JaysonSunshine

Competing epistemologies; competing social models

Jan 9th, 2016
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  1. Suncloud
  2. It's interesting the views of xsnlx
  3. I wouldn't doubt he said something like 'I am not the topic of conversation'
  4. This is why intellectual integrity is important
  5. Imagine if you said to him, after he made an argument, That he blows chunks
  6. Which was his argument against all of gender feminism
  7. So, that argumentation is valid against entire movements
  8. But if there is *a guy* in the channel you're addressing that comment to, then it's excessively personal
  9. drPer
  10. i've never seen xsnlx contribute anything meaningful to any conversation ever
  11. Suncloud
  12. I have
  13. He seems like he has pretty high intelligence
  14. Though, he doesn't seem to have a super data-driven worldvie
  15. And his emotions overwhelm his intellectualism often, it seems
  16. drPer
  17. he'll make an insipid college-freshman comment once in a while like "donald trump is crazy"
  18. Suncloud
  19. I have seen him say things like 'The burden is on you'
  20. i.e., 100% of the epistemic burden is on his opponent
  21. drPer
  22. the point is - he's not that smart
  23. you need to find potentially formidable opponents to argue with
  24. Suncloud
  25. Contrary to Chris Hitchens, it is extremely rare for the epistemic burden to ever been more in excess of about 70/30
  26. drPer
  27. not chumps
  28. Suncloud
  29. People describing others as "crazy" is a predictor of an underdeveloped theory of mind
  30. drPer
  31. don't waste your titanic intellect fella
  32. Suncloud
  33. 'I can't figure out this person's motivations. Therefore, there is no imaginable basis for their motivations. They're crazy.'
  34. I feel you may be attempting to troll me
  35. drPer
  36. well you're a tard too but at least you're interesting
  37. Ignoring drPer!*@*
  38. Suncloud
  39. Our conversation ended.
  40. Though I am talking about other people and their relative abilities, it's not about establishing dominance
  41. I am discussing other people and their properties like I would a computer system, or a planetary nebula
  42. That is, I am using the same methodology on human objects as I would on non-human objects
  43. As this methodology has been shown to be very effective
  44. Understandably, there are some challenges when studying humans as they react to your measurements in ways that many objects, such as planetary nebulas, do not
  45. I think this gets confused with the more common social orientation of our species to establish dominance
  46. I have an analogy by story
  47. There is a video of Dawkins on youtube interviewing a human from Africa who is Catholic and has black skin
  48. He ask him, Are you an ape, sir?
  49. In the comments many viewers interpreted his "ape" reference as a reference to racism
  50. This is how they understand why somebody would reference a human with black skin as an ape
  51. This was not Dawkins' intention, naturally
  52. He was discussing evolutionary theory in which humans are apes
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