with
6:20 PM - kram: has a kid
6:20 PM - kram: by herself
6:20 PM - kram: and she only makes $20/hr
6:21 PM - kram: 28.37 is living wage for 1 adult 1 child
6:21 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: :)
6:21 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: n u tell me gender wage gap aint real?????
6:21 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: n she make only 20??
6:21 PM - kram: dude stfu
6:21 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: lmfao
6:21 PM - kram: that shits not funny anymore
6:21 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: but no srsly
6:21 PM - kram: hasnt been for awhile
6:21 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: yeah but why do u really think she actually only makes 20 bucks an hour
6:21 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: cuz that's sad
6:21 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: how low that is
6:21 PM - kram: cuz shes a fucign retard
6:21 PM - kram: she overpaid af
6:22 PM - kram: she doesnt know how to do shit
6:22 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: idk 20 seems mad low for construction type work idk
6:22 PM - kram: everybody wonders how she hasnt been fired yet
6:22 PM - kram: i make 18?
6:22 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: maybe because i'm used to getting told that ppl make like 30 an hour cuz they do construction in nyc
6:22 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: idk
6:22 PM - kram: how botu dat for a gender gap?
6:22 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: what does she even do
6:22 PM - kram: she makes more than me and shes way less competent
6:23 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: same position as you?
6:23 PM - kram: yes
6:23 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: lol
6:23 PM - kram: but shes always on the crew that gets the easiest work
6:23 PM - kram: and she doesnt know how to do anything
6:23 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: she mustve been there longer idk
6:23 PM - kram: she got promoted to crew chief really early
6:23 PM - kram: for some fucking reason
6:23 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: she blew sum rite ppl
6:23 PM - kram: and since then she been demoted they took her phone away paid time off etc
6:23 PM - kram: but they didnt lower her pay cuz thats illegal
6:23 PM - kram: lmfao thats what im thianking
6:24 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: lol
6:24 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: nice gender wage gab
6:24 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: u can blow sum1?
6:24 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: and get promoted
6:24 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: but guys cant?
6:24 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: lol???
6:24 PM - kram: dude stop that kinda shit
6:24 PM - kram: all it does is piss ppl off
6:24 PM - kram: in case u havent noticed
6:24 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: im just havin a GOOF
6:24 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: i mean it seems to just piss you off
6:24 PM - kram: well im telling you straight up
6:24 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: i'm just genuinely joking
6:24 PM - kram: thats why you pushed away like mikes group of friends and stuff man
6:24 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: dunno why so touchy on that subject even as a joke
6:24 PM - kram: just being frank
6:25 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: what friends
6:25 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: what do u mean
6:25 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: drippy that those idiots?
6:25 PM - kram: like nova drippy colton etc
6:25 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: never rly liked them
6:25 PM - kram: yea i still talk to them
6:25 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: plus i dislike drippy for various reasons
6:25 PM - kram: ofc
6:25 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: but i pushed them away from mike?
6:26 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: i don't see how i d id that
6:26 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: lol
6:26 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: cuz i havent even really spoke to mike or them to begin with
6:26 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: those were mikes f riends, never really mine idk why they'd just stop talking to mike cuz of me lol
6:26 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: they seem like a bunch of alt-righters anyways
6:26 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: ain't worth bein friends wit
6:28 PM - kram: theyre not
6:28 PM - kram: that sjw shit is exactly why trump got elected lol
6:29 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: is being an sjw even that bad
6:29 PM - kram: it just pisses ppl off
6:29 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: i mean can you even call yourself part of the "left" if you don't even fight for social inequality and justice?
6:29 PM - kram: dude stop
6:29 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: serious question
6:29 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: stop what i dont understand lol
6:29 PM - kram: im not here to argue with you
6:29 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: why is politics so touchy for people
6:29 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: i'm n ot even arguing
6:29 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: i'm asking a question like
6:30 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: cuz "sjw" is such a bad connotation right now
6:30 PM - kram: its condescending
6:30 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: when it makes no sense
6:30 PM - kram: and arrogant
6:30 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: cuz people wanna call themselves liberals but they're too pussy to like actually do anything about it
6:30 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: fukingh neo liberal passive fucks
6:31 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: i mean ok yea i'm kinda far left but whatever
6:31 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: sorry i just like equality 4 ppl
6:31 PM - kram: see
6:31 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: and hate the systematic bullshit of cops and government
6:31 PM - kram: now youre acting like anyone who isnt liek you is againt equality
6:31 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: and how it opresses certain ppl
6:31 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: never said that
6:31 PM - kram: you fucking insinuate that people arent for equality
6:31 PM - kram: 6:31 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: sorry i just like equality 4 ppl
6:31 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: yeah but you're getting mad over something like how i made a joke about
6:31 PM - kram: acting like other people arwent
6:31 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: and then you say the reason why ppl don't like me is because of sjw bullshit
6:31 PM - kram: im not mad about that
6:32 PM - kram: its just annoying
6:32 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: but what the hell is even sjw about believing in equality for ppl
6:32 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: who are oppressed
6:32 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: ?
6:32 PM - kram: and other people get annoyed by it too
6:32 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: why are they annoyed
6:32 PM - kram: no its how theyre arogant and condescending about it
6:32 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: doesn't the systematic oppression and poverty instilled by the government not pisss you off more?
6:32 PM - kram: how if  you arent exactly like them then you must hate women and be racist
6:32 PM - kram: holy shit and its so pretentious and /r/iamverysmart
6:33 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: not really
6:33 PM - kram: im telling you my opinion
6:33 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: i never said b ecause you dont go around telling people they're fucked up for saying sexist racist shit thaty you arent equal to me and hate black people and women
6:33 PM - kram: and lots of others as well
6:33 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: but how is even touyching on a subject with a joke making you mad
6:33 PM - kram: youve called me sexist and racist before
6:33 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: like "must be the gender wage gap"
6:33 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: like i dont get why you're actually mad about it
6:33 PM - kram: dude its not that alone
6:34 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: yeah because certain things people say
6:34 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: can be interprited as idk racist and sexist
6:34 PM - kram: its everything else the whole awttitude
6:34 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: there's like underlining meanings behind the choices of words ppl use
6:34 PM - kram: and you act all high and mighty
6:34 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: i had a fucking walgreens customer come in the other day and cry aobut the mexican lady in front of him with a food stamp card paying for food
6:34 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: and cries about how "we're paying for them to live" and "they shouldf go back to their own country"
6:34 PM - kram: yeah thats fucked up
6:35 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: so it's kinda hard to distinguish whos racist and not racist
6:35 PM - kram: dude in virginia
6:35 PM - kram: sooo many people are alt right and shit
6:35 PM - kram: i actually hate it
6:35 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: and mikes friends are kinda fucking racist
6:35 PM - kram: being from california
6:35 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: aka drippy
6:35 PM - kram: no hes not lol
6:35 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: and also transphobic, i dont mean to come off high and mighty but i really actually do have lots of friends who are gay/trans and it just pisses me off to hear the disrespect from people aobut them because the people i know are genuinely good people
6:35 PM - kram: hes not
6:36 PM - kram: he knows a lot of trans people too dude
6:36 PM - kram: hes worked at bars for yeawrs
6:36 PM - kram: hes a really smart guy
6:36 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: yea he says that but then he makes a generalizing statement which comes off rude and disrespectful as fuck
6:36 PM - kram: if you actually gave him a chance to explain himself instead of just branding him and not listening to anything he sdays
6:36 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: and let alone he claimed anecdotal  evidence as facts
6:36 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: i did let him explain himself
6:37 PM - kram: i dont think you did
6:37 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: and i didn't really wanna listen to him saying how "all trans people end uyp going crazy because of hormonal imbalances because of drugs they take and shit"
6:37 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: i listened to it truly
6:37 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: and there's plenty of studies you can google that counters this statement and claim
6:37 PM - kram: wtf are you talking about
6:37 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: lol
6:37 PM - kram: hes literawlly met people
6:37 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: the argument with me and drippy
6:37 PM - kram: and has noticed theyre unstable
6:37 PM - kram: and they have hormone imbalances
6:38 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: i know a few trans people and none of them have experienced this
6:38 PM - kram: like thats the definition of trans
6:38 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: let alone this being anecdotal evidence
6:38 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: you really cant claim anecdotes as facts of truths
6:38 PM - kram: youre using anectdotal evidence too then!
6:38 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: yea but i just said there's plenty of studies done that disproves this
6:38 PM - kram: ok link them
6:38 PM - kram: show me a study that says 100% of trans people dont have hormone imbalances lmao
6:39 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: and there's even more proving how being trans isn't a "disease" or how it's "something" wrong with you that needs to be fixed
6:39 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: kinda like how people say being "gay" is a lifestyle choice
6:39 PM - kram: now youre just chawnging the subject
6:39 PM - kram: show me the studies
6:39 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: being gay and straight is straight up chosen on your brain chemistry
6:39 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: not changing the studies
6:39 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: the convo*
6:39 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: literally a comparable analogy
6:39 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: but google is free my friend
6:39 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: why should i have to google it 4 u
6:39 PM - kram: YOURE THE ONE CLAIMING IT
6:40 PM - kram: HOLY SHIT LOL
6:40 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: ?
6:40 PM - kram: youre saying there are studies
6:40 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: yeah and the burdon of proof really isn't on me
6:40 PM - kram: then i ask you  to show youre references
6:40 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: i've read these studies months ago man
6:40 PM - kram: then youre telling me to go find them?
6:40 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: do i really gotta dig up some old shit
6:40 PM - kram: YOU MADE THE CLAIM YOU HAVE TO BACK IT UP
6:40 PM - kram: thats the burden of proof on you dude
6:40 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: you wanted to fact check my claim
6:40 PM - kram: holy shit
6:40 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: you can do the research because its literally a google search dude wtf
6:40 PM - kram: dude when people write essays etc
6:40 PM - kram: do they have the references at the end?
6:40 PM - kram: or do they say "hey you have to go find it"?
6:41 PM - kram: literawlly in 100% of history books ive read
6:41 PM - kram: they ALL have their own  references
6:41 PM - kram: because they make the claim
6:41 PM - kram: they have the burden of proof
6:41 PM - kram: if you dont see this then theres no point in furthering this convo
6:42 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: i know the burdon of proof
6:42 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: and u can st ill google the facts
6:42 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: instead of trying to believe anecdotal claims from a person on the internet
6:42 PM - kram: no fuck that
6:42 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: cuz now i gotta spend 10 mins looking thru google searches and various seraching
6:42 PM - kram: you make a claim
6:42 PM - kram: saying there are studies
6:42 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: to pull the fucking studies and shit for u to read
6:42 PM - kram: then when asked for the references or sources
6:42 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: that you arent even gonna actually read
6:42 PM - kram: you say you go find it
6:42 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: you're just trying to start shit by like "WHERES THE PROOF LINK IT LINK IT"
6:42 PM - kram: you have broken logic
6:42 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: when it's like u can do it
6:43 PM - kram: which is more infuriating then anything else
6:43 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: lOL
6:43 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: yeah
6:43 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: cuz i should go have to find the studies FOR you
6:43 PM - kram: the studies youre making your claims off of
6:43 PM - kram: yes
6:43 PM - kram: yes you should
6:43 PM - kram: cuz as of right now you dont have a leg to stand on
6:43 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: when you can just elieve me at how i read these studies and shit and i am probably more right than some internet dude telling you that his trans friends are all mentally unstable and they've told him so
6:43 PM - kram: and you have the same anectodatal evidence that youre claiming is illegetitmate
6:44 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: because that's DEF more believable than me saying there's actual studies out there
6:44 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: about how that shit is fucking false
6:44 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: let alone being trans isn't a mental illness
6:44 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: like how ppl tryt and claim all the fucking time
6:44 PM - kram: youre acting like an idiot dude
6:44 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: you're literally strawmanning me
6:44 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: by crying about there needing to be LINKS OF EVIDENCE
6:44 PM - kram: keep pulling out the buzz phrases
6:44 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: ?
6:44 PM - kram: wow im asking for evidence to claims
6:44 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: are you or are you not actually strawman arguing rigth now
6:44 PM - kram: and thats bad
6:44 PM - kram: im done with this
6:44 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: you're really nitpicking this shit arent you
6:45 PM - kram: asking for evidence is nit picking
6:45 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: cuz i can sit here and argue
6:45 PM - kram: this is why you lose friends
6:45 PM - TOM FRM MYSPACE: or i can try and spend like fucking 20 mins of my own time to look for the articles for you