. GOH scaling is bad.
- - Kuvira scales to boulder-pushing durability.
- R4 Emb
- - Ilpyo blitzes with FTE-ish movement speed. 1 frame actions.
- - Ilpyo has better airbending than the airbending that floors Kuvira.
- - Ilpyo is skilled enough to deflect projectiles.
- - Ilpyo takes concrete busting blows from big monster dudes. He also isn't wearing a bracelet.
- R4 Mik
- - Ilpyo has a lot of nanomachines and implicitly has the bracelet.
- - Kuvira controls the ground to control Ilpyo, hits him if he goes airborne.
- - Ilpyo uses his speed poorly.
- - "1 frame" doesn't mean anything, Kuvira also does that.
- - Kuvira can get off her attacks faster than Ilpyo can move in the air.
- - Ilpyo's punches don't scale to the giants.
- R5 Emb
- - Kuvira doesn't have the precision to bend nanomachines.
- - The bracelet would just break anyways.
- - Ilpyo blitzes.
- R6 Emb
- - Ilpyo is faster than Kuvira.
- - Ilpyo grapples/tears/punches.
- R7
- - Kuvira is way stronger than Ilpyo's offense/durability.
- - Ilpyo doesn't use speed. Kuvira controls the environment.
- Cap vs Jin
- R1 Emb
- - Intro post from last round.
- R2 Mik
- - Cap embeds heads in concrete. Snaps pillars and tackles through walls with heavier strikes. Durability is seemingly equal or slightly better.
- - Superhuman speed in all aspects, even in just regular function.
- - Shield.
- R3 Mik
- - Cap produces concrete craters quickly and easily, Jin needs wind-up. Even his wind-up is poor. Jin's durability is also equal to or far less than Cap's own.
- - Jin's speed is inconsistent.
- - The shield blocks everything and acts as a ranged option.
- R4 Emb
- - Jin busts concrete, Cap can endure the same but relies on surface area. Slow motion isn't a windup. Jin has good durability and the shield has a large surface area.
- - Repost of Jin's 1 frame actions. Faster than Cap.
- - Jin has piercing resistance and can use throws to get past the shield.
- R5 Mik
- - Jin obviously has windup. Cap doesn't, and is still stronger anyways.
- - Jin has durability antifeats vs Daewi.
- - The shield's surface area isn't relevant.
- R6 Mik
- - 1 frame punches do no damage. Cap has FTE hands.
- - Jin has no piercing resistance, Cap snaps his neck if he tries to grapple.
- R7 Emb
- - Windup is just slow motion.
- - Daewi anifeat doesn't exist.
- - Cap is slow and doesn't have real skill.
- R8 Emb
- - The same as the above basically. Cap is slow. Jin has big craters.
- R9 Mik
- - Similar. Jin has no piercing. Jin has windup on relevant hits. Cap can neck snap or shield bash.
- Scorpion vs Daewi
- R1 Emb
- - Intro post from last round.
- R2 Mik
- - Scorp craters stone with strikes, can make larger craters with heavier tackles.
- - Fast. Can fight multiple opponents.
- - Teleports rapidly to land unexpected attacks. Has a chain kunai and swords.
- R3 Mik
- - Scorpion uses his speed and teleportation to slit Daewi's throat.
- - Daewi striking antifeat. Scorpion no antifeat. Who win?
- R4 Emb
- - Daewi is faster, 1 frame dodges.
- - Daewi craters concrete better than attacks that floor Scorpion.
- - Scales to Jin.
- - Daewi has piercing resistance vs blades that split asphalt.
- R5 Mik
- - Scorpion also has 1 frame dodges.
- - Daewi is repeatedly hit by slow attacks, and his prediction still requires him to get hit first.
- - Daewi's kick is worse than Scorpion's headbutt.
- - Windup.
- - Daewi has been pierced before. He may have skilled the blade, also.
- R6 Emb
- - Daewi was only hit three times by bat guy.
- - Daewi scales to concrete busting, does it himself.
- R7 Emb
- - Same as the above. Scales to Bora.
- R8 Mik
- - Scorpion teleports. He's stronger and has piercing.
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- Mik wins 2-1.
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- Kuvira vs Ilpyo
- I'm split on this one.
- I'm not totally sold on Kuvira being able to metalbend nanomachines. Even if there's enough to cover a portion of the spine, you could also point out that there's enough sand to cover a beach. But that doesn't make sandbending any easier.
- I also don't really buy the 1 frame Kuvira arguments. Kuvira definitely acts in 1 frame on several occasions, but she acts slower than Ilpyo as a whole. Rate of fire, all that. That said, I do buy that Ilpyo will not necessarily immediately open the round with a crazy speed blitz.
- I think ultimately, though, Ilpyo is faster. And I can buy Ilpyo being strong more than I can the rest of Embrace's team. Conversely, Kuvira's durability feats aren't that great compared to the Impoverished/giant feat. If Ilpyo gets into hand-to-hand, which shouldn't be that hard with the starting distance, he'd definitely win.
- Slight win to Ilpyo. Kuvira could also potentially win if she entraps him first, though.
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- Cap vs Jin
- Cap wins.
- Windups are real. I don't know why Embrace keeps arguing this point. It's extremely obvious. I can buy that the windups do not literally take half a minute in-universe, but it's also still clearly way more motion than "a jab". Jin doing three tornado spinning kicks isn't something that comes out as quick as the 1 frame action compilation, slow motion or otherwise.
- I can buy that Cap's speed is vaguer, but I don't think it really matters. I also think the shield surface area arguments are dumb. Jin isn't going to care about the square meter of shield surface area when he's being hit with the hardest metal in the universe being thrust forward with enough energy to shatter a wall.
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- Scorpion vs Daewi
- Scorpion wins.
- Daewi barely cracking concrete with a kick that has him raise his knee up to his head sucks. Scorpion does this with literally any motion. Scorpion gets "floored" by Daewi's best hits. Not "beaten", just "floored". Who cares.
- Similarly, who cares if Daewi actually took 3-to-1 hits instead of 6-to-1. Your honor, Flash was hit with a bullet from 10 feet away, not 15. Not an antifeat.
- Scorpion kills Daewi with massively better physicals and teleportation.
- I didn't buy the piercing argument from Mik, I guess. I think it's intuitive that the powered up, sharpened version of a blunt weapon would cut better than said blunt weapon.
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