Mr White
Ok guys,
All personnel please increase your personal protection measures.
Lots of crazy shit going on out there right now.
For those who did not hear.
Somali rebels attacked a western mall in Kenya.
Now in another country, Islamic Terrorists have attacked a school and the low count is 40 students dead.  I've heard reports of up to 70.
In light of this, I am asking all personnel to increase Vigiliance and readiness status.
Mr Orange
Rgr that, well once I get my firearm it'll be a lot better off here
Mr White
Hello
None?
Personal life, things could be much better but surviving. As far as the company is concerned, we are officially launching January 2nd.  We're pursuing a possible contract in Canada.
Mr Yellow
Thats just weapons that are ready, there is a whole large pelican of gear that I can throw in my truck and be on my way anywhere at a moments notice in my shop
Mr White  named the conversation: (redacted)
Mr Cyan
Wow when you talked to me on pits about this I took you seriously but didn't quite see it. I am supportive of your efforts but as it stands I am in my first year of school. If things change or you can see a way in which I can still be apart of your company... well we will just stay in contact. I'm very happy for you, good luck!
Mr White
Where and how the hell have you been? I kept thinking you didn't like me anymore or something.
Mr Orange
Hi?
Mr White
M4 (Spike Tactical) LE with EOTECH 552 (NV) OR TA 31 ACOG RCO.
(Needs BZO.)
Mr Blonde
dude stop adding me to this convo i dont care
Mr Blue
Where in Canada? I got friends that live up there and I hear the health care isn't too shabby. 😊
Mr White
Hello.
 we can't discuss where at present, because its still pending.   if we end up securing the contract,  We will notify the personnel who will be taking part.
Mr Cyan, we have several employees, including myself, who are in school.
M9A1 with 5 Magazines.
FN 5.7 with 3 Mags
M1911A1 (Springfield) with 3 mags.

M870 Tactical Express (With Breach Key)
Mr Blue
Rgr that. Figured I'd ask even though something in Utah or west coast us would probably work better
Mr Yellow
My scar has the EOtech 512 which I want to change to a Carl Zeiss partolmans scope
Mr White
Gentlemen.
Please private message me with your status for contracts.
I need to know if each of you are good to go, or need time.
Things are progressing and we are about ready to gear up.
Hello
Mr Blue
http://www.dopl.utah.gov/licensing/security_companies_guards.html
Utah Division of Occupational & Professional Licensing
dopl.utah.gov
Mr White
Also state your area of interest and desired duration.
PSL DMR with 7 Magazines and 1P21 "Mintua" 3x9x42 Automatic Rangefinding Varible power scope.
Those of you who are in this chat have been chosen to be candidates for Peregrine Defense.
Mr Blue
look at the link for armed security officer or unarmed security officer. it may give a bit of insight as to what is required for any security officers you hire. the pdf form has a number for what i assume is the office that would be able to answer question related to hiring and employing security officers.
Mr White
LPS TIP 4x24 Fixed scope backup.
Mr Orange
Rgr
Mr White
If you pass the qualifications, you will be selected as an Operator in our company.
Mr Orange
Here is the Utah requirements for armed and unarmed guard in regards to licensure.
(1) An applicant for licensure as an armed private security officer shall
successfully complete a basic education and training program and a firearms training
program approved by the Division, the content of which is set forth in Sections R156-63a-
603 and R156-63a-604.
 (2) An applicant for licensure as an unarmed private security officer shall
successfully complete a basic education and training program approved by the Division,
the content of which is set forth in Section R156-63a-603.
Mr White
This testing process will take Two months to complete.
Mosin Nagant M31 Sniper with PU 3.5
Mr Orange
R156-63a-603. Operating Standards - Content of Approved Basic Education and Training
Program for Armed and Unarmed Private Security Officers.
 (1) An approved basic education and training program for armed and unarmed private
security officers shall have the following components:
 (a) at least 24 hours of basic classroom instruction including the following:
 (i) one hour covering the nature and role of private security, including:
 (A) the limits of a private security officer's authority;
 (B) the scope of authority of a private security officer;
 (C) the civil liability of a private security officer; and
 (D) the private security officer's role in today's society;
 (ii) three hours covering state laws and rules applicable to private security;
 (iii) three hours covering the legal responsibilities of private security,
including:
 (A) constitutional law;
 (B) search and seizure; and
 (C) other such topics;
 (iv) four hours of situational response evaluations, including:
 (A) protecting and securing crime or accident scenes;
 (B) notifying of internal and external agencies; and
 (C) controlling information;
 (v) one hour covering security ethics;
 (vi) three hours covering the use of force, emphasizing the de-escalation of force
and alternatives to using force;
 (vii) two hours covering documentation and report writing, including:
 (A) preparing witness statements;
 (B) performing log maintenance;
 (C) exercising control of information;
 (D) taking field notes;
(E) organizing information into a report; and
 (F) performing basic writing;
 (viii) four hours covering patrol techniques, including:
 (A) mobile patrol verses fixed post;
 (B) accident prevention;
 (C) responding to calls and alarms;
 (D) security breeches; and
 (E) monitoring potential safety hazards;
 (ix) two hours covering police and community relations, including fundamental
duties and personal appearance of security officers;
 (x) one hour covering sexual harassment in the work place; and
 (xi) a final examination which competently examines the student on the subjects
included in the 24 hours of basic classroom instruction in the approved program of
education and training.
 (2) A student may only successfully pass the examination under Subsection (xi)
with a minimum score of 80%.
Mr White
We are working on a contract in Africa, another in Canada for Tactical Operations.
You will then be hired on a Per Contract basis
Mr Yellow
I have not put together a long gun yet, i was thinking of an FN Ballista in 300 win mag or a Sako TRG42 in 300 win mag
Mr White
No details are able to be released at this time.
Not sure of usefulness, but also have M1 Carbine with 2 30 round and 4 15 round mags.

Like the light weight, but hate the stopping power.
If you are not selected, you may re apply at a later time.
Mr Orange
R156-63a-604. Operating Standards - Content of Approved Basic Firearms Training Program
for Armed Private Security Officers.
 An approved basic firearms training program for armed private security officers
shall have the following components:
 (1) at least six hours of classroom firearms instruction to include the following:
 (a) the firearm and its ammunition;
 (b) the care and cleaning of the weapon;
 (c) the prohibition against alterations of firing mechanism;
 (d) firearm inspection review procedures;
 (e) firearm safety on duty;
 (f) firearm safety at home;
 (g) firearm safety on the range;
 (h) legal and ethical restraints on firearms use;
 (i) explanation and discussion of target environment;
 (j) stop failure drills;
 (k) explanation and discussion of stance, draw stroke, cover and concealment and
other firearm fundamentals;
 (l) armed patrol techniques;
 (m) use of deadly force under Utah law and the provisions of Title 76, Chapter 2,
Part 4 and a discussion of 18 USC 44 Section 922; and
 👎 the instruction that armed private security officers shall not fire their
weapon unless there is an eminent threat to life and at no time shall the weapon be drawn
as a threat or means to force compliance with any verbal directive not involving eminent
threat to life; and
 (2) at least six hours of firearms range instruction to include the following:
 (a) basic firearms fundamentals and marksmanship;
 (b) demonstration and explanation of the difference between sight picture, sight
alignment and trigger control; and
 (c) a recognized practical pistol course on which the applicant achieves a minimum
score of 80% using regular and low light conditions.
Mr White
Maritime Division is also nearing operational status.
Lastly, have my Remington 700 R5 in .308
Mr Orange
Please note we are seeking out facilities where this training can be provided wither in-house or at a third party training center.  Most likely in Salt Lake City.
Mr White
Unarmed and Armed BSG are still hung up in licencing.
Mr Yellow
not useful, in these conditions by the end of the day it would stop working all guns need a good coating due to the humidity
Mr Blue
would this training be able to take place say in florida before i were to move there or would it be something i would have to do after relocating?
Mr White
http://www.security-license.com/licensing/utah/169-utah-armed-security-guard-licensing-requirements
Utah Armed Security Guard Licensing Requirements
The Largest Security Guard Training Network in the US. Security Guard School - D License for Unarmed Security Guard and G License for Armed Security Officer Training & Renewal Courses - Weekly Classes
security-license.com
Any Questions?
Mr Orange
None so far
Mr Orange
Just for FYI on progress, we will be submitting for the company license at the start of FY14.  Once this is completed we will start to bid for contracts and certain people will be selected to go through this training for their license.  Once we have a contract we'll begin hiring for the needs of the contract and more positions as other contracts become available.  Pay will be based on experience, needs of the contract (armed / unarmed), etc.  Depending upon the contract there will be supervisory positions available.  I'll be offline for a bit,but back on later tonight.  Thanks
Mr Orange
Chief Security Offficer / Internal Investigations
Mr Yellow
Every operator is going to need a pelican box to himself the size of a small desk to fit all the gear needed for extended operations
Mr Orange
What's this?
Mr Orange
I'll have to call and see if licensure is reciprocity from other states.  It might be on some things, but not others.
Mr White
ok
Model name?
Mr Orange
I'm thinking the vast majority of the Florida D or G license would apply, but some instruction on Utah laws would be needed.  The other thing we need to look at is whether or not we need to go through a security training firm or if the training we provide for new hire is sufficient.  One of the requirements for the licensing is having a manual, so I'm not sure if that is sufficient to satisfy the training requirements.  Florida for instance there is a separate license to train security guards, but its not mentioned in the Utah requirements.  Its fairly odd, but if we can make our new hire orientation the training class, the better.
Mr White
Ok
The basic requirement
Mr Yellow
That will fit his longest guns, two bugout bags, hydration source, ammo, armor and then all the necessary items for work, dont know the model name but atleast a 3-4ft x 3-4 ft x 3-4ft box
Mr White
Sgt (redacted), welcome to (redacted).
All personnel for stateside assignment must meet this.
Mr Blue
Ok. That answers a couple of questions. I just want to cover all of my bases should I be able be employed with your company. Thank you for your time and answers. Hopefully details can become more cemented as January comes.
Mr Orange
Definitely.  With luck once the company starts we'll expand upon the contracts we get and eventually look at doing overseas operations, shipboard security, etc.  We're hoping once we get going, the initial people we hire will be able to move up quickly.  Pretty much for a 24 hour guard service we'd require 4.2 guards or more like three full time and two part time positions. The supervisor (Sergeant) position might or might not apply initially.  Typically we'd be looking at a supervisor for every 8-15 guards depending upon distance between work sites or needs of the contract, etc.  Eventually we'd be looking at a manager (Lieutenant) position once we have 8-10 supervisors.  Once we're big enough we'd have dispatcher positions, sales, HR, training instructors, investigators, and more.  The key to this is going to be having security officers that are intelligent, professional, and above all know tact and restraint.  The one thing that will differentiate us from others out there are these traits.  We don't need people who are trigger happy, overly confrontational, or what I call robo-cops (wanna be cops).  These are the kind of things that get security officers in trouble and cause the agency to lose contracts, but these are all covered in the manual once we
finalize it.
Mr Orange
Ok
Mr White
Ok.
I have the 1750 one for my Remington and was going to get another for my M4
Those of you here are either potential employees or advisors to my company.
Please be respectful, but feel free to ask any questions you may have.
Since we are operating out of Utah, all BSG and Operators must meet these qualifications, or Utah will suspend our license.
also put in for my NFA title 3 to get a KAC M203 with 12 inch barrel.
Thank you as always for your very hard work Sensei Tom.  It cannot be overstated, we have to be better trained and more professional than the other guys, or we won't get the contracts.
Facebook User
So what do we have to do
Mr Yellow
Get one that will fit all your guns, gear everything, so there is no need for extra boxes, the packs, look into eberlestock bags, they are the best, some of my sniper friends are using them and love them
No problem
Mr Orange
Good evening all.  Here is the most up-to-date draft of our manual.  This is only a draft and is still in need of topic organization and proof reading, but it is close to complete with only ten sections left.
I want any suggestions you guys have on making this manual better.  This can be revisions to sections, adding sections or if you want to discuss a certain topic for clarity.  In the end we want this as much feedback from those who are going to be future employees and leaders to have a say in the company.
Manual For Security Officers.docx
Mr Orange
Yes, you haven't detailed this "testing process" to me either
Mr White
Seeking a source for M433 HEDP
Ok.

In other news, who is that guy who no longer has a Facebook?
Mr Orange
*this to have          Been a long day.
Mr White
I have been in California this last week and will be catching up with company business this week.
Mr Yellow
Cant help ya there yet but that would be a good buy
Mr White
The Testing Process is specific to the role you will be performing.
Mr Blue
nothing substantial to add, but i did notice a spelling error in the "access control/Standing a post" section in which you write CCTY instead of CCTV.
I am proceeding to read this document and learn from it what will be expected of me and maybe whether or not i may have additional positive input for its pages.
Mr Yellow
Idk who you are talking about.....?
Mr White
For Maritime Security Branch, it's shipboard and VBSS style.
(Y)
For General Security, it's similar to ITB
Mr Orange
Hi all, just an update.  Mr White and I discussed the armed position a little more today and I wanted to share the discussion with you as I incorporate this into the manual.  We discussed security officer owned vs. company provided side arms for the armed position.  We are going with security officer owned initially and might revisit this later on.  The reason being is control of the firearm.  If the security officer owns their own weapon, then they can take it home once they get off work instead of returning it to an armory at the end of their shift.  This in turn will eliminate the officer having to check a weapon in and out daily and having to have another person supervise this activity.  As such we will be requiring all officers to purchase their own weapon.  Now, if someone can't afford a weapon, we'll supply one that will be paid for by the officer through payroll deductions over a period of time until paid off.  Maybe $100 a month.  Depending upon the state the type of firearm might be restricted to a few choices, however for our initial state of Utah there isn't much restriction.  As a company policy the following will be the standard for armed guards (non-tactical).
Semi-Auto -  9mm of the Beretta, Sig, or S&W brands.  FN 5.7, H&K USP .45 or Springfield .45 1911 tactical for tactical members.
Revolvers - 38 Cal of Rugger or S&W brands,
Rifles and Shotguns - These will be based upon certain requirements by the state and the needs of the client.  These will be issued by the company and maintained at the work site in a secured lockup or issued through the central office.  Most likely an AR-15 or FN SCAR and Remington 870 tactical.
Ammunition - Ammo will consist of non-piecing frangible rounds, unless specified by the contract.  The company will provide the initial rounds being three full magazines.
Maintenance of weapons - Weapon inspections will be conducted quarterly.
Qualifications - Conducted bi-annual with five shots from five, ten, and fifteen yards each.  Quals will be based on grouping and points.  An officer may make two attempts.  Tactical quals will be different to include the rifle and shotgun.
Mr White
that's why i'm doing it.
Hello Mr Yellow
However, it also covers laws, company policy and general subjects
Can't decide though, LWT (Govt contract) for 1900 dollars OR KAC for 2035 dollars.
Not sure if the KAC is mil spec or what, but the LWT I've heard mixed bag about.
Mr Orange
The only other update is we're doing a cost survey to determine what our competitors are charging and based on that compiled with other expenses setting our rates.  This will determine the base pay for officers.  For example if we charge $25 an hour, then the officer will likely get paid $10 and hour.  Out of that remaining $15 you have to deduct $5 per hour for benefits and insurance, and another $5 for admin / management cost.  This leaves $5 for the company to reinvest.  This is low balling, but until we know what its all going to cost, we need to do surveys and make calculations based on this type of formula.
Mr White
One of the members of the chat was talking, but his account has been banned.
IE
Not going for the Colt though.
Don't want to add 2 grand for the horsy on the side (AND the colt ones break way to damn often and we won't likely have back shop support until we make it.)
Mr Orange
This doesn't include personal protection details and special events where we charge more per hour.  For instance a personal protection detail can charge let's say $100 per hour in which case we might pay the officer $50 per hour, or an event might pay $50 per hour and we pay the officer $20 - $25.
Mr White
I am not sure why that happened.
Mr Yellow
My colt one goes down on me all the time, cant even get it off safe half the time when I need it and then once it finally comes off it wont go back on. One grain of sand in that and you are fucked up shit creek without a paddle in a sinking boat with cinderblocks tied to your feet
Mr White
US Based
Mr Yellow
Lol its all good
Mr Orange
In the end we want to take in account the cost of benefits, liability insurance, Supervisor's pay, support pay (Senior Management / HR / Sales / Advertising / etc) and leave enough to re-invest in the company for better equipment, facilities and the things that get us the higher paying clients.  At least that is the goal.
Mr White
That's why I'm looking at KAC.
Remember, every range we ever went to at K bay with the 203, always had lots of guys with rounds left and no launchers.
Mr Blue
Sounds like a good deal. Nice to hear specifics starting to be hashed out.
Mr White
Understood.
State law
But glad they fixed that before I left.
COMPANY UPDATE.
Sensei (dead serious) is currently producing the Basic Guard Orders and Manual to be distributed to all personnel.
We're working very hard on this.  It's not all happening overnight, but it's getting closer, like a Sakura beginning to bloom, we can see a small hint of what is to come.
Which brings me to another topic.
Anybody know any 41's who might want in?
Mr Orange
Here is the weapons and firearms section.  If you want to add anything, please let me know and Mr White and I will discuss.
WEAPONS AND FIREARMS
Weapons are defined as any tool that is used to cause harm to another human being.  This can be things like clubs, knives, swords, stun guns, Tasers, Asp, guns and so forth.  An everyday item like a screw driver or flashlight could be a weapon as well if used against a person.  For the purpose of this manual “Weapons and Firearms” will pertain sole to those authorized for carry by PSOs.  These items will vary based upon post orders and classification of armed / unarmed for the PSO.  For example a PSO might be authorized to carry pepper spray at one location, but not at another.  It is vital the PSO reads the post orders to know what is authorized and what is not.  Failure to do so is terms for disciplinary action, up to and including termination.
WEAPONS
Weapons authorized for carry if allowed by post orders.
• Collapsible baton or ASP
• Pepper spray / Mace / OC spray
• Tazer
• Stun baton
• Ku Baton
All other weapons not mentioned here are prohibited from use.
FIREARMS
Only certain brands and models of firearms are allowed for duty based on several factors to include primary duties, state laws, and post orders.  Ammunition is also designated.  Use of any firearms other than those listed will result in termination.  The PSO will have to purchase the appropriate firearm as one won’t be provided by the company, however if the PSO can’t afford a firearm at start of employment, then the company will provide one and deduct the cost of the firearm over a set period of time until paid in full and the PSO will have to sign a contract.  Termination prior to the firearm being paid for will result in one of two outcomes; either the PSO purchases the gun or returns it to the company minus a 40% use fee.  Failure to do either will result in legal action and the notification of the appropriate authorities.  The purpose of a PSO owned weapon is to reduce the amount of time a PSO would take to check a firearm in and out on a daily basis, it is easier on the PSO and more cost effective for the company.  In the case of rifles and shotguns, these firearms or “long arms” will be issued by the company.  Long arms will be maintained at the site or issued through the armory at the beginning of each shift and returned at the end of the shift.  Long arms might also be kept in a weapons locker on the work site for specific circumstances as defined in post orders.  All firearms will be inspected by the assigned armored prior to initial use and annually.  All PSOs carrying firearms must be properly licensed and qualify on an annual basis per the Security Guard Information Manual (SGIM), as set forth by the US. Department of Homeland Security.
AUTHORIZED PISTOLS
Pistols for regular carry will be chambered in 9mm for semi-automatic and .38 special for revolvers.  Tactical carry will be chambered in .45ACP, with the exception of the FN57, which is a 5.7mm.  All pistols will be required to be kept in a level III retention holster, unless otherwise stated in post orders.
SEMI-AUTOMATIC – REGULAR CARRY
Berretta 9mm
-   90, 92, and 96 models and their variants.
Sig Sauer
-   P226, P229, and P239
Smith and Wesson
-   M&P 9
REVOLVER – REGULAR CARRY
Rugger
-   SP 101 and GP 100
Smith and Wesson
-   Model 27
SEMI-AUTO - TACTICAL
FN
-   FN57
Heckler and Koch
-   HK45 Tactical, USP Tactical, Mark 23
Springfield Armory
-   1911A1, XD Tactical Model
AUTHORIZED LONG ARMS
Long arms fall under two types, rifles and shot guns.  Rifles will be chambered in 5.56 NATO, 7.62NATO, and 5.7mm.  Shotguns will be chambered in 12 gauge.
RIFLES
FN Herstal
-   SCAR H-STD, SCAR H-CQC, PS90 Carbine
Smith and Wesson
-   M&P 15
SHOTGUNS
Remington
-   870 varients
AUTHORIZED AMMO
Ammo for carry and qualification will be provided by the company, however practice and range ammo will be the responsibility of the PSO.
• 9mm – Hornady Critical duty 135gr. Flex Lock or Critical Defense 115gr.
• 45ACP - Hornady Critical duty 220gr. Flex Lock or Critical Defense 185gr
• 5.7mm –
• 38 Special - Hornady Critical Defense+P 110gr
• 5.56NATO – Hornady GMX TAP Barrier 70gr. or Penetrator M855
• 7.62NATO - Penetrator
QUALIFYING
Qualifying will be conducted annually.  Failure to qualify will result in removal of the PSO from armed duty for a period of 30 days, at which point a re-qualify will occur.  Failure to re-qualify will result in a change from position from armed to unarmed with the appropriate reduction in pay or separation from employment.  A PSO can try to qualify again following a failed re-qualify after 180 days.
Mr White
This manual, once provided to you, is to be considered essential post standing gear.  Except in extreme circumstances, it must be on your person or within arms reach at all times while on duty.
Customer Service
It is to be considered confidential and the contents are not to be disclosed to any personnel not employed by Peregrine Defense.
ROF
For the FN 5.7
Ammo will be issued as per needs.
At minimum, 40 rounds of SS197SR and 20 to 40 of the SS190SC will be required.
might be able to grab a M226, but I'm not going to bother if I don't have trained personnel to fire it.
Mr White
The SS190SC Is a HIGHLY EFFECTIVE Armor Piercing round, and as was unfortunately demonstrated at Ft. Hood, Tx. it is capible of defeating SAPI and ESAPI Armor at close range.  All PSO who are issued SS190SC will be held to the highest standards and EACH round MUST be accounted for at each Guard Mount.  These rounds are Restricted Import and we must obtain a special licence to obtain them.
Mr Brown
Like your idea...it sounds awfully like security forces
Mr White
Mr Scarlet Is head of Maritime Security Division.
Mr Yellow
I know how to hand lauch and thats about it and do CFF missions
Mr Brown
now experience like mine, where would it fit into this company of yours?
Mr White
Well, I can order one.  BUT 6 month wait to receive.
Good Afternoon.
Weekly update for (redacted).
Mr Orange
I thing to keep in mind for the 5.7 and 45ACP.  These are only for tactical teams, not standard duty.  Standard duty is the 9mm or 38 special, as these are the most widely accepted carry calibers for armed guard in most states.
Mr White
Then there's the issue of rounds.
It will (in addition to the cost of buying them) cost 200 dollars PER ROUND to the ATF since each bomb must be registered as a DD.
We are talking with several interested parties for possible contracts.
Mr Orange
*One thing
Mr White
You are our NBC specialist and advisor
I need everyone to message me with your area of interest to see if you can be placed on a team.
Mr Yellow
Would not risk it for that area, too dense on population in the villages to be effective without having a large number of civilian wounded
Mr White
You will work with Sensei to develop our counter CBRN procedures as well as tactical operations if you wish.
Mr Orange
Here is the post orders.
POST ORDERS
The post orders are specific policies and standards set forth by the company and client for the PSO to follow.  The post orders should be followed 100% by the PSO and failure to do so is terms for disciplinary action up to and including termination.  Below is an example of some topics covered in post orders, but this list is not all inclusive and the PSO should fully read and understand the post orders prior to working at a specific site.
1.  Introduction/mission statement
2.  Summary information about client
3.  Code of conduct/ethics
4.  Staffing information/position descriptions
5.  Customer service policies
6.  Specific post assignments
7.  Building security/access control
• A. Building hours
• B. Restricted areas
8.  Personnel security
• A. Identification card policies
• B. Visitor policies
• C. Drug/alcohol policies
• D. Sexual harassment
• E. Workplace violence
• F. Privacy/HIPAA
9.  Emergency response
• A. Fire/evacuation
• B. Weather/shelter in place
• C. Hostile intruder
• D. Utility/power outages
• E.  Emergency notification
10. Legal/criminal information
• A. Contacting police for assistance/report crime
• B. Use of force
• C. Criminal trespass
• D. Search and detention
• E. Active Shooter Response
11. Safety
• A. Hazard communication
• B. Bloodborne pathogens
12. Reports/record keeping
• A. Incident reports
• B. Accident reports
• C. Daily logs
• D. Inspection reports
• E. Lost and found
13. Appendix
• A. Client policies
• B. Training checklists
Mr White
Agree.
What about field use?
I don't know if I want to shell out for a 60mm or 81mm Mortar, but figure we WILL need some form of indirect support.
Requirements for Unarmed Security have been agreed upon and will be posted next Monday.
60 has less collateral damage.
All active personnel, please verify that you have read the recent posts.
Mr Brown
Interesting...def got my attention
Mr White
Basic Security Guard (Armed) Marksmanship standards are being reevaluated.
To be honest, I'm glad to have your knowledge.
Mr Blue
10-4
Mr White
My bad, it's the M224.
Mr Red
Roger roger.
Mr Orange
Hi Mr Red.  I'm actually working on the emergency response section and if you'd like to do the CBRNE section, I'll wordsmith it if needed an add it to the manual.   Here is an example of the manual so you can get an idea of how its written.  If your uncomfortable with writing, just give me a some bullet points and I'll write it out.
If a fire is reported to the PSO, their first response is to determine the severity of the fire.  Determination should be made by information provided by the person reporting it or the personal observations of the PSO (ie. Seeing smoke and / or flames.).  If the fire is a small trash can fire or other area that can be extinguished with minimal effort and the PSO is comfortable using a fire extinguisher to put it out, then he or she should do so.  Once it has been fully extinguished, the PSO should notate it in their log and the cause.  If the fire is larger the PSO should immediately activate the fire alarm system to evacuate the premises.  The PSO’s job at this point is to assist personnel in the evacuation while it is safe to do so and provide direction at the rally point until emergency response arrives.  Once the fire department arrives the PSO should follow the instructions of the fire fighters in any way possible.  This includes providing floor plans for the facility and / or keys.
Mr White
Due to lack of contact with Mr Yellow, he is no longer Group Captain for Ground.
Mr Orange
Hi all, wanted your thoughts on uniforms.  As we get closer to getting the license and starting to look for clients, we are looking at getting the uniform colors locked down.  Mr White and I we discussing navy blue slacks and a light blue shirt.  (The below links are just examples for style / color, not the final selection)
CLASS A. Formal with or without jacket.
http://www.galls.com/dutypro-long-sleeve-traditional-uniform-shirt   - Light blue
http://www.galls.com/lawpro-100-percent-polyester-pre-striped-uniform-trousers  - Navy blue  -  The stripe would be for Sgts and up or for 1 year time in service, your thoughts?
http://www.galls.com/midway-cap-co-round-polyester-cap  -  Either White or Navy blue.  Thoughts?
http://www.galls.com/flying-cross-single-breasted-dress-coat  - Navy blue

CASUAL - Polo / Slacks
http://www.galls.com/Galls-pique-cotton-polyester-security-id-polo  -  Light blue
http://www.galls.com/511-tactical-taclite-pro-mens-ripstop-pants  - Navy Blue
SEMI-FORMAL / EXECUTIVE
http://www.galls.com/dutypro-mens-polyester-pants - Navy Blue
http://www.galls.com/quartermaster-mens-poly-uniform-blazer - Navy Blue
http://www.galls.com/dutypro-long-sleeve-poly-cotton-military-style-shirt - Light blue w/navy blue tie.
TACTICAL - Still up for debate at the moment.  Most likely will be full navy blue for majority of duties, but looking at different camo schemes based on the situation / locale / client.
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Mr White
The position is currently unfilled.
Ok, sorry for the delay in reporting, but we have some news.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M224_mortar
M224 mortar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The M224 60 mm Lightweight Mortar is a smooth bore, muzzle-loading, high-angle-of-fire weapon used for close-in support of ground troops.
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Currently we are working to get our company insured for basic operations and the Manual is being finished up. It's taken a bit more time than I would like, but things are coming together nicely.
As stated, the uniforms are up for debate and I would like some discussion from the troops on this one.
We have the general style in place.
I also request that anyone with special skills or languages PM me.
Mr Yellow
From the times we have called them in before they are pretty acurate if you have a good observer but if that guys sucks then you are fucked, in dense areas still even a m67 has a lot of potential for collateral damage in crowded streets
Mr Orange
Rgr
Mr Orange
Hi all.  Mr White called me and asked me to post this.  There might be some tactical / merc work out of Somalia.  This is high risk, but the money should be good (if it isn't we won't bid).  We're going for $50,000 for a six month tour or $100,000 for one year per operator at minimum.  This will be protection / missions against militants and the risk is high.  Let us know if your interested, if the money and details are good, ship out could be 30 days after the bid.  If the risk is too great it will be a no-go.  We'll keep you all posted as we find out more details.
Mr Blue
As for the uniform, those look very professional and with the right people in them would present an air of command authority. As for the Somalia work, would we be bound by the don't shoot back until a friendly is hit?
Mr White
If possible, I need you guys to update me with your contact info and preferred work.
Ok.
That is all.
Any questions?
Mr Orange
Yeah, I'll say that now. I'm very interested in the contract, but if we have to play the whole "wait until you get shot, to shoot back" nonsense, then I have no interest. Putting my life at risk is not something that bothers me, I've had enough of doing it the U.S military way though.
Mr Orange
Rgr
Mr White
We expect this to be a mix of urban and mountain fighting.
Mr Scarlet
The maritime security division will, once activated be comprised of individuals who travel aboard merchant ships as a protective measure against theft and piracy. I am seeking any individuals with VBSS/ Shipboard Security experience.  At a minimum one should have complete either Shipboard Reaction Force Alpha or ASF training. Please message me @ raistlanpryce1138@yahoo.com with your name, phone number, and qualifications if interested.
Mr White
THat's pretty much all the info I have at this time.

Floor open.
Mr Orange
Just to give everyone an idea on what is going on, here is an update.
Mr Orange
I'm not sold entirely on the uniform but I'm not against it either.
Mr Orange
I'm not putting anyone at risk without the favorable conditions of proper engagement protocols no matter how good the money is.
Mr Yellow
Great in open areas the 81 is, a 60 has to be placed pretty close to be effective enough
Mr White
Welcome to Peregrine Defense General Chat.
This is an open forum for all candidates and employees.
Mr Orange
I can't see said update if it has been posted.
Alright, sounds good
Mr White
Wiki data.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M252_mortar
M252 mortar - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The M252 81 mm medium weight mortar is a British designed smooth bore, muzzle-loading, high-angle-of-fire weapon used for long-range indirectfire support to light infantry, air assault, and airborne units across the entire front of a battalion zone of influence. In the U.S. Army and U.S. Marine Corp...
en.wikipedia.org
For the most part, it's just me posting updates, though the other Division Heads do chip in from time to time.
excellent to see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M224_mortar
Welcome to Peregrine Defense General Chat.
This is an open forum for all candidates and employees.
For the most part, it's just me posting updates, though the other Division Heads do chip in from time to time.
All are welcome to post questions or comments.
Mr Orange
1. We are working on getting licensure in Utah for a security agency.  To do this we have to meet several requirements to include writing the manual, getting insurance, having a business plan and passing a Security Agency test for Utah.  Once we have the license in hand we will then be able to start soliciting for contracts and in turn begin hiring.
Mr White

If we get the contract gentlemen.
I expect the following.
1.
As always, Professionalism.
2. Knowledge.  (Friendly and hostile weapons, customs, core skills)
3.
Enemy contact.
Mr Orange
I'm unclear as to how far the manual is at this point. But other than that, aren't the other steps much closer?
Mr White
Those of you who are in this chat have been chosen to be candidates for Peregrine Defense.
If you pass the qualifications, you will be selected as an Operator in our company.
This testing process will take Two months to complete.
You will then be hired on a Per Contract basis.
If you are not selected, you may re apply at a later time.
Any Questions?
Mr White
Ok,
All personnel.  I need a gear list of what you have and another of what you need ASAP.
Mr White
To answer Porter.
I don't think we're going to have a 320 unless we capture one from the rebels.
Might get 203's from KAC or LWT before deployment, but that's all I expect, and even then, not sure how to get ammo.
I've seen single rounds for sale here and there on Armslist and gunbroker, but cost varies.
Mr White
Company Update.
Our Parent Company "Peregrine Defense" has selected Utah as the location for Headquarters.
The manual is nearing completion, then it will be reviewed and either revised or approved.
We are currently working with the state for licensing of the company in Utah.
Mr Orange
Will be putting together today
Very well
Mr White
Be familiar with our weapons, and common enemy systems.
AK47's may be basic, but if you don't have a clue how to handle one, we can teach you.  Neglect will reduce the accuracy and even cause a jam eventually.
The RPG is also very simple, but take care to ensure it is not a trap.
Mr White
The general company should be up and ready within 3 months.  Possibly sooner, but I'm being conservative with this estimate.
Ok, thank you.
Mr Yellow
Some of my friends have learned about the trap the hard way, I fired one of the RPG-7s before and I hate them with a passion not to mention I dont like being on the recieving end as well, I am a Foreign Weapons Instructor and Trainer
Mr Orange
The manual is currently at 25 pages and covers the following.  Some of these topics are quick to write, while others require a great deal of research to correspond with local laws.  If anyone wants to write or contribute to these sections, please let me know.
Forward 4
Mission 6
Code Of Ethics  6
Role Of The Security Guard  6
Access Control / Standing A Post    6
Foot / Vehicle Patrols  7
Surveillance / monitoring   7
Escort Duties   7
Responding To Calls, Alarms and Other Incidents 8
Alarm Response  8
False Alarm Due To Malfunction, Human error Or Natural Causes   8
Alarm due to Burglary   8
Medical Emergencys / Accidents  8
Fire Response   9
Checmical Release (Non-AttacK) / Man Made Disaster  9
Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear, And Explosive  9
Workplace Violence  11
Active Shooter / Agressor with a Weapon 12
Crimes  13
Trespass    13
Client Services 14
Personal appearance and Demeanor    14
Uniform Types   14
Authorized Duty Belt Accessories    15
Other Authorzied Uniform Items  15
Badges / Credentials    15
Haircuts / Facial Hair  15
Tattoos, Branding, Piercings, and Other Body Alterations    16
Dealing with the Mentally Ill   16
Types Of Security   16
Industrial  16
Residential 16
Commercial  16
Retail  16
Hospital    16
School / College / University   16
Personal Protection 17
Laws In Regards To Security 17
Criminal Law    17
Statue Law, Common Law, Case Law    17
Misdemeanor, Felony, Citation   17
The Criminal Justice System 17
Law Enforcement 17
The Courts  17
Jail / Prison   17
Probation / Parole  17
Tort Law    17
Public Affairs / Media Response 18
Dealing with Law Enforcement    18
Dealing With Various Federal, State, County, and Local Agencies 18
Arrest and Detainment   18
Search and Seizure  18
Restraints  18
Weapons and Firearms    18
Use of Force    18
DEFINITION OF USE OF FORCE  18
LEVELS OF FORCE 19
UNAUTHORIZED USES OF FORCE  19
Use of Lethal Force 19
Chasing Suspects    20
Observations / Reporting    20
Report Writing  20
Supervison  20
Physical Security   20
Foot Patrols    20
Locks and Safes 20
Key Control 20
Intrusion Detrction Systems 20
Access Control  20
Post Orders 20
Radio and Telephone Communications  21
Crowd Control and Special Events    21
Emergency Response  21
Robbery 21
Domesitc Violence   21
Mr White
Tactical Operations will be ready around the same time.
Mr White
To load an RPG 7.
Inspect the rocket!  No cracks, bulges or dents.
HOLD THE TAIL FINS.
Slide rocket (Tail first) into the muzzle end of the tube.  This is an 85mm OR 70mm Rocket with a 40mm tube (Small end) with a huge Voulturi on the back.  (( Do not try to place the rocket in the volturi, it wont fit.))
There is a key on the front and a little tit on the rocket.  put the tit in the key to ensure the rocket is locked and ready to fire.
Mr Orange
If there is anything i can do to help, I may be able to put in some additional information or help out, but as far as official terminology I'll leave that to someone else.
Will you slow down in the chat so the rest of us can actually read this? I've got like 50 messages backed up now
Mr White
Until further notice, please post at least weekly your individual readiness.
Maritime is currently on hold while we persue a contract in Canada.
This contract will require a minimum of 5 operators, but not to exceed 15.
Mr Orange
1 tan Ilbe style pack minus top pouch, 1 USMC issued e-tool carrier and tan case, 1 Usmc ISO mat, 1 combat knife and 1 survival knife, 1 serrated blade machete, 1 desert MarPat camelback, 1 pair shooting gloves, 1 pair fingerless gloves, 1 identity mask, 3 combination locks, multiple rolls of electrical and duct tape, 1 case of protective ear plugs, 1 case of sterilized masks and gloves, 1 snakebite and insect venom removal Kit, 1 full set of Usmc issued cold weather pro, 1 full sized Medkit, 3 skivvy rolls, 1 twin size tent, 1 cold weather sleeping bag, 1 body powder, baby wipes, peroxide, alcohol, and calamine lotion, and 2 sets of MarPat woodland/desert cammies. Will have a sappy carrier or flak within days. If we stepped off now that's what I'd have.
Mr White
I will try to get in touch with Ocampo regarding the NBC.
cock hammer and sight in, then pray it works and pull forward trigger.
Depending on the details, this contract may require armed personnel.  However, that is not confirmed.
Mr Orange
Right now (2) 4 Sappy Plates, kevlar helmet, rifle, pistol, IFAC, gas mask, magazines, and magazine pouches are what I need. I neglected to mention prior that I also have my 2 canteens, 2 canteen pouches, and rifle cleaning Kit.
Mr White
Will do Bol, sorry.
Mr Orange
One of the things to keep in mind at this phase is things can seem to go by slowly as requirements take a great deal of time, so of which is outside of the managements control.  However, once we get the licensing, funding and our first contract things will start to move quickly.
Mr Brown
Tactical operations?
Mr White
Roger that Bol.  Cook has near identical as you told me.
Mr Orange
I'm basically awaiting a chance to get my feet on the ground. I'm currently pursuing possible weapons contracts.
Mr Yellow
I like the then pray it works part
Mr White
Yes
Mr White
Only have 1 question, and that is for porter.
What is the misfire procedure?
The RPG has 2 fuzes to detonate the warhead.  1 is a Point Initating, Base Detonating (HEAT) pr PIPD (Point Detonating) HEF AP rocket.
The SECOND fuse is a Chemical Trail which burns from the propellant to the warhead.  This takes 4 to 5 seconds.  It is intended to prevent UXO, AND functions as an Anti Aircraft Airburst.  (Rocket will explode after 500 to 550 Meters)
Mr White
I've been up all night doing more research, and mother told me she is going to talk to the source today.
Mr Orange
Anyway, just wanted to let everyone know what was going on and if everyone could add their specializations that might come in handy we can use that for either asking for more detailed info for our instructions / manuals or for later leadership /  training positions.
Mr White
This contract falls under Tac Ops.
Mr Orange
Put McClanahan in the conversation. Also, I'm getting a SIG 45 and an AR10
Rgr
Mr Orange
Sounds good.
Mr Brown
Please explain more in detail my friend
Mr White
I hope to have that update in a few hours.
Speaking of, I am taking a 2 hour Rest Cycle and will return at 0800 my time.
(Damn, like K bay all over again)
Mr Orange
I may have a lead on someone who can provide input or potentially help write said manual, no guarantee at the moment.
Mr White
I don't have him.  Add him please.
Mr Orange
Cool.  A lot of this is based on my experience and what I have from manuals / text books, but the more input the easier it is for me.  I hoping to complete the manual within a month or two.
Mr White
Ok
Mr Yellow
Have an AR-10 built out, if you are a skilled shooter it can be a 1000 yard gun no problem, or misfire procedure was place it on the deck in a quick and gentle manner then run like hell away from it because you never know about those fucking things, they can go off just from being loaded so I dont fuck with them anymore than I have to, if EOD cant solve the problem usually a well placed 40mm did
Mr Orange
Good, because I'm eagerly awaiting the trial run of the company.
Mr White
Anybody else remember those 22 hour days?
Be advised that some data is currently RESTRICTED due to NDNCA
Anyone have a source for M72A3 (or newer) LAW?  I know Sweden still makes them, and we started making them again as an alternate to the M136 AT4.
Ok, back in 2 hours.
We are expecting it to go well.
Our personnel are expected to be well trained and professional on duty.
Mr Brown
Roger
Mr Orange
Of course, Cook and I also have the Usmc issued knee and elbow pads
Sounds good to me
Mr White
Non Disclosure Non Circumvent Agreement.
Mr Yellow
When you get your SIG 45 throw the mags away before you even shoot the thing and get either chip mccormick gold cup mags or wilson combat mags for it
Mr Pink
I have basically the same as Bolinger minus the gold weather gear and medical/hygiene items. I also have 1 pair of multicam cammies  1 pistol with cleaning gear, case, belt, holster and mag pouches.
Mr Yellow
AT-4 is being phased out slowly LAW's are the way to go if you can find them
Mr Pink
As for the uniforms I'm not liking the one with the tie, however I support the casual uniform. As for operators my vote is on multicam, wedding being marine marpat
Mr White
This operation will be conducted in Canada.  Moving items to and from the United States.
Mr Orange
No worries. The executive one with the tie will either have the security badge embroidered on it or will have a place for the standard issue badge.  As for the tie, they will be the pull away velcro type.
Mr White
Items will be moved by vehicle and light aircraft
I liked the LAW better than AT4 anyway.
4lbs vs 15 lbs and 3 shots vs 1 for the same weight.
Wow, messages have not been posting.
Mr Orange
Interesting but how exactly will that work with protective gear? Dress shirt and flak jacket hurts my brain.
Mr White
USMC is using the M72A6 and A7
Facebook User
To where
Mr Orange
Lol.  Light Kevlar vest like police wear.  Definitely not for overseas ops.
Jada
Test test
Mr White
I'll see who is making them these days.
US
Mr Orange
Okay that makes much more sense lol
Mr White
Got you
Mr Yellow
IF you can find them and I say IF that would be a great piece of gear to have
Mr White
Currently not able to disclose where, the contract is ongoing.
Mr Orange
The executive uniform will be for luxury condos / resorts and personal protection details.
Mr White
I liked them, went to a LAAW class.  They are nearly CS safe as is, and if you can put a door behind you, it won't kill you.
Depending on the type of security they select for this contract, we will require 5 to 15 personnel
Welcome Jada.
WILL suck however.
Jada
Thank you, Mr White.
Mr White
Possible mix of armed and unarmed
Mr Orange
Okay, that's a good clarification. I don't mind it so much now. I imagined us all fighting pirates dressed for office work lol
Mr White
Make sure not to hose your buddies though and try to fire it outside.
Welcome to Peregrine Defense General Chat.
As explained.
This is where you can post any questions, comments, Ideas, or just keep up with the company activities.
Who is interested in this contract?
Mr Yellow
Yes will suck, monkey nuts, im also a TSE instructor trainer btw, Tactical Site Exploitation is my specialty nowadays, go kill bad guys, raid their shit and get it to my intel shop
Mr White
We are working on details, but I need a rough head count.
Mr Pink
My concern with the tie was that it's just another thing somebody can grab a hold of. Has a uniform been selected for overseas wear yet?
Jada
Sounds good.
Mr Orange
Sounds fun. Definitely more interested if it becomes armed, but I'm in either way.
Yeah I had every intention of repaving those magazines immediately and I'm pretty good with the AR-10
Mr Orange
Lol
Mr White
Ok
Ok.
Mr Orange
Overseas will be based on the surroundings. There is a Russian pattern Mr White mentioned the other day.
Facebook User
What can I do to help
Mr White
BTW, general information for all personnel.
Mr Orange
I may have a lead on a LAW or a Stinger, standby for confirmation of that.
I'm not sure about the Russian one. I'm more a fan on the multicam plus it's cheaper than flektarn
Mr White
We are working to get the manual finished and I am talking with some insurance people.
I'm discontinuing my Math Class at WSU, since I am having trouble studying for that and making necessary contacts.
I was LAAD trained, so if you can get me a few, I can use (effectively) the FIM92A or C
Armed Security Personnel.
The Russian "Digital Flora" and "Survivor Pattern" are evolved MARPAT which are actually considered superior by DoD.
However, for this op, we are working on a uniform.
I would personally not want to use a US Pattern, for hostile propaganda reasons.
My insomnia and other things are making it too much at the moment, so I am scaling back on those issues until the company has a steady contract.
Other small arms may be aquired, but this is the core list.
I also know the basics of the SA16/18 Ilga.
When (not if) they take a video of our guys and throw it on the net, we don't want them saying it was US Military.
Mr Yellow
Make sure you get rid of the 2 piece handguard system and replace it with a free floating single piece quad rail from troy, helps with the accuracy and allows for any attachment you could possibly need
Mr Orange
Very well
Mr White
Bad guys love to spin lies and outrageous claims.
Mr Yellow
Ill be back tomorrow, got some stuff to do, catch yall later guys
Mr Orange
Only 30 sections left to write out of 78.  I estimate a few more weeks until completion.
Mr White
Currently we are planning on fielding.
speaking of, anyone got a lead on Troy DOA BUIS?
Pistols
M9A1  9mm
M1911A1 .45
FN 5.7
Carbine
Spike Tactical LE Mid Length. 5.56
Shotgun
Remington 870 Tactical Express 12 ga
Remington 870 Marine Tactical  12ga
Rifle
Remington 700 R5 In .308

Thanks for the feedback, that's stuff to consider.
Mr Orange
Awesome news
Mr Blue
Yeah, in certain parts of the world, it's best to keep government affiliation to a minimum.
Mr White
Take care porter.
Mr White
Ok.
Sorry for the delay in posting.
My internet is a bit unreliable and does not post on occasion.
Peregrine Defense will launch the Utah Security Division on January 2nd 2014.
We are launching at that time to avoid having to pay the start up fees and then the renewal fees in a 5 month period.
Under Utah Law, all companies and their personnel must re certify at the beginning of each even calendar year.  There is no grace period.  Even if we launch Dec 26th and pay all fees, we still have to pay them again.  This is the reason for the delay.
Also, I have not heard back from over half of the personnel here regarding their desired pay and assignment type.
Mr White
Once we get classified for them, we will be adding a few GPMG to the arsenal.
FN P90
HK MP5
M240 MMG
M2A1 HBMG
This is from an airsofter, but shows Digi Flora
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBHi-J5OcTQ
Airsoftec: Reviews-Digital Flora Camouflage
This is one of the newest types of camouflage available from the Russian Federation, and it is pretty expensive, but really cool.
youtube.com
Mr Blue
No need to apologize for the delay. I'll try to get with you tmrw nite and talk out some more details and ask any questions I might still have.
Mr White
This is the long term plan.
Have a nice day.
Good, thank you.
Mr Orange
Sounds good, Brown - so you're aware, I acquired my sappy carrier today but I still need plates
Mr White
Any questions or comments?
Here is Multi Cam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBwFvtMrGTg
Multicam Camouflage
http://www.patriotsurplus.com This is a great video compilation of the benefits of multicam camouflage. Originally designed by Crye Precision, this pattern d...
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Porter knows about some awesome Israeli stuff.
Mr Pink
Makes sense. I definitely wouldn't want our actions to be fuel for a foreign propaganda machine, especially if it comes back on the Corps.
Mr Blue
hey Mr White, i found another individual who i think would be a good addition to the ranks. He has military experience and security experience.
Mr White
All personnel will be required to obtain a Utah Security Guard License.
Mr Pink
http://youtu.be/Fm1qCc2iMMw
Here is a video I found that has a wide variety of camo to consider.
THE WORLD'S 45 BEST CAMOS
The world's 45 best camos of modern military (not in ranking order) Featuring: USA RUSSIA UNITED KINGDOM GERMANY SPAIN FRANCE AUSTRALIA CANADA ITALY SWEEDEN ...
youtube.com
Mr White
Oh?
3 AK rounds and only weighs 1 lb.
We will keep you informed of any updates and contracts.
Mr Scarlet
Hello all, Mr Scarlet from the Maritime security division. Just so everyone knows we are still looking for interested parties for maritime security.  Interest in one aspect of what the company does will not disqualify you from another.
Mr White
Ok guys, be back later.
ok
What experience?
What kind*
Mr Orange
I believe I need two 3s and one 4
Mr White
Welcome back Mr Yellow.
I specify these arms to provide economy of ammo and magazines.
To bring you up to speed.
We talked about uniforms and the reasons we are not taking Marpat for the Somali op.
Any questions or comments?
Mr Blue
he's been with allied barton for just over a year now
Mr Orange
Here are the laws concerning firearms used by contract security in Utah.  Based on what I read, we can issue pretty much any firearm legally owned by any civilian, as long as the officer in possession is only armed while on duty in an official capacity for the company and can show a completion of training qualifications in that firearm.  This includes shot guns and rifles.
Mr White
What is his position there
Mr Yellow
I would use Multicam frog suit, keeps the body temps cool and they are pretty tough, I have put mine through the ringer, I was pretty close to Somalia not too long ago and its still really hot everywhere over here
Mr White
http://youtu.be/Fm1qCc2iMMw

Posted by Mr Pink a min ago.
THE WORLD'S 45 BEST CAMOS
The world's 45 best camos of modern military (not in ranking order) Featuring: USA RUSSIA UNITED KINGDOM GERMANY SPAIN FRANCE AUSTRALIA CANADA ITALY SWEEDEN ...
youtube.com
?
Mr Orange
See http://www.rules.utah.gov/publicat/code/r156/r156-63a.htm#T19
Mr Blue
he is a shift supervisor
Mr Orange
section R156-63a-601 - 604
Mr White
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBwFvtMrGTg
That's nice.  What did he do in the Military?
This is from an airsofter, but shows Digi Flora
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBHi-J5OcTQ
Airsoftec: Reviews-Digital Flora Camouflage
This is one of the newest types of camouflage available from the Russian Federation, and it is pretty expensive, but really cool.
youtube.com
Thank You.
Also, what are his current responsibilities with AB as a supervisor?
Mr Yellow, please post what you know about the Situation in Somalia.
I am not seeing my post from this afternoon.  Did everyone else see the Job descriptions?
Mr Blue
i'm not certain as to what he did in the corp or what the full extent of his responsibilities are with AB. i would have to get ahold of him by phone
Mr White
Anyway, I am assuming that my previous messages did not go through.
ok
Mr Yellow
Cant run anything on here
Mr White
Here is the BASIC list of job types for Redacted.

I am currently putting our ROE Proposal together.
I do not believe the "Don't fire on unless shot at".
I DO believe in, hit the bad guy, not the civvies.
Mr Red
I would say that is correct.
Mr White
Mr Scarlet
Mr Blue
Hey Mr White. On an unrelated note, how much snow do you see up in the (city) area?
Mr White
stood*
Mr Blue
It would have to pertain to personal logistics as to how often I would have to "garage" my motorcycle and assume alternate forms of transportation to work.
Mr White
Unarmed Security
This service offers security officers in or out of uniform for securing, guarding, or otherwise protecting tangible personal property, real property, or the life and well being of human or animal life.

These threats or transgressions include but not limited to; trespass or other unlawful intrusion or entry; larceny; vandalism or other abuse; arson or other criminal activity.  These guards also provide protection against personal injury caused by another person.
Lastly these guards can provide and compliment the physical security of a facility or area by directing the flow and access of employees and visitors by providing foot and or vehicle patrols of the facility or area grounds to provide immediate response for any of the above transgressions.
Security officers are available for long term contracts providing 24 hour / business hours security or on a limited bases for special events. All officers are trained in how to handle various situations to include the apprehension of offenders, physical security concepts, conflict resolution, active shooter response, natural disaster preparation, and recovery, safety inspection and more.
An additional service that can be provided by these officers is immediate medical response. Officers can be trained as EMS if required.

Armed Security

This service provides all the features of an unarmed guard, with the exception of being armed to provide extra security for high value assets.  Weapon systems carried by these officers range from revolvers to high powered assault rifles, depending on the needs and requirements of the client.

Executive Protection
The executive protection division provides personal security for VIPs and their families, as well as the top level protection of assets. Our executive protection agents provide continuous dedicated security on a 24 hour basis or for limited contract.  Such as providing additional security for visiting dignitaries, escort from port of entry or other locations as required.
All of our agents are trained in proactively identifying potential threats, engaging threats with the proper degree of force, have extensive hand to hand and firearm training, providing EMS medical assistance and defensive / offensive driving capabilities.

Tactical Operator
Our Tactical Operators provide armed security in high risk areas or locations where there is a high possibility of assets being engaged by terrorist and/or hostile forces.
Tactical operators work as special operation teams ranging from a minimum of five personnel, up to and including company strength.
This service can include High Intensity Operations in foreign countries.  All operators are specially trained to handle a variety of situations and receive operation specific training based on the needs of the client.
Tactical operations can include the use of military grade equipment such as armored assault vehicles, heavy weapons, and air support.  All of these services can be molded to the needs of the client as required.
Mr Yellow
I am the same way, if someone raises a firearm or anything that could harm me or my team at us, they are done. End of story
Mr Red
That came through fine.
Mr White
Assume about 4 months out of the year. We have a lot of snow, but the roads are well plowed. the temperature fluctuates so it might be more or less on any given year.
 some years it is green all the way to Christmas. Other times we might have 2 to 4 feet of snow. Average is about a foot or less.
Mr Blue
Ok. Looks like side wind and bridges will get replaced by snow and possible black ice.
Mr White
We need the following specialists.
That's the basic idea.
Armorer
Possibly
Mr Blue
To be a security guard in Florida, I need a class D and G license. I may have asked you this in the past, but what kind of certification would I need and what would the associated costs be?
Mr White
Admin
Mr White


1 tan Ilbe style pack minus top pouch, 1 USMC issued e-tool carrier and tan case, 1 Usmc ISO mat, 1 combat knife and 1 survival knife, 1 serrated blade machete, 1 desert MarPat camelback, 1 pair shooting gloves, 1 pair fingerless gloves, 1 identity mask, 3 combination locks, multiple rolls of electrical and duct tape, 1 case of protective ear plugs, 1 case of sterilized masks and gloves, 1 snakebite and insect venom removal Kit, 1 full set of Usmc issued cold weather pro, 1 full sized Medkit, 3 skivvy rolls, 1 twin size tent, 1 cold weather sleeping bag, 1 body powder, 1 body powder, baby wipes, peroxide, alcohol, and calamine lotion, and 2 sets of MarPat woodland/desert cammies. Will have a sappy carrier or flak within days. If we stepped off now that's what I'd have.
Right now (2) 4 Sappy Plates, kevlar helmet, rifle, pistol, IFAC, gas mask, magazines, and magazine pouches are what I need. I neglected to mention prior that I also have my 2 canteens, 2 canteen pouches, and
rifle cleaning Kit.
Mr White
I'm still looking for a source for training. So far the internet hasn't been very helpful, so I'm going to start going to local gun stores and find out if they know.
Mr White
 Mr Pink

I have basically the same minus the cold weather gear and medical/hygiene items. I also have 1 pair of multicam cammies  1 pistol with cleaning gear, case, belt, holster and mag pouches.

As for the uniforms I'm not liking the one with the tie, however I support the casual uniform. As for operators my vote is on multicam, wedding being marine marpat.
Mr White
Intel
Communications
Mr Blue
Roger that. Thank you for your time.
Mr White
Mr Yellow

I agree, water is the biggest thing I am running through roughly a 5 gallon jerry can per day and a half to two days, need to know what kind of bugs you can and cant eat, solar stills produce a decent amount of water as long as you have enough veg, you can post my shit, dig a few inches into the sand or dirt and its roughly 60 degrees cooler even in the sun and just need to know what axis the sun is on because north will change slightly due to the area, sometimes illum on nights is nonexistent so nightvision gear is a must, even thermals work ok. Good maps and compasses area needed and lots of water purification equipment
Mr Yellow
Instead of USMC issue sleeping gear look into snugpak gear, much smaller than the US issue, save on weight and does better on the stats. You can fit a blow up body mat, bivy sack and sleeping bag with blow up pillow in a small butt pack the sive of a fanny pack
Mr White
Supply
Mr Yellow
How are things going brother?
Mr White
Transportation
Nice.
Mr White
Here is Mr Yellow’s gear list so far,
Mr Yellow

Im good on gear just got a new Sig Scorpion 1911 btw. Still got my 5.11 chest rig ready to grab at a moments notice, my SCAR needs to be re BZO'd, got my shorty 12ga breacher ready to go and either my Glock 40 or my .380 backup guns are ready to. I can put all that in my pelican case with all my mags, grab my go bag and be out the door in less than 10 minutes. Just need night vision gear or thermals if the company has any. I would be carrying 6 PMAGs with 5.56, 2 mags with either .40 or .45 ammo for either the Glock or 1911 and 1 mag for the .380 not including the mags that will be in the guns themselves.
Mr White

This is my weapon list, since my gear list is being inventoried by myself right now.
Any Questions?
Mr White
Mr Gray from Redacted?
Mr Orange
Yes
Mr White
ok.
Mr Orange
He's a 41 do he'd be a vital asset, especially since you're researching mortars
Mr White
I agree, he can be an asset, IF he's up on his thumper knowledge.
How long has it been since he "Stroked a tube?"
Otherwise, he'll just be a rifle guy.
Mr Orange
Hell if I know, Mr Pink would have to answer that
Mr Pink
He was attached to a line company.
Mr White
ok
That's good
ask him which system he would prefer to use if we can get it.
Mr Pink
As in which mortar?
Mr White
Don't expect one.  It will be on the "Wish list" not the we guarantee it lis
List*
And yes, which mortar.
Even if we acquire the tube, we might not have many rounds.  I'm working on it, but no promises.
Mr Pink
I'll ask
Mr White
ok
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