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[10:44:41 PM] ___: I can live with torches going out as long as all of
              my previously set torches become lanterns.
[10:45:13 PM] DC: but I want the stuf that could destroy your
              structures or make it a necessity to design everything
              one way and not leave it open to creativity without
              making it easier to destroy... and the issue where you
              have to use lanterns to have permanant light, which
              might limit creativity again because you might like
              torches' looks or lighting affects
[10:45:18 PM] DC: that should all be optional
[10:45:29 PM] DC: as well as things that make it more difficult
[10:45:43 PM] DC: making those option makes a fully customizable
              difficulty system
[10:45:56 PM] DC: from setting the number of enemies to how lgiht
              works
**[10:46:34 PM] ___: Indeed, just sucks a lot of the people that were
              going to sign up on the forums and complain are doing it
              wrong.
[10:46:54 PM] DC: I don't like that enemies will spawn in deeper areas
              even if lit... that's kinda dumb, because it makes no
              sense if you dig YOUR OWN mineshaft with no way to get
              to it but inside your own base, and then monsters just
              magically appear in it
**[10:46:56 PM] ___: They are going the "If you change this we'll mass
              pirate and distribute it so you make no money." route.
              -_-
[10:47:03 PM] DC: not to mention the reasoning behind it...
[10:47:14 PM] DC: torch spamming in dungeons to make them safe... well
              no shit
[10:47:31 PM] DC: If you already explored it and did the danger, your
              reward is that it should be safe of it lit it
[10:48:11 PM] DC: Tell them that notch doesn't care about the pirating
              and stuff thing, because he sees it as a win in the long
              run
**[10:48:45 PM] ___: Some have claimed they will just attack and detroy
              his site and wiki ._.;
[10:48:48 PM] DC: Notch has an entire page up about his thoughts on
              people pirating... what's more, a bunch of features that
              need the servers won't work
**[10:48:52 PM] ___: DDOS the fuck out of it.
[10:49:07 PM] DC: That would be stupid and and wouldn't encourage him
              to change it
[10:49:19 PM] ___: If anything... Wouldn't that encourage him to you
              know... Stop?
[10:49:25 PM] DC: It would probably encourage him to be MORE of an
              asshole or leave it unfunshed
[10:50:15 PM] DC: All they have to do is go to the forum and ask for
              those things to be optional so people can make the game
              as sandbox or difficult as they want
[10:50:18 PM] ___: "Well thanks to the assholes that destroyed all of
              my hard work, wiki, and caused a massive server hardware
              failure I lost a good portion of development. I am sorry
              but this is the end of Minecraft. You can thank the
              assholes who ruined for you. Well you win guys what now?
              Feel proud.
[10:50:25 PM] ___: I would hate the world if I read that.
[10:51:06 PM] DC: Anything that changes the level of difficulty in
              major ways should be optional
[10:51:13 PM] DC: similar things should be grouped
[10:51:34 PM] DC: things involving the landscaping shouldn't need
              touched...
[10:51:52 PM] DC: because those are all avoidable obstacles, like
              lava, water, and planned quicksand
[10:52:42 PM] DC: natural disasters... he's thinking about that, and
              that would be stupid to people that don't want to come
              back to theri place destroyed, and be forced into
              building nothing but solid rock ugly structures that
              provide no incentive to make them look good
[10:52:51 PM] ___: *nods* Yeah.
[10:52:56 PM] DC: so make it optional
[10:53:20 PM] DC: Notch can make an entire menu of game options for
              those things that's easy to reach
[10:53:57 PM] DC: Noone could possibly complain, because they can
              decide exactly how much annoyance and difficulty they
              want in their own world
[10:54:03 PM] DC: and choose when to have it
[10:54:14 PM] ___: Just; yeah.
[10:54:42 PM] DC: It would work out perfectly for people, that see
              much possibility in how they can go about expanding
              their infinite world and finidng new things to create
              out of it
[10:55:14 PM] DC: When they feel like fighting monsters and having
              challenges, they can simply turn those options on and
              get ready
[10:55:31 PM] DC: let everyone play their own way
[10:57:01 PM] DC: I need to make a correction out of being ticked off
              when i said we buyers essentially became the boss... I
              meant it more like, we buyers bought it because we liked
              what we saw, not because of what soeone else wants to
              put into it by taking it from other games they could
              just go play
[10:57:39 PM] DC: he should make the game able to continue to be the
              way it works now, how we boguht it, because that's what
              we bought it for
[10:58:23 PM] DC: take this to those people
[10:59:38 PM] DC: and tell them that DDOSing and pirating... he
              doesn't care about the pirating, and DDOSing would just
              make him stop taking any suggestions... so instead of
              there being a possibility to change it, as nothing is
              permanent, it isn't even beta yet, and will continue
              being developed as long as he's making money from it...
[11:00:18 PM] DC: instead, he'll just make it however he wants and not
              let anyone comment, and it'll instantly turn a game that
              has massive potential into shit
[11:00:27 PM] DC: it's not worth throwing it all away
[11:00:43 PM] DC: if anything, there will be mods to change those
              things yourself
[11:00:51 PM] DC: patches
[11:01:21 PM] DC: What they need to do is simply go to the forum and
              get together, get their friends, and express it, and ask
              for things to be optional
[11:02:09 PM] DC: I'm going to make a thread soon about a different
              options system and makeing a game option thing and have
              a lit of certain things that are optional and why, and
              what shouldn't be and why, and things that should be
              stacked as the same oiption and why
[11:07:16 PM] DC: also...
[11:08:16 PM] DC: notch is an understandable guy and will hear people
              out, not just do things because he wants it his way...
              go read all hesays about stuff
[11:08:33 PM] DC: most suggestions of things to add were by other
              people
[11:08:36 PM] ___: *nods...*
[11:08:40 PM] DC: say that, too
[11:10:06 PM] DC: the only thing that needs added to work for everyone
              is optional danger... any major thing that afects the
              sandboxing, building, creativity, and necessity to have
              should have an option