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Pup Retaliate Strats

Jun 3rd, 2020
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  1. Retaliate = 0.5s faster than using Take Down
  2.  
  3. Allows 1 shot on whirlipede at +3 or 2 shot leavanny at +1
  4.  
  5. Eliminates recoil and miss chance on Bianca 3 and Cheren 4 fights
  6.  
  7. Makes cheren's liepard guaranteed rather than 87% range
  8.  
  9. Allows for safer 2 turn Nimbasa grunt strat
  10.  
  11. Allows for saving more returns in midgame to save text later (0.3s per SE textbox saved, saves 10 returns if used well)
  12.  
  13. Candy before sandiles gives:
  14.  
  15. - Eliminates 75% ranges on sandiles on castelia grunt
  16. - 24 for whirlipede so can crunch x2 at +1 or +3 crunch can ohko dwebble
  17. - 28 for scraggy anmd extra friendship on N2 which means +1 return always kills instead of being a 50% range
  18. - 31 for zebstrika (assuming kill both emolgas first)
  19.  
  20. - not 32 for cheren so need to x attack on that fight (same turns just 2s slower and can't para heal in fight plus money loss + buying x attack timesloss (~2s)
  21.  
  22. - not 42 for swoobat in skylas gym so no longer speed tie and can get flinched by air slash/attracted
  23.  
  24. Timings:
  25.  
  26. Uses: -1.5s
  27. Liepard Range: -0.2s
  28. Burgh Turn: -5+ s
  29. N turn: -6s
  30. No 2nd Retaliate level up: -6s
  31. PP SE text saves later: -1.5s
  32. Better castelia grunts: ~ -2s
  33. Better Nimbasa grunt: ~ -3s
  34.  
  35. Teach: +11.3sTeach: +11.3s
  36. Herdier for Cheren: +8s
  37. No speedtie on Swoobat: +3s
  38.  
  39. Total: ~ -24s, +22s total: -2s and more consistent + safer burgh, ignores high chance of saving a heal menu on route 4 (-6-10s) and possibly multiple heals on burgh + chances to miss take down on route 4 rivals
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  41. CASTELIA CITY
  42. - Run to gym then to Pier then Back to the office.
  43. - Grunt: Tackle, Tackle
  44.  
  45. - Harlequin 1: Tackle + Tackle, Take Down (11 Recoil)
  46. - Harlequin 2: Take Down (11 Recoil), Tackle x2
  47.  
  48. - Heal to full, teach Retaliate over Tackle
  49.  
  50. - Burgh: ???? still need to work out best strat with 24 here
  51.  
  52. > Poison Tail does 10-12 (13) {crit does 22-25 (27)
  53. > Dwebble does 9-10 (12)
  54. > Leavanny Does 22-25 (27) with Razor Leaf {crit does 45-54 (54)0}
  55.  
  56. Repel + Heal Before gate if needed.
  57.  
  58. ROUTE 4
  59. - Bianca: Work Up x2, Crunch (87.5% range if he didn't TD), Retaliate, Crunch, Crunch
  60. > Herdier does 16-19 (21)
  61.  
  62. - Cheren: Work Up, Crunch, Crunch, Retaliate, Retaliate
  63. > Sand does not hit you due to Sand Rush
  64. > Pidove does 16-19 (21) with crit Quick Attack
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  66. NIMBASA CITY
  67. - Grunt: Take Down (12 recoil), Retaliate
  68. - Run to the Center
  69. - PC Heal and withdraw Pidove only
  70. - Buy 6 Hypers, 4 Para Heals and Return
  71.  
  72. - Exit Center, open menu, teach Return over Take Down, Register Bike and unregister items, get on Bike.
  73.  
  74. - N: Work Up, Return, Return, Return, Crunch
  75.  
  76. NIMBASA GYM
  77. - Lady: Work Up, Return, Return
  78. - Rich Boy: Return
  79. - Rich Boy: Return x2
  80. - Lady: Work Up, Return
  81.  
  82. - Heal to full and use Rare Candy to get to level 31.
  83.  
  84. - Elesa: X Speed, Work Up, Return x3
  85. > Emolga does 21-24 (25) with Volt Switch [QA does 7-8 (9)]
  86. > Zebstrika does 27-31 (33) with Spark
  87. > Zebstrika does 11-13 (14 with Quick Attack)
  88.  
  89. ROUTE 5
  90. - Cheren: X Attack, Return, Retaliate, Return, Retaliate
  91. > Quick Attack does 10-12 (13)
  92.  
  93. - Kids: Work Up, Return x2 (Left one is Mild Right one is Hardy)
  94.  
  95. COLD STORAGE
  96. - Get PP UP in Trash Can to the right of the Narrow Gap at the Entrance.
  97. - Do Grunts in order such as that 1-4 is from Left to Right: 1, 4, 3, 2
  98. - Grunt 1: Retaliate x2
  99. - Grunt 4: Retaliate x2
  100. - Grunt 3: Crunch
  101. - Grunt 2: Retaliate
  102.  
  103. DRIFTVEIL GYM
  104. - Worker 1: Return, Return
  105. - Worker 2: Return
  106. - Clerk Katie: Return
  107.  
  108. - Clay: Return, Work Up, Return, Return x2
  109.  
  110. - Shop: Buy 11 Supers (R1, U3) and max Max Repels (R2 U1)
  111.  
  112. ROUTE 6
  113. - Bianca: Work Up, Return, Return, Crunch , Crunch (13/16 range)
  114. > Herdier does 18-21 (22)
  115. > Musharna does 16-19 (21)
  116.  
  117. - Max Repel
  118. - Get the Elixir to the South in the Grass.
  119.  
  120. CHARGESTONE CAVE
  121. - Give Lucky Egg + Max Repel, Elixir (Hyper if needed to survive on N), Teach Fly to Pidove
  122.  
  123. - Get the Elixir before the guy
  124.  
  125. - Grunt 1: Retaliate, Return, Return
  126. - Grunt 2: Return
  127. - Grunt 3: Return, Return
  128. - Grunt 4: Crunch, Crunch, Crunch
  129. - Grunt 5: Return, Retaliate
  130. - Grunt 6: Return
  131. - Grunt 7: Retaliate, Retaliate
  132. - N: Crunch + Work Up + Crunch, Work Up + Crunch, Return (Iron Barbs does 16), Return
  133.  
  134. CELESTIAL TOWER
  135. - Psychic: Crunch, Retaliate, Crunch
  136. - Run to the top, Ring the Bell
  137. - Teach Fly and use it.
  138.  
  139. MISTRALTON CITY
  140. - Worker: Return, Return
  141. - Pilot: Return, Crunch
  142. - Pilot: Return (Crunch)
  143. - Teach Reversal over Retaliate
  144. - When you run low on Returns, Elixir and PP UP Return (don't heal unless 43- HP, in which case Super Potion)
  145. - Worker: Crunch (Slower than Swoobat)
  146.  
  147. - Super Potion if Below 43
  148. - Skyla: Work Up, Crunch, Return, Return
  149. > Swoobat does 24-27 (28) with Acrobatics
  150. > Unfezant does 15-16 (18) with Quick Attack
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