Official Unofficial March for Life Comment Transcript

It is in the interest of free speech that the comments on this post are protected and conserverd. This is a concrete transcript as of 1/23/2018 8:05AM

bchigheaglesMembers of the BC High community joined with other “pilgrims” from the Archdiocese of Boston for their annual Witness to Life pilgrimage to participate in the March for Life in Washington D.C.
@bostoncatholic #MarchForLife #WitnessToLife #Jesuit #BCHigh

itsseanconnor: So proud to see BC High representing at the March! You’re all in my prayers.

timwsullivan: As a proud alumnus, this does not represent me or a significant majority of our community.

ls2277: This is completely inappropriate. So sad that these young men aren’t being taught to respect women’s independence and right to choose.

kinkygizman:Today is about women and their civil rights. What a shame you chose to post this and tarnish the reputation of your school.

shaezors_edge: I agree @ls2277, men of @bchigheagles, talk and listen to women .... and you will learn to respect them and their choices, whether or not you agree with that choice.

zoeswensong@bchigheagles: I assume you will also be posting photos of your students and/or alumni at the Women’s March? Or are you not interested in the young men that supporting women’s rights?

zoeswensong@bchigheagles: I assume you will also be posting photos of your students and/or alumni at the Women’s March? Or are you not interested in the young men that are supporting women’s rights?
nick_greeneDisappointed.

ergropman: Teenage boys are not experts on women’s bodies- as educators, you should know that.

beataarezu: As educators, you hold such a powerful influence over the next generation of men. I’m disappointed to see you’ve used that influence to encourage young boys to feel comfortable taking control of women’s bodies and choices. You have abandoned your responsibility.

laidlera: Wow! As a proud alumni, I’m shocked and disappointed at this post.

jdipietro18@timwsullivan @ls2277 @kinkygizman @shaezors_edge @ergropman @beataarezu @laidlera: As a senior at BC High, I’m PROUD that the school is willing to give its students the opportunity to express their beliefs on such a loaded issue. Allowing students to express their views doesn’t at all “tarnish the reputation” of our students or our school.

mark_lugas18As: a current senior here at BC High, I too am proud to see a Catholic high school represent Catholic values by sending its students on a trip to the March for Life. I know many of the students who went on the trip, and a good number of them are pro-choice. The beauty of this is that BC High encourages an open dialogue between different viewpoints, and does not insist on pushing a certain agenda. It is truly a shame to see so many alumni expressing disappointment in their former school for allowing freedom of speech, one of our most treasured values as Americans. Overall, I would say that any alumni who are “ashamed” of BC High because of this have not lived up to the “Open to Growth” aspect of the Graduate at Graduation, and should possibly consider listening to what those they disagree with have to say, even if they are not looking to be persuaded.

_todd_37: Shut up u feminazi. These boys have a right to march for what they believe. U dont see them bashing u for marching for women saying “you aren’t respecting men” you’re ignorant and thats that @all the women who commented on this
talbert4@laidlera as a proud alumnus you should know the values supported by a catholic school. Had your time at BCH been spent fruitfully, maybe you would value life too

n_flaherty617@beataarezu: As a proud BC High student who attended this beautiful event, I have the greatest gratitude for the school to allow us young men, although we may not know the full anatomy of a woman’s body, to exercise our right to express our own opinions. I can speak on behalf of many to all of the students that attended that it was purely our choice to take this pilgrimage. Going forward, the sacredness of life is not only a cornerstone of the Catholic Church and a cornerstone of BC High teaching as well, but a moral issue of helping to give a voice to those who do not have one. Concerning those graduates who do not believe in giving a child the chance to live, if you did not agree with what BC High had to offer through our teachings not only in the classrooms, but through our faith as well, there were plenty other choices of schools to attend. But, through attending BC High, you not only made a commitment to live up to its standards, but to the standards of the Catholic Church. I am disappointed and offended that you feel as if we, the attending students of this march, were not capable of making our own decisions and expressing our own opinions.

_todd_37: As a proud citizen of america, i hate you @laidlera

owen.hunt7: This comment section shows why BC High has failed with it’s Grad at Grad mission statement. Many of the “proud alumnus’” don’t seem to be very keen on being “Open to Growth”, “Loving”, or “Committed to doing Justice”.

owen.hunt7@owen.hunt7: As Well as “Religious”

owen.hunt7@n_flaherty617: amen

mac.mcgee: The fundamental principle of the Catholic Church is the life and dignity of the human person. As a Jesuit school, it would be wrong to NOT send a group of students to this event. BC High seeks to create men for and with others, men that stand with the vulnerable. There is not a more vulnerable group on this earth than the unborn.

_todd_37: You have abandoned your iq as your comment is highly cancerous. I beg u to please shut your mouth @beataarezu

mattronayne: "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I dedicated you, a prophet to the nations I appointed you" (Jeremiah 1:5). As a BCHS senior who attended the #MarchForLife for the second time this year, I could not be more proud of my school than now. As a Catholic school, BCHS has taught me that every human deserves the right to their God given life and dignity. I decided to attend the March on my own will. Whether or not you personally profess such believes, you must respect the values of the students, BCHS, and the Catholic Church. We are the pro-life generation. #AMDG

_todd_37@kinkygizman: you have no civil rights because of your username. Are you kinky? But for real shut up women and men have the same fucking rights and these boys can believe what they want. Read the constitution u cotton headed ninny muggin

declan_leary@ergropman: who says they are?

alexambraziejus@ls2277: On the contrary, we are frequently taught to respect a women’s independence. However, that is not what this post or The March for Life is about. In fact, it is about the sanctity of life and preserving human life. It is fine to disagree with the church and BCH on the premise that life begins at the moment of inception — that is your right that is endowed by the Constitution — but you cannot deny that abortion ends a potential human life, something you, as a human, and the other so-called BCH alumnus should want to protect.

declan_leary@timwsullivan: if you are a proud alumnus of a Catholic institution, nothing should make you more proud than to see the young men of that institution standing up against a culture of death in defense of life, love, and the message of Christ. As a proud alumnus myself (and, as it happens, the founder of BC High Students for Life) I am immensely proud of the boys who went on this March and continue to do the work of Christ in the face of hatred and malice. We pray for you and all who have been led astray.

jeff.pacheco67@mattronayne: factual. My man Ronayne preaching

mattronayne@mattronayne: *beliefs

a.cosentino@talbert4: one can spend his time at BC High fruitfully and not adhere to catholic beliefs — perhaps he should not be shocked that the school is catholic, but he has every right to express his disappointment

jamiepapasodero5: Glad to see the alumni care about the community when it doesn't align with their own political agenda. It is moments like these that show the true strengths of the community through it's diversity of opinion and collaboration of thought, not through the degrading of a few who failed to be "Open to Growth." As a current senior, I think I speak for the fellow student body that we are proud to be active, involved, and open to differing opinions. It is also moments like these that reveal who truly lives out the characteristics of a BCH man, and how some have failed in the pursuit.

a.cosentino@_todd_37: kindly stop commenting, you’re not funny or helpful

talbert4@a.cosentino: thank you for your unnecessary comment, Anthony. Well noted.

andrew_torrey: As a current senior at BCHS in ashamed, not with the fine men of our institution, but the alumnus of this thread who can't open up. I'm proud of my fellow classmates @n_flaherty617 @mattronayne @mark_lugas18 for standing up for our school. I am a pro choice believer, but I believe in freedom of speech. More importantly I believe in compromise. We shape our countries future ladies and gentlemen and this conversation has shown spurts of greatness and spurts of shame. BCHS is a catholic school and as a On catholic I do find I don't believe in many of its teaching however I am opening to listen and debate and am open to having my mind changed by my counterpart classmates. Open discussion and openness to other ideas is the only way we shall grow as a community. If you cannot handle our school sharing their identity and making their voice heard, then go make ur voice heard at the women's march like I did. I may be pro choice but I believe in what BCHS was doing on this pilgrimage, encouraging debate and change.

a.cosentino@owen.hunt7: it is probably unfair to call someone’s education (or the school that provides it) a failure because they are expressing their viewpoint. There are different ways of doing justice, and BCH does not demand strict adherence to catholic beliefs to receive a diploma

jackbracher@zoeswensong: Throughout my education at BC High, I️ have been taught the importance of being a man for others. Over the past 4 years, the school has given me the opportunity to travel to places such as Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, Camden, NJ, and here at home in Boston to both recognize, and combat issues caused by systemic inequality and injustice. To say that BC High does not educate its students to be cognizant of gender issues is wrong. Understandably, your unfamiliarity plagues your reasoning and judgement of our education. Much of our religious education has focused on identifying and advocating against gender inequality caused by rape culture and sexism. Although you disagree with the politics of abortion, the students were there because God’s love sees no color, religion, gender, or creed. God’s love is abundant and unconditional, and that’s why the students were there, NOT because they think that women are inferior.

michaelpsheahan@zoeswensong: As a student at BC High, we are taught daily about women’s rights and that men and women are equal under God and as a school and student body believe that. It may not have been posted, but there are countless students (and alumnus) that partake in the Women’s March every year. BC High has done a great job educating us students on women’s rights and they continue to make it a major point of emphasis in their teaching. Could it be that the students did not get together for a group photo at the Women’s March but did at the March for Life? I think there is a good chance of that.

_todd_37: Im gonna kindly do what i want buddy @a.cosentino

owen.hunt7@a.cosentino: didn’t necessarily call the education a failure. I called the mission statement a failure. Also, im not demanding that the alumnus’s change their view point. I’m just pointing out that we as individuals don’t have to subscribe to one specific way of viewing things.

a.cosentino@_todd_37: I would remind you, kindly of course, that your conduct on social media (as a BCH student) is “subject to review by adult member of the BC High community” per the handbook you signed. Please stop embarrassing yourself and your classmates.

michaelpsheahan@ergropman: As a senior at BCH, I agree that we are not experts of a woman’s body. However, the March for Life is not about being an expert of a woman’s body or understanding the hardships of carrying and delivering a human into the world, it’s about preserving any and all life, even potential lives. The church teaching, which is fundamental to the school’s identity as a Jesuit high school, clearly sides with pro-life as the pro-Life stance focuses on preserving a potential life. Even going away from the school’s teaching, we’ve developed a sense of what we believe in as individuals. If we believe in something, then it is our right to voice our opinion as citizens. We may not be experts of a woman’s body, but we know enough to understand that abortion not only takes away a potential life, but could also cause damages to a woman’s body in the process. The individuals that went to the March for Life believe in preserving life, as does the school, so the school praised those who went and spread not only the school’s teaching, but the Catholic Church’s as well.

max_kouroriez@andrew_torrey: well said, no matter what side you are on I think dialogue is the best way to bridge divides. I’d also like to point out that one of our schools greatest resources is our alumni, especially when it comes to money...
ls2277@alexambraziejus the march for life isn’t just about the sanctity of life. It’s about opposing the legality of abortion, and therefore about the right of other women to choose what is right for them. These are people marching about personal, private decisions that have nothing to do with them or their own beliefs.

alexambraziejus@ls2277: marching against the legality of abortion which, if overturned, would protect innocent, unborn babies lives, no? Therefore, marching against the legality of abortion is the same thing as marching to protect the sanctity of unborn infant’s lives. And these people marching believe that abortion affects their lives because it threatens the lives of other humans, something they wish to preserve and protect in all circumstances, not just when it is convenient.

n_flaherty617@ls2277: In all politeness, any march or opposition to any injustice one sees is open to their own beliefs of what they are marching for. It is unfair of you to hastily generalize and assume you know what our intentions were and what we fight for given the fact that you have never met us and do not know who we are and what we stand for.

michaelpsheahan@ls2277: Abortion: the deliberate termination of a human pregnancy. By definition an abortion terminates a life, and by opposing the legality of abortion, these individuals and BC High oppose the termination of life, which falls in line with the Catholic teaching about the sanctity of life and the Church’s stance on abortion. Also, just because men do not become pregnant, that does not mean men are not involved or cannot be involved in issues they believe in and want to take a stance in. It isn’t about choosing what is right for women, it is about what is right for the human being developed. You can disagree all you want, but that is what our school and many of the students at our school believe in and are willing to stand up and fight for.

ashleyy_hayess: Coming from a woman this is really sad to see. You're teaching a group of young men that invalidating women's rights is ok, when in reality we need them to help us fight to make males and females equal. It seems like it should be a given that people are equal to other people, yet women are payed less for doing the same jobs, viewed as inferior to men and a whole host of other things our world should be ashamed of. Men shouldn't be involved with the pro-life versus pro-choice debate. at. all. This doesn't involve you. Women suffer all around the world because of men controlling things they shouldn't. Last time I checked the only way men are technically involved in the creation of a child is because you've got sperm. Congrats! That's your only contribution. Men don't have to carry a child for 9 months. Men don't deal with child birth. Men don't deal with the physical and emotional toll it has on a woman to bear a child. Without even knowing the circumstances of the pregnancy, you want to take all options away from women to abort the child? You want to tell me it's your decision, a man's decision, to force a woman to carry a child for NINE months? Say a woman was raped and she got pregnant by the rapist. You mean to tell me you're going to make her keep that child inside of her for months on end. A constant reminder of the horrible thing that happened to her? That's just wrong. Situations matter.

ashleyy_hayess: Being pro-choice doesn't mean you personally would abort a child. It means that you support women everywhere and give them options to deal with a pregnancy in the best way possible. By stating you're pro life, you are immediately invalidating womens rights to their own body. Whether you're from a catholic school or not doesn't mean you have a say in this or that's what you have to believe. I'm from nda (also a catholic school, if you weren't aware) and I, along with the MAJORITY of our school, am pro choice, regardless of the fact we are taught to be pro life in school. Religion aside, pro life is basically taking basic rights away from women. If men were capable of bearing a child this wouldn't even be a debate. If men could menstruate, sanitary products would be free and no longer considered a "luxury."
michaelpsheahan@ashleyy_hayess My issue is that this is a Catholic School, what do you expect BC High to teach and to support? Supporting the Catholic teaching is what BC High as a Catholic School is supposed to do. Just because the school supports it does not mean everyone within the school does. Each student has an individual opinion. Yes men don’t carry the baby for 9 months and men don’t undergo the effects of carrying a baby but at the same time, that baby is equal parts the Man’s and the Woman’s. Those who are saying they are Pro-Life aren’t saying it’s easy or even desirable, it’s just what we believe is right.

stephenguaragna: This comment section is electric

n_flaherty617@ashleyy_hayess: It is naive of you to say that one does not have a say in a certain matter. Like you, I am a citizen of the United States of America and I am blessed to have the liberty and freedom to openly express my opinions whether they align with yours or not.

ashleyy_hayess@michaelpsheahan: All i'm saying is that a lot of men's opinions would change really quick if this directly effected them. If women ever tried to tell men that they didn't have the right to their own body it would start WW3. Since a man can't personally experience this, think about it like your sister, aunt, friend, girlfriend whatever, a female in your life is being put in this position. You really think it's morally best to strip them of their rights just because a few cells decided to have a party in there? I fully aware of what the catholic church believes in and I guess if you're a die hard, devout catholic, my words will mean nothing, but the more people that realize this is wrong, the closer we are to a necessary change.

lily_biagini: Pro-choice is NOT pro-abortion (contrary to what our TEXTBOOKS say). It means that women get a CHOICE. If someone is raped, the defence is that it’s not the child’s fault. So is it the mother’s? Because she’s being punished by going through nine months of pain and suffering with a CONSTANT reminder every day. No one’s stopping guys from jacking off and their sperm is alive and could develop into a human being. By taking away someone’s choice, it is disrespectful and downright cruel. We own our own bodies. And what we do with them is our choice. Sorry, I didn’t realise that an unborn, unfeeling being is more important than our safety, health, and mental stability to you all.

jpmarino18@laidlera: I’m glad ur shocked that a catholic school with a pro-life president decided to show everyone our stance on the issue. When you go to a catholic school don’t be surprised that they show support for catholic ideals. This is no secret.

thenickdodge@stephenguaragna: I'm on the edge of my seat

tj_jala@kinkygizman: Our reputation is men for others. How dare you try to say that about BCHigh. People are allowed to openly express their beliefs and opinions.

_hannahmarino@ashleyy_hayess: I know that we do not know each other, but I have read your above comments and I feel compelled to answer. You said “Invalidating women’s rights.” What about invalidating the baby’s rights? That baby has a right to life. By killing the baby, he or she is never given the chance to life, which is our fundamental right as humans. As a matter of fact, men should be involved with the abortion debate. Men contribute more than the sperm. Half of their genes go to that baby, so he has the same amount of rights over that baby as the mother does. Neither parent has more or less rights over the baby. Yes, women do carry the baby during its first 9 months. But babies can’t survive without love and care. And that love comes from both parents. Not just the mother. You say that men and women should be equal, which is true, but then you say that men can not have an opinion on the topic and fight for that opinion. When you say “you want to tell me it’s your decision, a man’s decision, to force a woman to carry a child for nine months” it’s not just a man’s decision. What about the women that were at the march for life too? As for rape, it’s awful. No woman should be violated like that. But it’s wrong for a victim of violence to go around and inflict violence on other innocent humans. Why does the baby have less value or less right to life because of the way it was conceived? Pro life is not basically taking basic rights away from women. Pro life is honoring the value and dignity of a human life at all stages. The people at the march are pro life and pro women. You can be a guy and stand up for other people’s rights too. Tell me if I am wrong, but there were men at the women’s march. They are not women but they can stand up for what they believe to be wrong for women. But they don’t have the same bodily functions as girls so how can they understand? That is basically your argument. I’m sorry but your argument has no validity. No woman has the right to end a life, to kill her own son or daughter, no matter what. And lastly, I’d be happy to share more information with you on all of this, if you choose to inform yourself.

_hannahmarino: ^ @lily_biagini

owen.hunt7@lily_biagini: considering an egg needs to be present in order for a child to be conceived, I think masturbation has no correlation with abortion

molllybruce: Slow down tigers

owen.hunt7@_hannahmarino: god bless your soul

brian_kelly47: Hey

kaitlin_mccormick: so how about the pats

owen.hunt7@brian_kelly47: I disagree

e.antelo@brian_kelly47: waddup BK???

_todd_37Oh: shit sorry man report me. See u in tv production tmrw friend😉 @a.cosentino

michaelpsheahan@ashleyy_hayess: I’m defending my school here, yes I am pro-life and that’s (in short) because I believe that the creation of a baby is not just “a few cells having a party,” it’s a life. That is a living human being in there and I think being able to abort that baby is like giving a person the option to kill a human. With me defending my school, I go to a Catholic school and although I may not be the most devout Catholic in the world, BC High is quite clearly Catholic and part of it’s mission is to educate men according to Catholic Teaching and Jesuit ideals. A Catholic teaching is that all life is valuable, and those cells having a party are actually a life. Furthermore, it is undeniable that extreme cases exist (such as rape which you mentioned). Although cases like that do exist and are awful, it does not take away from the life being created. Again, a life is a life. If you focus on a broader spectrum and look at the majority of unplanned pregnancies, most are a product of consensual intercourse. My last thing is that, if you truly want equality then all people need to be equal on all fields, which means men and women should have an input on things, even topics such as abortion. Having a penis does not rescind a man’s opinion or belief.

lily_biagini@owen.hunt7: if you all think a rapist deserves to have a say in whether or not the victim should suffer and carry a child and destroy her life you are so wrong.

lily_biagini@owen.hunt7: lmao you missed the entire point

_hannahmarino@lily_biagini: The rapist deserves to be punished. The woman deserves help. The baby deserves life. And since when do babies destroy women’s lives?

tj_jala@beataarezu: As a bc high student, we are not taught to "feel comfortable with our bodies". We are taught to have respect and dignity for women. Coming from a South East Asian background, killing life means killing another soul, and that soul will never be able to get the chance to experience life. In my religion, being a human is a privilege and is considered lucky. We understand the struggles of women and we take that into account, but we also have our own opinions. BC High has a high respect for life, and has the right to their own opinion. So, maby u can go out into the world, step into a place where there is extreme poverty, and realize how lucky you are to live.

lily_biagini@n_flaherty617: and it’s naive to think women shouldn’t have a choice. Women are citizens of the United States of America and we are blessed to have the liberty and freedom to openly express our opinions and rights over our OWN BODIES whether they align with yours or not.

lily_biagini@_hannahmarino: when a woman is forced to go through the pain of childbirth and a woman is forced to pay medical bills for a child she isn’t ready for and she doesn’t want.

tj_jala@beataarezu: *"feel comfortable taking control in women's bodies" BC High literally is the opposite of that. If you don't know what the school teaches, don't even say it.

n_flaherty617@lily_biagini: thank you for repeating exactly what I just said. I greatly appreciate it

lily_biagini@n_flaherty617: no problem. Happy to help.

mac.mcgee@_hannahmarino: amen

tj_jala@laidlera: shame on you for not supporting life. You should be thankful you are living right now. Had your mother got an abortion, you would've never lived to go to the greatest high school in the country.

brendancurry510: You are missing the point of this post. This school instagram account is to recognize the achievements of the students, faculty and all others who are close to the school. You have corrupted the message of recognition to members of our community who have made an informed decision to stand up for something they see as right. Everything in these arguments is debatable except for the fact that you have sullied our message and that we as the BCHigh community deserve to praise those who go beyond the wall of our school.

lily_biagini@michaelpsheahan: I personally feel that a rapist shouldn’t be involved in a woman’s decision of whether or not to keep the baby but hey you do you

michaelpsheahan@lily_biagini: So you would rather terminate an innocent child, a baby literally made of your genetics, and risk permanent damage to a woman that could effect their ability to give birth when they are ready for a baby

lily_biagini@michaelpsheahan: I never said I would rather it. I said women deserve a CHOICE. And it’s their body and if it’s not right for them then it’s. It doesn’t feel for weeks. I don’t know about you but I wouldn’t want a rapist’s genetics mixed with mine.

ashleyy_hayess@michaelpsheahan: it's not that men should have opinions on this. we're all citizens in the U.S. we all have freedom of speech and the right to believe what we want, but if your school is not only teaching to be pro life but encouraging it even further by planning a trip to d.c. to support to the march it isn't doing the men of our generation any good. you can't honestly tell me every person in bch is prolife because that's what they're taught. it's more than that. it's the fact they offered this field trip that really infuriates me. i understand that many of you seem to support this and there's nothing i can do to change that but give you another view besides just a purely catholic based one. yes intercourse can result in a child but so can rape. intercourse in itself isn't limited to just two people trying to have a child. i think we all know that. accidents can happen. people get pregnant by accident all the time whether it was because of inadequate birth control or a bunch of other scenarios. either way people can be financially, emotionally, and physically not about to care and support a child. that's why women need the option. prenatal vitamins are important. doctors appointments are necessary. all expensive things that people might not be able to afford or have at their disposal. because of this and many women not being able to have a choice, many find ways to self abort. which is very dangerous and horrible that they would put themselves through that amount of pain and danger because that's the only loophole they can find. women shouldn't be put in this position.

marygil21@ashleyy_hayess: you are my hero

michaelpsheahan@lily_biagini: not anywhere did I say that a rapist should choose whether a woman should have a baby. I actually said, on the contrary, that rape is awful. Sorry for the confusion there, I don’t see where you got that from but I’ll take your word for it. To clarify, I believe that regardless of how the baby is conceived, that once conceived the baby is living. Once living it is unjust to terminate or end that life. Although you may deem that baby unconscious and less worthy of living than a person outside of the womb, a life is a life. Regardless of whether the baby is a product of consensual sex or an awful and rightfully-punishable crime such as rape, the baby is living and therefore should not be killed.

ashleyy_hayess@n_flaherty617: it's naive of me to say that men can't control what women do with their bodies? i'm not talking about men not being able to have a say in something that effects all people. i'm saying that men don't really have a place here since this doesn't have a real impact on them. yes you have the freedom of speech and you are entitled to your opinions but in the same way i am able to contradict them and say what i believe.

lily_biagini@michaelpsheahan: my apologies, I misread the last sentence. My bad. But I still truly believe a woman should not be forced to suffer. I agree it’s not the baby’s fault. But is it the woman’s?
marygil21Choice is a persons god given ability and is a foundation of their dignity, god gave us the greatest gift of free will for a reason

tj_jala@jakezipoli: this commentary is unbelievable. Honestly.

aidanosullivann@ashleyy_hayess: As an ever evolving world, BC High has constantly strived to stay true to their roots. From remaining in the inner city and a single sex school it is evident that it is something they value. As a Catholic Institution, advocating for life is completely within their right but also their duty. In front of the United States Congress, Pope Francis said "The Golden Rule also reminds us that it is our responsibility to protect and defend human life at each and every stage of its development." Every single child is created in Gods image. The morality of abortion however, does not change. If one was to stick a knife through a child when it was just out of the womb it would be first degree murder, but it was killed in the womb it should be a human right? There are charities that exist that provide financial aid to women to are carrying a child that may be an financial burden to them. It is quite hypocritical to say that if you are pro life you are violating a woman's right to their body because pro choice essentially says that a child's rights is less important and worthy than a woman's convenience. Nevertheless, BC High as a Catholic school is supporting the words of our Pope in almost the exact same spot he spoke them.

michaelallen333: "It is a tragedy to take the life of another so that you may live as you wish"- Saint Teresa of Calcutta

_hannahmarino@marygil21: god gave us the right to life too

michaelpsheahan@ashleyy_hayess: As I said above, I said most accidental pregnancies are caused by consensual sex. Obviously accidents happen, and accidents normally do not lead to great situations, such as your example where people are not financially able to support a child. However, my stance is that a baby is living once conceived and that I don’t believe it is right or just to terminate that baby’s life because of financial, emotional, or physical circumstance. There are other options, namely adoption. That baby deserves a chance at life and aborting that baby takes away their chance.

mac.mcgee@marygil21: you are correct in saying that God gives all humans free will. That right, however, was not intended to be used to terminate something even more precious: human life

marygil21@_hannahmarino: I see your point and I respect it but not everyone in our country is catholic, isn't our duty to look out for the needs of our fellow citizens

michaelpsheahan@lily_biagini: It’s neither the baby’s fault nor the woman’s, and obviously an undesired baby is not ideal but once conceived it is living. I believe woman should not suffer as well but at the same time, I believe that a life outweighs pain. That last sentence probably came out wrong I couldn’t think of a better way to word it.

_hannahmarino@marygil21: but pro life is not a religious issue. It’s an issue of what is the value of any human life which pertains to all humans, whatever religions they are

lily_biagini@michaelpsheahan: If you had a baby sister, would you want to see her suffer and cry, feeling hopeless knowing she’s forced to carry out a pregnancy when she was raped?

andrew_torrey: "*Promiscuous music as the camera zooms in on the building* Hi welcome to chilis🙃"

michaelpsheahan@lily_biagini: I do have a sister, and no I do not want to see her raped and knocked up. I wouldn’t want that to happen to anyone. But at the same time I would want her to carry that baby and raise it like the son or daughter it would be to her. That baby, regardless of the father (even if the father is a sack of shit) would be her son or daughter, and aborting that baby not only would kill her son or daughter, but could also cause damages to her so when she does want to have a baby, she is unable to because of the abortion

declan_leary@marygil21: free will does not mean free reign to do as you please. We are bound by moral law. Violation of that moral law (sin) leads to damnation. Deny God and He will deny you.

lily_biagini@michaelpsheahan: I just feel that no one should be forced to do something they’re not comfortable with. I’m not saying I’m pro-abortion. I’m just saying I think a choice should be available.
marygil21@declan_leary I hear you I'm honestly torn

declan_leary@ashleyy_hayess: white people shouldn't be involved with the slavery versus abolition debate. At. All. This doesn't involve you... your logic doesn't seem so logical now hmm?

declan_leary@marygil21: if you're torn you can always feel free to talk to me directly. We can discuss why you feel pulled each way and i can offer whatever advice I have

michaelpsheahan@lily_biagini: I just don’t believe having the choice to end an innocent life is right, obviously people are entitled to stand by what they believe, and I’m just gonna stand by mine

salibruh: @bchmemes

marygil21: I sense a school assembly in our near future

ashleyy_hayess@_hannahmarino: i understand where you are coming from but only from a religious stand point. besides from the fact that catholics believe from womb to tomb people have rights. i believe that all women should have the choice and resources available to do what they please with their bodies. if we take out the religious aspect completely. you're saying that a group of cells that, happens to contain a fertilized egg, is equal to the life of a person alive and a part of this world today? women are put in awful situations all the time revolving around pregnancies. whether it was rape, a surprise, a simple fluke because of ineffective birth control it doesn't matter the situation some people feel the need to abort a child. many of these same women don't have the resources so they turn to self inflicting ways to abort their unborn child. this is a sickening position that women are put in. abortion wouldn't be legal if it was murder. a mother killing her 5 year old son is wildly different than a mother aborting a child because she's not financially, emotionally, or physically able to support and care for a child at that given moment. pregnancy is a huge commitment and not being ready for something like that can mess up your entire life. as for my argument in general i am talking about this school and this field trip. it's very shocking and upsetting to see a brother school of mine not only support but actively encourage the young men of this generation to invalidate a woman's rights to her own body. also the love and care you describe is in a perfect world. most people looking for an abortion are not able to provide that, hence the need to get rid of the child. and yes i'm fully aware that there were men at the women's march. i applaud them for supporting us women in keeping our basic human rights. i happily decline your offer to "educate" me further on the topic. i go to a catholic school. i know the position how it stands from both sides and i know where i stand. pro choice.

lily_biagini@michaelpsheahan: I don’t stand by it, I would never get one no matter the circumstances. I’m never going to say it’s right, but I’m also never going to say it’s wrong. I just believe someone deserves to have a choice.

jakezipoli@tj_jala: shit dude someone’s comment got 29 likes

lily_biagini@declan_leary: I’m not even trying to be mean or rude or disrespectful but I’m actually so confused by that comment.

michaelallen333: It's not about "men saying women can't choose" it's about keeping a baby alive. It has the most affect on a new child. If you were to talk to the unborn child and complain to she or he and ask if there was any way that he or she be okay with being killed in order to avoid your "pain and suffering" the baby still would not accept being killed. It usually isn't wise to compare someone else's pain and suffering to another, however the taking of a life is far beyond any other suffering or pain, because it eliminates the future possibility of anything good or bright. Sure the possibility of pain or evil or sorrow is eliminated, but what of the possibilities? What if the child would become self made and cure cancer? What if the child were to prevent another from committing suicide? We as human beings have no right to decide anyone else's future. Everyone always complains about other people making decisions that are rightfully someone else's. It is absolutely worth the nine months of pain and suffering in order to give another human being a chance at life, because as we all know there's only one chance. There's only one life. And we complain about it being short, but at least we have one. There's no argument right now because this isn't a debate, it's a matter of fact. I'm not taking a side that is putting down the rights of women, I'm not saying I know the pain and suffering of childbirth, because I am not a female. However I am a human being. And no matter what you believe, murder is wrong. And although it is not seen as murder now, it absolutely is. People are self centered and selfish. This isn't an anti women's choice March, it's a pro life march. It's not against the topic of choice or understanding, it's against death that can be avoided, against death that is intentionally caused. There needs to be less hate and more love, less selfishness and more compassion. We need to focus less on our different beliefs and worry more about the most important and basic thing in everyone's life- LIFE. Enough of this now because it is completely a waste of time. ✝️

declan_leary@lily_biagini: this is a dangerous rejection of concrete moral thought

maria_faustina23@michaelallen333: 👏👏👏

declan_leary@lily_biagini: I'm pointing out the obvious fallacy and absurdity in Ms. Hayes' assertion that only those directly affected by an injustice are allowed to speak out on it

michaelpsheahan@lily_biagini: I respect that belief and won’t challenge it, I just didn’t like how everything felt like an attack on my school and I wasn’t going to stand by and watch the school I’ve gone to for 6 years’s reputation being challenged

ashleyy_hayess@michaelpsheahan: how about teen pregnancy? they not mostly not financially, emotionally and physically ready to have a child, yet teen pregnancy is an ongoing problem. i respect that your opinion is different than mine but all of the options you are giving are not necessarily options for everyone. adoption is an option that people could take but that still caused them to have to carry the child, spend money on all the doctors appointments, supplements, child birth and then the emotional trauma of your child then being taken away from you. after 9 months you develop a connection whether you want to or not. i believe abortion shouldn't be allowed past a certain point in the pregnancy unlike some state but at a certain point it's just cells and you don't have an attachment to what's inside of you. especially if you know this is something you're not ready for and the child wouldn't get what it needed when it was born then i don't see the problem. we obviously disagree on the basic premise of this topic and we could go on for hours debating this but in gonna say agree to disagree cause we're not helping anyone by arguing back and forth we aren't convincing each other of anything.

_hannahmarino@ashleyy_hayess: I’m sorry but how can you say “your saying a group of cells that, happens to contain a fertilized egg, is equal to the life of a person alive and a part of this world today”? Science states and has proved that life begins at conception. That is not only a religious belief. I think you mean to say “a baby” instead of “group of cells that happen to contain a fertilized egg”. Again, no matter the way of conceiving, a baby is a baby, which is human and has the same rights that all humans have. There are many pro life organizations that help women who can not care for their baby during a pregnancy and or after. If a woman does not want to care for or can’t care for the baby after it is born, there is adoption. Abortion is murder though. Science states that it is a human life. Murder is killing a life. This school gave these guys the opportunity to go on this trip to DC to stand up in what they believe in. If guys at BC High did not agree with pro life views, they did not need to attend. When you say bchigh actively encouraged them to “invalidate a woman’s rights to her own body” you’re wrong. BC High invited them to go to DC to stand up for what they believe in and use their right of free speech and peaceful protest. Also, a woman has no rights over another humans body, not even if that other human is inside of her. If women are able to kill their babies, that gives them more rights than the rest of the population. Others can not kill people. Why should women have the right to kill someone then? You also say that the love and care I talked about is in a perfect world and not everyone can provide that. Everyone can provide love. No matter what. There are many organizations that can help provide care for the mother and her baby. BTW, I go to a catholic school too. going to a catholic school does not mean you know how each position stands.

ashleyy_hayess@aidanosullivann: i'm not against bch teaching that abortion is bad. nda does the same thing. what i'm against is your school actively encouraging the pro life stance by providing this field trip. everyone has their own religious views but that pro life march was not purely religious. many people there were not catholics. bch shouldn't have dragged politics into a school environment. i am not saying abortion is just right up until childbirth. there is a point where it should be illegal and i agree with you on that a baby just out of the womb should have the same rights as a baby that's 5-6 months developed. i think abortion is ok and should be an option for women as long as it is under the limit of a specific time frame in the pregnancy. i don't agree with killing children. i just believe there's a point where a group of cells becomes a life and that's not exactly when it's conceived. i'm aware that that's a catholic teaching that from conception to birth its a human and they have rights but that's just catholicism and they have to think on a wider spectrum when they decide to do something like bringing a bunch of high school boys to d.c. to march against abortion. pro choice isn't pro abortion it's the right to choose and the belief that all women should have a choice. they shouldn't be backed into a corner or be given only one option.

__addisonrose@_hannahmarino: if you're going to attempt to correct her using science as your argument please at the very least use the correct terminology; i.e., zygote, embryo, fetus, etc. Additionally, the concept of life beginning at conception has been an ongoing debate for years and there is no general consensus (at least an unbiased one) from the scientific community. So, please refrain from quoting "science" as a whole because that is not only subjective, but also a gross generalization.

ashleyy_hayess: no matter how many times you say a baby is a baby i don't believe that a life is started at the same time you believe it starts. i believe it's later in the pregnancy hence abortion being ok until a specific point. i'm not supporting violence or women having more rights than anyone else but i believe it's within the woman's right to abort a group of cells before the life of the child starts. and no i don't mean to say " a baby" i said what i meant. just because you don't believe in what i'm saying doesn't mean it's not a valid argument or one that is wrong in any way. i think it was wrong of bch to give that field trip as an option. if they really feel strongly about being in the pro life march then they can personally outside of school. take the day off and go to the march is you care so deeply about it but this is past the school doing a religious field trip pro life supporters are not all catholics who believe in what you are saying. no all options such as adoption and other care facilities are necessarily an actual option for people with adoption you still have to go through 9 months of a pregnancy doctors appointments paper work supplements a lot of money that goes into that they people don't always have to spare. and i do know how each position stands i just don't agree with one and i strongly agree with another one. i'm done arguing pointlessly back and forth with people on here. you expressed your opinions and i expressed mine. neither of us are going to change the other persons views because we disagree on the basic premise of when a group of cells is consider an actual life. i respect that we have different opinions so i see no point to continue with this.

ashleyy_hayess@declan_leary: ummm your example doesn't prove what you're trying to say... but nice try! comparing white people to men and slaves to women during a time of horrific mistreatment of people i think you're just digging yourself an even bigger hole.

timwsullivan@ashleyy_hayess: @_addisonrose Have to weigh in here to say the NDA girls are giving me LIFE. ❤️❤️❤️ #slay #thefutureisfemale Would recommend Life’s Work by Willie Parker to everyone who has commented - particularly the young men ostensibly looking to become “men for others.”

oliviagoughan@michaelallen333: amen

oliviagoughan@_hannahmarino: that’s my best friend :)

mialucchetti@ashleyy_hayess: 👏👏 say it louder for the people in the back

n_flaherty617@ashleyy_hayess: I did not say that. You munipulates my words to further your point.

ashleyy_hayess@n_flaherty617: no. you're just generalizing what i'm saying to make your point seem important. i'm not saying that one group of people don't have the right to their freedom of speech, a human right, but what i am saying is for this specific topic, men shouldn't be as involved as they are. a woman should be able to do what she wants with her own body. that's HER human right. as many of you have you'll probably try to turn what i'm saying into a "she supports murder" thing which is far from the truth. at a certain point in the pregnancy i believe life is started and that definitely not at conception. a fertilized egg isn't a child yet. it has the ability to form into one but it also has the ability to miscarry and to produce still born child. before you come and attack me from a religious point of view take a step back to realize the entire world isn't catholic and doesn't necessarily believe in the same thing you're saying. that's why pro choice is the way to go you may have individual beliefs for yourself but not everyone is going to agree. give women the choice they deserve.