Them, 11:31 PM I have grown to hate that encounter btw

Them, 11:31 PM if it worked itd be great but the way you are incentivized to turret up with literally nobody wanting to turret

Them, 11:31 PM plus morons not knowing how to work the mech

Them, 11:32 PM its v sad

Them, 11:33 PM also maybe its just me but I like the secret world better

Them, 11:34 PM you dont get that many cool setpieces in pso outside of the raids and the raids are all balanced around 12 people so they are less fun than they could be

Them, 11:35 PM I dont mind having big teams when it comes to pvp like in battlefield

Them, 11:35 PM but big teams in pve just make me wanna afk and free ride

Them, 11:35 PM nothing you do gets to have an impact

Them, 11:36 PM since if 1 person could carry it there would be issues

Me, 11:36 PM aside from stuff like applying a damage amplifier as ranger, or chain trigger for your party as a gunner

Them, 11:37 PM well yeah support skills are still good, im sure techers and force are in pretty high demand

Them, 11:37 PM as a fighter you can pop one of the faces on your own but you only just barely outdamage the turret in any other class and you still need someone to inflate the platforms

Me, 11:38 PM You just need to pop the mask

Them, 11:38 PM its crazy to me how there are so many bravers tbh

Them, 11:39 PM because they dont really seem like they are great for the boss stuff

Them, 11:39 PM and any class can handle mob duty even if katana bravers are great at that

Me, 11:39 PM they are if you do the loops. invincibility helps too. Or just use the bow

Me, 11:39 PM pew pew

Them, 11:41 PM the turrets do 5000 per hit if you are hitting the weak points and you should always be hitting the weak points because its easy

Them, 11:41 PM and they are just spewing those hits out fucking constantly

Me, 11:42 PM This is another strange stubbornness situation where I know it's useless to try to convince you but everyone else in the universe knows it to be true.

Me, 11:42 PM I don't know what to tell you.

Them, 11:43 PM okay as someone on a turret you do 5k attacks 100% of the time rain or shine at a rate thats faster than the gunner normals

Me, 11:43 PM post a reply to him

Them, 11:43 PM and gunner normals with a 13* only end up doing half of that

Me, 11:43 PM a gunner is a particularly bad example because you can just use the shoulder ram/satellite aim loop

Them, 11:44 PM you lose the chain and all of thats stuff so yeah you can make the case hey for a ranged class since you dont need to focus on repositioning go ham

Them, 11:44 PM but

Them, 11:45 PM for melee classes you dont get to combo like that

Me, 11:45 PM please post that

Me, 11:45 PM you can hang in the air.

Me, 11:45 PM every class has some sort of ability to go upwards, but not if you restrict yourself to one weapon (which a fair number of players do, hence the turrets).

Them, 11:45 PM hanging in the air isnt enough to stay in place pumping out damage

Me, 11:46 PM just to be clear we're talking about his knees right?

Them, 11:46 PM as a braver you need to use your gap closer a shitload

Me, 11:46 PM because ideally you pop open the masks -> open the platforms while he's downed due to kneecapping

Them, 11:46 PM as a hunter good fucking luck ever achieving turret deeps

Me, 11:46 PM post that please

Me, 11:46 PM https://www.reddit.com/r/PSO2/comments/hanogz/weekly_game_questions_and_help_thread/fvtekla/?context=3

Them, 11:47 PM im talking about the masks phase

Me, 11:47 PM generally you go knee, knee, break open the torso

Them, 11:47 PM I know from experience that the turret happy groups down it much faster than the I WILL ROLEPLAY MY FAVORITE ANIMES groups

Me, 11:47 PM for the sides yeah you do need to float and use your pursuit ability, and then SPACE JUMP up

Me, 11:47 PM if you fall

Me, 11:48 PM and yeah your DPS will fall if you mess up too much

Me, 11:48 PM post that

Them, 11:48 PM yes and when you reposition thats dps los

Me, 11:48 PM that's why you need to play the floor is lava

Them, 11:48 PM all the times you arent just constantly banging away at it with your good combo thats dps loss

Me, 11:48 PM you can also do stuff like use parts of his anatomy to reset your jumps

Them, 11:48 PM if you need to use pp on your gap closer or whatever thats dps loss

Me, 11:48 PM post that.

Them, 11:49 PM meanwhile turret goes brrrrrrrrrrr

Them, 11:50 PM any moron can use a turret, and its fucking easy to use a turret, melee classes need to know their class, optimal dps combos and how to perfectly position and reposition and they arent even guaranteed the good good damage even after that

Them, 11:50 PM so

Me, 11:50 PM Post that

Them, 11:50 PM knowing what you know about other games

Them, 11:50 PM and the high quality players that they attract

Me, 11:50 PM Post that !

Them, 11:50 PM which do you think is better

Them, 11:53 PM that dude has the gotta get these to 95 title

Me, 11:53 PM post that . can I post it? Please?

Them, 11:53 PM hes playing japan and thats a totally different game

Me, 11:54 PM oh god I have to post it now please

Me, 11:54 PM jesus christ

Me, 11:54 PM your wrongness is so intense

Me, 11:54 PM I can feel it like a brick to the face

Them, 11:54 PM if you want to post it go ahead lol

Them, 11:54 PM I dont think you are even playing the same game

They said the same thing (that last line) about everyone saying that playing Gunner properly is better than spamming Elder Rebellion. (They do use chain trigger, but they spam elder rebellion to deal all the damage)

Note that this isn't about them "playing it wrong", but about them insisting that their way is objectively and unquestionably superior, over and over, when its not even close.