Brazilian Senate UFO Hearing Part 1

I declare this session open.

Under the protection of God, we begin our work.

I want to extend a special welcome to everyone here with us, guests and also to those who are interested and have come to the Federal Senate to participate in this session, which I consider historic.

This session is dedicated to commemorating the 75 years of World UFO Day.
Now, I'd like to introduce our panel for today. Unfortunately, we can only accommodate four guests here at the table who will remain throughout the session, but we will also call upon some speakers who will use the podium to give their presentations.
Therefore, to form the panel, I'd like to invite Mr. Ademar José Gevaerd, a lecturer, director of the UFO magazine, and Honorary Director of the Mutual UFO Network in Brazil.

Please, the floor is yours. Thank you very much.

I'd like to seize this moment to extend an invitation to Mr. Wilson Picler, a founding partner and President of Grupo Uninter, based in Paraná but operating throughout the country.

Thank you very much for being here.

I'd also like to introduce... We have the presence of two distinguished international guests, both highly knowledgeable in the field, scholars with numerous publications, who came to Brazil specifically for this occasion. I want to make it clear to our viewers that the Federal Senate did not expend any resources for their attendance. They are here because they were determined to participate, and I'm thrilled to have them with us, as their presence will undoubtedly enrich and elevate this solemn event.

Therefore, I'd like to welcome Dr. Gary Heseltine to the stage. Please join us at our table. Dr. Heseltine is a retired British police detective.

Please take a seat.

I'd also like to extend an honored invitation to the Board for the American Ufology researcher, Mr. Robert Lambert Salas. I had the opportunity to follow his work through some comments I came across.

Thank you very much for being here. Welcome.

Thank you very much.

The Chair would like to inform everyone that this session will also have the participation of other esteemed guests who are present here with us.

Mr. Geraldo Lemos Neto, a writer who I extend my gratitude to, is seated in the front row.

Mr. Jackson Luiz Camargo, a specialist in analyzing official documentation, is also here with us.

Thank you very much.

Mr. Thiago Ticchetti - hope I pronounced that correctly - a lecturer, government advisor, and President of the Brazilian Commission of Ufologists (CBU).

Thank you very much for gracing us with your presence.

Mr. Rony Vernet, an electronic engineer specializing in industrial automation and telecommunications, is also among us.

Thank you very much for being here.

Mr. Inajar Antonio Kurowski, a university professor in both undergraduate and graduate programs, a police officer, and a criminal expert at the Institute of Criminalistics of Paraná. I recall having the chance to meet you during a lecture at the last congress held in Curitiba, correct? It was in Curitiba in the month of...

March of this year, and your presentation there was equally impressive.

So, I thank everyone.

I want to invite everyone to stand in a position of respect as we listen to the Brazilian National Anthem.

So, if you would all please rise, I thank you.

Well, I'd like to provide a brief introduction here because, after NASA launched the Hubble Space Telescope into orbit in the 1990s, humanity had to completely revise its perspective on the Universe. In the first ten years of the telescope's operation, 30,000 new galaxies previously unknown to us were photographed, some of which contain over 1 trillion stars.

Our own galaxy, the Milky Way, had its size reevaluated, increasing from 100 billion to over 200 billion stars.

After 30 years of space research, based on the Hubble's deep field observations, scientists estimate that the observable universe contains more than 200 billion galaxies. We are talking about galaxies and stars, as only planets closer to Earth can be observed with our current technology. Even with this significant limitation, it's possible to estimate that, in just our galaxy alone, there are at least 2 trillion planets.

These data are enough to establish that statistically, the existence of intelligent life is impossible to be confined solely to planet Earth, which is nothing more than a tiny speck of dust in the face of the magnificent vastness of the visible universe.

In short, a sentence that has stuck with me since childhood when this subject ignited my curiosity: it's an immense presumption for humans to believe that we are alone in the Universe of my God.

So, we are greatly honored. It's truly gratifying to have this opportunity to organize such an important event here at the Federal Senate, dedicated to celebrating the 75 years of World UFO Day. This date was chosen due to a massive sighting of unidentified flying objects, UFOs, in the airspace of the United States in 1947. Interestingly, on exactly this day, June 24, 1947.

Dozens of nations established official structures for monitoring these events, most often under the command of their Armed Forces. Brazil was the first country in the world to officially recognize the existence of unidentified flying objects of extraterrestrial origin in the year 1954. Only 22 years later, in 1976, France became the second country to do so.

Over the past decades, a significant number of observations have accumulated within Brazilian airspace. One of the most noteworthy cases occurred in 1986 when 21 spherical UFOs, each with a diameter of 100 meters, were tracked for hours by Brazilian Air Force fighter jets.

The Air Force has already made available to the National Archives in Brasília over 20,000 pages of documents containing records of spacecraft movements that do not align with our technological capabilities. But there is much more information that still needs to become public knowledge. Why not? The age-old question remains: if such sightings, such possibilities, indeed exist, what kind of insights can these intelligences bring to us? In what realms can this occur? We will hear all of this from individuals who study these matters.

We find ourselves in a delicate moment in human history, not just due to the pandemic that we've experienced, which prompted us to reconsider our daily lives, what's important in life - being close to family, fraternity, reevaluating our values - but also due to the ongoing conflict between Russia and Ukraine. In this challenging time that humanity is facing in the 21st century, it's crucial for us to reflect on all of these matters.

The same situation holds true in the United States - speaking of sightings. In 2021, amidst the pandemic, the Pentagon released a detailed report on 144 cases of sightings, with only 1 out of the 144 cases - just 1 - having an explanation that aligns with conditions on our planet.

On this day as well, the first ufology museum in Latin America, located here in Brazil in the municipality of Itaara, Rio Grande do Sul, celebrates its 21st anniversary of existence. Besides a vast collection, this museum also features a bioastronomical observatory.

Look, sincerely, I hope that this session...

And I want to extend my gratitude to the President of the Senate, Rodrigo Pacheco, who provided this space and conducted the vote that unanimously approved the opportunity for us to hold this session in celebration of the 75 years of World UFO Day. So, I wanted to thank him because this House is democratic. In this House, we absolutely shouldn't have any kind of prejudice. It's a subject that indeed deserves reflection and attention because it has, in a way - as we will see here - scientific studies concerning the matter.

Therefore, we greatly anticipate that this session will be enlightening and serve as the initial step to further our research and be open to this topic here in Brazil. It's also hoped that this homage will encourage governmental organizations to provide comprehensive information about the subject.

I want to express my gratitude to everyone and say that the American Senate... Look at the synchronicity, because our request was approved on March 17, 2022, but at the time of our approval, the date hadn't been set yet. However, the American Congress held a public hearing on May 17 - exactly two months after our request was approved here - to discuss the report released by the Pentagon in 2021. It's interesting to note. Personally, I had no idea, and I don't know if the experts here were aware that the Senate had approved such a request and already conducted a hearing. I didn't have that understanding.

On June 9, 2022 - see how the topic is quite current at the moment - NASA announced the establishment of a group dedicated to studying unidentified aerial phenomena from a scientific standpoint. This includes both UFOs and the observation of natural events in the sky that are still unknown.

So, I'd like to begin right away because we're here to listen, and my intention here is also to learn, without any judgment. I believe we need to have that humility to learn from those who study, from those who are dedicated to the field of ufology.

It's always good to remember that ufology is the set of subjects and activities - as stated in Wikipedia - associated with the interest in unidentified flying objects and related phenomena that serve as subjects of investigation for governments, independent groups of journalists and scientists, or the general societal interest. Phenomena related to ufology can have diverse characteristics, ranging from alleged contacts with extraterrestrials, abductions, communications, to disasters theoretically originating...

So, we're going to hear about this topic here since this culture also exists in Brazil... I believe our first speaker, Dr. Picler, will discuss what Brazilians think about this subject. He has conducted various research on this topic.

Therefore, I'd like to immediately grant the floor for 15 minutes... This will be the protocol we'll follow, the procedure. Each speaker will have 15 minutes, with a tolerance of five minutes, to conclude their presentation.

In the end, I will read some questions from the audience, some inquiries that you've submitted through e-Cidadania, the Senate portal I mentioned earlier, as well as from the phone lines, and also allocate five minutes for final remarks from each speaker.