A defense of antifa

politik
thats pretty easy... go to where they are
politik
what is it you don't like about them, the use of violence?
politik
alright. what else can we chat about
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politik
I'm new to this decade. I was chatting here in the 90s and the 00s
politik
same then, politik
politik
I accept my fate
politik
trying to remember what names I used to see here
politik
negative yield in swiss francs might be better than positive yield in dollars, yeah
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Monfd
politik: What didn't they like
Monfd
I'd guess "antifa"
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politik
Monfd: he doesn't like how they intimidate folks
politik
so he's threatening to crush them with a lead pipe
Monfd
Intimidation and violence is good, in some cases.
Monfd
It's insufficient to show they have used intimidation.
politik
yes thats exactly the point
Monfd
politik: Almost everybody who hates antifa is only hating them because it's a rival faction that is somewhat effective.
Monfd
They don't care at all about violence or life.
politik
they want you to invest and pump asset prices
Monfd
If you were concerned about violence towards Americans, antifa would be like number 14.
Monfd
And probably not even that.
Monfd
They've four people in the last 30 years.
politik
get all these old money oligarchs into the scrum so we can take their money in the stock market
Monfd
They've killed four people in the last 30 years.
Monfd
If a person is concerned about violence against Americans, I think the number one issue would be gun violence.
Monfd
Which kills 100/day.
politik
Monfd: I agree with you, I thought it was ironic
Monfd
politik: Most people are mindless zombies who march with their faction.
Monfd
They have no idea how to maintain a stable society nor why a meta-factional republic that Madison described is good.
Monfd
It's not actually contradictory, from their values, to want to bash in the heads of antifa members with lead pipes.
Monfd
They support violence and intimidation when it is done by their faction, and they're against it when it's done against their faction.
Monfd
As a meta-factionalist, I support the state operating as a meta-faction to allow for factional diversity, as espoused in Federalist 10 and A Theory of Justice.
milkness
rumpy pumpy
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Monfd
As Popper articulates in The Open Society and its Enemies, you have to ostensibly move against some things you value in order to protect those things.
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Monfd
A stable meta-factional society has very little interfactional violence -- as that's one of its main goals -- but it support violence against factions when a faction breaches the constraints imposed by the state.
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Topic: pedophile weighs in on politics
rumblepez set the topic at: Jul 27, 2019 at 7:53 PM
Mode: +snl 101
Created at: Jul 11, 2001 at 1:36 PM
Monfd
A stable meta-factional society has very little interfactional violence -- as that's one of its main goals -- but it support violence against factions when a faction breaches the constraints imposed by the state.
Monfd
And it is in that vein that I support intimidation and violence.
milkness
oh, well kicking wont work on this prat
20:02 politik
was there a monologue scheduled
milkness
let's lop his balls off.
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Monfd
The American right no longer believes in democracy and is making a play for one party rule -- an existential threat to freedom and human rights -- and so has to be met with intense resistance in the form of non-violence and violence.