A Conversation With An OneCoin MLM Marketer
Translated from http://onecoin.voog.com/et
TL;DR: Onecoin is like selling cryptocurrency
instead of, say, amway coins or vector knives.
Literally a scam with the side effect that it
shows cryptocurrency as an illegitimate form
of currency as well as a method of pyramid
scheming.
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AP: hello i would like to share investment opportunity if interested & open minded, the text isnt short but isnt too long so go read and make your won decisions to start to try it or not. not gonna force you, just talking to you clean and honest of cryptomoney system called onecoin and I'll tell you that **it isn't some kind of MLM or pyramid scheming and you don't have to force some product on something...** you can make an account only via referral links: <blah> so let me know if you want to find out more about it. if you want to I'll also meet up with you so I can explain some stuff to you if you're currently in Estonia.

LS: so there isn't any MLMing here? I'd rather do that :D

AP: it's actually a MLM connected with cryptocurrency. But it's unique because there hasn't been anything unlike it and a binary structure is better than a pyramid. (what)

LS: can we do some partnering? You buy a Lyoness card from me and sell it to your friends so I get some coins in return. I also have a great interest in Zinzino coffee makers and Amway. I can give you some of these as well.

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AP: in this system you buy a package and with that you become an investor and the owner of yourself. Trading onecoin from outside estonia will start in 4-5 years and by then all the onecoins will be mined. Right now it's important for all commoners to own as many onecoins as possible, but it's possible to join with a company too I guess

AP: future shows us that it's gonna become one of the top currencies in the world since onecoin has got offers from corporations all over the world.

AP: many cryptocurrency fans are still playing around with their bitcoins, lightcon or dogecon, whatever, [sic] but they don't have such a concept as onecoin has. their system is very limited and hard to attain, bitcoin holders are mostly these kinds of it guys and have computer knowledge while an onecoin account can be owned by your rural grandma

LS: very good! how much is a normal package?

AP: Packages start from 130 €, 530€, 1030€, 3030€, 5030€ and 12530€. I currently have a 530€ package, below that is kind of pointless.

LS: and what's the productivity gonna be like in a year?

AP: I already have my first onecoins and my profits are multiple times as much as I gave in over two months. There's a constant growth in value because of all the people joining. Around the world, over 5000 people join every day and the numbers are counted in realtime. So if you're a user you can check your account for everything - there's the blockchain explorer, also graphs and figures.

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LS: can you lend me 530€? I would like a package then and let's split the profits.

AP: I can't lend you that much right now - I'm going on a trip to Rhodos tonight. You can make your account right now and you have a month to cough up the money. You can start with a smaller package and upgrade later, like I did.

LS: can you lend me that money in a month? I can wait...

AP: I can maybe by then but can't you really do it yoruself? 130 to start off with? I'm coming back Friday so we can meet up and discuss it in real life, so maybe you can make sense of the system better.

LS: yea, I kind of dumped all my savings on MONAVIE juice.

AP: I suggest you outgrow these things ;) just a suggestion, I'm in what will really turn a profit, whereas *those* products aren't easy to sell off. Onecoin doesn't actually have a product, so you're selling yourself through the system. You sell the idea of growth - it's a really genius approach and there is no obligation. Under me are some passive investors who just by sitting there have earned 150€ in two months.

LS: Yea, it's easier selling air - no storage fees. My entire apartment is now filled with juice and coffee makers. I've taken some to my mum's place and she's cross with me because she can't put her potatoes anywhere for the winter.

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AP: see? sell your shit and put all the profit towards onecoin, that's what I'm saying! if I had 5000€ free money I would buy it with my eyes closed just because I know and see the system - by the time I've been here, onecoin has doubled in value and in September it'll have tripled!

LS: well it takes time, but at one point I'll get my Zinzino jeep from those coffee maker guys!

AP: well right now one onecoin is 1.45€ so by the end of the year it'll be around 5€.

LS: but let's do this: let's talk again in september unless you can lend me the money earlier.

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AP: Hi! Fresh info: in the next few days there's gonna be a split, a difficulty increment and a value increment, so it's literally the perfect time to buy a package! I suggest you buy something by the start of this week if you want to, to get that extra profit. The next split will be in two and a half months, so it's gonna be a longer wait to get your onecoins. Right now it's gonna be easy and you can literally see the profit. Splits happen around every 3 months...?

LS: Great! I've been thinking of what happened. So did you get any money so we could start our deal?

AP: No I didn't get any money so I could get you a 500€ package for free. I don't even know you - you should do your own starting investment, sounds more logical I think...? If you need a loan, you should contact some relative that trusts you more, and you can pay it back with your profits.

LS: I think you should invest in me yourself, you know - the profits are huge, and we'll be sharing them! I can't really borrow from my relatives anymore because I became an AvonLady and had to buy a huge amount of cream jars.

AP: So you do around 500 different things at a time?

LS: Yes.

AP: What do you mean "sharing profit"? You have your profit, I have mine. It's all in what you do or don't - go sell your million jars of cream and you can easily get a package.

LS: I mean, if you invest in my coins you'll earn a pretty penny off me too. It's gonna be a way better thought getting a big package while at it - the 10000€ for example.

AP: the biggest one is 12530€

LS: I know a place where you can deposit your car if you can't get the entire 10k. What kind of car do you have?

AP: I don't have my car, I use my mom's.

LS: so tell your mom, maybe you can deposit it and then let's talk.

AP: No, but we need our car, go do it yourself.

LS: right now 1 onecoin is 1.45€ - by the end of the year it'll be 5€ - if we invest 12530€ then we can make 30676€ in pure profits. You can ride a taxi for the year, pay my part and buy TWO cars! I sold my own car to sell Kirby vacuums. They're expensive as fuck.

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AP: were it my car I would think about that. Maybe you can find a cooler guy who would actually do that.

LS: I have a friend who's Illuminati - offered me the opportunity. He liked the idea, but asked for your SSN and blood type to make the decision.

AP: what kind of joke is this? I don't even know my blood type, why is this necessary?

LS: I don't know - they apparently have a system where you can deposit your internal organs for money and they will request for organs by blood type.

AP: so they'll virtually take my internal organs as a security deposit?  I don't do this kind of hard shit...

LS: ah you don't need the blood type. He already has it from the national healthcare system. A Rh+ apparently. He'll make your account in a little while, I think.

AP: ah okay, so was it okay?

LS: Yes, he deposited your kidney for a 530€ package. I promised him 5x returns. Let's see about that.

AP: so he did what with my kidney?

LS: Basically something like you're using the illuminati's kidney if the ocntract fails - your kidney apparently belongs to them. Mostly legal bollocks, not really interesting. Just so you know though. Your organ donor ID isa pparenty KYL0L20008478.

LS: Oh, yea, he gets a share of the profits too.

AP: why are we splitting profits? I have my account, you two have yours. I don't get what you're saying? whose kidney is theirs? my kidney mine. nobody's taking away my kidney.

LS: You said I can't have your car so I made that kidney deal. Logically now we have a joint account. You the idea author, me the "realtor"? and the Illuminati, the investor.

AP: Wait what, why can't we all have separate accounts? I can't share my profits with you - I have a structure, that would mean throwing you free money and for what? You're gonna be in profit today anyway. You can't fail with this mathematically. I don't like this kidney deposit thing, what do you mean? Without my permission.... I'm not afraid of me, but I know of some people named illuminati...

LS: You have an account in the illuminati system and other people have already made their reservations for the kidney. It's all good I understood - we can make a pretty penny off all the organs. A scalp with hair sold for 700€ I've heard.. He said that this is the last moment, you can cancel if you mean

AP: wait

AP: I don't get how this is good for me or how do I get any profits off this? Or do I even get a profit?

LS: It's good to have a security in plaace. Right now we've agreed that your kidney will be a security for the 530€ package. If you want to withdraw, you have to declare this for them: "I, *name*, am a person with a brain. All my organs are mine and I will stop offering MLM products and services to strangers."

AP: Oh well, what have I gotten myself into? Yes, I want to withdraw the entire thing. Not gonna play around with my organs anymore with such lax conditions. I, AP, am a person with a brain. All my organs are mine and I'll stop pushing MLM products and services to strangers. That's it. Done.

LS: Okay, goodbye - it's way safer if you do it in the classifieds though.

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HO: Don't go play around with LS, he cheated 530€ out from me from some fund, said I'd get 70% of the profit. Told me to send a certificate but now disappeared, so don't be surprised if you get a call from the cops.

AP: Got it - He tried doing that to me too - told me about his apparent friend who's from the illuminati. Also wanted to deposit my kidney or something, what a nutcase

HO: yea, he gave me this as a security too. I got an organ donor number and I checked, it was totally certified.

AP: wait, what? You're the Illuminati?

HO: what? no! I gave him a loan and for a security I got a kidney. Told me I'd get a profit too - said I'd get a hefty profit off this.

AP: You got a kidney for security? Whose kidney?

HO: I don't know, I don't see that info...

AP: Well that's a fucked up system, did he tell you about some illuminati?

HO: well right now I don't care about the money, I want the kidney.

AP: They have some technology to access your kidney or something, how about tht?

HO: No I need it and I got the guarantee. I'm gonna go find out how to obtain it from my doctor now.

AP: Oh *you* need it.

HO: Wait maybe it's your kidney, can you give me your SSN so I can check?

AP: What? My kidney, what way? I don't get how I was put into some system without permission. What's going on?

HO: I don't know what shit you got yourself into...

AP: What the fuck did that guy tie me into without my knowledge? Contacted some illuminati and studied my blood type and all... What the fuck? I haven't given anyone anything, apparently he got my blood type off somewhere.

HO: Yes, that's important otherwise it doesn't match. I see that it's a A Rh + blood type. What's yours?

AP: I don't know...

HO: Well we can check with the SSN, whose kidney I now own.

AP: Whatever, I'm not a donor, are you an idiot?

HO: Nothing to do now, I just lost 530€ too.

AP: I've lost nothing, so no idea what you did.

HO: Well I would've probably invested that 530€ instead...

AP: You just gave someone 530€? Yes, there was a really good investment of Onecoin for exactly 530€.

HO: I didn't just give it to him, he promised definite profits for me. Well, it must be the same then.

AP: Here's your profit! I don't see anyone joined so it's a bluff - clear!

HO: Fuck

AP: Pretty sick what people do. Demand for your money back, go call the cops. Tell them LS took your money - they'll take care of it.

HO: I'll see, because I'll miss out on the kidney too...

AP: I don't get where you're getting your kidney from - some illuminati thing?

HO: LS gave me it as a security, I checked and it's legit.

AP: So you're having my kidney?

HO: Well, I can't check without your SSN.

AP: What's my SSN then? Oh you can't see it!

HO: I need to insert one. Let's try yours.

AP: So I have no idea, I hope there's not gonna be any trouble in this...

HO: I'm not a cheat.

AP: Okay, my gut tells me to trust you so: <ssn>

HO: Not yours. But I see that you've sold your liver?

AP: :D :D :D :D

HO: So your liver's dead huh?

AP: What a fucking perverse game of illuminati aliens. What's that about my liver? I'm as healthy as it gets. Where do I even see this kind of information, to check if I have something like that without my knowledge?

HO: Organovo.com, but you don't have an account so you can't see

AP: well, cool