Cyma and Scott talk (LC11)

[12:49] * stanzicApparati PMs "Scott" : (Hey. I should be within eyesight of where you said you were.)
[12:50] <esotericRemnant> [You're sitting on top of one of the smaller, low hanging hedrons, right at the edge. You get the PM and look down, and yup, there she is. You nudge the last of the rope you have tied up off the edge. It tumbles down and uncoils, landing about ten metres infront of her.]
[12:51] * esotericRemnant PMs Timewolf (Can you manage the climb?)
[12:53] <stanzicApparati> [You answer this by clambering up the rope, hauling yourself up to the edge.] "Hi there."
[12:55] <esotericRemnant> [You're sitting at the edge, legs dangling off.] Hey, hows it going? [You're in a slightly better mood after talking to Sally. Your tone, while not happy, atleast approaches it.]
[12:56] <stanzicApparati> [You pull yourself up over the edge and perch next to Scott.] Going okay, mostly. And you?
[12:56] <esotericRemnant> Eh. [You shrug.] Fine I guess.
[12:58] <stanzicApparati> [You eye him.] ...which is why you've been avoiding everyone who isn't me or a Consort?
[13:00] <esotericRemnant> [You sigh and uncaptcha your guitar.] Do you mind?
[13:01] <stanzicApparati> [You shake your head.] I don't. You mind if I play along?
[13:03] <esotericRemnant> Go for it. [You slowly start playing. Nothing special, more for the playing than the sound.]
[13:03] <esotericRemnant> As for why I'm avoiding people, well
[13:05] <stanzicApparati> [You uncaptcha your violin, waiting a couple moments before starting to harmonize along with Scott's playing.]
[13:05] <esotericRemnant> Aelf and Nan came over, insulted me, treaded on my hospitality and didn't leave when I asked them to, and didn't let me leave either.
[13:06] <esotericRemnant> Neither Vrumed nor I like each other and I don't really have the patience to deal with him.
[13:06] <esotericRemnant> Desmond, well...If I don't have the patience for Vrumed, take a guess.
[13:07] <esotericRemnant> Kamila isn't exactly fond of me either, and I don't really have the patience to try and convince her otherwise.
[13:08] <esotericRemnant> And Jessica is, well. [You pause for a second.] Shes the sort of person who sees how bad she can get things just to see how bad they can get. Not a helpful bone in her.
[13:08] <stanzicApparati> [You listen quietly, letting the music wash over you as Scott talks.]
[13:09] <esotericRemnant> Now tell me why I'd want to spend any time with any of them.
[13:13] <stanzicApparati> [You keep playing, considering quietly.] Kam's dislike comes from the fact that you tend to be /very/ humanocentric. Which...well, Pits is fuckin' bad enough, with being anti-troll and anti-trans-species. You get burned by that shit enough times, you get really tired of it.
[13:14] <stanzicApparati> Aelf's low maturity - /all/ of us are. Ain't any of us at our best right now, and we sure as hell aren't good about using our words or remembering to respect boundaries. Especially not the native Mind player who's got a need to /know/ everything.
[13:15] <stanzicApparati> Vru...mmph. Far as I can figure, part of it is the humanocentricism, part of it is that his diamond isn't your biggest fan, and I wouldn't be real fond of someone Toni was in ash with either.
[13:15] <stanzicApparati> And Jessica...well. She probably got handed Light for a reason. Maybe someone needs to teach her how to be helpful, hm?
[13:16] <stanzicApparati> And you tend to take on too much for yourself, anyways. Did they /deliberately/ insult you? Deliberately violate your hospitality? Not much excuse for not leaving when asked, or not letting you leave - but they might not've meant to cause offense.
[13:16] <esotericRemnant> I wasn't aware that universal concern for life was a "humanocentric" trait
[13:17] <esotericRemnant> Cause if it is, then I won't make any excuse for it.
[13:18] <stanzicApparati> [You snort, which causes the violin to shiver - talking while playing is /hard/. And you rather need to talk right now, so you set the violin down for a bit.] Concern for life isn't humanocentric.
[13:18] <stanzicApparati> But you come off as caring about /human/ life, not all life.
[13:18] <esotericRemnant> I care about everyone's life.
[13:19] <esotericRemnant> I'll help a troll just as soon as I'll help a human.
[13:19] <stanzicApparati> And  yet, one of the first things I remember about you is you bitching about trolls being senselessly violent and bloodthirsty. Or words to that effect, at least.
[13:19] <esotericRemnant> I've been getting help so I know about troll-physiology just as well as I do human. I asked specifically for information on cocooning cause I know Kamila is going through that this session.
[13:20] <stanzicApparati> [You hum and look up at the sky.] I know it pretty well.
[13:21] <esotericRemnant> Been getting it from alkalineTonic, but some first-hand dialogue would be nice.
[13:22] <esotericRemnant> And well
[13:22] <esotericRemnant> [You look slightly uncomfortable.] I've changed since I made that statement.
[13:23] <stanzicApparati> [You consider and just look at him.] 'S on you to prove it, though. Ain't like we should just believe you because you say so.
[13:23] <stanzicApparati> But, 'cooning. What do you know so far?
[13:24] <esotericRemnant> If you want to check on the memo, I tried to help three trolls that were under attack from their human co-players just for being trolls...Wait, weren't you there?
[13:24] <esotericRemnant> [You look over at her.] You posted something on Ribbit about it.
[13:27] <stanzicApparati> Yeah.
[13:27] <stanzicApparati> I was there.
[13:28] <stanzicApparati> And I remember how it went.
[13:29] <stanzicApparati> And all I could do was post the bastard's tag on Ribbit, so that maybe his next coplayers can do something about it and give the bastard a Just death.
[13:29] <esotericRemnant> Well, that's how I'll act, irrespective of who needs the help. [You give a sigh.] We all do what we can, but it never is enough is it?
[13:30] <stanzicApparati> Sometimes it is.
[13:30] <stanzicApparati> [You shrug.] Anyways. How much do you know about metacooning?
[13:31] <esotericRemnant> [You grimmace] Not as much as I'd like. Not as much info on red-bloods, but as far as general stuff goes I've been given it and been looking it over.
[13:32] <esotericRemnant> I've seen what a bad cocooning can do, and I'd really rather that not happen.
[13:34] <stanzicApparati> [You nod, but don't ask.] Okay. So - Kam'll have to tell us when the time comes, but the symptoms are that she'll start getting a /lot/ hungrier, she'll start sleeping a hell of a lot more, and she'll also cough up silk.
[13:35] <stanzicApparati> Ideally, she'll build a box to spin the 'coon in and we can put that in the Magicant where it'll be safe from underlings and easy to keep in a dark room.
[13:35] <esotericRemnant> Yeah, I know that much. [You have some very clear memories of Mannan spitting silk in your face.]
[13:35] <esotericRemnant> I was thinking on one of the god-tier beds
[13:35] <esotericRemnant> But I suppose that depends on her preferences
[13:35] <stanzicApparati> [You make a face.] More light than I'd really be comfortable with having near a cocoon.
[13:36] <stanzicApparati> Maybe if it's pink? But any other type of light is...mm. It'll fuck with the process.
[13:36] <esotericRemnant> Fair enough.
[13:38] <esotericRemnant> I'm still trying to get through everything that I've been sent
[13:38] <stanzicApparati> [You nod.] Do you know the minimums for a safe 'cooning?
[13:40] <esotericRemnant> Like I said, red-bloods are a bit more unknown, but if you go by maroon-bloods its between two weeks and a month
[13:40] <stanzicApparati> Three weeks.
[13:40] <esotericRemnant> mmk
[13:40] <stanzicApparati> Less than three weeks, you get...melty.
[13:41] <esotericRemnant> ergh
[13:41] <esotericRemnant> Yeah, okay
[13:42] <stanzicApparati> Yeah.
[13:42] <esotericRemnant> [You know what that means]
[13:42] <stanzicApparati> Her 'coon starts going white before three weeks are up, we need to be prepared to get her to the Quest Bed.
[13:42] <esotericRemnant> [You nod]
[13:43] <esotericRemnant> Depending on when that is, I just need to hear the word and I can portal her there.
[13:43] <stanzicApparati> Only if she isn't in the Magicant.
[13:44] <stanzicApparati> Which means we're going to need to be /really/ careful about where her cocoon gets placed. It needs to be somewhere dimly lit, somewhere we can keep Underlings out of, but also somewhere you could 'port her out of if you need to.
[13:44] <esotericRemnant> Well, yeah. But its a lot shorter to move her to a Magicant exit than it is to move her to a quest bed.
[13:44] <stanzicApparati> [You shrug.]
[13:45] <stanzicApparati> Once she's all spun up, the 'coon will be a bright red, like her colour. Everyone's metacoon is in their colour, always, when it starts out.
[13:45] <esotericRemnant> mmhmm
[13:46] <stanzicApparati> As things go along, it'll start to lighten. When it turns white, she'll come out within the next few hours.
[13:46] <stanzicApparati> Give or take a day.
[13:47] <esotericRemnant> [You nod again. Still playing your guitar.]
[13:49] <stanzicApparati> Once it goes white, if she /doesn/t/ come out on her own? We need to cut her out and corpsesmooch or rush her to the Quest Bed.
[13:50] <stanzicApparati> But, let's assume everything goes fine. Because hey, why not?
[13:50] <esotericRemnant> Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
[13:51] <stanzicApparati> If everything goes fine, she's in there for anywhere from three weeks to...mmm. Maybe four perigrees? That's the longest I've ever heard of, anyways. She'll come out taller, bigger horns - it's essentially one giant growth spurt done all at once that lets us also heal up some damage we've taken since our last pupation.
[13:52] <esotericRemnant> [You nod again. You know this already.]
[13:52] <stanzicApparati> [You stretch, still looking up at the sky.] She'll be hungry as hell once she's out. And also naked and in need of a shower, 'cause covered in liveblood.
[13:52] <esotericRemnant> I can definitely help with the food. Both before and after.
[13:53] <stanzicApparati> [You nod.] High-protein, high-fat is what she'll need before. After... [A shrug.] Whatever's filling, really.
[13:54] <esotericRemnant> Heh, easy enough.
[13:54] <stanzicApparati> [A grin.] Considering we're not limited on grist...yeah.
[13:55] <stanzicApparati> And oh - fun fact we found out while Ring travelling. Metacoons /can/ be widgeted, once you're done with them.
[13:55] <stanzicApparati> They give Silk grist.
[13:55] <esotericRemnant> Huh.
[13:55] <esotericRemnant> Useful enough. Not exactly a common type.
[13:55] <stanzicApparati> And a chunk of Build grist, plus some Blood grist... [You shrug.]
[13:56] <esotericRemnant> [You shrug as well]
[13:56] <stanzicApparati> It'll be easier, at least, with Kam. Won't need to play seamonkies with her 'coon, like Riley had to with mine.
[13:57] <esotericRemnant> seamonkies?
[13:58] <stanzicApparati> [You shrug.] One of the phrases he used to describe it.
[13:58] <stanzicApparati> He had to make sure I didn't slide back towards human mid-cooning.
[14:00] <esotericRemnant> Ah. [You're still not entirely comfortable with the thought of changing species, so you try and focus more on your guitar. Playing one of your older songs.]
[14:03] <stanzicApparati> [You look over at him, raising an eyebrow.] Just 'ah'? No questions about how he managed it, or what it was like, or anything?
[14:03] <stanzicApparati> [You're /used/ to being asked probing questions about nearly everything. Seven years with a native Mind player tends to do that.]
[14:04] <esotericRemnant> [You shrug.] It worked out well enough. And it was kind of a unique scenario. If you want to share, I'll listen, but I don't like prying.
[14:05] <esotericRemnant> [You've got enough to think and worry about to add in more things that have already worked out just fine.]
[14:05] <stanzicApparati> 'Unique' - you realize that between me and Lucid, we're gonna have to work out a way to repeat it for Vru? And that Mareya will need to work out a way to repeat it, too?
[14:06] <esotericRemnant> I was more thinking the lack of grist while on a battleship travelling through the ring.
[14:06] <stanzicApparati> Ah.
[14:06] <stanzicApparati> Okay, that's...mm. Moderately unique, yeah?
[14:06] <esotericRemnant> Just a bit.
[14:07] <esotericRemnant> If you or Vrumed, or anyone else wants my help, I'd be glad to give it. But I'm hardly an expert.
[14:07] <stanzicApparati> If the trip had been five years, instead of seven, we would've had more than enough. Or...[You sigh.] I've gone over /everything/ we could've done instead, a lot.
[14:07] <esotericRemnant> You made it out just fine though.
[14:07] <stanzicApparati> [You nod.] I'll probably end up fogging Riley and cribbing what experience I can from that.
[14:08] <stanzicApparati> Plus asking a lot of tips from him.
[14:08] <esotericRemnant> mmm
[14:09] <esotericRemnant> [You give a tired sigh.] Like I said, if you want my help, its there. But I doubt any of them want it so I'm not going to worry about it.
[14:10] <esotericRemnant> [You've already been told many times that you take too much on, and you know this at some level. Can't add something on thats unlikely to happen.]
[14:10] <stanzicApparati> [You shrug.] Wait and see if they decide you're less of a butt once they've got some maturity quests done. Plus, everyone's gonna have to quest with everyone else sooner or later.
[14:10] <stanzicApparati> They'll have to get along with you well enough to manage that.
[14:12] <esotericRemnant> mmm
[14:14] <esotericRemnant> [You captcha the guitar and lay down, covering your face with your hands.]
[14:16] <stanzicApparati> [You captcha your violin and stretch out beside him, nosing at his shoulder.]
[14:16] <esotericRemnant> Wish this all wasn't so tiring.
[14:17] <stanzicApparati> [You pat his shoulder gently.] It'll get better.
[14:17] <stanzicApparati> [You have no evidence for this. If anything, there is significant evidence /against/ it. But you have to hope it will get better.]
[14:17] <esotericRemnant> I hope so.
[14:20] <esotericRemnant> I just... [You're not even sure what you want to finish that off with.]
[14:20] <stanzicApparati> [Another shoulder pat.] ...it's hard.
[14:20] <stanzicApparati> [It's hard, and everyone understands.]
[14:21] <esotericRemnant> I wish things would go right for once.
[14:23] <esotericRemnant> [You're tired of giving everything and it not being enough.]
[14:23] <stanzicApparati> I know that feeling.
[14:24] <stanzicApparati> [God, do you know it.]
[14:26] <esotericRemnant> [You give her an awkward sort-of hug, hugging while laying down is weird.]
[14:27] <stanzicApparati> [You hug him back, churring softly.]
[14:28] <esotericRemnant> ...Thanks for coming by.
[14:29] <stanzicApparati> [You shrug.] You asked. Why wouldn't I?
[14:33] <esotericRemnant> I...I'm not use to someone actually listening.
[14:33] <stanzicApparati> [You start to play with your hair - you really need to let Lucid's consorts at it.] ...not ever?
[14:35] <esotericRemnant> Well, sometimes they will. But recently its been...uncommon to say the least. [Part of it is that you're still hoping for the impossible.]
[14:37] <stanzicApparati> Not even online?
[14:39] <stanzicApparati> [You keep fussing with your hair, finger-combing it absently.] That's...usually, people are fairly good about listening online.
[14:40] <esotericRemnant> I can try and brush your hair if its bothering you that much. [You're avoiding the question as best you can.]
[14:41] <stanzicApparati> I... [An offer to brush someone's hair should probably not cause them to blush, right?]
[14:42] <esotericRemnant> Or cut it if you want. [You and your uncle cut each others hair. You're not an expert, but you can get it done.]
[14:43] <stanzicApparati> [Nope, still blushing.]
[14:44] <esotericRemnant> You okay?
[14:44] <stanzicApparati> [You swallow and manage not to squeak as you reply.] Um, yeah. That's...I appreciate the offer? But I already have a moirail, and I'm not going to cheat on Toni.
[14:45] <esotericRemnant> Oh. [Your turn to blush.] I...sorry.
[14:46] <esotericRemnant> [You shift away and stand up, walking down the length of the hedron. Mentally berating yourself.]
[14:46] <stanzicApparati> [You're still blushing.] I...you didn't know, right? So it's...
[14:47] <stanzicApparati> 'S not like you groped my horns or something. 'S not that bad.
[14:48] <esotericRemnant> No, but...bloody hell. Humanocentric, right?
[14:49] <stanzicApparati> ...how much do you know about quadrants?
[14:50] <esotericRemnant> I know about them, I was in a session with two trolls in my previous one. And I have read the document several times its just...
[14:50] <esotericRemnant> I don't /think/ about it.
[14:50] <stanzicApparati> ...most humans probably don't.
[14:50] <esotericRemnant> I just want to be helpful, and then I go and do this
[14:51] <esotericRemnant> Just...[You sigh and your voice loses all its energy.] If you want to go, I won't blame you.
[14:51] <stanzicApparati> [You offer, trying to be helpful,] I'm sure you'll have a very nice moirail some day.
[14:51] <stanzicApparati> [You cock your head to one side and blink at him.] ...because you made a mistake? Why would I leave just 'cause of that?
[14:54] <stanzicApparati> I mean, 's embarrassing, yeah, but...it's not like you /meant/ to come off as pale.
[14:55] <esotericRemnant> Not as pale, no. [You keep pacing.] But its something I'd offer to anyone who wants or needs it.
[14:55] <esotericRemnant> I'm just tired of still getting things wrong.
[14:55] <stanzicApparati> And what's /bad/ about offering comfort? Even if it means that sometimes, people are going to mistake it as pale when you don't mean it that way?
[14:57] <stanzicApparati> 'Sides, if you don't try, you won't ever get it right. And that's worse than getting it wrong sometimes. Or a lot of the time.
[14:58] <esotericRemnant> I never seem to get it right though
[14:58] <esotericRemnant> No matter how hard I try.
[15:00] <esotericRemnant> [You stand at the edge of the Hedron and look out over your land.]
[15:01] <stanzicApparati> [You get up and to to stand beside him.] So ask for help with trying?
[15:02] <stanzicApparati> You don't have to do it all alone.
[15:03] <stanzicApparati> Hell, if I'd tried working things out on my own, instead of asking Toni for help? I'd be half-feral. [You do not mention that Toni never really got around to explaining why it was important to use cutlery.]
[15:03] <esotericRemnant> [Ask for help? Yeah, right.] mmm
[15:04] <stanzicApparati> [You'd nose at his shoulder again, but given the position, that'd be a bad idea.] ...what do you wanna do right now?
[15:05] <esotericRemnant> I... [You know exactly what you want to do, but you know it can't happen.] ...don't know.
[15:07] <stanzicApparati> [You gnaw on a finger, thinking.] ...are you hungry?
[15:09] <esotericRemnant> Not overly, but if you want to eat, I've still got some food in my sylladex. [You're still looking out over your land. Not moving a muscle since you stepped to the edge.]
[15:10] <stanzicApparati> Not right now, but thank you. [Gnaw gnaw gnaw.] ...are there any quests we could do?
[15:10] <esotericRemnant> Yeah...probably. [You're sounding increasingly distant.]
[15:12] <stanzicApparati> Okay. Pick a thing and let's go do it, then.
[15:13] <stanzicApparati> [You're keeping a close eye on him - how distant he's sounding, and how close he is to the edge, are combining to make you a bit nervous.]
[15:15] <esotericRemnant> ...alright. [You still don't move. Another ten seconds pass before you finally take a step back and rub your forehead.]
[15:15] <esotericRemnant> [Bloody exiles.]
[15:16] <stanzicApparati> [You relax a little as he steps back from the edge, but still don't look away.]
[15:17] <esotericRemnant> [You look over at her, still rubbing your head.] Theres a consort village a little ways away. We can probably start there. [Your voice definitely doesn't sound like you're into it. Very tired.]
[15:19] <stanzicApparati> [You look back at him.] ...what do you /want/ to do, Scott?
[15:19] <stanzicApparati> If you'd rather sleep for a bit, I can keep watch 'till you wake up.
[15:20] <esotericRemnant> [You shake your head.] Sleeping will only mean I'm awake in my dreamself.
[15:20] <stanzicApparati> ...okay. Which brings us back to 'what do you want to do'.
[15:23] <esotericRemnant> [You sit down, well away from the edge.] You don't need to hear it. Already mistakenly acted pale once, not going to do it again.
[15:25] <stanzicApparati> [You give him an annoyed look.] I give you a pass for the next forty-eight hours, now talk.
[15:27] <esotericRemnant> [You look right back, apparently not bothered by the annoyed look.] I'm not going to ask you to deal with this. Its my problem.
[15:29] <stanzicApparati> And I'm offering to help.
[15:30] <esotericRemnant> [You sigh and hang your head. You don't have the energy to fight it.]
[15:30] <esotericRemnant> What I want to do is talk to my girlfriend. But I can't.
[15:32] <stanzicApparati> ...would it help if I tried to fog her, when I get the ability to fog people?
[15:32] <stanzicApparati> She's not someone I know, so I wouldn't be able to fog /her/, I don't think. But...you could describe her, and I could look like her if you wanted.
[15:33] <esotericRemnant> I...
[15:33] <esotericRemnant> Its not the same
[15:34] <stanzicApparati> I know.
[15:34] <stanzicApparati> But would it help, even if it's not really the same?
[15:34] <esotericRemnant> I don't know
[15:35] <esotericRemnant> I want to see her, talk with her again. Be /happy/ again.
[15:35] <esotericRemnant> Except I can't
[15:35] <stanzicApparati> [...your heart breaks for him a little. You /know/ that feeling. You miss Toni and Noah so much.]
[15:36] <stanzicApparati> [You miss Riley, and Kiman, and ZOG. You don't miss Joseph so much, because he was a butt.]
[15:36] <stanzicApparati> ...nothing says you can't be happy.
[15:36] <stanzicApparati> Or that you can't try for being happy.
[15:36] <stanzicApparati> And as soon as I /can/ fog people? I'm gonna try and fog your description of her.
[15:37] <esotericRemnant> I've got a photo. Only one left I have.
[15:38] <stanzicApparati> [You nod.] I'll do the best I can, then.
[15:39] <esotericRemnant> Can't even find her in the bubbles...
[15:39] <stanzicApparati> ...it's kinda hard to find people in the bubbles, sometimes, though.
[15:39] <stanzicApparati> Even if they know  you're looking for them.
[15:41] <esotericRemnant> mmm [You lay down and wipe your eyes. God do you miss her.]
[15:42] <stanzicApparati> [You offer him a tissue.]
[15:43] <esotericRemnant> [You take it and blow your nose. Captchaing it after.] ...thanks.
[15:44] <stanzicApparati> [You shrug.] You'd do the same, right?
[15:44] <esotericRemnant> Course I would.
[15:45] <stanzicApparati> So why shouldn't I do for you what you'd do for me?
[15:46] <esotericRemnant> [You sit up] Different cultures. I'm sure theres things one would do for the other that would make the other uncomfortable.
[15:47] <stanzicApparati> Yeah.
[15:47] <stanzicApparati> But the gesture would still be there.
[15:47] <stanzicApparati> And the feeling behind it.
[15:48] <esotericRemnant> [You sigh.] Yeah, suppose so.
[15:48] <stanzicApparati> So. Now what?
[15:49] <stanzicApparati> [You are absolutely going to get Rhyme one of these days. You need to get used to not /doing/ something, all the time.]
[15:50] <esotericRemnant> Questing probably. Always more to do. [You're probably going to need it too.]
[15:52] <esotericRemnant> [You sigh and get up, heading towards the rope down.]
[15:54] <stanzicApparati> [You nod and follow after him. Tempting as it is, you do not try to jump straight down, that would probably be bad for you. At the very least, it'd leave a pile of yarn everywhere.]
[15:56] <esotericRemnant> [You put on a set of gloves and start climbing/sliding down. Questing will help take your mind off of her, atleast for a while.]
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