I have an idea for a future collaboration if you're up for it
I think I can draft up and come up with a great app. I also have the connections to get someone who can design the app.
ZenToday at 2:56 PM
girl like i said i am happy to work with you
MayhemToday at 2:56 PM
We can pool HoM and The Haven's members onto the app- you have roughly 5000 members, I have roughly 2000 members.
ZenToday at 2:57 PM
yeah and we have 1700 in retreat
we're down to like 3700 now
MayhemToday at 2:57 PM
By the time the app is finished, I estimate there will be 3,000 (thats a generous lowball) members who would be "first users" of the app
ZenToday at 2:58 PM
which is a huge first user base
MayhemToday at 2:58 PM
Yes.
ZenToday at 2:58 PM
would you do an alpha round
i'm assuming
MayhemToday at 2:58 PM
Oh yeah, all the testing and such.
ZenToday at 2:59 PM
right on
MayhemToday at 2:59 PM
Are you familiar with the Stigma app?
ZenToday at 2:59 PM
It sounds familiar but i can't think of it rn
MayhemToday at 2:59 PM
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/stigma-mood-tracker-journal/id971950522?mt=8
App Store
‎Stigma: Mood Tracker & Journal
‎~~~~ #1 RATED APP FOR MENTAL HEALTH ~~~~

Inspired by our personal struggles with anxiety, depression, and bipolar disorder, we created Stigma.

Stigma provides you a safe way to build your support network, journal what’s on your mind, and keep track of your mood.

~~~~...

ZenToday at 3:00 PM
oh that's really neat
MayhemToday at 3:03 PM
So here's my idea for an app:

Retain the "chatroom" feature of Discord.

Support system:
- Support rooms are private, not open and public like Discord. It should have a button "request help"
- This will "alert" all available Listeners and they can "turn off" the alert by taking the session.
- They can now have a private one-on-one session.

Support system 2 (Friend finder):
- Members enter in their "stats" - age, gender, interests.
- Bot system "matches" them up with someone that they can start having a conversation with.
- They can request a new "friend" every 72 hours.

Medication:
- Create "take your medication" alarms.

Mood tracker:
- Create a "mood tracker" that you can set to public or private. Give space to write a sentence or two, like a journal.

Achievements room:
- Write your positive achievements here (let people react with emojis)

Venting room:
- A place to rant (let people react with emojis to show "Im listening")
ZenToday at 3:08 PM
Love it
would you have like lounge spaces
where everyone could generally chat
i assume that's covered by "chatroom features"
MayhemToday at 3:14 PM
Yep, that's what I mean by chatroom features.
The way I have things sorted now is casual chat and serious chat.
Our server has a "don't be a dick, no graphic content, but mind your own triggers" rule.
ZenToday at 3:15 PM
:thumbsup:
MayhemToday at 3:15 PM
So serious chat, people do talk about things that are hard to read, but we explicitly dont let them glorify self-harm (including illegal drug use) or talk about sex and stuff in graphic detail
"I had a one night stand that didn't work out" is fine but "I fucked her in the butt hehe" is not
ZenToday at 3:15 PM
right
that makes sense to me
MayhemToday at 3:48 PM
So what do you think of that as an app for both our servers to merge into?
ZenToday at 3:48 PM
I really like it
MayhemToday at 3:48 PM
When would you like to do it?
ZenToday at 3:48 PM
Whenever we can start
MayhemToday at 3:49 PM
We could take this time to plan and then look for developers after the holidays?
ZenToday at 3:49 PM
that works for me
MayhemToday at 3:49 PM
I talked to one of my app guys that I work alongside and he said for a project this big, we're gonna wanna hire an agency because most developers will think they can handle a project like that and then abandon it
ZenToday at 3:50 PM
that makes sense
i bet i could get some donors for this specifically
MayhemToday at 3:51 PM
I asked him for roundabout ballpark ticket
ZenToday at 3:51 PM
if we have like paperwork and a presentation or something i could take it to fundraise early in the year
MayhemToday at 3:51 PM
And he said anyone that says they can do it for under $5k, run
ZenToday at 3:51 PM
ok so we're looking big ticket
we'll have to wait until we get donors
i dont' have the savings to do that
i wonder if we could kickstarter
:thinkingrick:
MayhemToday at 3:52 PM
Hm...
Im trying to think how long it would take me to save up for make an app like this
I'd have to take on some extra jobs but I can definitely try to swing something next year
ZenToday at 3:53 PM
i can raise it by the end of the year for sure, maybe mid year
(2019)
MayhemToday at 3:53 PM
Oh yeah
I can probably promise $1000 ~ $1500 out of my pocket
ZenToday at 3:54 PM
i could do that too
ok this is a plan, i like this
MayhemToday at 3:54 PM
Okay, let's break this down step by step.
ZenToday at 3:54 PM
i think a kickstarter with a demo would be really neat
but we'd need the dev first
so the first stage hire
MayhemToday at 3:55 PM
We have a budget of probably $5,000~$8,000 to build this app.

We need a designer to design the concept and make it pretty.
Like, design what the app should look like, what the features would visually look like
ZenToday at 3:55 PM
nod
MayhemToday at 3:56 PM
Then we need a team of developers (the agency) that is able to bring this to life (we'd review their portfolios of course)
I mean I think that's it.
ZenToday at 3:57 PM
Yeah i think so too
so fundraise, hire devs
:thumbsup:
MayhemToday at 3:58 PM
Mmhm
I wonder how I should break this news to Team Misfits lol
ZenToday at 3:58 PM
hmmmmmm so many options
MayhemToday at 3:59 PM
Loctos said, "Dont forget you have members that came here because they didn't like The Haven" though I know of people who went to The Haven because they didn't like Misfits soooo
ZenToday at 3:59 PM
i mean there's no harm in keeping the discords too
letting ppl choose
some ppl might prefer this
but yeah
we have a lot of exchange
MayhemToday at 4:00 PM
That's true, we can keep the Discord communities
There's just so many more opportunities on an independent platform
ZenToday at 4:00 PM
agreed
MayhemToday at 4:00 PM
For example, we're not tied to Discord's TOS
ZenToday at 4:00 PM
that's true, but we can limit what we offer on DIscord
like make it slimmer
so if ppl want support they need to go to the app
or something
MayhemToday at 4:01 PM
I mean, we can't offer a mood tracker on Discord
not in a clean way, at least
ZenToday at 4:01 PM
right
MayhemToday at 4:04 PM
Pretty sure Hastings is going to murder me for this lol
But
I know you're doing this out of passion and not ego
And i know Im doing this out of passion and not ego
So I think it'd be a good pairing
ZenToday at 4:04 PM
yeah i think we can do this
MayhemToday at 4:04 PM
What would you want to call it?
ZenToday at 4:04 PM
hmmmmmmmmm
now that's a big question
i just bought a logo


zshToday at 3:59 PM
But you could also just run your own "RocketChat" server which was discord before two developers stole the idea and created discord.
Rocketchat is independent of someone else's servers. It runs on your own so you can customize it all you want and make it unrecognizable as someone else's app
MayhemToday at 4:09 PM
I really like that logo
I like the big one better than the small one
ZenToday at 4:10 PM
yeah i have a lot of versions of the colors and ideas
the font is up for grabs
the only thing is i'm incorporated as the haven support inc
idk if that would have any effect on naming
MayhemToday at 4:11 PM
It wouldnt
You can literally incorporate as whatever the hell you want
ZenToday at 4:11 PM
then whatever
yeah
i just like the heart
i'm not tied to the name at all
MayhemToday at 4:12 PM
Yeah
I really love that logo tho
Good choice
And great designer
ZenToday at 4:12 PM
thanks :smile:
yeah i did a 99designs contest
MayhemToday at 4:14 PM
Whats that
ZenToday at 4:15 PM
https://99designs.com/
99designs
Logos, Web, Graphic Design & More. | 99designs
The top creative platform for custom graphic design: logos, websites and more. Hire a talented designer or start a design contest. 500k+ happy customers have used 99designs to grow their business.

MayhemToday at 4:16 PM
Huh that's pretty damn cool
ZenToday at 4:16 PM
right?
so i did a contest
and described what i wanted
and my style
then a bunch of poeple submitted ideas
and i picked this one
MayhemToday at 4:17 PM
How much was that design?
ZenToday at 4:18 PM
i think all told the contest and the logo and all the copyrights will be  like 700
MayhemToday at 4:18 PM
That's a $700 logo for sure though, its lit
ZenToday at 4:18 PM
ayyyyyy
MayhemToday at 4:18 PM
What about Be Heard for an app name
ZenToday at 4:18 PM
interesting
MayhemToday at 4:19 PM
Im cranking out my thesaurus
ZenToday at 4:19 PM
legit
i feel like be heard takes out the aspect of people being listeners
idk tho
MayhemToday at 4:20 PM
I thought Be Heard as the opposite of Listen
Because what happens when you call out to a listener, ideally?
You should be heard
ZenToday at 4:21 PM
i mean yeah i would put it on a short list
MayhemToday at 4:21 PM
Listen could also work
If the target audience errs mroe to "people willing to listen"
ZenToday at 4:21 PM
I like that
MayhemToday at 4:23 PM
Imma just sleep on a name, im much better at taglines and writing content than coming up with names lol
ZenToday at 4:23 PM
nod
we have time
what about
something like Reach
reach out to, for
MayhemToday at 4:23 PM
Within Reach
As in like, help is within reach
a listener is within reach
ZenToday at 4:24 PM
yeah
i like that direction, goes with the logo too
MayhemToday at 4:26 PM
Weeeeee
Okie, so like the app will be independent of Haven and House of Misfits but we're gonna give members the option of going to that app
ZenToday at 4:26 PM
yeah i think that makes sense
MayhemToday at 4:26 PM
P.S. I have a therapist that works with House of Misfits
ZenToday at 4:27 PM
orly? i'm actively keeping mine professional free
MayhemToday at 4:27 PM
He's familiar with Discord and all that jazz.... so I'm thinking... we can get him to test drive and endorse the app
And then he can pitch it to other therapists
ZenToday at 4:27 PM
heck yeah
MayhemToday at 4:27 PM
And therapists can recommend the app to their patients
ZenToday at 4:28 PM
that makes a lot of sense
MayhemToday at 4:28 PM
He isn't a Listener or anything, but he comes to our voice chat once a month to answer pre-submitted questions
And because of him, a lot of people have made the first step to seeking help
We use him as a way to tear down that wall between patient and therapist
ZenToday at 4:28 PM
that's awesome
MayhemToday at 4:29 PM
Theres also a few other therapists that are twitch streamers that I can ask him to pitch the app to
Or have his stream himself using the app
Since he has like 1700 followers or something
This is me, Zen. i can't stop marketing and selling stuff LOL
ZenToday at 4:30 PM
haha
it's a good thing
i am up to 11.6k on insta so we can get the word out there too
MayhemToday at 4:30 PM
Oh this would be cake with Instagram ads
Reddit ads too
ZenToday at 4:30 PM
yep
reddit has weird policies about healthcare stuff
MayhemToday at 4:31 PM
Its not healthcare tho
ZenToday at 4:31 PM
they rejectedf a few of my ads
MayhemToday at 4:31 PM
Wha
You have to watch your wording
I have never had an ad for HoM rejected
ZenToday at 4:31 PM
yeah bc it had like "mental health support" -- ohyeah i know now
but i mean no one is teaching me lol
i'm just sort of experimenting
MayhemToday at 4:32 PM
I just say things indirectly so its a loophole lmao
ZenToday at 4:32 PM
this is not what i was trained to do
twitter would work too
MayhemToday at 4:32 PM
Well don't worry, I will advertise the shit out of this app on a minimal budget lol
ZenToday at 4:32 PM
:thumbsup:
i have no doubts
man i'm at that moment where like do i nap
( i didn't sleep much )
or do i power thru
ugh
MayhemToday at 4:34 PM
It's 4:33pm you should power through and just go to bed earlier lo
ZenToday at 4:34 PM
an adderall it is
MayhemToday at 4:42 PM
Im excited about this!
And my developer friend said he's more than happy to do it for us
He runs an agency and has 10 years of experience
ZenToday at 4:42 PM
amazeballs!!!
MayhemToday at 4:46 PM
Im asking him right now for a quote
Negotiating with him right now xD He needs a copywriter cause his writing sucks butt so I'm willing to do pro bono work for him if he works cheaper
ZenToday at 4:56 PM
ooOooOOOOooo
MayhemToday at 5:01 PM
P.S.
Im a huge lover of weed now.
Best thing ever.
ZenToday at 5:02 PM
YASSS
:stoned:
:zenweed:
am currently stoned so
yay
MayhemToday at 5:04 PM
Ive been getting stoned every night when i take my meds
It gets rid of the panic attack and shaking side effect
ZenToday at 5:04 PM
nice dude, i'm glad it helps
MayhemToday at 5:06 PM
Only took me 27 years to figure it the fuck out