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tevia's intellectual dishonesty

Sep 6th, 2019
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  1. + innit 10:19:37
  2. Now to be clear, nobody looks at anybody else's citations.
  3. It's all just trolling -- the entire internet filled with dishonest people.
  4. (Currently looking at: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/30/how-american-racism-influenced-hitler)
  5. + BadWolf 10:20:52
  6. Quite.
  7. + tevia 10:21:03
  8. You complaining about dishonest people is a deep lulz, innit
  9. + innit 10:21:25
  10. Why?
  11. + T1r3sias 10:21:33
  12. https://twitter.com/helenprejean/status/1169999144104202241?s=20
  13. @ xsnlx 10:21:53
  14. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-sharpiegate-alabama-coast-guard-hurricane-dorian-2019-9
  15. + tevia 10:22:36
  16. Because I've never seen you even remotely inspect your own biases, you act like your thinking process is pure and 100% unadulterated fact.
  17. + BadWolf 10:22:40
  18. innit: I do like it when people google themselves instead of making me do it for them.
  19. @ xsnlx 10:22:47
  20. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/09/06/white-house-announces-jared-kushners-former-coffee-boy-n...
  21. + BadWolf 10:22:52
  22. innit: Thankyou.
  23. @ xsnlx 10:22:57
  24. hiring the very best
  25. + tevia 10:23:02
  26. You ignore for the most trivial of reasons rather than engage in good faith
  27. + innit 10:23:06
  28. BadWolf: I am the one responsible for my own education.
  29. My request of you, in this case, is not one of challenging, but one of assistance.
  30. If you already have any handy citations available, it would be helpful.
  31. + BadWolf 10:23:50
  32. innit: Whatever floats you boat mate.
  33. + innit 10:24:05
  34. tevia: How is that an example of dishonesty?
  35. + T1r3sias 10:24:05
  36. Trump Supporters are racists.
  37. + innit 10:24:16
  38. BadWolf: I disliked that last post of yours.
  39. + BadWolf 10:24:33
  40. innit: Which one?
  41. + tevia 10:24:42
  42. innit, it is intellectual dishonesty
  43. + T1r3sias 10:24:43
  44. I don't care if they are racists because they are ignorant, or if they are racists because they are informed.
  45. + innit 10:24:48
  46. The one about the 'boat'.
  47. + T1r3sias 10:24:53
  48. The key fact is that they are racists
  49. + tevia 10:25:16
  50. T1r3sias> Trump Supporters are racists. < all of them? 100% racist?
  51. + innit 10:25:20
  52. tevia: What would be your definition of intellectual honesty?
  53. + T1r3sias 10:25:23
  54. Yes.
  55. + innit 10:25:24
  56. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intellectual_honesty
  57. + T1r3sias 10:25:33
  58. 100%
  59. + innit 10:25:34
  60. Here's Wikipedia's -- I haven't yet read it.
  61. + tevia 10:25:47
  62. T1r3sias, and supporters of other politicians, all equally share in that politicians flaws?
  63. + innit 10:25:55
  64. Intellectual honesty is an applied method of problem solving, characterized by an unbiased, honest attitude, which can be demonstrated in a number of different ways: One's personal faith, beliefs, or politics do not interfere with the pursuit of truth; Relevant facts and information are not purposefully omitted even when such things may contradict one's hypothesis; Facts are presented in an unbiased manner, and not twisted to give misleading impressions or to support one view over another; References, or earlier work, are acknowledged where possible, and plagiarism is avoided.
  65. + T1r3sias 10:25:57
  66. If you do racist things, you are racist.
  67. + BadWolf 10:26:10
  68. innit: Seems like an odd thing to take offence at. snowflake. Whatever floats your boat is a british idiom.
  69. + tevia 10:26:24
  70. Water ussually floats boats.
  71. + T1r3sias 10:26:26
  72. tevia Trumpism is based on racism. His core is raciism
  73. → TN_Drifter has joined
  74. ⓘ Raven`X gives voice to TN_Drifter
  75. + innit 10:26:36
  76. tevia: Wikipedia's definition appears to have nothing in common with your example.
  77. Do you dispute?
  78. + tevia 10:26:43
  79. T1r3sias, did you see my follow on question?
  80. + T1r3sias 10:26:43
  81. His entire platform is based on racism.
  82. + innit 10:26:55
  83. BadWolf, yesterday, you said you weren't a snowflake.
  84. @ xsnlx 10:26:57
  85. only 130,000 jobs created in August...a decling trend that's about 1/2 of what Obama averaged for his last 4 years
  86. + T1r3sias 10:26:57
  87. He is in politics because of racism.
  88. + innit 10:27:03
  89. Today, you're using snowflake as an insult.
  90. That is not-admirable.
  91. This is what your brain is doing after you made a claim and I asked if you had any handy citations.
  92. This entire episode can be judged as undesirable.
  93. + BadWolf 10:27:47
  94. I cant be fucking bothered to even argue this
  95. + tevia 10:27:47
  96. innit, I am not wikipedia, am I?
  97. + T1r3sias 10:27:50
  98. No other politician has a similar "flaw" at the core of their identity.
  99. + BadWolf 10:27:57
  100. So whatever floats your boat.
  101. + innit 10:28:00
  102. tevia: That is a fallacious response.
  103. + T1r3sias 10:28:02
  104. But thanks for the whataboutism
  105. + innit 10:28:05
  106. Fallacy one.
  107. tevia: Wikipedia's definition appears to have nothing in common with your example.
  108. Do you dispute?
  109. + tevia 10:28:21
  110. lol
  111. @ xsnlx 10:28:24
  112. brad70, the number of open positions has not
  113. * 10:28:25
  114. Ignoring tevia
  115. + innit 10:28:28
  116. tevia: I put you on ignore.
  117. + T1r3sias 10:28:38
  118. If you do racism you are racist.
  119. + innit 10:28:40
  120. You are unwilling or unable to continue a discussion you opened.
  121. + TN_Drifter 10:28:42
  122. lol
  123. i put you on ignore
  124. @ xsnlx 10:28:47
  125. Trump is a failure, a weak, petty bitch
  126. + TN_Drifter 10:28:48
  127. i like that
  128. i say.............good day!
  129. + T1r3sias 10:28:54
  130. Trumpism is racism.
  131. + innit 10:29:04
  132. It is noted that in the conversation about honesty, I am the only one who provided a citation.
  133. You didn't provide a citation, and when asked to respond to a citation from a leading source, you fallacious responded.
  134. ← MadCatX has left (Quit: AndroIRC - Android IRC Client ( http://www.androirc.com ))
  135. + innit 10:29:42
  136. If we look once more at the definition from Wikipedia about intellectual honesty, we'll see this was a violation:
  137. + BadWolf 10:29:58
  138. brad70: Employment was at an all time high when you still had slavery.
  139. @ xsnlx 10:30:08
  140. all of those $Trillions and he can barely do 1/2 as well as Obama
  141. * 10:30:08
  142. Ignoring BadWolf
  143. + innit 10:30:15
  144. BadWolf: I am putting you on ignore for 24 hours.
  145. I thought your responses were non-admirable.
  146. @ xsnlx 10:30:28
  147. $Trillions! and still shitting the bed
  148. + T1r3sias 10:30:40
  149. https://twitter.com/helenprejean/status/1169999144104202241?s=20
  150. @ xsnlx 10:31:20
  151. Faced with slumping crop prices, declining manufacturing and anemic domestic growth, Trump hopes Americans will be wowed by the 130,000 new jobs added in August. Look closer and you’ll see the cracks in the plaster.
  152. brad70, when will you stop making excuses for this miserable failure?
  153. U.S. manufacturing is already in recession
  154. U.S. transportation is already in recession
  155. + innit 10:32:32
  156. tevia: For your intellectual dishonesty: 1) "innit, I am not wikipedia, am I?" and 2) "lol", but since I don't have a history with you, I will ignore you for three days.
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