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  2. PhaZen6:47 PM
  3. They're worried we are going behind your back
  4. which is not the case at all
  5. Manav6:47 PM
  6. im gonna lie to them
  7. !@#$ you man
  8. PhaZen6:48 PM
  9. you !@#$
  10. Manav6:48 PM
  11. you got your argus kill
  12. i aint getting mine
  13. frenchies leaving
  14. PhaZen6:48 PM
  15. frenchies left because i said we're prob making a new guild next week
  16. before rae started this conversation.
  17. idk why he decided to gquit right after
  18. Manav6:49 PM
  19. because he doesnt give a !@#$ about raiding
  20. only wants his gear for m+
  21. PhaZen6:49 PM
  22. yea i know
  23. Manav7:05 PM
  24. im going to be 100% honest with you
  25. PhaZen7:05 PM
  26. ok
  27. Manav7:06 PM
  28. if i dont get my argus kill in this guild or the new one i will be super salty
  29. and prolly join some place where i can
  30. im not saying it has to be within the next week but if after 1-1.5 months we still havent killed it
  31. PhaZen7:07 PM
  32. imma be 100% honest with you
  33. !@#$% YOU ALREADY SALTY
  34. Manav7:07 PM
  35. oh i am
  36. dirty has it before me
  37. holy has it before me
  38. Manav7:21 PM
  39. do we even have enough ppl to raid at the new raid times?
  40. PhaZen7:23 PM
  41. Everyone gave thier raid times last night, no one objected to any of them besides you, cryll and ent
  42. we settled on mon tues wed and the only person that may have a problem is cryll
  43. but he told me today that he will be able to do it
  44. hes a !@#$ing mad man
  45. i'm assuming you dont have a problem with the one we chose because you didnt say anything
  46. Manav7:28 PM
  47. are you assuming vent crew can make those times
  48. PhaZen7:29 PM
  49. They don't plan to raid in BfA?
  50. Manav7:29 PM
  51. <Deadly Boss Mods> Loadzz is busy fighting against Normal - Argus the Unmaker (39% (Stage 4), 29/29 people alive)
  52. no
  53. PhaZen7:30 PM
  54. then i dont see the problem
  55. Manav7:32 PM
  56. <DBM> Loadzz has defeated Normal - Argus the Unmaker!
  57. the problem is that now we have to find 4 new people
  58. to replace aldrina trig inter and rae
  59. PhaZen7:33 PM
  60. To replace trig and rae*
  61. Manav7:33 PM
  62. inter is done
  63. PhaZen7:34 PM
  64. hes one of the people being demoted.
  65. mt
  66. I know all you're worried about is getting your kill and getting back to argus as fast as possible.
  67. But we killed argus, we need to look forward towards bfa. And if we get a few Argus kills before then, that's a bonus.
  68. IF we continue the same !@#$ all the way into next expansion it will just keep happening.
  69. Manav7:36 PM
  70. if thats your mind set idk if i will stay
  71. PhaZen7:36 PM
  72. it is what it is slowz.
  73. Manav7:36 PM
  74. then im prolly done?
  75. PhaZen7:36 PM
  76. Literally the only thing you can focus on right now is your Argus kill.
  77. Idk why you just can't be patient and stick it out.
  78. We will most likely get a bunch of Argus kills.
  79. Manav7:39 PM
  80. because, ike you said, my priority is getting an argus kill
  81. i put in enough efforrt to maintain multiple toons and play them so that we could progress
  82. PhaZen7:39 PM
  83. So why are you against trying to players into the guild that will do the same???
  84. That's our whole !@#$ing idea behind it.
  85. Make the guild better.
  86. get*
  87. Manav7:41 PM
  88. because unless we get quality recruits we have to spend time relearning the bsoses
  89. and reprogress on aggramar/argus
  90. PhaZen7:41 PM
  91. heh
  92. and you dont have the patience for it.
  93. So you would rather stay in guild with Aldrinna tanking, rae healing and ellgar/dirty dpsing.
  94. rae and holyc
  95. Do you not plan on raiding in BfA?
  96. Manav7:45 PM
  97. i want to but my priority is short term right now
  98. which is to get my kill and mount
  99. PhaZen7:46 PM
  100. Is your problem you think ppl wont stick it out to get back to Argus?
  101. Manav7:46 PM
  102. inter/trig/rae wont come in
  103. so we are down 3 ppl
  104. whoc might not want to raid
  105. PhaZen7:46 PM
  106. Did they tell you that?
  107. Manav7:46 PM
  108. yes
  109. but they show up 100% of the time
  110. PhaZen7:47 PM
  111. i personally dont see the problem
  112. if they dont want to continue raiding for a chance at a mount
  113. then that's thier choice?
  114. like idk they were told they can continue raiding literally 3 hours ago.
  115. and get mounts
  116. Manav7:49 PM
  117. you can get in vent and talk to them
  118. PhaZen7:49 PM
  119. I just had a 2 hour long conversation with them
  120. Manav7:49 PM
  121. this is the information im getting and i dont want to be the cause of miscommunication
  122. PhaZen7:49 PM
  123. if they wanted to say that to us they would have.
  124. Manav7:50 PM
  125. "if farming argus is not our priority then we dont want to raid"
  126. literally said that
  127. PhaZen7:50 PM
  128. Of course because they dont have any stake in the guild for BfA
  129. Which shows me you dont !@#$ing care for BfA either.
  130. Why the !@#$ are we the bad guys for trying to keep the guild together that they planned on abandoning?
  131. Manav7:51 PM
  132. im not saying any one is at fault, i just want my kill/mount lol
  133. PhaZen7:51 PM
  134. No !@#$
  135. Manav7:51 PM
  136. and i want to raid in bfa
  137. PhaZen7:51 PM
  138. Be patient, we will get there.
  139. It's not going to happen instantly but we will kill Argus again.
  140. And it certainly wont happen instantly with the guild the way it is.
  141. Manav7:52 PM
  142. i think the guild as is capable of somewhat farming it?
  143. maybeim wrong
  144. but we hae the same ppl
  145. for the argus kill
  146. PhaZen7:53 PM
  147. we cant kill aggramar
  148. wipe on vari for 2 hours
  149. farming?
  150. no
  151. killing?
  152. yes
  153. Manav7:53 PM
  154. most guilds still wipe on aggramar forever
  155. PhaZen7:54 PM
  156. vari as well?
  157. without the skip, the current guild will not have argus on farm.
  158. Manav7:55 PM
  159. we have the skip though
  160. PhaZen7:55 PM
  161. we havent killed aggramar 4 times
  162. Manav7:56 PM
  163. didnt sch skip to aggramar yesterday
  164. and then went back to other bosses
  165. PhaZen7:56 PM
  166. yes with seans skip
  167. Manav7:57 PM
  168. we cant rea
  169. i know that vari was disappointing
  170. PhaZen7:57 PM
  171. huh
  172. Manav7:57 PM
  173. but its the first week after a kill
  174. PhaZen7:59 PM
  175. I mean we can leave and you guys can try and form a group to kill argus.
  176. But we actually want to have a in guild in BfA
  177. And you guys expecting us not to start it to try and get established so you get your mounts is bull!@#$.
  178. and selfish.
  179. i !@#$ing told all of them that they would have a chance at a mount
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