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  1. [17:34:37] DoorToNothing [[email protected]] has joined #KHWiki-noticeboard
  2. [17:35:19] <DoorToNothing> So, Roundtable?
  3. [17:35:37] <DoorToNothing> Did it start, finish, what?
  4. [17:36:54] <KrytenKoro> people been waiting on you
  5. [17:38:07] <Crono|Sleep> Roundtable? oloswut
  6. [17:39:17] Organization13 [562d8575@gateway/web/freenode/ip.86.45.133.117] has quit IRC: Quit: Page closed
  7. [17:42:20] <Pea|FFTA2> ...
  8. [17:44:17] <DoorToNothing> Sorry.
  9. [17:44:33] <DoorToNothing> I got stuck doing errands, groceries, the like. Took much longer than necessary preparing for family.
  10. [17:44:35] <DoorToNothing> ANYWAY.
  11. [17:44:38] <DoorToNothing> Let's get started.
  12. [17:46:32] <wolf5000> ok
  13. [17:46:34] <DoorToNothing> The reason we're having this emergency roundtable is because we have built up a huge backlog of affiliation requests.
  14. [17:46:49] <wolf5000> Meaning?
  15. [17:47:01] <DoorToNothing> We need to (1) organize the requests, (2) make our decisions on all of the potential affiliates, and (3) decide how to better run affiliation requests in the future.
  16. [17:47:18] <DoorToNothing> (2a) Deal with DoorToNothing's concern of having a million LP affiliations.
  17. [17:47:20] <wolf5000> ok
  18. [17:47:41] <wolf5000> I feel the same
  19. [17:48:08] <wolf5000> having one or two per game is ok
  20. [17:48:34] <wolf5000> 75 for one gmae is not
  21. [17:50:09] <DoorToNothing> Agreed.
  22. [17:50:39] <DoorToNothing> Plus, it doesn't look very professional, IMHO, to have about seven sites as affiliates, and then a larger number of LP'ers.
  23. [17:50:56] <DoorToNothing> UNLESS if we classify the LP'ers as something special on the affiliates page that separates them (possible idea)
  24. [17:54:03] <wolf5000> That seems like an idea
  25. [17:54:22] <DoorToNothing> It looks like all of the requests have been moved onto the talk page for the Affiliates page, so let's just start there.
  26. [17:54:33] <DoorToNothing> Also, for the sake of starting conversation that is not taking place, MEGA PING TIME
  27. [17:54:56] <DoorToNothing> ChanServ Chaser Crono|Sleep DoorToNothing Fnoodle KrytenKoro Pea|FFTA2 PhilosopherSDC Sove wolf5000
  28. [17:55:05] <PhilosopherSDC> \Yes?
  29. [17:55:05] <Sove> Why ping me :O
  30. [17:55:16] <wolf5000> Nice ping
  31. [17:55:27] <PhilosopherSDC> You pinged yourself...........
  32. [17:55:41] <Chaser> oh what? was mutitasking
  33. [17:56:24] <wolf5000> TerraVoltage a new LP person asked to join
  34. [17:56:41] <wolf5000> So i looked at his youtube page http://www.youtube.com/user/TerraVoltage
  35. [17:57:12] <DoorToNothing> http://www.khwiki.net/KHWiki_talk:Affiliates#Requests_for_Affiliation Okay, let's just go down the page.
  36. [17:57:24] <Sove> Total Upload Views:
  37. [17:57:24] <Sove> 13,770
  38. [17:57:32] <Crono|Sleep> whatwhoping
  39. [17:57:43] <Crono|Sleep> I'm busy now, don't ping, can't talk
  40. [17:57:43] <DoorToNothing> We have several wikis here we have not yet decided on. Lylat Wiki, Nintendo Wiki, WikiBound, and Fire Emblem Wiki. We already are affiliated with NIWA.
  41. [17:58:02] <Chaser> I see that he put "Soon to be Affiliated With the KH Wiki" on one of his vid
  42. [17:58:13] <Crono|Sleep> if we're with NIWA, why do we have to affliate with all their individual wikis?
  43. [17:58:13] <Sove> Check the video views
  44. [17:58:15] <DoorToNothing> I agree with Nintendo Wiki since KH is on several Nintendo systems.
  45. [17:58:18] <Sove> A quick look
  46. [17:58:24] <Sove> No videos with over 200 views
  47. [17:58:33] <Crono|Sleep> that's like saying you love the UN and then saying you love everysingle country in the US
  48. [17:58:34] <Crono|Sleep> *UN
  49. [17:58:39] <Crono|Sleep> it's redundant
  50. [17:58:40] <DoorToNothing> Crono|Sleep: My thoughts exactly. However, NIWA stands for individualism in wikis (basically the exact OPPOSITE of what Wikia does), so I thinkwe should.
  51. [17:58:55] <Crono|Sleep> alright then, do that
  52. [17:59:05] <DoorToNothing> Plus not all of them have expressed that desire.
  53. [17:59:20] <DoorToNothing> Now, question.
  54. [17:59:33] <DoorToNothing> Is it okay to affiliate with just any wiki, or should it be related to KH?
  55. [18:00:13] <wolf5000> If it's related to KH that will cut a lot of it down
  56. [18:00:16] <Crono|Sleep> related to KH OR related to our goals
  57. [18:00:25] <Crono|Sleep> as in, SEIWA
  58. [18:00:31] <Crono|Sleep> thus, NIWA affliation = ok
  59. [18:01:09] <DoorToNothing> Agreed with Crono.
  60. [18:01:13] <wolf5000> goals of what?
  61. [18:01:16] <DoorToNothing> So all NIWA wikis are a'okay?
  62. [18:01:52] <DoorToNothing> hello?
  63. [18:02:06] <DoorToNothing> I think we should affiliate with all four of those wikis.
  64. [18:02:11] <DoorToNothing> Since they're all under NIWA.
  65. [18:02:32] <wolf5000> Yes
  66. [18:02:38] <PhilosopherSDC> Yeah
  67. [18:02:43] <Chaser> I'm good with it
  68. [18:02:48] <KrytenKoro> okay, I'm back
  69. [18:02:50] <DoorToNothing> Alright.
  70. [18:02:59] <DoorToNothing> I'll contact Bud and let him know our decision after the roundtable.
  71. [18:03:12] <DoorToNothing> http://www.khwiki.net/KHWiki_talk:Affiliates#Affiliation_Request This is next.
  72. [18:03:18] Xion4ever [adbf2d22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.191.45.34] has joined #KHWiki-noticeboard
  73. [18:03:24] <DoorToNothing> KrytenKoro already said that some users may have an issue with some of the cussing.
  74. [18:03:54] <Xion4ever> Have we started the emergency meeting?
  75. [18:04:05] <KrytenKoro> I just took a quick look
  76. [18:04:05] <DoorToNothing> Yes.
  77. [18:04:10] <KrytenKoro> I don't have an issue with the cussing
  78. [18:04:14] <KrytenKoro> and it's pretty minor, as I recall
  79. [18:04:22] <KrytenKoro> I'm just saying, that's the only issue I could think of
  80. [18:04:30] <DoorToNothing> All we've decided is to affiliate with the NIWA Wikis Bud brought up.
  81. [18:04:52] <Xion4ever> Alright, thanks. I'll be on for a little longer.
  82. [18:06:26] <DoorToNothing> I'm a little iffy.
  83. [18:06:31] <DoorToNothing> on Goddamitjoel
  84. [18:06:50] <Crono|Sleep> "Goddammitjoel"
  85. [18:06:52] <DoorToNothing> The username, a little language (just heard "faggot" in a vid of his)...
  86. [18:06:52] <Crono|Sleep> olosno.
  87. [18:06:59] <Crono|Sleep> AND he said "faggot"
  88. [18:07:00] <DoorToNothing> I ned more opinions, please.
  89. [18:07:03] <Crono|Sleep> sorry about this, guys
  90. [18:07:07] <Crono|Sleep> but that's SO NOT PG
  91. [18:07:11] <Crono|Sleep> so Crono says no on that guy
  92. [18:07:18] <DoorToNothing> SO NOT PG
  93. [18:07:22] DoorToNothing high-fives Cronolos.
  94. [18:07:26] <Crono|Sleep> c:
  95. [18:07:55] <DoorToNothing> I'm going to check through his vids a little bit more. If others could do the same, much appreciated!
  96. [18:08:30] <wolf5000> I am
  97. [18:09:13] <DoorToNothing> Oh, his videos skip.
  98. [18:09:14] KrytenKoro_ [[email protected]] has joined #KHWiki-noticeboard
  99. [18:09:19] <Chaser> doing it right now
  100. [18:09:30] <DoorToNothing> Like he just went from one part of Wonderland to a completely different on. And it was obviously on purpose because there was a transition effect.
  101. [18:09:38] <DoorToNothing> Not good LP'ing, I guess? I dunno, I don't do LP's.
  102. [18:11:03] KrytenKoro [[email protected]] has quit IRC: Ping timeout: 255 seconds
  103. [18:11:07] KrytenKoro_ [[email protected]] is now known as KrytenKoro
  104. [18:11:12] <DoorToNothing> Oh, he just dropped an F-bomb.
  105. [18:11:17] <DoorToNothing> For no real reason.
  106. [18:11:24] <wolf5000> BBS has japanese but KH has English?
  107. [18:12:43] <DoorToNothing> His later videos are more "explicit" with vocabulary than the earlier ones.
  108. [18:13:03] <Xion4ever> I say 'no.'
  109. [18:13:10] <wolf5000> His BBS vids sucks in how they look
  110. [18:13:12] Xion4ever [adbf2d22@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.191.45.34] has quit IRC:
  111. [18:13:17] <wolf5000> I'm with xion on this
  112. [18:13:21] <DoorToNothing> Another F -bomb.
  113. [18:13:24] <DoorToNothing> I vote nay.
  114. [18:13:31] Crono|Sleep vote's nay
  115. [18:13:42] <DoorToNothing> We're in agreement, then.
  116. [18:13:51] <DoorToNothing> I'll let him know of our decision after the roundtable.
  117. [18:13:53] <DoorToNothing> One more!
  118. [18:14:22] <DoorToNothing> http://www.khwiki.net/KHWiki_talk:Affiliates#Lets_Play
  119. [18:14:54] <Crono|Sleep> [17:57:24] <Sove> Total Upload Views:
  120. [18:14:54] <Crono|Sleep> [17:57:24] <Sove> 13,770
  121. [18:14:59] <Crono|Sleep> [17:58:18] <Sove> A quick look
  122. [18:14:59] <Crono|Sleep> [17:58:24] <Sove> No videos with over 200 views
  123. [18:15:05] <Crono|Sleep> not very popular
  124. [18:15:13] <Crono|Sleep> Crono says no until further intel
  125. [18:15:27] <Sove> We need to define popular
  126. [18:15:37] <Sove> But it's obvious that won't do it
  127. [18:15:37] <DoorToNothing> If it's a good LP, though, KHWiki will skyrocket it to Internet fame and glory.
  128. [18:15:41] <DoorToNothing> (Yes, we totally do that. )
  129. [18:15:51] <DoorToNothing> So we should check out the quality of the LP.
  130. [18:15:57] <Sove> Yeah that too
  131. [18:15:57] <DoorToNothing> I'm watching some snippets of his videos.
  132. [18:16:10] <Sove> I think it should be the popularity and quality that matters
  133. [18:16:14] <Crono|Sleep> oh, kinda random, but
  134. [18:16:17] <Crono|Sleep> how is SEIWA doing?
  135. [18:16:18] <KrytenKoro> we need to be polite to him, though
  136. [18:16:24] <Crono|Sleep> any updates since the "About" page?
  137. [18:16:26] <Sove> About SEIWA
  138. [18:16:31] <Sove> Well I found one potential problem
  139. [18:16:35] <DoorToNothing> Hold off on SEIWA.
  140. [18:16:38] <KrytenKoro> just say that the community had concerns about the language in the vids, and didn't think it was appropriate for our audience
  141. [18:16:41] <DoorToNothing> We need to finish the affiliation stuff.
  142. [18:16:43] <KrytenKoro> don't criticize him or anything
  143. [18:16:47] <DoorToNothing> Okay, Kryten. Thanks.
  144. [18:17:06] <Crono|Sleep> on his #37th vid, he sounds...um... puberty.
  145. [18:17:07] <DoorToNothing> His LP's seem fine to me, IMHO. I'm all for affiliating with TerraVoltage.
  146. [18:17:09] <Crono|Sleep> just happened to him.
  147. [18:17:10] <Sove> Well I don't think that cursing alone etc. should mean denial
  148. [18:17:15] <DoorToNothing> What Corno said.
  149. [18:17:18] <Crono|Sleep> And he referenced MJ in Neverland. ._.
  150. [18:17:28] <Crono|Sleep> "Mr. Gayman"
  151. [18:17:31] <Crono|Sleep> oloswut.
  152. [18:17:35] <Sove> hmm
  153. [18:17:38] KrytenKoro_ [[email protected]] has joined #KHWiki-noticeboard
  154. [18:17:44] <Crono|Sleep> our wiki has homosexuals. His "gay" comments =/= cool
  155. [18:17:50] <Sove> Yeah
  156. [18:18:11] <Sove> The commentary shouldn't be like that
  157. [18:18:21] <DoorToNothing> We could throw a Lance of Longinus in his request and just tell him to wait until he gets further along the road, or tell him our concerns.
  158. [18:18:29] DoorToNothing made an Evangelion allusion. WINNER.
  159. [18:18:31] <Sove> I don't mind about the language
  160. [18:18:42] <DoorToNothing> We have people who will mind the language, trust me.
  161. [18:18:54] <Sove> But cursing alone shouldn't mean denial
  162. [18:19:02] <Crono|Sleep> Crono says no for now
  163. [18:19:11] <Crono|Sleep> At least, not until he works on the gay references/language
  164. [18:19:25] <Crono|Sleep> KH is a SO PG thing, we don't want walkthroughs that are SO NOT PG
  165. [18:19:28] <wolf5000> Yea
  166. [18:19:30] <DoorToNothing> Yes.
  167. [18:19:42] <DoorToNothing> Alright. His LPing abilities are okay, it's just that little minor detail.
  168. [18:19:42] <Sove> But cursing alone shouldn't make it so not PG
  169. [18:19:48] <DoorToNothing> Alright, that settles all of the affiliation requests.
  170. [18:19:50] <DoorToNothing> HUZZAH.
  171. [18:19:57] <Sove> If it's not excessive
  172. [18:20:06] <KrytenKoro_> which one is this now?
  173. [18:20:13] <KrytenKoro_> is this the guy using homophobic slurs?
  174. [18:20:21] <DoorToNothing> Yes.
  175. [18:20:23] <DoorToNothing> I think.
  176. [18:20:25] <DoorToNothing> Probably so.
  177. [18:20:46] <Sove> The vids can be tagged with "contains minor cursing)"
  178. [18:20:50] <Sove> But gay references
  179. [18:20:59] <KrytenKoro_> If he's using homo(I dislike phobic.-ggressive?)ggressive slurs, that's simply not acceptable
  180. [18:21:01] <Chaser> he also said hitler a few time in one of his video
  181. [18:21:04] <Sove> That's a bit too much
  182. [18:21:20] <Crono|Sleep> Yeah, Crono says no on him
  183. [18:21:24] KrytenKoro [[email protected]] has quit IRC: Ping timeout: 255 seconds
  184. [18:21:34] KrytenKoro_ [[email protected]] is now known as KrytenKoro
  185. [18:21:35] <Crono|Sleep> and his BBS vids have horrible quality
  186. [18:21:36] <DoorToNothing> Alright, it's settled then.
  187. [18:21:37] <Chaser> #17 of his KH LP
  188. [18:21:41] <Crono|Sleep> It's doing terrible, terrible damage to my eyes
  189. [18:21:42] <DoorToNothing> One more point on the affiliation requests.
  190. [18:21:58] <DoorToNothing> Now that all of the requests are settled, we need to decide how to better do this in the future.
  191. [18:22:05] <KrytenKoro> Okay, seriously, who are we talking about?
  192. [18:22:08] <KrytenKoro> TerraVoltage or Joel?
  193. [18:22:14] <Crono|Sleep> TV
  194. [18:22:14] <KrytenKoro> who all LPs do we have to get through?
  195. [18:22:23] <KrytenKoro> Was TV using slurs?
  196. [18:22:35] <Crono|Sleep> yep
  197. [18:22:47] <Crono|Sleep> Hitler references, homophobic, language
  198. [18:22:59] <Chaser> TV was the one talking about hitler
  199. [18:23:23] <Sove> TV
  200. [18:23:26] <KrytenKoro> oh then yeah, tell him the "concerns about language/content" thing
  201. [18:23:28] <KrytenKoro> too
  202. [18:23:30] <Sove> What's the TV doing there
  203. [18:23:32] <KrytenKoro> tell them both that
  204. [18:23:46] <KrytenKoro> are those the only two LP candidates?
  205. [18:24:04] <Chaser> wasnt Erry gonna do one?
  206. [18:24:06] <Sove> But seriously, are you going to deny every LP candidate who uses some curse words
  207. [18:24:10] <Sove> Let's not be childish
  208. [18:24:15] <Sove> Racism is bad
  209. [18:24:19] <KrytenKoro> If they are cussing all the time, yes
  210. [18:24:30] <KrytenKoro> real cussing, not just "damn" or "crap"
  211. [18:24:51] <wolf5000> Yea
  212. [18:24:59] <Sove> We can tag the vids if there is some cursing
  213. [18:25:21] <Sove> Excessive is too much
  214. [18:25:29] <Sove> It's not enjoyable anymore
  215. [18:26:02] <Sove> But gay references...
  216. [18:26:37] <DoorToNothing> Obviously we cannot have EMERGENCY ROUNDTABLES for every single affiliation requests. Though it might be considerable to answer all of the affiliation requests at each monthly roundtable, that would be selfish of us to make our potential affiliates wait so long for an answer.
  217. [18:26:57] <DoorToNothing> The talk page could be used more if we just rewrite the affiliates page, which I am willing to do.
  218. [18:26:58] <DoorToNothing> OR.
  219. [18:27:25] <KrytenKoro> I'm just saying now, I'm going to ignore the ones on my talk page
  220. [18:27:27] <DoorToNothing> We could make a new page, like KHWiki:Affiliation Requests or KHWiki:Requests for Affiliation, and put that in the sidebar like "Affiliates" is.
  221. [18:27:34] <Crono|Sleep> ^this
  222. [18:27:41] <Crono|Sleep> I was actually just about to say that
  223. [18:27:41] <KrytenKoro> Or just do KHWiki:Affiliates/Requests
  224. [18:27:43] <Crono|Sleep> dammit Door
  225. [18:27:48] <DoorToNothing> Or what Kryten said.
  226. [18:28:04] <DoorToNothing> lolwinning @ Corno
  227. [18:28:13] <Crono|Sleep> >>;
  228. [18:28:28] <DoorToNothing> Would we rather have a whole new page, or a sub-page? Either way, it should go in the side-bar.
  229. [18:29:28] <DoorToNothing> I'm good with either.
  230. [18:30:42] <wolf5000> Sub page
  231. [18:32:03] <DoorToNothing> Crono|Sleep and Sove , thoughts?
  232. [18:32:11] <Sove> Subpage
  233. [18:33:22] <Chaser> subpage work
  234. [18:33:36] <Crono|Sleep> subpage
  235. [18:38:38] <Crono|Sleep> ...so what now?
  236. [18:38:56] <DoorToNothing> I'll create an affiliation requests page.
  237. [18:39:20] <DoorToNothing> Also, we'll need to post the logs of this as an "EMERGENCY ROUNDTABLE".
  238. [18:39:30] <DoorToNothing> Also, Sove, didn't you say something about SEIWA?
  239. [18:39:31] <Crono|Sleep> I have the logs
  240. [18:39:38] <Sove> Yes
  241. [18:39:46] <Sove> I found one possible problem :/
  242. [18:39:55] <Crono|Sleep> Want me to put them on my IRC page, DTN, or wait for this SEIWA discussion to end?
  243. [18:40:35] <Sove> While SEIWA is short for *blablabla*, we call it SEIWA
  244. [18:40:45] <Sove> Isn't it officially called that
  245. [18:40:58] <Crono|Sleep> Square Enix Independent Wiki Alliance
  246. [18:41:04] <DoorToNothing> Yes, that's the official title.
  247. [18:41:09] <Crono|Sleep> ...I'm not sure what the question here is
  248. [18:41:14] <DoorToNothing> SEIWA (Square Enix Independent Wiki Alliance_
  249. [18:41:16] <DoorToNothing> )*
  250. [18:41:20] <DoorToNothing> What Corno said.
  251. [18:41:42] <Sove> There's a company named SEIWA
  252. [18:41:49] <Sove> If they have trademarked the name
  253. [18:41:53] <Sove> we can't use it
  254. [18:42:22] <Sove> And iot probably is trademarked
  255. [18:42:23] <DoorToNothing> NIWA is the same way.
  256. [18:42:41] <DoorToNothing> There's NIWA the researching organization and NIWA the Nintendo alliance.
  257. [18:42:43] <Sove> Yup
  258. [18:43:17] <Crono|Sleep> sheisse, there are lots of SEIWAs
  259. [18:43:22] <Sove> Indeed
  260. [18:43:23] <Crono|Sleep> http://www.seiwa-marine.com/
  261. [18:43:28] <Crono|Sleep> http://www.seiwaamerica.com/
  262. [18:43:34] <Crono|Sleep> http://www.seiwa-c.co.jp/e/index.php
  263. [18:43:38] <Sove> If there are multiple, it may be a hint of non-trademark name
  264. [18:43:44] <Crono|Sleep> http://www.yachtbits.com/seiwa/
  265. [18:43:44] <DoorToNothing> There you go.
  266. [18:43:46] <DoorToNothing> So we're good.
  267. [18:43:51] <Crono|Sleep> We're not even on Google's first page. ._.
  268. [18:43:54] <Sove> But it's not certain
  269. [18:44:04] <DoorToNothing> Plus we're the "Square Enix Independent Wiki Alliance". SEIWA is just an abbreviation.
  270. [18:44:14] <Sove> yes but we use that name
  271. [18:44:21] KrytenKoro [[email protected]] has quit IRC: Ping timeout: 255 seconds
  272. [18:44:25] <DoorToNothing> Crono|Sleep: Our page isn't even completed yet, it's still a work-in-progress not officially revealed yet. So... there ya go.
  273. [18:44:28] <Sove> These things can't really be taken lightly
  274. [18:45:01] <Sove> That Seiwa you find with google is a manfufacturer
  275. [18:45:08] <Sove> Stupid typos
  276. [18:45:28] <Sove> So it's possible the other one just affiliate themselves with that manufacturer
  277. [18:45:30] <DoorToNothing> SEIWA is not our official name. "Square Enix Independent Wiki Alliance" is.
  278. [18:45:36] <Sove> I know
  279. [18:45:38] <DoorToNothing> SEIWA as an acronym is under free domain.
  280. [18:46:01] <Sove> But you make it look like the official name
  281. [18:46:13] <Sove> Companies can't really do a thing
  282. [18:46:18] <Sove> But they can always send threats
  283. [18:46:23] <Sove> Stupid
  284. [18:46:29] <DoorToNothing> And we can explain ourselves to them.
  285. [18:46:31] <Sove> But that's business nowadays
  286. [18:46:44] <DoorToNothing> Worst case scenario we have to put a new picture up on the site. "Oh no!"
  287. [18:46:48] <DoorToNothing> It'll be fine, Sove, methinks.
  288. [18:46:55] <Sove> Hopefully
  289. [18:47:14] <DoorToNothing> Anyway, Kryten and I will get the Rules page written and done by Monday, and then we can have the site all presentable and what-not.
  290. [18:47:23] <DoorToNothing> Koro and I collaborated on the About page, any feedback on that?
  291. [18:47:53] <Chaser> have faith sove, the force is with us
  292. [18:48:52] <Crono|Sleep> -_-
  293. [18:49:08] <Crono|Sleep> hey, I help'd on the About page, too!
  294. [18:49:20] <Chaser> srry I saw the movie this morning
  295. [18:49:21] <DoorToNothing> You did?
  296. [18:49:22] <Crono|Sleep> I was the first one to say we over-antagonize'd Wikia, and then everybody else said that, too
  297. [18:49:25] <DoorToNothing> Oh. Umm, Corno did.
  298. [18:49:28] <DoorToNothing> Right right.
  299. [18:49:28] <Crono|Sleep> *Crono
  300. [18:49:32] <Crono|Sleep> please stop saying Corno
  301. [18:49:35] <Sove> I told TNE I'd look for one thing, I did but I should test this thing I found >.>
  302. [18:49:42] <Sove> I have so forgotten
  303. [18:49:45] <Sove> >_<
  304. [18:50:47] <Sove> It's a future thing anyway, not bothering now
  305. [18:58:48] <DoorToNothing> Alright, then, meeting adjourned! Crono, could you post the logs in a similar fashion to what Lego does in KHWiki:Roundtable?
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