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prism cyndaquil skip

Feb 8th, 2025
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  1. pros: skip 6 optional trainers
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  3. cons: need to catch 2 extra pokemon (fire type, and cut)
  4. Multiple levels lower for fire gym (lose several turns, but fights aren't as scary as expected)
  5. Can't switch to cyndaquil against pineco (risk self destruct)
  6. Evolve 2 fights later in Mound cave (lose several turns, and need more healing)
  7. Lose time in other fights later in the run probably, difficult to know how much without more routing
  8. Probably don't get rollout for Rinji, so need alternate strat there
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  10. timings: (very rough for now)
  11. cyndaquil detour - 4:38 in my pb (good fights, some execution errors)
  12. bird keeper optional - 0:39 in my pb (missed doubleslap range on pidgey)
  13. total time fighting optionals - 5:17
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  15. catch 2 extra pokemon - 0:27 each (yoloball catch)
  16. total timeloss to extra catches - 0:54 (probably more, yoloball not optimal)
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  18. fire gym (late) - 2:46 (1 useful crit, some menuing errors)
  19. fire gym (early) - 4:08 (no heal after first fight, 2 heals in 2nd fight)
  20. total timeloss to fire gym - 1:22 (maybe a little less on average)
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  22. extra turn against bellsprout - 0:05 (assuming leech life)
  23. bug catcher timeloss - 0:34 in pb, 0:36 with 4 tackle rollout fight (includes sing learn, but that happens somewhere else in pb)
  24. total timeloss on this route - 0:07 with good fights, +0:33 for center detour, +0:04ish for each protect turn
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  26. rival 2 has 1 extra slap against paras, 1 extra slap against bagon, potentially outsped by bagon - 0:10 ish, plus extra damage, flinch chance etc.
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  28. lost 3 minutes up to this point
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  30. black power ranger:
  31. low exp fight - 1:32 (no heals, lots of missed sand attacks from eevee, learn future sight)
  32. high exp fight - 1:00 (literally perfect fight)
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  34. blue power ranger:
  35. low exp fight - 1:41 (switch to larvitar+2 heals, confusion hit on tenta, but 2hko)
  36. high exp fight - 0:52 (5 turn fight)
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  38. green power ranger:
  39. low exp fight - 1:24 (switch nd heal against eevee)
  40. high exp fight - 0:50 (5 turn fight)
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  42. Have lost all timesave here, and there's still more to go
  43. Probably better in TAS, where eevee just misses sing all the time, but not great here
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  45. Swapping the fire gym with getting Cyndaquil:
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  47. late cyndaquil detour - 3:38 (good fights)
  48. so late cyndaquil loses ~20 seconds assuming good fights all round
  49. I think pb had above average fights, but so did the late cyndaquil test run, so i guess it's slower
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