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april 2022 routing notes

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  1. here are all the notes i took while routing any% NMG after the discovery of remains escape or whatever it will be called in the future.
  2.  
  3. EDIT (5/12/2022) dumping timings for the newer routes (with double GBT GIM) at the top here.
  4.  
  5. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  6.  
  7. easier new route vs WR route
  8.  
  9. milk trip +28
  10. twin islands superslide into ESS -1.3
  11. movement to ZC / TCS / PCS -27.6
  12. stick before WFT -2.8
  13. woods 2nd HESS -1.5
  14. woods grotto detour +40
  15. PF instead of PR +116
  16. snowhead temple (excluding song storage and goht fight) -82
  17. remains escapes comparison -47.2
  18. SHT song storage adjustment -1.5
  19. bomb shop trip -51.1
  20. flip stone tower -171.4
  21. chu crap -13.0
  22. death armos +2.6
  23. GBT GIMs detour +113.68
  24. GBT song storage adjustment -1.0
  25. dive up after gyorg -1.9
  26. soar to clock town +21.5
  27. enter clock tower +0.6
  28. overall (without pauses) = -80
  29.  
  30. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  31.  
  32.  
  33.  
  34. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  35.  
  36. FINAL TIMING CURRENT ROUTE VS THEORY ROUTE:
  37.  
  38. current timeloss:
  39. cycle 3 bomb shop trip 50
  40. song storages + resets vs. remains escapes 47.16
  41. chu crap 13.2
  42. no action swap 13.9
  43. wizrobe 8.9
  44. ice stairs 0.5
  45. stt first room 0.4
  46. mirror room hovers 9.2
  47. garo master 0.2
  48. get on turtle 1 10.8
  49. get on turtle 2 12.6
  50.  
  51. theory timeloss:
  52. hookshot detour 114.83
  53. extra soar to clock town 21.5
  54. bank clip 2.9
  55. grotto 2.3
  56. woods 2.3
  57. movement to hookshot 0.2
  58. clam hit 0.8
  59. wolfos hit 1.0
  60. 2nd highest floor +2.1
  61. bomb timestop 3.0
  62. slash a nejiron 2.1
  63. updraft room 0.4
  64. death armos 5.7
  65. bomb drop after GBT 2.9
  66. clock tower 4.5
  67. moon superslide 0.7
  68.  
  69. total: less than a second in favor of theory lmao
  70.  
  71. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  72.  
  73. intermediate route vs WR route comparison
  74.  
  75. twin islands superslide into ESS -1.3
  76. woods 2nd hess -1.5
  77. hookshot detour +114.83
  78. action swap -12.6
  79. song storage -1.5
  80. to snowball bridge -3.5
  81. remains escapes comparison -47.2
  82. bomb shop trip -51.1
  83. stt 1st room +0.4
  84. nejiron room -5.0
  85. updraft room -1.6
  86. chu crap -13.0
  87. death armos +2.6
  88. TCS + PCS -27.6
  89. clock tower hovers +2.8
  90. soar +21.5
  91.  
  92. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  93.  
  94. PF (late with bow) vs PF (early without bow) vs PR
  95.  
  96. gain control at owl (human) to gain control outside in PF: 25.67
  97. gain control outside in PF to gain control inside in PF: 68.35
  98. gain control inside in PF to gain control in hive room: 28.09
  99. gain control in hive room to ocarina pull (zora): 49.27
  100. drink potion: 4.84
  101. PF (late with bow) total = 176.22
  102.  
  103. gain control at grave (human) to gain control outside in PF: 26.46
  104. gain control outside in PF to gain control inside in PF: 68.35
  105. gain control inside in PF to gain control in hive room: 28.09
  106. to ocarina pull (zora): 67.95
  107. drink potion: 4.84
  108. faster woodfall adjustment: -8.41
  109. no zora hall early adjustment: 9.0
  110. skip a soar to great bay: -21.50
  111. early bottle adjustment: 16
  112. PF (early without bow) total = 190.78
  113.  
  114. gain control at owl (human) to gain control in PR: 17.65
  115. gain control in PR to ocarina pull (zora): 42.05
  116. better dive adjustment: -1.5
  117. extra potion drinking time: 3.19
  118. PR total = 61.39
  119.  
  120. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  121.  
  122. zora hall early or no (not counting around 1s to set zora hall map point)
  123.  
  124. ZORA HALL EARLY
  125. gain control at grave to gain control in zora hall: 36.93
  126. gain control at zora cape owl to gain control in zora hall: 24.18
  127. total = 61.11
  128.  
  129. NO ZORA HALL EARLY
  130. gain control at great bay owl to gain control in zora hall: 70.10
  131.  
  132. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  133.  
  134. woodfall with vs without hookshot (no SoDT)
  135.  
  136. WITH
  137. gain control in WFT to gain control on torch: 19.45
  138.  
  139. WITHOUT
  140. gain control in WFT to gain control on torch: 27.86
  141.  
  142. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  143.  
  144. bottle after song of soaring vs bottle after woodfall temple
  145.  
  146. early bottle: 100.42
  147.  
  148. late bottle: 72.41 + 12 for SoDT in WFT = 84.41
  149.  
  150. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  151.  
  152. LA GIM VS LA skip vs garo master (ignoring explosive count differences)
  153.  
  154. 1. enter stt, melt block, do gim, exit stt, flip with LA shot = 88.01
  155. -gain control at owl, get bombs&arrows, 1b timestop, gain control in stt: 31.80
  156. -gain control in stt to gain control in GIM room (no bomb): 7.93
  157. -gain control, GIM, then back through 1st room to gain control outside (no bomb): 45.18
  158. -gain control outside to flip stt with LA: 3.10
  159. -milk detour: ~45
  160. -woods shenanigans* detour: 57.5
  161. total = ~190.51
  162.  
  163. 2. equip dupes, flip stt with spring water = <67
  164. -equip dupe instead of equip swap: ~10
  165. -gain control at owl (get bombs&arrows) to flip stt with spring water: <57
  166.  
  167. 3. regular segment from owl to flip STT after garo master = ~168
  168.  
  169. *woods shenanigans:
  170. drink potion [need to route in damage past here]
  171. equip swap bow over ocarina, bottle over bow
  172. get stick, nut, rupees
  173. exit grotto and woods
  174. catch spring water in bowbottle, ESS dupe over nuts, OI to soar
  175.  
  176. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  177.  
  178. BREMEN VS OCA GIM (assuming LA skip) (timing this was unnecessary but i didn't know about equip dupe)
  179.  
  180. 1.get bremen mask (1 bomb saved from guard recoil), no monkey text skip, carry mikau, get stick before wf, catch fairy and dupe bottle outside lab after pf: ~68.25
  181.  
  182. a. get bremen mask = 35.24:
  183. -gain control outside bomb shop to enter grotto with bremen black screen: 1:03.38
  184. -day transition: 3.20
  185. -reading a sign to bring up the text: cancels out nopp suboptimal movement?
  186. = 66.58
  187. vs.
  188. -gain control outside bomb shop to gain control outside WCT: 16.68
  189. -gain control outside WCT to touching corner of ground texture: 5.98
  190. touching corner to enter grotto without bremen black screen: 8.68
  191. = 31.34
  192.  
  193. b. no monkey text skip = ~10s?
  194.  
  195. c. carry mikau = 5.01
  196. -shadow passes rock underwater to pull ocarina to play song of healing after SoDT: 25.79
  197. -same for carrying: 30.80
  198.  
  199. d. get stick before WFT = ~3s
  200.  
  201.  
  202. e. catch fairy and dupe bottle outside lab = ~15s:
  203. -~5s round trip behind the lab
  204. -~10s dupe over bremen
  205.  
  206.  
  207. 2.detour to GIM ocarina before learning NWBN: obvious from bad video that this is faster than 68 seconds
  208.  
  209. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  210.  
  211. Now obsolete intermediate route that resulted from this timing:
  212.  
  213. 1st cycle - milk road and 60r
  214. ECT chest, buy bombs and chus
  215. 20b10c
  216. ISG from banker, withdraw rupees, hidden owl
  217. 19b0c
  218. refill chus with 2 for 1
  219. 19b20c
  220. recoil past guard
  221. 18b20c
  222. HESS to grotto
  223. 17b20c
  224. grotto [could put bomb hovers here]
  225. 13b15c
  226. palace hovers [could use or save 1 chu]
  227. 10b14c
  228. sonata, song of soaring
  229. mountain village bomb drop and superslide
  230. 14b14c
  231. twin islands
  232. 12b14c
  233. goron village
  234. 17b14c
  235. SoDT to night 1 for mikau CS skip
  236. superslide to zora cape
  237. 16b14c
  238. recoil into superswim to zora hall
  239. 15b14c
  240. get stick outside WFT
  241. SoDT to day 2 in WFT
  242. land on torch
  243. 13b14c
  244. dinolfos fight for bow
  245. pillar hovers
  246. 11b12c
  247. megas for bk skip
  248. 8b10c
  249. odolwa fight
  250.  
  251. zora hess through swamp
  252. 7b10c
  253. hess to witch
  254. 6b10c
  255. hess back to other witch
  256. 5b10c
  257. recoil flip into superswim to PF
  258. 4b10c
  259. enter PF
  260. 1b10c
  261. shoot hive with bow from top floor
  262. get hookshot
  263. get hit by clam and get egg (0.5 damage)
  264. snowhead bomb drop, lullaby skip
  265. 5b10c
  266. action swap, icicle bomb drop
  267. 10b10c
  268. get hit by wolfos, melt ice (1 damage)
  269. hookshot up
  270. long jumps to wizrobe (1 damage)
  271. 8b10c
  272. wizrobe fight with broken stick
  273. hookshot up twice
  274. hovers + mega to snowball bridge
  275. 6b9c
  276. superslide past snowballs
  277. 5b9c
  278. cross the top level gap [could change this]
  279. 4b7c
  280. BK skip
  281. 3b7c
  282. goht fight
  283. ISoT remains escape
  284. 2b7c
  285.  
  286. stone tower bomb drop, bomb timestop to enter STT
  287. 6b7c
  288. block clip into superswim to key
  289. 5b7c
  290. jump slash recoil superswim back
  291. weirdshot to nejiron bomb drop
  292. 9b7c
  293. weirdshot to fire chest (0.5 damage)
  294. 8b7c
  295. garo master fight - get hit twice (2 damage)
  296. death warp
  297. 7b7c
  298. flip STT
  299. ISTT long jump to death armos (0.5 damage)
  300. 6b7c
  301. get owned by death armos twice (2 damage)
  302. BK skip
  303. 3b3c
  304. twinmold fight on half a heart monkaS !!!!
  305. ISoT remains escape
  306. 2b3c
  307.  
  308. nwbn - egg dupes over light arrow
  309. bomb drop, TCS with load zone
  310. 7b3c
  311. PCS with SoDT to night 2
  312. clip and recoil BK skip
  313. 5b3c
  314. weirdshot gyorg
  315. 4b3c
  316. gyorg fight (2.5 damage)
  317. ISoT remains escape
  318. 3b3c
  319.  
  320. hover into clock tower
  321. 2b0c
  322. superslide to majora
  323. 1b0c
  324.  
  325. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  326.  
  327. now obsolete expert route that resulted from this timing:
  328.  
  329. 1st cycle - milk road and try for 90r
  330. [- oca -]
  331. ECT chest if needed, buy bombs and chus
  332. 20b10c
  333. [bombs oca chus]
  334. bank clip
  335. 14b10c
  336. song storage for monkey text skip
  337. 13b10c
  338. recoil past guard
  339. 12b10c
  340. HESS to grotto
  341. 11b10c
  342. grotto
  343. 8b7c
  344. palace hovers
  345. 4b7c
  346. [bombs oca deku + stored song]
  347. sonata with monkey text skip, song of soaring
  348. [deku palace map point]
  349. mountain village bomb drop and superslide
  350. 8b7c
  351. twin islands
  352. 7b7c
  353. goron village
  354. 12b7c
  355. lab bomb drop, recoil to mikau
  356. 16b7c
  357. SoDT to night 1 for mikau CS skip
  358. superslide to zora cape
  359. 15b7c
  360. recoil into superswim to zora hall
  361. [zora oca deku]
  362. 14b7c
  363. [snowhead map point]
  364. get stick outside WFT
  365. SoDT to day 2 in WFT
  366. [zora bombs chus]
  367. land on torch
  368. 12b7c
  369. dinolfos fight for bow
  370. pillar hovers (could theoretically spend 1b to save 1c here)
  371. 10b6c
  372. bk skip (theory to save 1b and time here)
  373. 6b5c
  374. odolwa fight
  375.  
  376. zora hess through swamp
  377. 5b5c
  378. hess to witch
  379. 4b5c
  380. roll to other witch (could spend 1b to HESS here)
  381. [oca bombs bow]
  382. recoil flip into superswim to PF
  383. [zora bombs bow]
  384. 3b5c
  385. enter PF (theory to HESS in PF)
  386. 0b5c
  387. hookshot
  388. [zora hook bottle + milk road map point]
  389. get hit by clam and get egg (0.5 damage)
  390. snowhead bomb drop, lullaby skip
  391. 4b5c
  392. [bombs hook stick]
  393. action swap, icicle bomb drop
  394. 9b5c
  395. get hit by wolfos, melt ice (1 damage)
  396. hookshot up
  397. long jumps to wizrobe (1 damage)
  398. 7b5c
  399. wizrobe fight with broken stick
  400. hookshot up twice
  401. [bombs fire chus]
  402. megas to snowball bridge
  403. 4b5c
  404. HESS past snowballs
  405. 3b5c
  406. cross the top level gap
  407. 2b4c
  408. BK skip
  409. 1b4c
  410. goht fight
  411. ISoT remains escape
  412. [bombs hook oca]
  413. 0b4c
  414.  
  415. [goron village map point]
  416. stone tower bomb drop, bomb timestop to enter STT
  417. 5b4c
  418. superslide through first room (could save 1b here)
  419. 4b4c
  420. [bombs hook zora]
  421. block clip into superswim to key
  422. 3b4c
  423. jump slash recoil superswim back
  424. weirdshot to nejiron bomb drop
  425. 7b4c
  426. weirdshot to fire chest (0.5 damage)
  427. 6b4c
  428. [bombs fire chus]
  429. garo master fight - get hit twice (2 damage)
  430. death warp
  431. 5b4c
  432. [bombs light chus]
  433. flip STT
  434. ISTT long jump to death armos (0.5 damage)
  435. 4b4c
  436. get owned by death armos twice (2 damage)
  437. BK skip
  438. [bombs fire hook]
  439. 1b1c
  440. twinmold fight on half a heart monkaS !!!!
  441. [bombs oca hook]
  442. ISoT remains escape
  443. 0b1c
  444.  
  445. nwbn - egg dupes over light arrow
  446. [egg(light) oca hook] x6
  447. [egg oca zora + zora hall map point]
  448. bomb drop, TCS with load zone
  449. [hook oca zora + TCS buffers]
  450. 5b1c
  451. PCS with SoDT to night 2
  452. [bombs bow zora]
  453. clip and recoil BK skip
  454. 4b1c
  455. weirdshot then superswim to gyorg (could save 1b here)
  456. 2b1c
  457. gyorg fight (2.5 damage)
  458. [bombs oca hook]
  459. ISoT remains escape
  460. 1b1c
  461.  
  462. [bombs oca chus + woodfall map point]
  463. bomb drop outside GBT
  464. 6b1c
  465. hover into clock tower
  466. 3b0c
  467. superslide to majora
  468. 2b0c
  469. [bombs fire zora]
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