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  1. [3:45:30 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: but i suspect the meaningful line-crossing would be her killin a dude
  2. [3:46:48 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: it's also probably a lot more strict in the central planets, and people who come from that sort of nicer circle might undergo more scrutiny than the riffraff because they could take their criminal intent /back/
  3. [3:46:51 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: because like
  4. [3:47:26 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: the resources are probably stretched kinda thin out here!
  5. [3:47:40 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: but back there it's Where All The Important People Are
  6. [3:48:02 PM] Madeline (Splat): Typically the more privileged get more leniency tho
  7. [3:48:15 PM] Madeline (Splat): In any societal model
  8. [3:48:18 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: yeah but keep in mind that there's an entire planet of civvies still
  9. [3:48:38 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: the rich and affluent get a pass but if /everyone/ got a pass it would not be a very orderly planet
  10. [3:48:51 PM] Madeline (Splat): I mean maybe
  11. [3:48:52 PM] Blanket Blanket: perhaps more import than the piracy is the deserters
  12. [3:48:55 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: (well, planet, planets)
  13. [3:49:02 PM] Madeline (Splat): Yeah
  14. [3:49:05 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: (i have no idea how many there are)
  15. [3:49:18 PM] Madeline (Splat): Solena and Cucali are like criminals on top of criminals
  16. [3:49:39 PM] Madeline (Splat): (Snnrk)
  17. [3:49:42 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: also the empire strikes me as having a stick up its ass so it seems unlikely that it would let everything fall apart back home
  18. [3:49:52 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: and yeah they're double chocolate chip criminals
  19. [3:49:56 PM] Blanket Blanket: petty criminality can be forgiven easy enough with connections but with treachery comes Dangerous Ideas
  20. [3:50:03 PM] Madeline (Splat): Yeah
  21. [3:50:22 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: yeah i think they'd come down pretty hard on things trying to shake up the social order
  22. [3:50:24 PM] Madeline (Splat): I mean I feel like shoving things under the rug would be more how that's handled
  23. [3:51:19 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: it could be! but paloma's whole 'i have to get the message to lawful people trying to help' suggests that people just /do not want/ to risk breaking the law too much if they're legitimate
  24. [3:52:12 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: also keep in mind there could be rug-shoving for the government and other standards for everyone else
  25. [3:52:18 PM] Madeline (Splat): I thought it was more a concept of lawful people not knowing what life is like out there
  26. [3:52:39 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP handwobbles, kind of both
  27. [3:52:50 PM] Madeline (Splat): Mm
  28. [3:53:07 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: though i could adapt to the other thing if it's something which bothers you?
  29. [3:53:10 PM] Blanket Blanket: There is no crime in the central planets
  30. [3:53:22 PM] Madeline (Splat): I think I'm just confused
  31. [3:53:29 PM] Madeline (Splat): It seems like
  32. [3:53:59 PM] Madeline (Splat): There is a lot you're trying to cover here, and I am probably just not grasping it completely
  33. [3:54:28 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: yeah i might not be explaining my ideas too well either
  34. [3:54:38 PM] Madeline (Splat): And I think that maybe keeping things smaller is better, if that makes sense
  35. [3:55:11 PM] Madeline (Splat): (ALSO solid reference @ blank I didn't wanna just let that slide by)
  36. [3:55:23 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: (yeah it's great)
  37. [3:55:36 PM] Blanket Blanket: (thanks)
  38. [3:55:45 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: well, i think the important thing here is to decide what sort of government the empire is, since we have differing ideas about it!
  39. [3:56:12 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: like i was going from an angle of The Empire Sucks because let's be real if it's based on the troll empire it's awful
  40. [3:56:27 PM] Madeline (Splat): I was going like
  41. [3:56:35 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: authoritarian shit which falls apart as you get further out
  42. [3:56:43 PM] Madeline (Splat): Historical colonial model
  43. [3:57:25 PM] Madeline (Splat): Which sucked if you were colonized, definitely...
  44. [3:58:35 PM] Madeline (Splat): But essentially it's a matter of "anything for the sake of progress and expanding influence"
  45. [3:59:50 PM] Madeline (Splat): For which having The Best Army is crucial, hence any supersoldier and super mutant projects
  46. [4:00:53 PM] Madeline (Splat): But not immune to criticism (Celsei's film, Paloma's publication) therefore still, at least to some extent, at the mercy of the people.
  47. [4:01:58 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: well, you'll note how paloma's stuff is also anonymised
  48. [4:02:04 PM] Madeline (Splat): Another concept is that there are different "empires" competing a la colonization in history, and the space race
  49. [4:02:14 PM] Madeline (Splat): Yes but Celsei's was not
  50. [4:02:22 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: yes i am just noting this for the record
  51. [4:03:12 PM] Madeline (Splat): Right! But she's on a pirate ship and doesn't want the people she's with (at least two of which have warrants out for their arrest) to get caught
  52. [4:03:48 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: yes and another reason is to protect her family, or at least that is what i said when i first pitched thie idea; certainly i can cede here
  53. [4:04:16 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: i would suggest respectfully however that there is a solution here already
  54. [4:04:36 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: if there are different empires, paloma comes from one, and celsei from the other
  55. [4:04:52 PM] Madeline (Splat): Oh that is absolutely brilliant
  56. [4:04:53 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: one is authoritarian; one is more democratic
  57. [4:05:09 PM] Madeline (Splat): I dig this!!
  58. [4:05:42 PM] Madeline (Splat): Especially if we like. Go off a Cold War model??
  59. [4:05:47 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: oh shit that's amazing
  60. [4:05:55 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: paloma comes from space russia
  61. [4:06:02 PM] Madeline (Splat): With the space race??? HELL YES!
  62. [4:06:07 PM] Madeline (Splat): Oh my god this is fantastic
  63. [4:06:20 PM] Blanket Blanket: Another of Solena's fake back stories: Long ago the four space nations lived in peace but everything changed when the empire attacked...
  64. [4:06:31 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: yesss this is good
  65. [4:06:34 PM] Madeline (Splat): I'm writing that down
  66. [4:06:37 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: i like it!!
  67. [4:06:52 PM] Madeline (Splat): But seriously oh my god, this is good and makes sense.
  68. [4:07:02 PM] Madeline (Splat): As much as sci fi needs to at least
  69. [4:07:14 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: ENOUGH SENSE TO SHIP
  70. [4:07:31 PM] NeonProdigy: I was wondering when we were gonna address other governments than The Empire, so yes good, I approve
  71. [4:07:41 PM] Madeline (Splat): This is good!
  72. [4:08:06 PM] Madeline (Splat): So the two empires are still in a Cold War
  73. [4:08:18 PM] Madeline (Splat): With fighting going on between various colonies
  74. [4:08:31 PM] Madeline (Splat): Oh man. The Cold War model. I love it.
  75. [4:08:40 PM] Madeline (Splat): Happy sigh
  76. [4:08:42 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: yeah like you know how countries these days sublet their wars to less-developed countries and let /them/ duke it out
  77. [4:08:50 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: it'd make sense if they did something similar here
  78. [4:08:55 PM] Madeline (Splat): That's exactly the case!
  79. [4:09:03 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: 'we're not going to march on you directly but my colony is gonna start shit with yours'
  80. [4:09:05 PM] Blanket Blanket: Also people like Cirrin stuck in the middle of international space that neither empire claims
  81. [4:09:13 PM] Madeline (Splat): Yes!
  82. [4:09:19 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: yesssssssss
  83. [4:09:23 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: okay phew
  84. [4:09:23 PM] Madeline (Splat): Man I love how well that came together
  85. [4:09:32 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: i was really tense for a second there but this is great
  86. [4:09:45 PM] Madeline (Splat): Sorry! I didn't mean to make you tense
  87. [4:09:55 PM] Madeline (Splat): Madeline (Splat) paps
  88. [4:10:03 PM] NeonProdigy: Tense, like the cold war?
  89. [4:10:09 PM] Madeline (Splat): Snnnrk
  90. [4:10:10 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: naw it's okay i have an anxiety disorder it kicks in at the wooorst times
  91. [4:10:19 PM] Madeline (Splat): Cuppa, you're space Russia
  92. [4:10:34 PM] Madeline (Splat): (Also I feel you on that, bleh)
  93. [4:10:41 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP pap pap
  94. [4:11:03 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: man
  95. [4:11:13 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: space USA sure has a killer science program
  96. [4:11:34 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: so i wonder neon, which side is elizan from? :|a
  97. [4:11:35 PM] Madeline (Splat): They surely do. And they do not do the best things with it
  98. [4:11:50 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: because space russia probably has /just as awful science/
  99. [4:12:05 PM] Madeline (Splat): They're at least still democratic and at the mercy of their constituents somewhat
  100. [4:12:14 PM] Madeline (Splat): I'm sure colonies don't have voting rights tho
  101. [4:12:43 PM] NeonProdigy: I'm gonna say
  102. [4:12:50 PM] NeonProdigy: Elizan is probably from Space USA
  103. [4:13:12 PM] Madeline (Splat): I was gonna suggest that, since she knew about the Martian project
  104. [4:13:17 PM] NeonProdigy: Yes, exactly
  105. [4:13:17 PM] Madeline (Splat): More than passingly I mean
  106. [4:13:25 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: yesss they're both working together despite coming from different places
  107. [4:13:40 PM] Blanket Blanket: on relief efforts no less
  108. [4:13:59 PM] Madeline (Splat): I could see Elizan defecting to space Russia when things in space USA went south
  109. [4:14:08 PM] Madeline (Splat): In other news: we should come up with better names
  110. [4:14:14 PM] NeonProdigy: Agreed
  111. [4:14:15 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: absolutely
  112. [4:14:16 PM] Madeline (Splat): For our dual empires
  113. [4:14:50 PM] Blanket Blanket: One could be an empire, the other called something else
  114. [4:15:02 PM] Blanket Blanket: Federation, confederation, alliance...
  115. [4:15:10 PM] Madeline (Splat): Maybe not the empire, because star wars
  116. [4:15:20 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: well, they could both be like
  117. [4:15:23 PM] Madeline (Splat): Also they're both technically empires in the traditional sense
  118. [4:15:29 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: the (name) empire and the (name) empire
  119. [4:15:37 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: and referred to by their names
  120. [4:16:24 PM] Blanket Blanket: Perhaps going back, how did two empires come about?
  121. [4:16:27 PM] NeonProdigy: NeonProdigy thinks
  122. [4:16:28 PM] Blanket Blanket: Are they both human based?
  123. [4:16:36 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: yeah i'd suggest they're both human-based
  124. [4:16:38 PM] Madeline (Splat): See I was thinking they both were, yes
  125. [4:16:41 PM] NeonProdigy: Yeah, it'll be easier to name them if we know more about them
  126. [4:16:41 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: humanity are assholes
  127. [4:16:47 PM] NeonProdigy: Fuckin' humans
  128. [4:16:54 PM] Blanket Blanket: In which case, do they have a shared homeworld? Long lost if needs be
  129. [4:16:59 PM] Madeline (Splat): But that presents an interesting concept of them both likely starting out on the same planet
  130. [4:17:10 PM] Madeline (Splat): Oh blank you get me
  131. [4:17:19 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: well that's obvious
  132. [4:17:20 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: earth!
  133. [4:17:30 PM] Madeline (Splat): I think having the homeworld be gone is a good concept
  134. [4:17:32 PM] Madeline (Splat): Bye earth
  135. [4:17:32 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: just, like, earth in a universe with more class-m planets close by
  136. [4:17:36 PM] NeonProdigy: GLORIOUS TERRA
  137. [4:17:58 PM] Madeline (Splat): Oh hey
  138. [4:18:04 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: the world of Huma, where humans came from
  139. [4:18:11 PM] Madeline (Splat): A VERY long time ago
  140. [4:18:29 PM] Madeline (Splat): One large group of humans was exiled from their home planet
  141. [4:18:38 PM] Madeline (Splat): And started anew somewhere else
  142. [4:18:45 PM] Madeline (Splat): And this can be our space USA
  143. [4:18:57 PM] NeonProdigy: Did the US get exiled from the Earth?
  144. [4:19:06 PM] Madeline (Splat): Serves us right
  145. [4:19:10 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: bloody americans
  146. [4:19:12 PM] NeonProdigy: I'd understand completely
  147. [4:19:23 PM] Madeline (Splat): But I more mean that since the USA was started as colonies yknow
  148. [4:19:30 PM] Madeline (Splat): And then they became independent
  149. [4:19:37 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: hmm yeah
  150. [4:19:45 PM] Madeline (Splat): And the population grew and grew...
  151. [4:19:48 PM] NeonProdigy: Okay so Space USA is obsessed with the military and weapons development and being SEEMINGLY super awesome and important, got it
  152. [4:20:00 PM] Madeline (Splat): 100%
  153. [4:20:37 PM] Madeline (Splat): But also, more culturally open minded
  154. [4:20:50 PM] Madeline (Splat): And with a tendency to claim things that aren't theirs as theirs
  155. [4:21:33 PM] NeonProdigy: Like land?
  156. [4:21:34 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: meanwhile, earth_native's population expanded beyond their world because there was just too many of them, and the expanding earthen empire took things with an eye towards preserving their global culture and spreading communism-- I MEAN their way of life
  157. [4:21:37 PM] Madeline (Splat): Oh yeah
  158. [4:22:12 PM] Madeline (Splat): The earth-based empire would be much more traditional in their values
  159. [4:22:24 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: they weren't making something /new/ they wanted to preserve what they /had/
  160. [4:22:32 PM] Madeline (Splat): Yes, exactly
  161. [4:22:35 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: which, over time, would naturally become more authoritarian and controlling
  162. [4:22:40 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: they're trying to hold on to what they had
  163. [4:22:46 PM] Madeline (Splat): Yup
  164. [4:23:05 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: earth... do we want to blow it up, or just make it a death world
  165. [4:23:21 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: i'm inclined to say death world it's hard to blow up a planet
  166. [4:23:30 PM] Madeline (Splat): Here's my concept
  167. [4:23:41 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP chinhands
  168. [4:23:45 PM] Madeline (Splat): Earth, still a thing. Home of one of the empires
  169. [4:23:47 PM] Blanket Blanket: I prefer to say it's a difficult challenge to blow up a planet
  170. [4:24:06 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: blank please don't blow up any planets
  171. [4:24:14 PM] NeonProdigy: I mean, get a ship big enough moving fast enough
  172. [4:24:19 PM] Madeline (Splat): The other empire is based on some other planet where the original settlers were awful to the natives, etc etc
  173. [4:24:26 PM] NeonProdigy: And just direct it at a planet
  174. [4:24:29 PM] NeonProdigy: Mass Weapons
  175. [4:24:44 PM] Madeline (Splat): They eventually expanded enough and became independent (maybe there was a revolutionary war)
  176. [4:24:51 PM] NeonProdigy: Pff
  177. [4:25:20 PM] Madeline (Splat): Operating purely off of American history with the newer empire being America and the older one being Britain here
  178. [4:25:41 PM] Madeline (Splat): I feel like since that model worked in actual history it's a simple matter to apply it to this on a larger scale
  179. [4:25:51 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: hmm yeah
  180. [4:26:13 PM] NeonProdigy: Makes sense
  181. [4:26:13 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: i suppose in this alternate history the british empire didn't collapse nearly as soon
  182. [4:26:22 PM] Madeline (Splat): So NOW we have two major powers, based on different planets. One has a much shorter history, but also a much more diverse population
  183. [4:26:33 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: right!!
  184. [4:26:55 PM] Madeline (Splat): Oh I don't even know what Actual Earth History looked like in this universe I'm only doing space history
  185. [4:27:13 PM | Edited 4:27:26 PM] Blanket Blanket: I think that meant space britain
  186. [4:27:16 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: oh yeah no i'm just like equavilating in my head about Space History
  187. [4:27:20 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: yeah i meant space britain
  188. [4:27:28 PM] Madeline (Splat): Oh okay cool
  189. [4:27:30 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: sorry my bad i forgot to add space before all my space words ._.
  190. [4:27:32 PM] Madeline (Splat): Yeah exactly
  191. [4:27:37 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: (space emoji)
  192. [4:27:52 PM] Madeline (Splat): ✨🌙✨
  193. [4:27:57 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: looooooool
  194. [4:28:00 PM] Blanket Blanket: (The presence of space britain suggests a meddling doctor though)
  195. [4:28:07 PM] Madeline (Splat): I don't think any of you can see those but yknow
  196. [4:28:12 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: i can see em!!
  197. [4:28:17 PM] Madeline (Splat): Good!!
  198. [4:28:20 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: but yeah okay so we've got two powers on different planets
  199. [4:28:44 PM] Madeline (Splat): And a pretty solid historical model for them. Nice job team!
  200. [4:28:58 PM] Madeline (Splat): Pep is gonna get back and be like "what the fuck"
  201. [4:29:05 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: I KNOW RIGHT
  202. [4:29:05 PM] NeonProdigy: Heh
  203. [4:29:10 PM] NeonProdigy: She missed all the world building
  204. [4:29:12 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: sorry pep (i'm not that sorry)
  205. [4:29:33 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: okay i'm a little sorry she's missing all this but i'm not sorry we're doin it
  206. [4:29:37 PM] Madeline (Splat): We just basically went through a crash course on the history of our world nbd
  207. [4:29:37 PM] NeonProdigy: Hmmmm
  208. [4:29:38 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: i love worldbuildin
  209. [4:29:55 PM] Madeline (Splat): Somebody should tl;dr this entire discussion or at least save it
  210. [4:29:57 PM] NeonProdigy: The Great... Allied...
  211. [4:30:07 PM] NeonProdigy: Something, for Space America maybe
  212. [4:30:10 PM] Madeline (Splat): Federation of planets?
  213. [4:30:13 PM] Blanket Blanket: Yeah, we mostly wanted names right?
  214. [4:30:19 PM] Madeline (Splat): Yeah... Names
  215. [4:30:21 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: The Great Alliance of Planets
  216. [4:30:26 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: or, to friends, the GAP
  217. [4:30:30 PM] Madeline (Splat): GAP
  218. [4:30:31 PM] NeonProdigy: pfffff
  219. [4:30:34 PM] Madeline (Splat): Snnrk
  220. [4:30:42 PM] Madeline (Splat): Do they have GAP outside of America
  221. [4:30:43 PM] NeonProdigy: Space USA WOULD go to the GAP
  222. [4:30:54 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: meanwhile space eurasia is obviously The Earthen Empire
  223. [4:31:03 PM] Blanket Blanket: Earth kingdom
  224. [4:31:11 PM] Madeline (Splat): The Earth Empire
  225. [4:31:22 PM] Madeline (Splat): At least they get a hot dictator
  226. [4:31:31 PM] NeonProdigy: Imperial Terra
  227. [4:31:44 PM] Blanket Blanket: "The Old Worlds" sound like a good casual name
  228. [4:31:49 PM] NeonProdigy: Ooh yeah
  229. [4:31:50 PM] Madeline (Splat): Somebody call IT, we've got colony issues
  230. [4:31:52 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: oh i like it
  231. [4:31:58 PM] Madeline (Splat): Yeah I can dig that
  232. [4:32:11 PM] Madeline (Splat): I'm actually not sold on the GAP though
  233. [4:32:27 PM] Madeline (Splat): (But I am wearing pants from there as we speak)
  234. [4:32:33 PM] NeonProdigy: Heh
  235. [4:32:37 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: pfff
  236. [4:32:39 PM] Madeline (Splat): (Which is probably why, if I'm honest)
  237. [4:32:42 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: yeah it was more of a joking suggestion
  238. [4:32:48 PM] NeonProdigy: Grand Planetary Alliance sounds better to me
  239. [4:33:00 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: gotta keep your GPA up!!
  240. [4:33:26 PM] Madeline (Splat): GPA doesn't matter, school is about making connections
  241. [4:34:05 PM] Madeline (Splat): Hmm
  242. [4:35:56 PM] Blanket Blanket: Axis of Free Planets
  243. [4:35:57 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: i keep wanting to suggest federation and then remember star trek ruined it
  244. [4:36:00 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: pfff
  245. [4:36:18 PM] NeonProdigy: Ooh lord, Axis has it's own rather specific connotations
  246. [4:36:38 PM] Blanket Blanket: The axis makes them sound evil but the freedom is good so it balances neutral right?
  247. [4:36:47 PM] Madeline (Splat): Why has either pop culture or history ruined all the good terms
  248. [4:37:12 PM] Madeline (Splat): Time to pull up a thesaurus
  249. [4:37:22 PM] Blanket Blanket: Ooh, for space russia what about the Central Planets as their offical title?
  250. [4:38:09 PM] Madeline (Splat): Association, union, league, confederation, federation, confederacy, coalition, consortium, affiliation
  251. [4:38:20 PM] NeonProdigy: The Galactic States of Freedom for Space USA? :V
  252. [4:38:22 PM] Blanket Blanket: Pact, Alliance
  253. [4:38:41 PM] NeonProdigy: I just see them taking and running with AMURICAH imagery
  254. [4:39:03 PM] Madeline (Splat): Central Planetary Confederation?
  255. [4:39:14 PM] Madeline (Splat): For the authoritarian guys
  256. [4:40:28 PM] Blanket Blanket: I definitely like the central part for the authoritarian/earth guys certainly
  257. [4:40:49 PM] Madeline (Splat): Same
  258. [4:40:52 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: hmmmm
  259. [4:41:21 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: i like them refering to earth in their name, it brings out how important that sort of thing is to them, though i /also/ like central something for them
  260. [4:41:28 PM] Madeline (Splat): Could even rename earth something to do with that. Centrion. Centroid.
  261. [4:41:36 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: oh hey that works
  262. [4:42:00 PM] Madeline (Splat): I gotchuuu 👌👌👌
  263. [4:42:26 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: yesss
  264. [4:42:35 PM] NeonProdigy: Maybe something about it being the birthplace of humanity
  265. [4:42:49 PM] NeonProdigy: Origin... Cradle...
  266. [4:43:04 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: i can definitely see it being referred to colloqually as 'the cradle' at least
  267. [4:43:05 PM] Madeline (Splat): Original Planet Do Not Steal
  268. [4:43:11 PM] Madeline (Splat): Ooh I like that
  269. [4:43:40 PM] Blanket Blanket: Origin, the great evil
  270. [4:43:56 PM] Madeline (Splat): Submitting League of United Worlds for Space USA
  271. [4:44:00 PM] NeonProdigy: The First Empire of Humankind
  272. [4:44:04 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: !!
  273. [4:44:11 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: i like that
  274. [4:44:25 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: very obnoxiously squares away 'human' for the centralists
  275. [4:44:40 PM] NeonProdigy: Yeah
  276. [4:44:45 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: 'yes, we are HUMANS from EARTH and BETTER THAN YOU'
  277. [4:45:24 PM] Madeline (Splat): 'Well we are HUMANS from EARTH too but unlike YOU we actually GO OUTSIDE'
  278. [4:45:46 PM] Blanket Blanket: League of United Humanity because we put humans before ancient planets
  279. [4:45:47 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: screaming match from planets away
  280. [4:46:00 PM] Madeline (Splat): That's it that's the Cold War
  281. [4:46:05 PM] NeonProdigy: Pffff
  282. [4:46:07 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: ahaha i really like both of them having human in their names
  283. [4:46:33 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: poor aliens though
  284. [4:46:34 PM] Madeline (Splat): Definitely squares away what the both care about
  285. [4:46:45 PM] Madeline (Splat): I'm concerned it's too on the nose though
  286. [4:46:59 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: hmm yeah
  287. [4:47:13 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: i can see the earthlings being on the nose about it but maybe not space USA
  288. [4:47:22 PM] Madeline (Splat): And I also think alien rights would definitely be something of a debate topic in Space USA
  289. [4:47:28 PM] Madeline (Splat): Yeah
  290. [4:47:42 PM] Madeline (Splat): Like I'm sure there's a whole cultural thing there
  291. [4:47:50 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: yeah imperial earth is a lot more 'move over this is ours now'
  292. [4:48:17 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: what if lunaro's planet was taken over by them and that's why they just got shoved out into slums with no consideration at all
  293. [4:48:28 PM] Madeline (Splat): That sounds about right
  294. [4:49:06 PM] Madeline (Splat): Like I'm not saying space USA is good to natives but I feel they'd go a more assimilation route with their conquering
  295. [4:49:14 PM] Madeline (Splat): Like... Well
  296. [4:49:32 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: oh yeah colonisation /always/ sucks to the people being colonised but there are different flavours of sucking
  297. [4:49:32 PM] Madeline (Splat): Madeline (Splat) vague gesture to my entire state
  298. [4:49:36 PM] Madeline (Splat): Oklahoma sucks
  299. [4:49:51 PM] Madeline (Splat): But yeah
  300. [4:49:55 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: i don't have the cultural background to get that but i think i get the gist of it
  301. [4:50:24 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: over here we had light kids get taken away and put in missions and forcibly assimilated
  302. [4:50:30 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: it's called the Stolen Generation and it suuucks
  303. [4:50:30 PM] Madeline (Splat): I live (part time) in the state where all the native Americans got sent
  304. [4:50:52 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: ahaa
  305. [4:51:05 PM] Madeline (Splat): Oh yeah we watched a movie about that stuff in OK history because it was similar to how we treated native Americans
  306. [4:51:16 PM] Madeline (Splat): (Shitty!)
  307. [4:51:27 PM] Madeline (Splat): Okay sidetracked. Still need names
  308. [4:51:33 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: hmmmmmm
  309. [4:51:46 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: [4:38 PM] Madeline (Splat):
  310.  
  311. <<< Association, union, league, confederation, federation, confederacy, coalition, consortium, affiliationpulls this up again
  312. [4:51:55 PM] NeonProdigy: Have we found any we liked so far out of the ideas we've put out?
  313. [4:52:07 PM] Madeline (Splat): i'll do you one better
  314. [4:52:17 PM] Madeline (Splat): http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/alliance
  315. [4:53:46 PM] Madeline (Splat): On 1/17/16, at 11:44 PM, Madeline (Splat) wrote:
  316. > Submitting League of United Worlds for Space USA
  317.  
  318. i still like this, personally
  319. [4:53:59 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: i like The First Empire of Humankind for space russia, or perhaps The First Empire of Earth, and yeah the League of United Worlds sounds very space USA
  320. [4:54:41 PM] NeonProdigy: League of United Worlds /does/ sound good for Space USA, and as the one that came up with it, The First Empire of Earth/Humankind sounds good to me for the other one :P
  321. [4:54:58 PM] Blanket Blanket: I like the "Central Planets" / "Central Planetary Confederation" / "Centralists"
  322. [4:55:11 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: oh 'centralists' IS a really snappy term
  323. [4:55:11 PM] Madeline (Splat): right, i agree with blank
  324. [4:55:17 PM] Madeline (Splat): i love that term
  325. [4:55:32 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: shit yeah i'm sold blank
  326. [4:56:16 PM] Madeline (Splat): i suggested central planetary confederation too bc it's kinda similar to confederacy and that has some relevant connotations
  327. [4:56:50 PM] Madeline (Splat): the league and the confederation
  328. [4:56:53 PM] Blanket Blanket: I was using your suggestion to add the confederation to it
  329. [4:57:05 PM] Madeline (Splat): yeeeee
  330. [4:57:12 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: oh right those were the slavery-positive americans in your revolution weren't they
  331. [4:57:23 PM] Madeline (Splat): sure were my friend
  332. [4:57:24 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: I AM SO GOOD AT WORLD HISTORY
  333. [4:57:52 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: the league and the confederation sound like good names
  334. [4:58:08 PM] Madeline (Splat): I'm sad that the league wont have a snappy term like centralists tho
  335. [4:58:09 PM] NeonProdigy: So which one is which, I wasn't 100% sure I was following that
  336. [4:58:21 PM] Madeline (Splat): league: space USA
  337. [4:58:26 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: the centralists are space russia
  338. [4:58:31 PM] Madeline (Splat): confederation: space russia
  339. [4:58:38 PM] NeonProdigy: Okay, got it
  340. [4:58:44 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: also hmm we could MAKE a snappy term
  341. [4:58:53 PM] Madeline (Splat): cue paloma getting called a damn centralist
  342. [4:59:28 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: 'leaguers' perhaps
  343. [4:59:38 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: oh yeah like i bet paloma's weird hairdos are SUPER centralist
  344. [4:59:46 PM] Blanket Blanket: Supporters of The league of United Worlds could be called unionists?
  345. [4:59:52 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: oh right
  346. [4:59:55 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: that makes much more sense!!
  347. [4:59:59 PM] Madeline (Splat): oh that's perf
  348. [5:00:06 PM] NeonProdigy: That IS perf!
  349. [5:00:12 PM] Madeline (Splat): yesss
  350. [5:00:16 PM] Madeline (Splat): WOW IM
  351. [5:00:20 PM] Madeline (Splat): VERY EXCITED
  352. [5:00:27 PM] Madeline (Splat): we got so much world building done
  353. [5:00:39 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: so 'union worlds' / 'league of united worlds' / 'unionists'?
  354. [5:00:42 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: I'M EXCITED TOO
  355. [5:00:45 PM] NeonProdigy: Lets give ourselves some congradulatory back-pats
  356. [5:00:54 PM] Madeline (Splat): just did, irl
  357. [5:01:02 PM] Λ WINTERMUTE.LIP: /me too/
  358. [5:01:20 PM] Madeline (Splat): okay time to copy paste all of this into a note
  359. [5:01:59 PM] NeonProdigy: Yes, we mustn't lose this precious info
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