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- ments he made clear
- that the Federal Council
- had to make decisions in the last few days, our top
- priority was to protect the interests of Switzerland
- and it was about making a contribution
- to stabilizing the international
- financial markets because protecting and protecting the Swiss financial center
- to also protect our national economy
- a failure of CS would have resulted in serious
- economic upheavals in
- Switzerland and other countries
- already in the past few
- months and weeks, the
- financial debate, in close cooperation with
- the Federal Council and together with the
- Financial Market Authority and the
- Swiss National Bank, has examined the situation
- closely followed on the financial market and
- various scenarios developed
- last Wednesday, March 15,
- due to the turbulent developments
- on the market, it then became clear that
- Credit Suisse's liquidity was no longer secured
- in coordination with the financial debate,
- SMB and SMB therefore attended
- the Un collateral on the
- market and the SNB
- made it clear that it would make
- liquidity available to CS if necessary
- in order to ensure liquidity in the long term
- First of all, last
- Thursday, March 16, he decided
- to create the necessary legal basis so that the Swiss
- National Bank can guarantee the affected institution
- additional liquidity assistance. You
- heard that
- the Swiss National Bank
- guaranteed the so-called
- other countries, but we have expanded
- this option with this Federal Council ordinance
- so that the
- National Bank
- could provide additional liquidity. We did that
- on Thursday and it
- is also on Thursday entered into force
- the second measure that we
- took last thursday is that the
- SMB was also granted a selection guarantee
- for liquidity loans in the amount of
- 100 billion francs i will
- come back to this later
- so we both made these decisions
- on thursday at the same time as
- the To ensure liquidity,
- my department pushed ahead with work on a
- sustainable solution. First
- talks with UBS and CS
- took place last Wednesday afternoon, March 15. In the
- days and hours that followed,
- negotiations were pushed ahead. The
- Federal Council was constantly
- strengthening and pending questions
- I was also
- in daily contact with colleagues abroad,
- in particular my colleague Janet Yellen from
- the USA and Jeremy Hand in the UK Both
- financial centers are of course important and
- also play an important role in these financial centers now
- the negotiation could now en between UBS and
- CS
- to achieve this solution was the goal
- of the Federal Council it is a solid
- solution which the Federal Council welcomes this
- solution is suitable now to stabilize the situation of
- CS and also
- to give the financial markets security
- for this merger Were
- further resolutions necessary, which we
- made today? Specifically, the
- Federal Council issued a guarantee of
- CHF 9 billion in order to
- reduce any risks for UBS.
- This guarantee is about potential losses on a very specific portfolio that UBS assumes as part of the transaction but only comes
- into effect if any losses of
- UBS exceed a certain threshold,
- so you have to
- imagine that it is like an
- insurance policy that only comes into effect
- if there is actually a loss
- and first UBS would
- bear these losses and then in the second rank
- the Bund just would this
- Guarantee from now on,
- ladies and gentlemen, allow me to go into
- a few more remarks on the
- resolutions that the Federal Council
- already missed on Thursday to secure
- liquidity. These resolutions
- were necessary and consistent in order to be able to
- restore confidence in the market
- Secured
- liquidity loans from the SMB are
- linked to various conditions in order to reduce the
- risk of loss for the SMB and also for
- the state. This includes
- the bankruptcy privilege and a
- risk premium that the bank
- must pay on the loan. The President of the
- National Bank will
- make further statements here and explain the instrument
- this liquidity assistance
- was an internationally
- recognized instrument this is the
- so-called public liquidity bagster
- this instrument is
- already being used in other financial centers in
- Switzerland or has not yet been approved by
- the Federal Council Its decided a year ago
- to also introduce this instrument in Switzerland, which
- should have been implemented in the next few months as a sideline to the draft law.
- After the situation has
- worsened in recent weeks and days,
- the Federal Council has
- now introduced this instrument for individual cases in
- all decisions of the Federal Council
- on Thursday and also today it is
- about emergency law that the Federal Council
- has issued based on Article 184 paragraph 3 and Article 185 paragraph 3 of the Federal Constitution,
- but the constitution also stipulates that
- emergency law is limited, which means that
- ordinary law must be replaced
- and the Federal Council is planning
- to submit a corresponding bill to Parliament within six months
- for the state
- support service, a
- guarantee loan from the federal government is required the
- guarantee loan includes the selection
- guarantee for the liquidity support at
- the SMB, i.e. the guarantee The tie to the
- SMB and the limited loss guarantee
- to support the assumption of this
- commitment credit require the
- approval of the finance delegation of the
- federal chambers the
- finance delegation approved
- the commitment credits this afternoon
- and I would like to thank the delegation
- on behalf of the Bundesrat
- the technical details of the
- Federal Council resolutions, we will
- then also answer these questions
- sitting here in front of everyone who
- has worked day and night over the
- last few days that this solution
- has become possible in favor of Switzerland I will conclude with this the
- Federal Council regrets that CS
- was not able to overcome the difficulties a
- Mastering it on your own would have
- been the best solution, we regret this,
- not least because many
- thousands of employees are affected,
- but we are convinced that
- employers will also give you certainty as soon as possible,
- this
- is also our expectation that you
- know how things are in The
- Federal Council also regrets that the bank,
- which was once a flagship institute in
- Switzerland and was part of our strong
- standards, was able to get into this situation at all.
- Credit
- Suisse still has many solid
- parts today. It has very good employees.
- It has
- one in particular recognized Swiss bank, but
- unfortunately the loss of confidence on the part of the
- markets and customers could no
- longer be stopped with the takeover by
- UBS, this trust should be
- restored
- rise However, the risks for
- the state for the taxpayers the
- taxpayers the financial center the
- business location for our country
- as a whole but also for
- international financial stability are
- significantly lower than in any other
- scenario I would like to
- repeat once again the failure of a globally
- systemically important bank would have serious
- economic upheavals in
- Switzerland but also worldwide
- Switzerland also had to assume its
- responsibility beyond its own
- national borders The
- Federal Council is convinced that the
- takeover of CS by UBS
- will create the basis for more stability
- both in Switzerland and
- internationally the bankrotsee superstitious
- system
- Thank you very much Vice-Chancellor the
- Federal President Madam Federal Councilor,
- ladies and gentlemen, I
- would like to give you the perspective and the role of the
- SNB in this extremely important and critical issue for our
- international financial center and the
- Swiss economy
- i would like to briefly summarize the course of this crisis from
- our point of view
- we have been
- in an extraordinary situation since last week
- with the current us banking crisis
- the crisis of confidence at Credit
- Suisse has also intensified
- this had a direct impact
- on the liquidity situation of the bank in
- the outflows from the positive
- accelerated sharply therefore,
- since March 15, the Swiss National Bank has
- made a large volume of liquidity available to Credit Suisse in order to
- help stabilize the situation.
- A significant part of this liquidity
- consisted of
- foreign loans
- and to give Credit Suisse some breathing room
- they were necessary and to ensure the
- solvency of Swiss they
- offered the bridge for
- a stable solution which addresses the causes
- of the loss of confidence
- a bankruptcy of Credit Suisse would have addressed
- serious consequences for national
- and international financial stability and
- thus also for the Swiss
- economy.
- In the last few days,
- Bund Finma Essen
- Bee and the two banks have joined forces to develop a
- future-oriented solution
- to support the successful
- implementation of the takeover announced today
- will the national bank now
- provide expanded extensive liquidity which can be used if required
- let me explain this briefly
- both banks have unrestricted
- access to the existing facilities
- of the SBB via which they can obtain liquidity from the
- national bank in accordance with guidelines on the
- monetary policy instruments
- beyond and based Based on the
- Federal Council's emergency ordinance,
- Credit Suisse and UBS can obtain a
- liquidity assistance loan totaling
- up to CHF 100 billion, secured by a bankruptcy certificate
- In addition and based on the
- Federal Council’s emergency ordinance, the
- SNB can grant Credit Suisse a
- liquidity assistance loan of
- up to CHF 100 billion secured by a default guarantee from the
- Confederation
- the new instrument for liquidity support
- the publicity the backstop corresponds
- to the internationally widespread standard
- it is explicitly a systemically relevant measure by the Financial Stability Board
- as part of the
- tubecu-due disorderly failure
- it was imperative
- that we acted in this extraordinary and
- urgent situation
- and found a solution
- Due to its
- size and global network, Credit Suisse is classified as a globally
- active, systemically important bank,
- i.e. as a bank
- whose failure could cause significant disruptions in the
- global financial system
- Serious direct
- and indirect
- consequences for Switzerland's reputation
- This reputation is central to the
- cross-border
- wealth management business of the Swiss
- banking sector and thus also to the
- economy. The current
- solution ensures
- that systemically important functions
- remain secure
- their
- deposits, on the other hand, the ability
- to draw on open credit lines
- or to roll over maturing loans
- overall, it is a matter of supplying the
- Swiss economy with the necessary
- liquidity
- against this background, measures must be
- taken to reduce the risk of a
- disorderly failure of a
- systemically important bank and the
- burden for the public as
- low as possible
- the extensive provision
- of liquidity ensures that
- both banks have the necessary
- liquidity
- the National Bank thereby fulfills the um
- e r is fulfilling
- its mandate to
- contribute to the stability of the financial sector through the extensive liquidity assistance
- and continues to work
- closely with the federal government and the company for this purpose
- This is an important step that serves to
- protect depositors
- and the reputation of the Swiss
- financial center.
- Since October 2022,
- social media triggers have led to massive
- outflows of customer deposits from
- Credit Suisse,
- but the bank has always met the
- minimum regulatory requirements
- both in terms of capital and in
- terms of liquidity
- this was only the case thanks to the high
- regulatory safety
- buffers the bank was able to absorb these
- huge
- outflows
- even though the fun damentanten
- were basically in order, the
- confidence of market participants,
- investors and customers in a
- successful future for the bank was increasingly
- lost
- the most recent banking crisis in the USA as
- well as concerns about a general
- financial crisis once again led to
- massive market editorials he set in a
- negative spiral the
- the topic to fail precautions are
- strongly geared towards solvent problems,
- i.e. the solvency profile have, as I
- said, the real
- ability to absorb shocks,
- but ultimately the loss of confidence
- and the resulting problems were
- too great, so the authorities had to
- take measures,
- it is clear The company will
- continue to monitor the takeover process intensively, just
- as Credit Suisse has
- monitored and supported it particularly intensively since October,
- and will continue to ensure
- compliance with all regulatory
- requirements with the required
- intensity t and depth weeks, it
- is also clear that the requirements, which are
- now even greater,
- will increase in proportion to the bank,
- however, this will only be the case after the merger phase is over
- is maintained at all times
- the custody accounts and other
- services remain accessible in the usual
- way
- it shows that the players in the
- Swiss financial market the Confederation can find the
- National Bank
- solutions to
- face crises and overcome them
- the solution presented today the
- takeover of CS by UBS together
- with stabilizing measures by the federal government
- and Essen in matters of liquidity and the
- conversion of
- corresponding
- capital instrument capital ordered by the company, brings
- stability for the
- bank's customers for the financial center and for the
- financial markets in general e
- ladies and gentlemen n
- today marks a clear turning point it is
- a historic, sad and very
- challenging day for Credit
- Suisse for Switzerland and the global
- financial markets since I took on the role of
- Chairman of the Board of Directors around
- a year ago, it has been clear
- that things cannot go on like this for
- good Uli Körner has been
- in office as CEO for seven months he acted decisively from day one
- and
- filled key positions he
- worked tirelessly with his team on the cultural transformation and strategic realignment of Credit Suisse
- I have the utmost respect for Uli
- Körner and his leadership team
- Although we have achieved many of the goals we have set ourselves, we have
- no time to complete
- the restructuring of Credit
- Suisse in a controlled manner. The
- massive outflow of customer funds in
- October last year was a
- major setback
- we started 2023 with a lot of vigor and energy
- the most recent events from
- US banks hit us at the most unfavorable
- moment
- like last year we were able to
- overcome the deep uncertainty on the markets
- but not this second time
- the accelerated
- loss of confidence and the escalation
- about the the last few days made it clear that
- Credit Suisse cannot continue to exist in its current
- form we are
- glad to have a solution that I am
- convinced will bring sustainable
- stability and security for our
- clients, employees,
- the financial markets and Switzerland
- it is one Extremely difficult and
- demanding situation, the
- decisions were not easy in the
- current situation, there is no cheap
- choice, but the solution presented is
- the best possible under the current
- circumstances,
- so it is clear that we now have to
- concentrate fully on the future, our
- clear focus is on our approx. 50,000
- Employees and employees, around
- 17,000 of them in Switzerland, they are
- committed day in and day out for our
- private customers, SMEs and corporate customers,
- we will again be a reliable,
- stable and competent partner for
- our customers,
- UBS is an excellent and
- strong bank, I know it well, it will be
- together with kreditsuisse, meet the
- upcoming challenge with great
- discipline know-how and a feeling for what
- is feasible our employees
- need stability our customers
- need security and Switzerland and
- the financial market need calm and
- reliability
- ladies and gentlemen we are now
- looking ahead to the The merger
- with UBS will
- bring back the stability and security that is urgently needed
- it was said that the Federal Council
- decided on Thursday
- that it was necessary to restore trust,
- but he did not communicate it, so how should
- the effects then unfold or why are
- you only telling us this
- evening that the crisis has become
- Swiss National Bank asked for this
- liquidity help and on
- Thursday we
- extended this liquidity help and also
- decided this backstop,
- we were actually convinced that it
- was important to
- get through to the weekend to
- ensure liquidity as trouble-free as possible and
- on Sunday that was our goal
- by Sunday at the latest to be able to present a package
- if we
- had come to Thursday and said yes, by the
- way, the Federal Council has approved another 50
- billion in liquidity for the
- National Bank and the Federal Council itself
- has also granted liquidity
- to the National Bank in the amount of
- 1 00 billion guaranteed there would have
- been uncertainty for the markets
- that was the unanimous opinion of the
- film at the National Bank and also the
- financial debates we
- discussed it and that would have led to much more
- uncertainty his
- salami tactics now come every day a little
- more 50 billion underground too
- 100 billion more that would not have
- been security if of course if
- it had been the case that the backstop
- would have had to be touched if the 100
- billion from the National Bank
- had already been used up then we would have
- communicated that is clear because then
- we would have provided security but that's how
- we were Opinion that this
- would have led to more uncertainty,
- I have now understood correctly
- that the shareholders, the holders of
- convertible bonds, the obligatory
- lenders and so on, are now
- getting off scot-free, so that we are
- actually saving the Saudis, in particular
- their boss on Friday evening last The one who
- is part of the
- regulation that is intended in such a way that
- the corresponding bonds, which are
- not held by investors
- but by parents and large
- investors, are
- then converted into equity and
- this Part of the fail regulation has
- now also been triggered here,
- so you also have a
- stake in those you mentioned.
- That is of course a painful
- solution for those who
- hold such stakes, but it is a
- correct solution in terms of regulatory policy,
- lessons of the financial crisis was that
- be no more public Pellets of banks
- and the fire one created and decision
- today Creator
- in
- privates and this
- if I understood you correctly
- before you said rumors
- against the CS had led to this situation
- and the weakening of the CS does that mean
- they actually say there was a
- campaign against en the CS and if so
- you know who is behind it
- that wasn't in the sense of a campaign
- but I referenced this Twitter
- situation in October the
- Swiss was already weakened beforehand and
- then various rumors at the time
- really fueled these capital outflows of liquidity
- behind it is music
- to be discussed the fact is that it was
- there at the beginning and then
- drew further spirals and then old ones to
- these really well-known and I think I have to say
- historical
- outflows felt and it
- is important to increase again that this
- this fact that that is critical
- this situation was like that back then in October
- that is
- due to the fact that we
- have a regulation with strict with high
- liquidity requirements the company
- also has the so-called Piller 2
- i.e.
- higher
- liquidity requirements specifically tailored to a bank the
- devices issue the itself has also
- held even more liquidity and
- all of this has contributed to
- tomorrow
- morning the stock market prices will
- fall again, if at all, UBS
- We really thought so
- and we were very
- committed to helping both sides
- liquidity to one side and
- finding a solution where it goes
- between the two private actors I
- think but you also have to see that we
- still take our time now I mean I
- think that is a very strong
- commitment today from Switzerland
- official Switzerland the authorities
- Bundesrat Fielmann and essen.de
- is not much stronger we just
- did everything we could do dami t
- that trust and stability
- can be guaranteed but of course
- that would have and we'll see
- what happens over the next few days months but I
- think we really did have a very strong solution in a
- situation that wasn't so easy, you have to
- say,
- and the first reactions Abroad
- my colleague had spoken about the
- contacts she had internationally
- I also
- had international contacts would be the solution the
- first reactions are very positive are
- very positive and we also have the
- commitment that people simply
- understand what we have done in
- others countries and the commitment was
- that they are very grateful that this was
- done and they will also
- help that is for the international
- part but back in Switzerland
- it is also extremely important in Switzerland that
- we present a good solution because
- it works not just about the stability of the
- financial center, it is primarily about Kai
- has to be about priva te the simply the simply
- Conti have given us loans for
- companies it's about the
- employees and it's really about
- payment transactions it's about a lot for
- our country that means we believe
- we are firmly of the opinion that it
- really brings a good solution
- addition to it UBS has a very
- profitable business model a very
- robust business model we
- also have a business model with
- relatively low risks and through this
- it is possible to transfer the trust that
- the rupes are present to
- all activities from credit
- and that should bring
- stability here we also have
- the necessary funds to bridge the next few days
- so that should actually be
- a consequence i can also
- confirm that on the part of the
- central banks internationally all my
- colleagues from the relevant central banks
- support this takeover from a
- supervisory perspective too so that also applies
- to the supervisory authorities who are
- in contact with us and we have
- a very well established,
- solid bank at UBS and are therefore convinced
- that we have found a very viable
- solution here and
- if we are convinced that we can really do it here in this
- way
- Blumberg has also found a future-oriented model. I just understood Mr. Keller here
- to mean that UBS
- intends to keep the swissbank of the credits,
- so I'm wondering if there are
- n't
- problems with competition law because
- they have a
- very high market share in Switzerland, what about the
- second question?
- any options for UBS to
- withdraw from the deal or
- are there no options at all granted
- by UBS to
- withdraw from the thing these two questions
- thank you
- gives us the competence in this case in
- terms of financial stability then the
- competitive situation next to it to
- overwrite and d we have
- we have also
- made use of it here
- I have a question about the
- paprika
- the Federal Council
- announced almost exactly a year ago that it
- wanted to introduce this instrument it would not have
- been appropriate because it was also about Above
- all, trust comes from the fact that this
- instrument
- was introduced last autumn, or why was
- n't it done? Has it been considered?
- Yes, the Federal Council is correct
- to say that a year ago it decided to have a
- service proposal drawn up by it through the
- financial debate
- and in In fact, at that time we were still under
- discussion in the Federal Council under my predecessor Ueli Maurer, I say that and to
- be very transparent as to whether this should now be
- accelerated
- now suddenly so easy
- to come half a year earlier would have happened to be
- heard with this
- then that would certainly have
- raised questions and we then coordinated with the
- Federal Office of Justice and
- said if you should actually need it
- then
- it would be possible to make use of emergency law
- we will but anyway I
- said so By the way,
- a week before the
- events in the USA I had an
- internal meeting where I
- had approved the work, so to speak,
- that we should now accelerate, but there
- were also reasons not to do it at the time, so
- we didn't accelerate it at the time
- in the Bundesrat so as not to
- unsettle one more question
- just very briefly so it would
- not have stabilized at this time in October
- but had a destabilizing effect and
- now he actually has a problem
- that the authorities at the National Bank
- were not able
- to provide the liquidity but we had
- an extremely fast rapid n there was a
- loss of trust and
- the instrument was then
- additionally activated for that, so it would
- not have helped at the time, on the contrary, and
- now the instrument was available for a very short time
- to create this bridge here, so that one
- had time until the weekend If
- you had found a solution beforehand,
- that wouldn't have helped here now,
- of course, speculation, so you've
- set up rescue companies for the energy industry, so
- that's just a side note, but I would like to be
- able to ask Ms. Keller Sutter one more question You quantify the financial
- risk that the federal government
- has taken with all these measures what the
- financial risk is manageable
- maybe the President of the
- National Bank can say something again about that
- or I already said concern
- we don’t make any kind of cash we
- don’t give money to UBS or to the
- credit but it is a guarantee
- g compared to the National Bank for
- liquidity but one must also say that
- this perfect would also have
- come into play in other scenarios, for
- example if one
- had sought nationalization of the bank, if
- the federal government had taken over the bank, a
- tipi would have been
- needed or
- it would have been necessary for a restructuring, so this PLB,
- this temporary
- provision of liquidity would actually have been
- thank you very much, this liquidity aid
- is equipped with a bankruptcy letter
- both for the National Bank
- and then for the tranche that the federal government
- guarantees the SBB for the federal government and that
- has to be seen relative to the capital
- that is then present on the balance sheet
- and there is a relatively large part
- that is first to absorb losses
- and then the bankruptcy privilege is
- set at a level because I the
- federal government and the National Bank ei n a
- manageable risk, as the
- Federal Councilor had previously said, is
- actually taken by this bankruptcy
- privilege being set relatively high up in the system,
- the risk is then
- yes, thanks for the opportunity from SRF and
- Swisscom, I have one Question about the
- liquidity aid of the National Bank if
- the collateral has to be deposited
- and how
- high is the interest on it and secondly
- I would be surprised how high this
- in the company media release is the
- commitment premium called for the
- default premium guaranteed Bundeswehr
- is high because this commitment premium thank you very much
- for this question, we
- have different types of liquidity
- that we make available to the banks
- in special situations, so to speak, the
- first tranche is traditional
- Ella or
- assistance, which is against collateral that
- the banks can deliver to us because
- mortgages or assets letters
- are delivered and then comes a
- second tranche that we call Ela plus
- that is where we
- face a bankruptcy letter then
- give this liquidity the banks do not provide
- sufficient security for this
- loan is ensured by the privilege
- and then the tranche
- above where we then with the public
- liquidity the backstop
- can spend this liquidity there we have the
- guarantee of the federal government and the federal government
- also has the bankruptcies how many sets
- both Ela plus and
- the liquidity that we go with the public
- liquidity the backstop which is
- provided with a risk premium who are entitled to
- both the floor and the food
- then the corresponding
- thank you very much the two questions have been
- answered we can take the next
- Mr. Bühler how high are the interest rates
- sorry what are the interest rates look
- back is always easy
- and put a finger somewhere it
- is simply a fact that we
- certainly since 2021 greensiel and
- arjados have not been out of the headlines
- we have simply been
- caught up in legacy issues they have been
- caught up in by risks that
- materialize last year we have been
- caught up in a
- business model that
- just doesn’t work in this market environment
- and many customers and Customers have
- been very loyal for a long time
- and
- last fall it was something about this
- social media storm that had an
- enormous impact, especially
- catfish people private customer market few
- institutional and the professional
- market and sometimes
- the drop just comes too much suddenly
- being too much or that's exactly the point at
- which we've arrived it's an
- accumulation of things that
- have built up over many, many years and
- that just materialize somewhere
- and all of a sudden the
- camel's back is broken
- 20 minutes a little less technical
- question a lot easily then, Mrs. Federal Councilor
- Keller Sutter,
- what do you say to many, many
- people in the country who may have
- all their savings here with Credit Suisse
- and have been worried in the last few days
- whether their maybe
- 400,000 francs are really still safe,
- you can promise him that they will
- today can go to bed calmly when
- the mortgage, so I have quite a broad
- customer relationship and I believe that
- what we have done now
- is really to protect exactly those
- people who have money, the
- criticism of the SMEs is to
- protect the continued payment of wages
- to keep all payment transactions going and also to
- secure the deposits,
- of course, there was also
- deposit protection or a hundred thousand
- francs, that is guaranteed, but that
- the bank really continues to function,
- that the salaries can be paid out,
- that the companies
- can and that the payment transactions
- work, that's just it through this
- solution That would have been
- very difficult in special scenarios
- I am grateful myself as a
- customer that it worked I
- also have an account with Robe as well as every
- Swiss woman and woman you have to
- diversify a bit so I’m also
- glad
- Johannes Brinkmann from AWP had
- them couldn't have done it all cheaper
- if they had already voiced
- their support for CS last weekend
- when Janet yellen
- Joe Biden Olaf Scholz and others voiced their
- support for the financial system
- and then my
- second question would be when will the
- merger go through and the third
- question
- and then maybe we'll come
- back to the third party I'll give you the floor again later, thank
- you, well, you just have to see the system in
- Switzerland, the process in
- Switzerland is such that if a bank
- has problems with liquidity, then
- it can get liquidity ie a major bank
- or in it can liquidity at the
- national bank b I note
- that Credit Suisse
- applied to the National Bank for Ela on Wednesday. That
- 's the procedure and afterwards the
- Federal Council increased these
- liquidity checkers, if you will, so
- these liquidity
- levels. It was in no way about that at the weekend,
- so it has to be
- not at all a question of the
- finance department but it is a
- question of the company or if the company
- has to tell women instead if
- the company comes to the conclusion together
- with the national bank that a bank
- is not viable then it is up to you
- to act but the cred its submitted its
- application to the National Bank on Wednesday,
- the situation was such that it
- changed dramatically and on Monday it
- was actually still quiet in Switzerland,
- that only happened on
- Tuesday afternoon and then it got into the course
- of Wednesday, as I
- said before There has been a
- dramatic change
- spiraling down the
- system pulled and the
- liquidity agreements were massively increased and
- there you had to act with the liquidity
- and then put together this package within these very
- few days, also thanks to this
- liquidity aid to
- repeat once again so
- we have many
- regulatory requirements we have capital and
- liquidity regulations
- accordingly who are the
- relevant key figures are to be
- complied with if a
- stressful liquidity situation such as
- we just saw at the
- beginning of this week to the middle of this week
- then there is the possibility that the
- bank will Cars can make the SMD
- can tackle to get liquidity there
- in a further step then the
- company is active if it
- should really come to the insolvency
- or then just the
- so-called point of no wayabili ty
- then the company would then initiate appropriate
- reorganization measures or bankruptcy,
- but
- this could be avoided here and
- this solution was found beforehand
- I would like to get back to the
- point about the size
- of the SMB publishes
- this stability report every year
- where you can see very nicely that the banks
- are actually already two of the largest in Switzerland if UBS
- now takes over CS you have a
- size of about 200% or over 200% of
- GDP as how big see You have
- already emphasized this problem, that the fail
- system already provides that if
- a bank grows, whether
- organically or through a
- takeover, that this is then also reflected
- in higher capital and
- liquidity regulations, in addition to
- capital and liquidity, there are also
- corresponding ones Provisions for a
- possible unbundling, so that in the event of a
- crisis, n can
- also unravel and split off the system-relevant parts accordingly
- and
- that is already provided for in the tubidual framework
- in the sense that it is not
- fundamentally new the only new
- element here is now that we
- can of course not install Monday, so to speak, but that there is
- a transitional phase here conditionally
- and then we'll take Mr
- Jordan again first and then
- of course an important and I think
- if a bank exists on this scale
- it's all the more important
- to follow the aspects of financial stability closely it's
- a job for the National Bank
- and the company to do that and of
- course that too It is important that
- competition aspects are properly
- taken into account, but I
- assume that it is also in the interest of the
- banks and UBS itself that they
- behave correctly in this regard and I have already
- said that it also depends on the
- business model if you a
- big bank have the in
- asset management is where the risks are
- well intentioned are manageable
- then that is something different than when the
- bank of the same size is just inactive
- which are very volatile and
- can also lead to rapid exit due to market changes or to
- liquidity conclusions that I believe are
- very important In addition to looking at the size of the
- business model, there were
- risks and then also the ability of a
- naturally reliable company to
- correctly assess this situation there has
- never been a reorganization or
- bankruptcy, you have to say, or a
- resolution in management with the
- splitting up of a part, or the
- question always comes up, yes, why did
- n't you just let the group
- go bankrupt and
- continued business in Switzerland, that's with a
- systemically important one A bank of this size has
- never happened before and I said it before
- that would have had a major impact
- on the Swiss financial center,
- or the connection between UBS and
- kreditsu is of course inherent
- to the other banks and also to
- the international financial markets
- So I would say
- almost certainly triggered a financial crisis,
- but or the question is
- interesting in that I've also
- thought a lot about it in the last few
- hours
- and now you have a
- case of this actually not
- really clear conflict and actually
- you can use these instruments until now on
- at one or something that is intended almost
- not apply and that simply shows
- that there are always other
- constellations where and that was
- so difficult and you
- had to quickly find another solution that just has a
- stabilizing effect and causes the least
- collateral damage but you know
- You can trust them don't
- regulate you can also
- say don't regulate cultural mistakes
- away
- that's another
- story,
- of course, the difficulty that
- all this took place in a very fragile
- market environment,
- so if it
- had been in a different situation then
- you would now have the usual framework of
- a
- process then also be able to assess differently,
- from the federal government and up to 9 billion francs
- for a portfolio,
- what exactly is it about is the
- tricky business, as you can
- see, UBS has
- carried out a diodeligence, but these legends could
- not be carried out in depth
- as is normally the case it would be usual,
- she has found that there is also
- a portfolio with stocks that
- can be problematic, that have to
- be written off, that
- may just generate losses in value
- and we have
- agreed that the federal government comes in second
- place in first place, UBS in
- second place here a certain This loss
- carries a risk of default but that happens it's
- like insurance or it wo
- n't appear
- anywhere in the federal books it
- 's a guarantee that would only come into play
- if the case actually happened
- how this portfolio
- looks like maybe you can say something
- about destructure
- in this constellation the company has
- the right to take the place of the alarm clock,
- Weco is being consulted and in the
- interest of financial stability the
- company can approve this merger in the
- interest of
- financial stability
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- can
- cause problems and that means that now in
- relation to any expectations of the
- bank in terms of remuneration etc. I
- 'm talking
- about enormous opportunities that you have
- thanks to this name,
- yes, we are grateful to UBS,
- but we are also grateful to CS
- grateful to have this merger in
- mind i have it said the stability
- of the Swiss financial center the creditworthiness of
- Switzerland for the stability of the
- Swiss economy that this
- merger has really come about now,
- also internationally or that
- one forgets that I would like to emphasize it again
- that any other solution
- would have
- triggered a financial crisis in real entregime and that would have been very
- difficult and it
- took both or to show a willingness here
- and it also took the federal government
- to provide certain guarantees they
- heard liquidity and so on,
- we
- think that was the only possible
- solution I still want once simply that
- you are aware of the scenarios
- that you would otherwise have had to
- pursue a tipi the
- federal government would have bought Credit Suisse
- imagine the fort at least
- temporarily there are such there are
- examples of tpos there are states that
- are still sitting on their banks so
- that would be a huge s been a risk for
- the taxpayer then the restructuring
- we have already talked about that
- would have been difficult or even a
- liquidation of the bank that would have really
- put the Swiss financial center under pressure and also internationally as far as
- remuneration is concerned yes well that is
- of course I mean UBS not in
- trouble or we ca
- n't make any specifications here you know that
- the specifications can only be made
- if you help banks out of
- trouble, so to speak, so the question is the
- ban on dividends, i.e. if a
- bank has to be rescued or the question
- of remuneration for that is regulated, but
- if a bank is solid like
- UBS, it can decide for itself
- I don't see that as being in debt at all,
- we are grateful that
- this merger
- came about, UBS is a
- solid bank, we heard it it's
- doing well in the market it's resilient
- it's actually lucky that we're on
- the Swiss financial center has its bank,
- which is now involved,
- also in terms of Switzerland or I think
- they are right, so I think there is
- a chance of need and of course
- for UBS in this deal too, but there
- are also risks and I
- say that's it not easy
- to find each other here because it was it was there
- were different interests
- of course but in the end the
- common interest of CS of UBS and
- the authorities was that they want to stabilize the
- Swiss financial center the international
- financial centers the Swiss
- economy and
- that is it a clear commitment
- to our economy and our
- financial center a commitment to the
- protection of savers we
- want to ensure that
- all payment transactions continue to
- work wages are guaranteed
- the whole Kai must introduce themselves
- SMEs are important customers of
- creditism or all that had to
- be guaranteed and that would not be
- guaranteed no other scenario
- we could really
- have guaranteed that and that is simply the higher
- interest
- the question how much has CS already
- used this money is this
- line of credit and will the brand disappear a lot
- and to Ms Kelly Sutter
- you said that is not
- a state solution, nationalization was
- seriously an option and it is but
- you also said a
- state guarantee that you ultimately
- give here how should the risk
- behavior of the banks ever change if
- in case of doubt you know you have this
- state guarantee you wanted do not
- avoid that exactly 2018 with UBS
- from last fall we do
- n't need an extraordinary gridlimited by the
- Swiss National Bank you saw
- last week that was this week
- we drew this 50 billion which
- we also drew to
- be careful that if you really need it
- that it is just there and and that has
- g I think it worked very very well
- regarding the fire the creative is on fire
- like being there until the transaction is closed
- and then please UPS
- have to decide what the brand is like and I think
- come indication
- something about this question is that a
- state solution or not it's just
- not a state solution we have a
- private bank that buys another bank
- in this scenario there is
- liquidity support, yes, it would have
- existed in all other scenarios and
- this guarantee is a kind of
- default guarantee, I have already said
- something like an insurance policy if we
- had done TPO that Talking to you
- that also kicked me over tippiot
- temporate public without what would you have
- done then 15 years after the
- financial crisis you would have said
- we cannot really
- use the instruments because they do not really
- fit here but we are now taking over this
- bank the federal government is also taking over this bank
- all risks and that would
- have been the state solution and that would then be
- a In fact, then you would have
- perverted the idea, but of course we
- also examined this scenario
- because we didn't know whether
- this merger would come about
- and we simply knew from the company
- and the National Bank, and Mr. Lehmann
- also said that this bank was no
- longer viable is and what do you do
- in such a situation or you
- are right
- when you say you don't want a
- state solution yes that's why you made
- the capital requirement, the
- liquidity requirements and so on
- and they also work
- in principle and it would really be now
- you would have really perverted it
- if you now if the federal government is now
- standing this bank you imagine the
- federal government would have bought this big bank
- now we have a private one who
- bought it but it was needed it was
- said at the very beginning of this media conference that needs an overall package if
- you want stability and security in the
- want to enter the market then you need it also
- the supervisory authorities, the
- political authorities are needed to say yes, we
- are behind this merger and
- we are also providing this situation with
- sufficient liquidity to stabilize the system,
- this is an overall package
- that you have to look at,
- there are now, of course,
- a lot of questions that we will still have
- at some point we will come to a conclusion,
- but we will take a few more questions
- because then we can also
- thank you very much online it is so
- that almost all pension funds in
- Switzerland are also involved in the afo AVV at the big bank
- what happens now with
- these very shares
- but it a purchase price has been agreed upon
- and the previous
- shareholders get this purchase price and
- perhaps it should be emphasized again here, of
- course, the shareholders will
- lose money compared to what
- they had a few weeks ago or
- a few years ago on the other
- hand happens to the
- stock price whom n a resolution like this
- had been passed and if the
- bank had been declared bankrupt on Monday,
- everything would have been lost for the shareholder,
- you can see that the
- shareholder still gets this price here
- and you don't have to compare it with
- what he used to have but with
- what he would have gotten if
- this package hadn't been put together now
- that I don't think that's the right
- perspective and that actually applies to
- all other capital instruments that
- are also discussed in
- exactly the same way
- you can say whether tomorrow trading
- with the cs share is suspended and the
- second thing I would like to know was that it was
- also a topic of discussion in the Federal Council
- to what extent the management
- Credit Suisse management remains in
- place now there is a short time as
- described by Keller for
- the weeks leading up to the
- closing of this transaction thereafter
- the Credit Swiss Coop is a
- subsidiary of the UBS Group and
- UBS determines the management and
- board of directors of this
- subsidiary
- times four days mainly simply to
- find a solution and not taken so much time
- to simply
- take into account the
- past so not made a
- lot of effort here already in such a
- huge job and very complex
- Swiss television, which I still haven't
- grasped, these 50 billion
- are now another 100 billion
- or is it a total of 100
- billion that was given as liquidity aid
- because that Helen mentioned and
- Credit Suisse announced has been
- given by means of traditional normal Ela, that is, the emergency liquidity,
- we have for Credit Suisse
- a total of 50 + 100, i.e. 150
- additional billion liquidity that
- we can use
- 200 total if you that if you
- already have the normal
- i was a bit surprised If that
- was said, you couldn't make any restrictions,
- we now have a 200 billion guarantee from
- the National Bank, 9 billion from the federal government
- and then bonuses should continue to be
- paid out without restriction from the
- taxpayers who benefit from this guarantee and
- taxpayers,
- but these are instruments of the
- patient national railway card, already mentioned,
- which are available anyway, or
- this Ela, this
- liquidity support, a
- bank can withdraw from any major bank at any time
- in Switzerland it
- may not be that common, but
- abroad it may be possible
- say it happens again and again that
- maybe a bridging is needed
- we have increased this liquidity a bit
- you have to say
- compared to other countries
- the
- national bank makes liquidity available rather restrictively
- when there are bottlenecks
- or it is like that, for example in the UK
- or USA, that was also touched on somewhat,
- the principle applies, for example, whatever it
- takes, liquidity is simply
- buttered in, so to speak, in order
- to stabilize the problem and what we give is
- a guarantee given to the national government,
- not a guarantee to a
- bank but to the national bank
- and That's why it has
- nothing to do with this question. It would be different if
- the state now had to
- save Credit Suisse in a way, then
- these provisions on
- dividends and also on remuneration would
- have been applied, but this is about
- one Guarantee to the
- National Bank
- Banking Act, i.e. if a
- systemically relevant bank directly or
- indirectly state aid
- is granted from federal funds, the
- Federal Council ordered measures in the area of remuneration for the duration of the
- claimed support at the same time,
- so I actually think
- state aid is already being granted here, at least indirectly,
- but it is important to note that the
- liquidity support given by a
- central bank to a bank
- cannot
- be considered as such government intervention
- central banks provide
- liquidity support in the face of
- liquidity shortages in the face of
- market developments that is not
- comparable to a
- recapitalization or purchase of
- certain
- and so on that is a
- liquidity aid that is either against
- cholesterol now in this case
- against a
- privilege against a bankruptcy and
- that is not comparable to what is
- otherwise understood by a state aid
- exactly
- what the consequences of this merger will be for
- jobs in Switzerland many
- jobs are lost
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