Vladgisteren om 23:21
oh
you already massively undercut XD

Quixgisteren om 23:22
I didn't undercut
i bought them cheaper

Vladgisteren om 23:22
hm

Quixgisteren om 23:22
https://i.gyazo.com/e348eb625ffab1596f4a4ca9a56be74f.png

I already did sell some and refilled
If i can make 20k profit it would be worth it
But yeah i kinda want my 5 combat classes to be like a squad setup

Vladgisteren om 23:24
....

Quixgisteren om 23:24
1 tank 1 healer 3 dps

Vladgisteren om 23:24
you're a monster with games XD

Quixgisteren om 23:25
People need to learn not to cross me

Vladgisteren om 23:25
...well vlad never learned that XD

Quixgisteren om 23:27
so one melee one range and one caster dps
I did want a fox rogue

Vladgisteren om 23:28
fox rogue/
also lvling a retainer means you need that class at that lv too
or it caps

Quixgisteren om 23:28
https://i.gyazo.com/b996293320e1de9e105560ea6f087a9a.jpg tallest in the group


Vladgisteren om 23:28
you're viera
duh Xd
altho still shorter then me
shorty ;p

Quixgisteren om 23:31
You are a lala to me

Vladgisteren om 23:31
wwwwwtf\
pfft*
ya gotta be drunk

Quixgisteren om 23:32
Be grateful you are that height

Vladgisteren om 23:32
why would I be hmm?

Quixgisteren om 23:33
Just cause
Lala's are cute

Vladgisteren om 23:33
pft
kickable you mean
and calling me a lala sized...and then calling em cute...you just indirectly called me cute...

Quixgisteren om 23:35
No lalas are cute, you are not

Vladgisteren om 23:35
pft
shall i ask jake to turn lala then if he returns?
did you actually ever decide on quixie's height psost cave escape

Quixgisteren om 23:42
I did

Vladgisteren om 23:42
oh?
do tell

Quixgisteren om 23:42
Nope spoilers

Vladgisteren om 23:43
what spoiler if it's not gonna happen/contineu

Quixgisteren om 23:43
Never know that

Vladgisteren om 23:43
pft
well Id need a quixie or freyja atleast XD
or quixi
for vlad's death

Quixgisteren om 23:45
As i said there was a plan to move things over here

Vladgisteren om 23:46
ye but then agian that depends all on jake
and so far he doesnt seem to budge yet

Quixgisteren om 23:47
Yeah well, i'm sure for a story point he'd still want it

Vladgisteren om 23:48
idk honestly
he pretty strong in the fact of not going back to ff
being burned out, not really in for the content anymore and can chat wth the folks on disc
but that might also most likely be his stubbornness atm

Quixgisteren om 23:49
I don't want to continue without him, but i can't make him change his mind.
He must care to some degree because he put Christmas stuff up

Vladgisteren om 23:50
idk honestly
lala vlad and ara back then




Quixgisteren om 23:52
I do miss him, but i don't blame him

Vladgisteren om 23:53
i mean at some points i do agree with him and at some i dont but yea
I mean that he wants to know you and more about you etc I understand, consdiering your past together
i am curious too but not to a point it'd react like he did . but then again our history together is rather different

Quixvandaag om 00:02
I should have just said nothing

Vladvandaag om 00:02
about what/when

Quixvandaag om 00:02
Just not telling him how i feel

Vladvandaag om 00:02
that honestly isnt the problem tho
the problem for him, is the fact you still wanna keep your distance and he cant take that

Quixvandaag om 00:04
Yeah i guess.

Vladvandaag om 00:05
and even still after reveling your feelings and affection and still not opening/ keeping distance
i think he has to process that and ye...altho he might not ever agree to it, but I think you kinda someone he did consider like a life partner,  But that is me purely speculating

Quixvandaag om 00:06
Oh i believe that

Vladvandaag om 00:07
the way he speaks wanting to get you out of your coccoon and safe you.   And fearing for your health with ur lifestyle.   I mean I do too but i know i cant make you change anyway

Quixvandaag om 00:08
If he wants to help me then immense me in the rp.

Vladvandaag om 00:09
that wont work for him
as is shown clearly
also you didnt do/wanna do much rp on aion, I dont think he ever really cought onto you wanting to rp in ff as you always were lvling and crafting etc

Quixvandaag om 00:09
he didn't
I'd always rp if he asked

Vladvandaag om 00:10
but did you ever ask him too?

Quixvandaag om 00:10
one rp was for him to start the other was setup
But we never did it
but you are right i should have asked.
I felt really behind him and so to catch up i grinded.

Vladvandaag om 00:12
i mean,  on aion atleast, you always relied on jake or atleast "us" to ask you
i remember jake was always a bit put off/annoyed by that in the past too

Quixvandaag om 00:13
When we started it was always rp

Vladvandaag om 00:13
back on aion or

Quixvandaag om 00:13
yes

Vladvandaag om 00:13
ye but all of aion was different
ALot of activity and alot of other people and just random story and such
I mean when taki shut down and SRP ruined a shitton of it all

Quixvandaag om 00:14
Hm i guess

Vladvandaag om 00:14
i mean the community aswell
there were like 10-15 peps on dailey

Quixvandaag om 00:15
I would have loved to rp with jake during the servers lowpoint

Vladvandaag om 00:15
if I am not mistaken it was around that time the stuff with his ex-fiance happend that left him at the altar
I didnt have contact with him or all of you for years either

Quixvandaag om 00:16
Yeah i think that was about right.

Vladvandaag om 00:17
and the grp/srp stuff when the server was ded daily, nobody rp'd either and you spend msot your attention on WoW

Quixvandaag om 00:17
For quite some time i only did srp stuff

Vladvandaag om 00:18
I mean I dont want to be an arsehole but you didnt show much interest in the rp and such honestly , as the emotes were 1 liners and flat, and barely ever wanted to rp.
I noticed that myself aswell
as you were hella obsessed with WoW...and that annoyed jake for a while too like you did wanted to discord with WoW people (guild etc) but not with us,  The fact he got you on disc is for him like a huge achievement

Quixvandaag om 00:20
yeah well as time passed the same thing happened.

Vladvandaag om 00:20
how ya mean

Quixvandaag om 00:21
I don't really talk to wow people as much these days, haven't for some time

Vladvandaag om 00:22
ye but do you understnad jake's frustation then
wow you did talk to those people but not to us while we know one an other for years
I mean, honestly, is it that bad or hard for you to open to jake?
maybe voice with him once to see how it goes, and if all goes well maybe more often?

Quixvandaag om 00:25
No and i understand the want. I'd rather not get attached.

Vladvandaag om 00:25
but why
you think really after all we went through after all these years

Quixvandaag om 00:26
Personal rreasons
*reasons

Vladvandaag om 00:26
afraid he'll leave you or harm you once you get atteched?

Quixvandaag om 00:26
Again a discussion I will not get in to.

Vladvandaag om 00:27
let me ask this then
even tho he said even if you were a dude after all irl. he'd still not mind
what worse could it be

Quixvandaag om 00:28
Vlad, i've said i do not want to discuss my personal issues and so i won't discuss it.

Vladvandaag om 00:29
yeah but that is the exact problem , that is the root of all of this mess
altho it may hurt and it might be hard for you.. it is something you  will have to overcome if you dont want to lose jake, So i think atleast
and i realized you tend to find it easier to talk with me then with jake, but if you dont wanna talk irl stuff like that with me I'd understand but Honestly ,  i think you should with jake

Quixvandaag om 00:36
I don't in general.

Vladvandaag om 00:36
yet i think you should starting soon

Quixvandaag om 00:36
Not gunna happen.

Vladvandaag om 00:37
becuase even i dont know waht to do anymore when it comes to jake and his current actions and such
i normally can lure him into coming online , or like talking and such, but ever sinse even i cant get a grasp on jake much

Quixvandaag om 00:39
I know Jake wants an ish house badly
And so even if he doesn't come on i'll try and secure it for him

Vladvandaag om 00:39
idk if he actually still cares about it
or about ff at all

Quixvandaag om 00:40
I doubt it
If Jake doesn't come back then i will likely tfer.

Vladvandaag om 00:40
tfer?

Quixvandaag om 00:40
o go wow
*or
Yes.

Vladvandaag om 00:40
what's tfer

Quixvandaag om 00:40
transfer geez.

Vladvandaag om 00:40
..and...why?

Quixvandaag om 00:41
It is always going to bother me if that is the case, i'd rather go somewhere else if Jake isn't about.

Vladvandaag om 00:42
so you're also dumping, fade, hsk,dae and me then

Quixvandaag om 00:42
Not so different huh?

Vladvandaag om 00:42
if you consider it like that
i thought atleast hsk and fade and dae meant somethin to ya too

Quixvandaag om 00:43
They do

Vladvandaag om 00:44
if you're willing to trasnfer and live us that easily or go back to wow i have my doubts on that
leave us*

Quixvandaag om 00:48
Better that than the guilt destoying me

Vladvandaag om 00:48
....and you do realize you could make the guilt disapear so easily

Quixvandaag om 00:51
By doing something i clearly don't want to.

Vladvandaag om 00:52
yeah but waht if jake put up an ultimatum, he'd disapear fully, if you still refuse for example
you're risk loosing him compleetly ?

Quixvandaag om 00:53
I'm Stubbon, what do you think?
*stubborn

Vladvandaag om 00:53
well..considering how fond you are of jake and all...I'd have said you'd step over it
and opend to him
but if you rather loose him then open up it makes me kinda doubt the level of wich you actually care , and dont take this offensive but ,  really just dont understand

Quixvandaag om 00:58
Because i don't intend to tell you.
Jake not logging and me transferring really is little difference tbh

Vladvandaag om 00:59
sigh
your stubbornesss knows no bounds does it

Quixvandaag om 01:02
Yep highest rank.

Vladvandaag om 01:04
i wonder when you'll start cursing your stubborness before or after you lose jake

Quixvandaag om 01:05
I've come to learn people come and go

Vladvandaag om 01:05
... people dont all come and go, some want to stay, jake, me , hsk and dae for example..but you're not letting us..

Quixvandaag om 01:06
Hsk, dae and you aer fine with it

Vladvandaag om 01:07
we accept it.  becuase we're not as close as you and jake are
for me you're a friend, a dear friend, but non the less just an internetfriend who never let us get close
you and jake is a diff story
you dont want to lose people , and build yourself a wall , and saying people come and go, .....but it's because of that wall you build yourself that people come and go and dont stick around, becuase you wont let em
i mean, just for an example how you'd feel if jake threated you like that,  you knew he felt horrible and struggles with stuff.  you try your best to help him and to connect and all they do is shut you out even more and build more walls

Quixvandaag om 01:16
Jake Gave me an ultimatum, something i wasn't comfortable with.

Vladvandaag om 01:16
he hasnt given an ultimatium
as he is still around and willing to talk

Quixvandaag om 01:16
He wanted to know my answer on the spot

Vladvandaag om 01:16
what he has done is open up and talk for the first time in 7 years.
he has been dealing with this for   7 years.
he never opend up or spoke about it out of concern for you
knowing you hated it and didnt want it

Quixvandaag om 01:17
And yet he did it anyways.

Vladvandaag om 01:17
so he kept it pent up inside , building up over the years
because he hit his limit he couuldnt anymore.   the fact he held out for 7 years is astonisching

Quixvandaag om 01:17
So guilt, it is consuming

Vladvandaag om 01:18
I'd have cracked withtin a few months if I were him

Quixvandaag om 01:18
I don't want the pressure, the stress i can't handle it.

Vladvandaag om 01:20
yeah but dont you also think it's a bit egocentric then to force everyone to addapt to you.   force jake to keep his mouth shut, keep ever penting up his feelings and frustrations and what not just to please you?

Quixvandaag om 01:21
Better than the alternative

Vladvandaag om 01:21
..
sorry but clearly you dont care as much about jake and feel guilty as you say
becuase if you rather he feels shit and keeps ever stacking his shit and feelings  and not talk ., -just to please you-  that's horribly egocentric if you ask me

Quixvandaag om 01:23
I never said i feel good about him feeling like shit, i'd rather only feel shit myself than have it effect him.

Vladvandaag om 01:24
and yet you dont open up
as that would , as you seem to think, make you feel shit, and he wouldn't / feel alot less shit

Quixvandaag om 01:24
Once again, you pressuring me to do something i don't want.

Vladvandaag om 01:25
sometimes we gotta do things in life we dont want to do
nobody likes work
yet we gotta do it
nobody likes to pay tax...yet we do it
nobody wants friends or fam to die...yet people still die
the world doesnt work like that, and even if you dedicate your life to the online world and your games....you cannot escape reality .

Quixvandaag om 01:26
Shut up.

Vladvandaag om 01:27
quxie..i will shut up after this, But you're an adult not a kid,  face it, reality cannot be escaped,  ever.

Quixvandaag om 01:28
Then my life is over.