On Strategy and Tactics...

[08:58:08] <sineporf> standardizing and developing community language? well, i'm pretty sure he's responsible for 'strat' becoming so popular, which i abhor.
[08:58:29] <seancass> i dont think it was he who coined the term
[08:58:33] <i_smoke_meth_daily_69> zelda is plush
[08:58:36] <kaennimodo> abhor is a worse word than strat
[08:58:42] <i_smoke_meth_daily_69> would plow
[08:58:44] <seancass> that term has been around since quake + doom
[08:58:45] <i_smoke_meth_daily_69> 10/10
[08:58:46] <sineporf> yeah, but he's responsible for it becoming popular
[08:59:13] <zappa__> whats wrong with strat
[08:59:20] <seancass> so you moreso mean "yo the strats!"
[08:59:23] <arsehole_______________> why are u talk about man with vagina here??
[08:59:26] <seancass> and not talking about a particular strat
[08:59:32] <sineporf> Don't like it. it's aesthetically displeasing to me.
[08:59:36] <seancass> o
[08:59:51] <sineporf> you're butchering the perfectly decent word 'strategy'.
[09:00:01] <seancass> which is way longer to say
[09:00:05] <sineporf> of course.
[09:00:10] <zappa__> gotta talk fast
[09:00:33] <apasher17> too many buttons to push on the keyboard
[09:00:40] <seancass> like.. if i was watching someone do a puzzle, i may ask them what their strategy is going into it
[09:00:42] <poor_little_pinkus> what's wrong with strat is that ppl usually mean tactic. strategy is supposed to be composed of multiple tactics to reach a bigger goal.
[09:00:47] <apasher17> speedrunners already push enough buttons
[09:01:05] <sineporf> strategy can refer to a single mode of operation.
[09:01:07] <seancass> which wouldnt connotate "is he asking me every single strat i'm going to use?" lol
[09:01:20] <seancass> right, so the overarching idea, in this sense
[09:01:27] <rambly> strat also kinda has like, a slightly subtly different meaning i think? like it almost kinda implies ... actually i'm just reiterating what sean and pinkus are saying lol
[09:01:32] <@nicholas_likes_sleep> NERDS!
[09:01:39] <poor_little_pinkus> it's just lost that meaning tbh
[09:01:46] <@overfiendvip> Let Nicholas Sleep
[09:01:47] <mock5> FunRun
[09:01:54] <@bluntbunny> its almost like sean is having a convo with himself
[09:01:59] <seancass> lmao
[09:02:02] <apasher17> lol
[09:02:09] <mock5> lol
[09:02:11] <@overfiendvip> lol
[09:02:15] <sineporf> Sean is responding to the claim I posed.
[09:02:15] <seancass> im high as f sry
[09:02:23] <poor_little_pinkus> haha
[09:02:26] <spiky_peacemaker> LOL
[09:02:32] <seancass> and we have a dude with a philosophy degree here
[09:02:35] <seancass> it's to be expected
[09:02:40] <kaennimodo> CiGrip
[09:02:44] <sineporf> These are truths.
[09:03:00] <arsehole_______________> he is philosophy student??
[09:03:03] <rambly> idk pinkus i don't think "strat" was ever meant to mean the same thing as "strategy" (i think it kinda recalls the way "strategy" was used in video game communities for years and it usually referred to more specific tactics, also "strategy guide")
[09:03:06] <rambly> Final Fantasy Strats
[09:03:21] <rambly> anyway whatever i'm just nitpicking and being a nerd
[09:03:28] <seancass> no i hear that
[09:03:32] <apasher17> ffs rambly
[09:03:38] <seancass> thats pretty much what i'm saying, put more eloquently
[09:03:39] <mock5> KappaRoss
[09:03:40] <@nicholas_likes_sleep> xelna gets a casual sub 42 tt with 3bb and you idiots are having a fckn spelling b
[09:03:43] <poor_little_pinkus> really? I have no idea, but I always thought it was just a shorter version of strategy
[09:03:44] <sineporf> Nah, man. This is 'entertaining' conversation Kappa
[09:03:49] <apasher17> (i'm sorry that was elm-tier right there)
[09:04:00] <rambly> lol
[09:04:09] <poor_little_pinkus> but as you say, it has a specific meaning in the context of gaming for sure
[09:04:19] <sineporf> If you say so. I don't see any difference.
[09:04:31] <i_smoke_meth_daily_69> spelling b's are life
[09:05:09] <poor_little_pinkus> though in chess strategy and tactics are used in a stricter sense, and you can't really mix them
[09:05:43] <sineporf> I could probably do a doctorate on why we shouldn't have multiple meanings for words.
[09:05:45] <seancass> right, the abbreiation of "strat" simply does mean situational tactic
[09:05:56] <seancass> i missed a v somewhere
[09:06:00] <poor_little_pinkus> here: v
[09:06:03] <seancass> ty
[09:06:14] <rambly> :v
[09:06:24] <seancass> :v
[09:06:31] <apasher17> :>