[3:50 PM] King Murdoc: e.g. the taargur were super chill friendly explorers, but they never settled anywhere due to being over-adapted to their homeworld
[3:51 PM] King Murdoc: but then they slowly - and collectively - developed a grudge against the universe
[3:51 PM] King Murdoc: because i kept meeting fucking spiritualists
[3:51 PM] King Murdoc: or authoritarians
[3:52 PM] King Murdoc: it helped(?) that they were Venerable i.e. lived super fuckin long
[3:52 PM] BOTPalantir: <Solymr> the point im aiming for is between getting battleships and being able to defeat leviathans
[3:53 PM] BOTPalantir: <Solymr> space mercs yo
[3:54 PM] King Murdoc: i got battleships super early with them but couldn't beat leviathans until much later
[3:54 PM] King Murdoc: since opop technology but no fleet cap
[3:54 PM] BOTPalantir: <Solymr> perfect '<.
[3:54 PM] King Murdoc: i think that was also around when i started to get cybernetics
[3:56 PM] King Murdoc: they also liked to uplift people and had lots of client species
[3:56 PM] BOTPalantir: <Solymr> so in this galaxy at that point
[3:57 PM] BOTPalantir: <Solymr> how would you fit a small band of players a la fef?
[3:59 PM] King Murdoc: science missions
[3:59 PM] King Murdoc: fighting space pirates
[3:59 PM] King Murdoc: courier services 'cause space is dangerous
[4:00 PM] King Murdoc: maybe there are border skirmishes and stuff
[4:00 PM] King Murdoc: since there was a lot of border friction in that game
[4:00 PM] King Murdoc: sekrit missions to steal FE tech
[4:00 PM] Lucus: Journeys to THE SHROUD
[4:02 PM] King Murdoc: you could also have like guarding new colonies
[4:02 PM] King Murdoc: peacekeeping missions
[4:06 PM] Shiina 'Misha' Mikado: yoy
[4:09 PM] BOTPalantir: <Solymr> what was the most notable thing to happen during that timeframe
[4:10 PM] King Murdoc: uhhhh
[4:10 PM] King Murdoc: i think the tumbator states fought with a spiritual FE
[4:10 PM] King Murdoc: boshnakan corporation warred council of taarg to a draw
[4:11 PM] King Murdoc: boshakeran
[4:11 PM] King Murdoc: something like that
[4:11 PM] BOTPalantir: <Solymr> did the fe stomp the other one? :v
[4:11 PM] King Murdoc: ye
[4:11 PM] BOTPalantir: <Solymr> lul
[4:12 PM] King Murdoc: i think the isolationist fe warred the spiritual seekers at some point
[4:12 PM] King Murdoc: but idr when
[4:14 PM] BOTPalantir: <Solymr> was there a war in heaven or was it just regular war
[4:14 PM] King Murdoc: actually the council fought a lot of wars
[4:14 PM] King Murdoc: no war in heaven
[4:14 PM] King Murdoc: spiritualists warred the interventionists at one point
[4:14 PM] King Murdoc: and got fucking rekt
[4:14 PM] Shiina 'Misha' Mikado: rip
[4:14 PM] King Murdoc: but it was just a normal war
[4:15 PM] King Murdoc: you don't have to follow the world 100% tho
[4:15 PM] BOTPalantir: <Solymr> im thinking of a war in heaven of really epic proportions
[4:16 PM] King Murdoc: unless you count super-taarg vs the interventionists
[4:16 PM] King Murdoc: which was basically a war in heaven
[4:16 PM] BOTPalantir: <Solymr> well
[4:16 PM] King Murdoc: That was later though
[4:16 PM] BOTPalantir: <Solymr> thats the thing
[4:16 PM] BOTPalantir: <Solymr> the taarg are the third party
[4:17 PM] King Murdoc: there were four other notable civs iirc
[4:17 PM] BOTPalantir: <Solymr> so the space amigos will get to fight both aes on their behalf
[4:18 PM] King Murdoc: tumbator something or other, I'd have to check their ethics but i don't think they changed much
[4:18 PM] BOTPalantir: <Solymr> would be interesting to have more variety
[4:18 PM] King Murdoc: They're the one mammaliam portrait with six eyes and a big snout
[4:19 PM] BOTPalantir: <Solymr> and rebelling planets and stuff like fanatic purifiers or some other midgame big enemy
[4:19 PM] King Murdoc: i think they're hegemonic imperialists
[4:22 PM] King Murdoc: one thing about the game
[4:22 PM] King Murdoc: is that while there weren't really that many major empiries
[4:22 PM] King Murdoc: there's a fucktillion tiny ones that are protectorates and stuff
[4:30 PM] King Murdoc: to give you an idea
[4:30 PM] King Murdoc: http://prntscr.com/heg18b
[4:31 PM] King Murdoc: this is unions mapmode right now
[4:31 PM] King Murdoc: turns out a few of my protectorates are also just
[4:31 PM] King Murdoc: my color
[4:31 PM] King Murdoc: http://prntscr.com/heg1wu this is no unions
[4:32 PM] King Murdoc: http://prntscr.com/heg268 the prossnaks have a history of a professional relationship with the taarg
[4:33 PM] King Murdoc: while at the time we're talking they weren't a client state yet, they were one of the few states that wasn't openly hostile toward the council and one of the big reasons they continued to survive
[4:35 PM] King Murdoc: http://prntscr.com/heg2u8 the bokasherans were pretty actively hostile for a long time, since they were a spiritualist megacorporation. They were eventually invaded and broken up, with their remnants being slowly absorbed by the council; at this time, though, they were an active threat and allied with the tumbator.
[4:38 PM] King Murdoc: http://prntscr.com/heg3j4 tumbator confederation of suns is probably the council's oldest enemy. They controlled a sizable portion of the galaxy before an AI rebellion (supported basically openly by the Council, who had synthetically ascended at that point) broke their territory in half. They also lost a chunk of their territory fairly on when it was liberated by the Council, which became the Allied Tumbator States, a loyal ally and eventually client state
[4:40 PM] King Murdoc: http://prntscr.com/heg4t9 Kithri Pious Sovereignty ended up allying with the Tumbator, but took quite a long time to become openly hostile. As of now their territory is largely untouched, since as pacifists they never pursued a war of aggression on their own against the Council - but that didn't stop them from supporting the wars of the Tumbator and Bokasherans.
[4:42 PM] King Murdoc: http://prntscr.com/heg5h6 dorbolan peacekeepers awakened pretty early; they were good friends of the Council for a long time but eventually became hostile after they refused to sign the treaty; this was one of the only cases of Taarg-Tumbator cooperation, as they sponsored the independance of their then-numerous signatories.
[4:44 PM] King Murdoc: http://prntscr.com/heg68d the uthonian watchers were around at the time you're talking about and were unfriendly to. . . everyone, but mostly the tumbator and the taarg; the former because they tried to settle a holy world and the latter because they were cyborgs and later synth ascended. They were eventually annexed entirely by the Dorbolan.
[4:46 PM] King Murdoc: http://prntscr.com/heg78o the vivisandia are almost completely extinct, though at the time you're looking at they still clashed with the kithri frequently; they weren't really that notable except for being an isolationist FE
[4:46 PM] King Murdoc: RP-wise [the Taarg] were friendly explorers and scientists
[4:46 PM] Shiina 'Misha' Mikado: this ought to be hilarious
[4:47 PM] King Murdoc: and one of the least xenophobic civs out there except for the kithri
[4:47 PM] King Murdoc: (and the observers ofc)
[4:47 PM] King Murdoc: and also had hard times adapting to other worlds
[4:47 PM] King Murdoc: so if you did actually want to center it on them it'd make sense
[4:47 PM] King Murdoc: they also had a shitton of loyal protectorates and uplifted species
[4:47 PM] King Murdoc: had/have
[4:48 PM] King Murdoc: Including the Awoken
[4:48 PM] Twinwolf: I can see them sorta like these mysterious science guys in my head
[4:48 PM] Twinwolf: And eventually mysterious ultra-advanced robots
[4:49 PM] King Murdoc: oh they were slow breeders too
[4:50 PM] King Murdoc: i figured it was more the party was hired by them to do X
[4:53 PM] Twinwolf: I mean
Solymr could just take GM-liberties with the setting and like "also if you wanna play humans they're one of the many minor nations"
[4:54 PM] BOTPalantir: <Clonymr> well km did like to uplift species
[4:56 PM] King Murdoc: what twin said
[4:56 PM] King Murdoc: sanctuary is also in the game
[4:56 PM] King Murdoc: which has like
[4:56 PM] King Murdoc: a billion pre-ftl species
[4:57 PM] King Murdoc: the minor nations thing
[4:57 PM] King Murdoc: http://prntscr.com/hegbiv also bonus: my current fleet