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NJNP vs LL Argument for BL Ubers 2.0 Council

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  1. 7:58 AM] LL: @2 GF's why dont you replace BTB with someone from den that was on the bl ubers council to have some continuity between tiers
  2. [7:58 AM] LL: like me seal sorry or insult
  3. [7:59 AM] 2 GF's: Im kinda getting tired of den feeling like this idea was stolen and they are entitled
  4. [8:00 AM] LL: it just would help the tier develop more smoothly
  5. [8:00 AM] LL: we both know z0mog and btb dont give a shit about this
  6. [8:03 AM] LL: like den went through a lot of time making that doc and coming up with a proper tierlist for BL Ubers so having continuity from den wouldn't hurt anyone since we already have experience with putting this idea into action
  7. [8:05 AM] 2 GF's: Tier just started we are fine with current line up
  8. [8:06 AM] LL: we both know BTB drops off of discord whenever team tours start and z0mog doesnt give two shits about this tier but alright
  9. [8:06 AM] 2 GF's: No
  10. [8:06 AM] 2 GF's: Z0mog is actually been
  11. [8:06 AM] 2 GF's: Really helpful
  12. [8:07 AM] LL: ok what if
  13. [8:07 AM] LL: btb gives up his spot
  14. [8:07 AM] LL: for someone else
  15. [8:07 AM] 2 GF's: And btb told me already about that will address
  16. [8:07 AM] LL: like he willingly
  17. [8:07 AM] LL: does it himself
  18. [8:07 AM] LL: then would you let someone from den on?
  19. [8:07 AM] 2 GF's: I mean know one from den
  20. [8:07 AM] 2 GF's: *no
  21. [8:07 AM] LL: why the fuck not
  22. [8:07 AM] LL: we helped jumpstart your tier by doing tiering for you
  23. [8:07 AM] 2 GF's: I already talked to gary
  24. [8:07 AM] 2 GF's: About this
  25. [8:07 AM] LL: and you cant give us one council spot?
  26. [8:08 AM] 2 GF's: I think also the way u guys are treating this just hurts ur chances
  27. [8:08 AM] 2 GF's: Even more
  28. [8:08 AM] LL: aight so
  29. [8:08 AM] LL: we give you a doc
  30. [8:08 AM] LL: do the tiering
  31. [8:08 AM] LL: give you a vr
  32. [8:08 AM] LL: give sample teams
  33. [8:08 AM] LL: and you cant give us
  34. [8:08 AM] LL: one council spot
  35. [8:08 AM] LL: cool.
  36. [8:08 AM] 2 GF's: I already gave credit
  37. [8:09 AM] LL: im asking for one council spot not to import the whole damn council
  38. [8:09 AM] LL: i dont even care if its me
  39. [8:09 AM] 2 GF's: I probably would havee been fine if everyone from den
  40. [8:09 AM] 2 GF's: Wasnt bitching
  41. [8:09 AM] 2 GF's: Every second
  42. [8:09 AM] LL: seal helped you
  43. [8:09 AM] LL: so much with this
  44. [8:09 AM] LL: why cant you pay him back by giving him a council spot
  45. [8:09 AM] LL: like if btb says "im giving up my spot for seal" whats the problem
  46. [8:09 AM] LL: lol
  47. [8:09 AM] 2 GF's: Spindy helped alot as well
  48. [8:10 AM] 2 GF's: Should get a spot?
  49. [8:10 AM] LL: yes
  50. [8:10 AM] LL: if he did
  51. [8:10 AM] Kash: spindly is my guy
  52. [8:10 AM] Kash: he would be a good mod too
  53. [8:10 AM] LL: the people who contribute to the tier the most should be the people on the council
  54. [8:10 AM] LL: that's basic logic
  55. [8:10 AM] Kash: i used to mod with him
  56. [8:11 AM] 2 GF's: Yall need to stop harassing btb *sigh
  57. [8:11 AM] LL: we havent talked to btb about this
  58. [8:12 AM] LL: but we know he'd give his spot up if he knew someone from den was replacing him
  59. [8:12 AM] 2 GF's: Lol.
  60. [8:13 AM] Hunter: speak for yourself
  61. [8:13 AM] LL: ill ask him about it right now
  62. [8:13 AM] LL: and get logs then
  63. [8:13 AM] LL: lol
  64. [8:13 AM] 2 GF's: Btb
  65. [8:13 AM] 2 GF's: Told me
  66. [8:13 AM] 2 GF's: Everything
  67. [8:13 AM] 2 GF's: Already
  68. [8:13 AM] 2 GF's: I told him we are fine and he said ight
  69. [8:13 AM] 2 GF's: @LL
  70. [8:13 AM] 2 GF's: Let it go
  71. [8:13 AM] LL: no
  72. [8:13 AM] LL: you cant just
  73. [8:13 AM] LL: jack our doc
  74. [8:13 AM] LL: jack our tier
  75. [8:13 AM] LL: jack our vr
  76. [8:14 AM] LL: we spent
  77. [8:14 AM] LL: hours and hours
  78. [8:14 AM] LL: developing this shit
  79. [8:14 AM] LL: we deserve to have some sort of council representation
  80. [8:14 AM] Fleurer: What is happening?
  81. [8:14 AM] LL: rriv is being stubborn as usual
  82. [8:14 AM] Fleurer: And why are you mad?
  83. [8:14 AM] Fleurer: Or upsad?
  84. [8:15 AM] LL: basically he took the doc from den of thieves for this tier
  85. [8:15 AM] LL: but he wont let anyone from the den council onto the good saturdays one
  86. [8:15 AM] LL: which is retarded
  87. [8:15 AM] Fleurer: And Den of Thieves is the first one to do this right?
  88. [8:15 AM] Fleurer: Or was*
  89. [8:16 AM] LL: it's not the first to do it but everything in gs ou is based off of the work that den already did
  90. [8:16 AM] Fleurer: Ok, then it is a little dumb to not let some of those people take part in this tier.
  91. [8:16 AM] Fleurer: Because they have a lot more knowledge about it.
  92. [8:17 AM] 2 GF's: Heres the thing about den
  93. [8:17 AM] Fleurer: So why not give him a council spot?
  94. [8:17 AM] 2 GF's: They shit talk good saturdays all the time and then all of s sufden
  95. [8:17 AM] 2 GF's: They wanna be apart of us
  96. [8:17 AM] 2 GF's: I didnt jack shit
  97. [8:17 AM] LL: yes you did hello
  98. [8:17 AM] 2 GF's: It was given cause i said
  99. [8:17 AM] LL: the bl ubers doc and the good saturdays ou doc are identical
  100. [8:17 AM] 2 GF's: If you wanna contribute
  101. [8:17 AM] 2 GF's: Idm
  102. [8:17 AM] Fleurer: I don't know what Den is.
  103. [8:17 AM] 2 GF's: So he pmmed what he chose to
  104. [8:18 AM] 2 GF's: I didnt ask or force anything
  105. [8:18 AM] LL: ok but
  106. [8:18 AM] LL: said contributions
  107. [8:18 AM] LL: should be rewarded
  108. [8:18 AM] LL: regardless of your personal beef with den
  109. [8:18 AM] 2 GF's: And they were given credit
  110. [8:18 AM] 2 GF's: And recognition
  111. [8:18 AM] 2 GF's: For an idea
  112. [8:18 AM] 2 GF's: Thats been in alot of peoples heads(edited)
  113. [8:18 AM] 2 GF's: Even mine 2 years ago
  114. [8:18 AM] 2 GF's: Like lol.
  115. [8:19 AM] LL: the idea's been around forever but the actual document and tier that you took
  116. [8:19 AM] LL: are derived directly from den
  117. [8:19 AM] 2 GF's: No
  118. [8:19 AM] 2 GF's: The doc surr
  119. [8:19 AM] 2 GF's: The tier it self no
  120. [8:19 AM] LL: yes?
  121. [8:19 AM] Fleurer: Is Den upsad about this?
  122. [8:19 AM] LL: the banlist is directly copied from den
  123. [8:19 AM] 2 GF's: Den always bitching
  124. [8:19 AM] 2 GF's: So probably
  125. [8:20 AM] LL: we just want one council spot
  126. [8:20 AM] Fleurer: But if you didnt force anything
  127. [8:20 AM] LL: thats not asking for much
  128. [8:20 AM] 2 GF's: Last time i gave den anything
  129. [8:20 AM] LL: he didn't force anything but still took everything den gave him with open arms
  130. [8:20 AM] 2 GF's: It was a joke
  131. [8:20 AM] 2 GF's: Not happening anytime soon
  132. [8:20 AM] Fleurer: Then I agree.
  133. [8:20 AM] LL: If giving people from den power here is a joke
  134. [8:20 AM] Fleurer: Give some credit to someone of Den.
  135. [8:20 AM] Fleurer: For helping you.
  136. [8:20 AM] LL: he gave credit
  137. [8:20 AM] LL: to den
  138. [8:20 AM] LL: by saying
  139. [8:20 AM] LL: "Credit to den"
  140. [8:20 AM] LL: but we still deserve a spot on the councli
  141. [8:20 AM] Kash: im confused so ima sit out
  142. [8:20 AM] LL: bc we spent so much time
  143. [8:20 AM] 2 GF's: I gave em credit in title and in credit post
  144. [8:21 AM] LL: making this tier
  145. [8:21 AM] Fleurer: I agree with that.
  146. [8:21 AM] Kash: i wanted to help , but wasn’t informed
  147. [8:21 AM] 2 GF's: All this stuff den gave
  148. [8:22 AM] 2 GF's: Could easily have been made
  149. [8:22 AM] 2 GF's: They just saved us time and they were thanked
  150. [8:22 AM] Fleurer: But they gave it to you?
  151. [8:22 AM] Fleurer: Right?
  152. [8:22 AM] LL: it could've been made
  153. [8:22 AM] 2 GF's: Thats it
  154. [8:22 AM] LL: but
  155. [8:22 AM] LL: you took what we gave you
  156. [8:22 AM] LL: so give us proper compensation(edited)
  157. [8:22 AM] Fleurer: Then why be so hard on them
  158. [8:22 AM] Fleurer: Just give them a council spot.
  159. [8:22 AM] Kash: LL what happened
  160. [8:22 AM] LL: basically
  161. [8:22 AM] Fleurer: Whats the big deal?
  162. [8:22 AM] LL: someone from den dm'd rriv the doc we used
  163. [8:22 AM] LL: for our version of gs ou we made ages ago
  164. [8:23 AM] LL: called bl ubers
  165. [8:23 AM] LL: then he took it and copied it onto another doc
  166. [8:23 AM] LL: and rebranded it to gs ou
  167. [8:23 AM] LL: and im asking for one of the old council members
  168. [8:23 AM] LL: to get a council spot in this
  169. [8:23 AM] Fleurer: Which is only fair.
  170. [8:23 AM] Kash: ahh
  171. [8:23 AM] Kash: yeah thats bogus
  172. [8:23 AM] 2 GF's: Spots already filled
  173. [8:23 AM] 2 GF's: Already have 5
  174. [8:24 AM] LL: yeah btb said he'd give up his spot
  175. [8:24 AM] 2 GF's: No one really likes den on council as it is
  176. [8:24 AM] LL: if someone else from den
  177. [8:24 AM] LL: got a spot
  178. [8:24 AM] LL: like i said
  179. [8:24 AM] LL: personal beef shouldn't leak into this server
  180. [8:24 AM] LL: im talking about this from what's objectively the best decision to make
  181. [8:25 AM] 2 GF's: This comes from the man who wanted to dip from day 1s cause of one mistake kash made
  182. [8:25 AM] 2 GF's: Lol..come on.
  183. [8:25 AM] Kash: lmao
  184. [8:25 AM] LL: yeah that would've been
  185. [8:25 AM] LL: my own decision
  186. [8:25 AM] LL: not
  187. [8:25 AM] LL: changing server-wide policy
  188. [8:25 AM] LL: because of my beef
  189. [8:25 AM] LL: and i forgave him for it anyways
  190. [8:25 AM] Kash: we are cool now
  191. [8:26 AM] Fleurer: Soo.
  192. [8:26 AM] Fleurer: If I get it right
  193. [8:26 AM] Fleurer: Someone is willing to give up their spot for someone of Den.
  194. [8:26 AM] Fleurer: ?
  195. [8:26 AM] LL: yes
  196. [8:26 AM] LL: btb is
  197. [8:26 AM] Fleurer: And Den helped us or njnp set this all up.
  198. [8:26 AM] LL: yes
  199. [8:27 AM] Fleurer: Then why don't u give someone of them a council spot?
  200. [8:27 AM] LL: we gave him a doc to base the tier off of and sample teams for the tier
  201. [8:27 AM] Fleurer: and if they are a pain in the ass
  202. [8:27 AM] Fleurer: you can always kick them again
  203. [8:27 AM] Fleurer: I don't see the big deal here.
  204. NEW MESSAGES
  205. [8:27 AM] Kash: welcome to mod chat fleur
  206. [8:27 AM] Fleurer: Giving someone a spot whilst they helped you setup everything.
  207. [8:27 AM] Kash: simple stuff is not simple
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