Sun Genius

23:38 Superpowerdude hey Dr Ciel do you have time to talk about the sun team?
23:39 DrCiel I can make some time
23:39 Superpowerdude ok so
23:40 Superpowerdude we obviously have to start of with Ninetales but is the anything in particular we want to use?
23:40 Superpowerdude like a certain poke
23:40 DrCiel Well since Sun is "mostly" offensive
23:41 Superpowerdude yere
23:41 DrCiel I was also thinking about using Sawsbuck for our Chlorophyhll sweeper
23:42 Superpowerdude i like sawsbuck its cute :D
23:42 Superpowerdude yeah we can make an offensive sun team around sawsbuck
23:43 DrCiel I like it.
23:43 Superpowerdude we should use the winter sprite for the mindgames in sun haha :D
23:43 DrCiel Ye
23:44 DrCiel Also since Winter is coming up (for me)
23:44 Superpowerdude yeah :) the swords dance set is the only set to go imo
23:45 DrCiel SD/Return/Horn Leech and Nature Power or Jump Kick
23:46 Superpowerdude yeah
23:46 Superpowerdude as for Ninetales i almost always use the Sunny Day set its the best set there is imo and the only set i think ninetales should run thoughts?
23:46 DrCiel Yeah'
23:47 DrCiel That;s basically  ALL I see
23:47 Superpowerdude hmmm i dont want to start jumping into other team members but Choice Band Scizor looks like quite a good partner for Sawsbuck tbh
23:48 DrCiel True
23:48 DrCiel But let's go one at a time'
23:48 Superpowerdude Pursuit traps Gengar or kills it with Bullet Punch who happens to be able to wall Sawsbuck, Beat Mamoswine who threatens Sawsbuck and Ninetales and he also can trap Latias who is a common threat to sun teams
23:49 Superpowerdude he can also beat ttar another threat to sun
23:49 Superpowerdude we do get another Fire weakness we will have to patch up later though
23:50 DrCiel Yeah.
23:52 DrCiel Hmm
23:52 Superpowerdude ?
23:53 DrCiel Thinking
23:53 Superpowerdude a fighting resist would also be nice
23:54 DrCiel Latios/As is optimal here.
23:54 Superpowerdude true
23:54 Superpowerdude Starmie would also not be bad either because it provides rapid spin support
23:55 Superpowerdude all three of them resisr fighting and water so thats good
23:55 DrCiel We could use a Bulky Starmie
23:55 Superpowerdude and we will need a fighting and water-type resist if we decide to use Heatran somewhere down the track
23:55 Superpowerdude yeah bulky Starmie sounds good
23:56 Superpowerdude with Psychock / Rapid Spin / Recover / Filler?
23:56 DrCiel Scald most likely
23:57 Superpowerdude yeah but it gets weakend in sun
23:57 Superpowerdude Hidden Power [Fire] gives us a good Ferrothorn lure
23:57 Superpowerdude even Ice Beam might work in the slot
23:57 DrCiel OOh, that sounds good.
23:58 Superpowerdude so Hp FIre?
23:58 DrCiel Yeah.
23:58 Superpowerdude cool
23:58 Superpowerdude we only need 216 evs in speed so we can outspeed Gengar and get it with Psyshock
23:59 Superpowerdude since we dont have Thunderbolt speed tying with other Starmie is useless
23:59 DrCiel Yup.
00:00 Superpowerdude so Sunny Day Ninetales / Swords Dance Sawsbuck / Bulky Starmie / Choice Band Scizor?
00:00 DrCiel Yup
00:00 Superpowerdude well hmm
00:01 Superpowerdude Dugtrio is nice to have on sun teams to trap ttar
00:01 DrCiel Yeah
00:01 Superpowerdude with Memento it can give Sawsbuck more set up oppurtunities
00:01 Superpowerdude and it also gives our team a form of hazards which it didnt have before
00:02 Superpowerdude Stealth Rock
00:02 DrCiel Sounds nice.
00:02 Superpowerdude yeah so we got 1 left
00:02 Superpowerdude :D
00:03 Superpowerdude we need 'the glue'
00:04 DrCiel Indeed
00:05 Superpowerdude btw since Ninetales and Sawsbuck are the most important members of the team we can nickname them after us!
00:05 Superpowerdude i have to go soon btw
00:05 Superpowerdude when i pick the last member i like to go through the threatlist and see what will help us the most!
00:05 Superpowerdude against our threats
00:06 DrCiel Exactly what I do
00:07 Superpowerdude so i got the threatlist http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3464038
00:07 Superpowerdude lets try and find pokes that threaten our team
00:07 Superpowerdude !
00:07 Superpowerdude great minds think alike
00:07 DrCiel Already had the thread up from the staer
00:07 DrCiel *start
00:08 Superpowerdude what about Choice Scarf Victini? I have not looked through the threatlist yet but Victini provides another Fire and Fighting-type resist and a choice scarf user our team currently lacks
00:09 Superpowerdude i dont know yet though i will look through the threatlist
00:09 Superpowerdude i guess i will end up trying a lot of things in the last team slot
00:09 DrCiel Hell, I've looked at the threatlist so many times, I know it off the top of my head
00:10 Superpowerdude hang on Victini makes us quite weak to rain
00:10 DrCiel True
00:11 Superpowerdude actually it doesnt really
00:11 Superpowerdude oh wait yeah it does lol
00:11 Superpowerdude i forgot we had Ninetales XD
00:11 DrCiel Figures
00:12 Superpowerdude never the less i will still try out Victini anyway
00:12 Superpowerdude i think we should get a few pokemon we can try in the last team slot
00:12 DrCiel Yeah.
00:16 DrCiel *sigh*
00:16 Superpowerdude what about Choice Scarf Salamence?
00:16 DrCiel !
00:16 Superpowerdude gives us a good late game cleaner and Choice Scarf user
00:17 Superpowerdude we will probally find more shit later but for now we got
00:17 Superpowerdude Ninetale / Sawsbuck / Scizor / Starmie / Dugtrio / Salamence
00:17 Superpowerdude and
00:17 Superpowerdude Ninetale / Sawsbuck / Scizor / Starmie / Dugtrio / Victini
00:18 Superpowerdude i will try both
00:18 DrCiel We can each try one

00:18 Superpowerdude yeah i havnt tested it yet so i dont know if it would be good or not but it looks pretty creative so i am quite happy :D
00:18 Superpowerdude gotta go now
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