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  1. Verl R1
  2.  
  3. * Jason is much stronger than Raizo
  4.  
  5. * Raizo lacks the durability to not get one shot
  6.  
  7. * It's too hard to put Jason down
  8.  
  9. * Jason is "fast"
  10.  
  11. * Horror teleporting works on Raizo, who wouldn't use shadowstep
  12.  
  13. * Jason will find Raizo so stealth won't work
  14.  
  15. * Preston shoot good
  16.  
  17. * Preston is very skilled
  18.  
  19. * With a katana, Preston stomps a direct peer
  20.  
  21. * The truck is only used as a fear tactic, so as stipped he won't use it
  22.  
  23. * Skill issue
  24.  
  25. * Creeper's bullet resistance isn't good enough
  26.  
  27. * Lance has better endurance
  28.  
  29. * Lance is stronger and hits hard
  30.  
  31. * Lance is durable and skilled
  32.  
  33. * Khan isn't strong or durable enough
  34.  
  35. ***
  36.  
  37. Corv R1
  38.  
  39. * Raizo takes out the lights
  40.  
  41. * Skill issue
  42.  
  43. * Raizo has amazing stealth and senses
  44.  
  45. * Raizo can use Shadowstep
  46.  
  47. * Stealth diff
  48.  
  49. * Raizo dismembers Jason and he can't regen fast enough
  50.  
  51. * Creeper is very resistant to gunfire
  52.  
  53. * Preston's fighting style doesn't work on Creeper due to their strength diff
  54.  
  55. * Creeper is fast and has ranged attacks
  56.  
  57. * Preston's training against gunfire relies on their linear path and isn't meant for projectiles with a swaying path
  58.  
  59. * Khan is stronger
  60.  
  61. * Khan's oil sweat prevents grappling
  62.  
  63. * Khan's size gives her an advantage especially if she takes him off the ground
  64.  
  65. * Khan is stronger than Cap who Verlux admitted can crumple and shatter Lance's armor
  66.  
  67. * Khan's tentacles can pierce through Lance's armor
  68.  
  69. * Khan is tanky
  70.  
  71. * Khan can manipulate Lance's mass with quick strikes with fatal strikes increasing in chance every time this happens
  72.  
  73. * Lance's endurance feats fail to acknowledge organ, ligament, or skeletal damage that Khan could inflict
  74.  
  75. * Most of his endurance feats are flesh wounds or not great
  76.  
  77. * Khan is nimble, feels no pain, and perfectly capable of taking deep wounds to secure a kill shot
  78.  
  79. * Piercing resistance isn't important for Khan, even if she loses tentacles, as long as she just removes Lancelot's weapon hand, it's worth it
  80.  
  81. * Skill issue
  82.  
  83. ***
  84.  
  85. Verl R2
  86.  
  87. * Jason is advantaged in the dark
  88.  
  89. * Jason can hit faster opponents, all he needs is one hit
  90.  
  91. * Jason can dodge
  92.  
  93. * Jason blitzes armed foes
  94.  
  95. * Raizo's showings aren't impressive since he's just more skilled than them
  96.  
  97. * Stips mean no shadowstep
  98.  
  99. * Jason does regen fast
  100.  
  101. * Creeper's piercing resistance isn't as good as argued
  102.  
  103. * Creeper's regen is bad
  104.  
  105. * Joint manipulation counters the strength difference
  106.  
  107. * Creeper is slower
  108.  
  109. * Skill difference
  110.  
  111. * Khan's scaling doesn't show actual examples of strength
  112.  
  113. * Khan isn't stronger than Cap and isn't that fast
  114.  
  115. * Lance is the better brick
  116.  
  117. * Lance one shots with the opening hit
  118.  
  119. * Skill issue
  120.  
  121. ***
  122.  
  123. Corv R3
  124.  
  125. * Raizo fights better in the dark than Jason
  126.  
  127. * Jason is clearly slow
  128.  
  129. * Raizo is clearly fast and slices a lot
  130.  
  131. * Skill issue
  132.  
  133. * His regen is still bad
  134.  
  135. * The strength disparity is too massive to overcome with joint manipulation
  136.  
  137. * Preston doesn't have a win condition
  138.  
  139. * Khan is stronger than Cap and takes hits stronger than that from Lancelot
  140.  
  141. * Khan is fast
  142.  
  143. * Lance risks more in close range than Khan does
  144.  
  145. ***
  146.  
  147. Judgements
  148.  
  149. Something something skill something something skill.
  150.  
  151. Raizo vs Jason
  152.  
  153. Raizo wins. I think it's obvious from looking at any Raizo and Jason clip that Raizo is much faster and skilled than Jason. While Jason one shot's Raizo if he could land a blow, I don't see that ever happening with how agile and slick Raizo is. I don't buy the stip arguments over Raizo's ability to use Shadow Step because he's healthy, but even without it, Raizo is still more than capable of outmaneuvering around the sluggish Jason. I don't think Jason's regen has been provably shown to quickly recover from being bisected and decapitated over and over from a much faster foe.
  154.  
  155. Preston vs Creeper
  156.  
  157. Creeper wins. A big point in this argument was over Creeper's piercing resistance as Preston's main source of damage relies on it. While I do think Preston could pierce Creeper, I don't think it matters. Corv shows that Creeper takes sustained gunfire from a weapon much stronger than what Preston is packing. Even if the shots land, Creeper would just keep going. I don't think Preston is capable of being able to effectively put Creeper down as even if he slices his face off, Creeper could just retreat and heal. While it's not a quick regen, Creeper's large mobility advantage makes it easier to pull off. Meanwhile, any single attack from Creeper just puts Preston down. Joint manipulation doesn't matter against someone magnitudes upon magnitudes stronger than you.
  158.  
  159. Khanivore vs Lancelot
  160.  
  161. Khanivore wins. Khanivore as argued is just more advantaged in a close range fight. Corv shows that she's a tricky fighter, using feints to gain free hits, or purposefully taking hits to gain a killing blow. The tentacles are clearly shown to be fast, even if Lancelot cuts down one, he's still turning into a pincushion. I don't think the grappling arguments matter all too much for this fight. While Lancelot probably has the better lifting strength, the oily sweat prevents a grappling win con, and the tentacles get rid of his leverage. With how both fighters fight, Khanivore landing a single blow matters more than Lancelot landing a single blow. Khanivore piercing through Lancelot's head, vital organs, etc ends the fight, but on the other hand, Khanivore's unique physiology and willingness to take hits to land her own secure her win in this fight.
  162.  
  163. Corv wins 3-0
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