Perksi's Type Me

Evo - 05/20/2018
This is the typing channel for anonymous member Perksi. Any input is appreciated!
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ohvN2p04QaKiZ3X5lWdLUacJS31UlPh7/view?usp=sharing
Google Docs
Perksi.pdf

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laszlogasd - 05/20/2018
@perks-of-being-weird 🌻 It's your time.
Evo - 05/20/2018
:o
i'll come back after i've slept :ok_hand::skin-tone-1:
Pendulum - 05/20/2018
Compliant and positive. Preoccupation with identity and image over autonomy and security suggest heart core. 127 archetype.
Going to work now. Will review later.
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 05/20/2018
Ok hi so what do I need to do?
laszlogasd - 05/20/2018
First of all, patience will be appreciated. Several people still have exams / school etc., so it might feel a little slow.
Ususally the typers are going to read your q, then draw their conclusions, and you'll be here to provide clarification where needed.
Afterall, only really you can decide which enneagram type you feel closest to.(edited)
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 05/20/2018
Ok sounds good.
laszlogasd - 05/20/2018
And some reading on the types as well, of course.
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 05/20/2018
Anything you would recommend?
умилингос - 05/20/2018
check out the pinned stuff in #enneagram
there are books and resources there
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 05/20/2018
Thanks @умилингос
Evo - 05/21/2018
1 through 5 were a little short
6)
​I am always worried about how others perceive me. Do I look good? Is my hair weird
today? Did I say the right thing?

i'm pretty sure that i'm getting 2 vibes so far. if not 2 then maybe 1 or 6.

7)
Explanation:​ Between B and C is tuff. I’m alway putting others first. It just happens. But that probably
because I’m a very chill person. A good metaphor ish quote to discribe this part of me is “like water off a
ducks back”. Because I don’t let things show that they are getting to me. Until they build up and I have a
break down.

yeah sounds like compliant/superego triad.
last sentence is super relatable. I still feel 2 vibes, maybe 1 vibes because seems like suppressing needs almost

8) hm don't know on the head fix, could be 7
9)
Explanation: ​I think I said this already. I hold most emotions in. I don’t really know what emotions I’m
feeling in the moment even though I’m a feeler type. My sister says I might have a thing called
“Alexithymia : a difficulty describing emotions to others”

 yeah again, highly relatable
i think ive said that sentence word for word
11)
Explanation: ​I deal with stress daily. I’ve learned to just roll with it. If it gets really bad take a bubble bath.

qt(edited)
Evo - 05/21/2018
14) How do you see to your needs?:
-I just go after what I want. I don't feel like I need to earn them.
-I do this by earning them. I prove that I am deserving.
-I do without.
Answer: ​I either earn them or do without.

02/24/2018 11:18:02
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Please tell us why you chose this answer:
Explanation: ​I’m not usual driven enough to actually earn anything so I go with out.

could see 1w9 or 9w1
15)
Explanation: ​tasks I usually power through alone. Or I am focusing so much I forget to talk to others.
Also I haven’t had much experience with group tasks.

could see some competency triad(edited)
16)
Answer: ​I compromise (because something is better than nothing).
Please tell us why you chose this answer:
Explanation: ​Something is better than nothing. Also I’ve never been a very driven person. If it comes to
be, so be it.

17) How do you deal with conflict?:
-I get worked up.
-I avoid them.
-I detach from my emotions.
Answer: ​I avoid them.
Please tell us why you chose this answer:
Explanation: ​I’m already unable to understand my emotions so that’s alread detached lol. So I do what I
always do. Avoid and compress. Hide all that shit and negativity let only happy thoughts surface.

yeah, i'm really starting to think 2 core. this sounds like a mixture of compliant triad + positive triad
19) definitely positive triad there
in some of the answers there's a bit of resignation
and not drawing attention to self
so i could also see 9
i think either 2w1 core or 9w1 core
are you a beginner to enneagram @perks-of-being-weird 🌻 ?
i can't remember
i was just wondering whether you were, because i would recommend 9types.com for beginners
just to get a general vibe of the types
you could at least narrow down which ones resonate more
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 05/21/2018
Yes I’m a beginner to enneagram. I know absolutely nothing about it.
Evo - 05/21/2018
Then i think 9types.com is best i can link you in a bit :)
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 05/21/2018
Yay I like links. :wink:
Evo - 05/21/2018
alrighty
http://9types.com/descr/?type=1
so when you click on that link it brings you to type 1(edited)
what you're looking to do is
look at type 1 and compare that to type 8 and then type 9.
and just try to narrow down which one sorta resonates the most with you.
if you're stuck between two of them, that's fine just make a note of which ones you and and don't relate to
then you can do the same for the other types
so like compare type 2, type 3 and type 4 with each other and try to narrow down the one that you think resonates most
then the same with comparing type 5 to type 6 to type7
Evo - 05/22/2018
@perks-of-being-weird 🌻  i could go through them with you if you'd like
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 05/22/2018
@Evo yes. That’d be great but I’m currently on a work trip. I’ll be on my way home tomorrow.
Evo - 05/22/2018
No problem!
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 05/25/2018
Ok @Evo I’m finally mostly available this weekend
Lol
So just ping me when you are.
:relaxed:️
Evo - 05/25/2018
Okie :curiouslylookingcutepanda:
I'll be on later tonight
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 05/25/2018
Awesome sauce
Evo - 05/27/2018
Sorry, while my brain is still working
I think it's best to read through that website i linked at least between types 2,1,and 7 those were the ones that were most prominent to others
You can also do the  ?amitype command
@perks-of-being-weird 🌻
So for example
?amitype 2
Oh rip this bot hates me today i forgot
?amitype 1
:(
I could just link the questions lpl
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 05/29/2018
So far out of 1, 2 & 7 I’m definitely not 1. Out of the three I’m mostly 2 and I can relate to some of 7 but not all.
Pendulum - 05/29/2018
What about 9?
http://www.9types.com/descr/9/
@perks-of-being-weird 🌻
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 05/30/2018
Ok wow. :ok_hand::skin-tone-1:
9 definitely ranks higher then 1, 2 and 7
Especially this part “being too sensitive to criticism; taking every raised eyebrow and twitch of the mouth personally”
And this “being nonjudgmental and accepting”
And this “Ask me questions to help me get clear.”
Pendulum - 05/30/2018
Mm. I didn't the impression that you were triple positive. How well do you relate to type 6 compared to type 7?
Type 6 - http://www.9types.com/descr/6/
Type 7 - http://www.9types.com/descr/7/
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 05/30/2018
Let me read it a second lol.
Pendulum - 05/30/2018
No problem. Take your time.
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 05/30/2018
Parts of six yes most of it no.
“procrastinating because of fear of failure; having little confidence in myself” is a definite yes
“exhausting myself by worrying and scanning for danger” and pretty much everything listed under “6’s as children” is a no.
Where as I connected with a lot of it but the extroverted stuff felt a bit like it was saying “if your an introvert you aren’t a 7”
Pendulum - 05/30/2018
Which parts of the 2 description did you connect with and which parts fell short?
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 05/30/2018
Let me check...
Just this part “act coy, precocious, or dramatic in order to get attention”
Everything else is pretty spot on.
Pendulum - 05/30/2018
How would you rank the following motivations?

- To be at peace and feel connected with the world. Even if it means ignoring your desires and motivations so you don’t alienate people?
- To be a good person and know that you’re doing the right thing. Even if it means being too critical about yourself and sometimes others?
- To be appreciated and cared for. Even if it means going out of your way to befriend and help people who don’t need it or recognize your efforts?
- To be secure. Even if it means developing a rigid and borderline paranoid view of who is and isn’t trustworthy?
- To be free to pursue your desires. Even if it means shirking responsibility and ignoring issues of the present to focus on the future?(edited)
Pendulum - 06/01/2018
@perks-of-being-weird 🌻
Evo - 06/01/2018
If you don't get triple positive, do u think maybe 259?
@Pendulum
Those are good questions lol
Only reason i wonder about 5 fix as a possibility is because i saw some competency triad in there, and she doesn't relate to 1
Although, it could be the w1 in the 2
Number 9 large - 06/01/2018
Type 4w3
@perks-of-being-weird 🌻
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 06/01/2018
@Pendulum I guess my top pick would be -to be a good person.... :shrug::skin-tone-1:‍♀️
None of those really stick out to me.
I have yet to read 3, 4, 5, 6 & 8. :grimacing: guess I’m going to do that now lol
I think I’ve read 4 a long time ago. :thinking:
Number 9 large - 06/01/2018
Im pretty sure youre a 4
Moody, cares about having a unique identity
Evo - 06/01/2018
The q was mostly 2 lol. We're just trying to figure out the other fixes.
Pendulum - 06/03/2018
@Evo The only part of the questionnaire that strikes me as 5-like is her answer to Q15. I don't see much if any withdrawn in either the survey or the follow up questions so far. There's too much "other" focus. Too much...responsiveness? Which is why compliant stands out to me. There's also avoidance. In the fear question and others that strikes me as positivity chasing.

And it's the fact that I see so much compliant-orientation that I'm really doubtful of triple positive. While not impossible, I struggle to see 2 alone (even as core) being enough to explain it. Also:

perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - Last Friday at 9:08 PM I guess my top pick would be -to be a good person....

Suggests 1 again or at least a w1. Thinking about it more, I guess I could agree with triple positive provided they are all accompanied with compliant wings. 2w1 7w6 9w1 in some order.
Evo - 06/03/2018
yes
i think that sounds good
the w1 is probably what you're seeing
picked up only on it enough to say w1 for the 9 and 2
didn't seem like a fixation though
I did see some withdrawn tho
which is why i probably thought 9
like what i quoted up there about the needs, seemed withdrawn
14) How do you see to your needs?:
-I just go after what I want. I don't feel like I need to earn them.
-I do this by earning them. I prove that I am deserving.
-I do without.
Answer: ​I either earn them or do without.

Please tell us why you chose this answer:
Explanation: ​I’m not usual driven enough to actually earn anything so I go with out.
(edited)
like that
Pendulum - 06/03/2018
Yes, that quote is something I could easily see a 9w1 saying.(edited)
Evo - 06/03/2018
17) How do you deal with conflict?:
-I get worked up.
-I avoid them.
-I detach from my emotions.
Answer: ​I avoid them.
Please tell us why you chose this answer:
Explanation: ​I’m already unable to understand my emotions so that’s alread detached lol. So I do what I
always do. Avoid and compress. Hide all that shit and negativity let only happy thoughts surface.
and avoid + compress just seems like positive 2 + w1
Pendulum - 06/03/2018
That quote reads as pure positive outlook to me.
I can see that.
Evo - 06/03/2018
yeah the compress is the 1
seems like it just "serves" the core
or whatever
I think that Perksi mentioned she just wanted to go through the other types?
which i think is a good idea
best for her to decide her type ultimately :3
but i could see 2w1,9w1,7w6
Pendulum - 06/03/2018
That's fine. I also think it would help to read through this link to see which of the two perspectives is most relatable.
https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/misidentifying-2-and-9
@perks-of-being-weird 🌻
Evo - 06/03/2018
oh, yes
ty
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 06/03/2018
Ok after reading all the types over I ranked them sort of.
 I am least like 1, 3, 6, & 8
I’m kind of like 2 & 7
I am most like 4, 5 & 9
Number 9 large - 06/03/2018
Withdrawn af
So ur the super introvert
Evo - 06/03/2018
interesting
i'm curious what about 4 you relate to?
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 06/03/2018
“being unique and being seen as unique by others”
“Though I don't always want to be cheered up when I'm feeling melancholy, I sometimes like to have someone lighten me up a little.”
“having aesthetic sensibilities”
“feeling guilty when I disappoint people”
Number 9 large - 06/03/2018
Thats not necessarily 4
The last one
Evo - 06/03/2018
yeah lol
Number 9 large - 06/03/2018
Thats more 1 2 6
Evo - 06/03/2018
that's an everyone thing
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 06/03/2018
Most of it. But these really stuck out to me.
Ok
Evo - 06/03/2018
can i do the uhh
i have a thingy
?amitype4
HeckumsBOT - 06/03/2018
1)    Would you say that being with people, nurturing personal relationships, and being intensely loyal to the people you love are the innate gifts that bring the greatest pleasure and meaning to your life?

2)    Even in your closest relationships, does fear of loss or abandonment cause you to struggle against feelings of jealousy or possessiveness?

3)    Do you tend to avoid or procrastinate over tasks that require focusing on details or paperwork, seeing them as tedious and depressing?

4)    When presented with a new plan, idea, or project, do you feel that it's important to recognize flaws first so that the possibilities won't become unrealistic and therefore disappointing?

5)    Is your sense of meaning and purpose in life best expressed through the symbols, stories, ad traditions that connect you to people, to your faith, or to life in general?

6)    Have you spent a great deal of time and energy on a quest to understand the meaning of your own life and history, hoping to understand your purpose for being on this earth?

7)    When experiencing the beauty of nature -- for example, a sunset or a budding flower -- do you connect with something spiritual and even sometimes feel your heart will burst because of the sheer wonder of creation?

8)    Do you often feel so many emotions at once that you become confused about which to express first and how to organize your thoughts?

9)    Are you attracted to the dramatic or unusual things in life -- in clothes, food, friends, art, decor?


Evo - 06/03/2018
would you say you relate to those? ^
Number 9 large - 06/03/2018
:smirk:
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 06/03/2018
1, 2, 3, 7, 8, & 9 yess
4 & 6 no
5 I don’t understand
Hydro - 06/03/2018
ooo there's a type tester :eyes::eyes:
Evo - 06/03/2018
?amitype2
HeckumsBOT - 06/03/2018
1)    Are you so sensitive and responsive to the pain in people around you that others might good-naturedly refer to you as a "mind reader" or "psychic"?

2)    Do you find it difficult to limit the time or energy you spend when others seem to need you?

3)    Do you struggle with organization in your personal life -- starting many projects but following through on very few?

4)    Is it difficult for you to judge how much time is appropriate for yourself or others to focus on meeting personal needs without becoming selfish?

5)    Are you a flexible, accepting person who seldom, if ever, finds strictly right or wrong answers to life's problems?

6)    In personal relationships, does your dedication to finding creative ways of expressing your affection often collide with feelings of resentment over being taken for granted?

7)    Do you quickly become agitated or "stressed out" when doing tasks that focus on theoretical, objective issues that are devoid of any interpersonal dimension?

8)    No matter where you are -- on the job, shopping, on vacation, at a restaurant, at a party -- do you seem to attract people, even perfect strangers, who pour out their hearts or tell you their life stories?

9)    Do you gain a sense of personal fulfillment at helping others achieve their goals?
Evo - 06/03/2018
what about those?
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 06/03/2018
2 & 3 yes
the rest no
Evo - 06/03/2018
interesting
Hydro - 06/03/2018
wait how is 3 related to type 2?
Evo - 06/03/2018
not all the questions are 100%
I can't give you an answer without pulling from stereotypes because it's been a long time since i've read Helen's book
Hydro - 06/03/2018
sounds more like a high Ne/low or no Te thing to me tbh
Evo - 06/03/2018
well, it's getting at the point
that 2s take care of others lol more than themselves sometimes
i'm guessing ~
Hydro - 06/03/2018
mayhaps, but the way the question is phrased makes it sound like 7s more than 2s, constantly hopping from one thing to another
Evo - 06/03/2018
yep i could see that
those questions should have a disclaimer of like
"in progress"
Pendulum - 06/03/2018
I do not get 4 from the questionnaire. I primarily type by triadic overlaps. For me to see 4 core as a genuine possibility, I would need to see a lot of overlap in at least two (but ideally all) of the following characteristics:

Reactivity harmonics
Frustration object relations
Withdrawn social style

Reactivity is one of the harmonic approaches. Harmonics describe how each type handles external conflict, adversity, and situations in which their needs are not being met. 468 are all inclined to have strong reactions to adversity. 4s emotionally, 6s mentally, 8s actively.

In Question 11, in response to stress, you say:

I often direct my attention elsewhere. I deal with stress daily. I’ve learned to just roll with it. If it gets really bad take a bubble bath.

You chose the positive outlook response and not the reactive one. This gives more weight to types 2, 7, and 9 and less weight to the other six.

In Question 17, on conflict:
Answer: ​I avoid them.
Explanation: ​I’m already unable to understand my emotions so that’s already detached lol. So I do what I always do. Avoid and compress. Hide all that shit and negativity let only happy thoughts surface.

Positive response again. If anything, this response would single handedly make me disregard 4 are a genuine possibility for you. 4 would not be satisfied with being so out of touch with themselves. The would be compelled to heighten the experience and this compulsion would be motivated to better understand where they really stand on the issue. Aka reactivity. Aka “getting worked up”.
The next triadic group of note is the Hornevian/Social Styles group. It mainly focuses on how we handle internal conflict. Withdrawn types are most likely to lose touch with their physicality. They retreat into their imagination and dreams. 4’s withdrawal is motivated by scarcity. They (erroneously) think that the less available and relatable they become, the more people will be intrigued and compelled to pay attention. The more they devalue and reject the mundane, the more sublime they feel they become. In theory anyway.

On seeing to your needs:
Answer: ​I either earn them or do without.
Explanation: ​I’m not usual driven enough to actually earn anything so I go with out.

Earning is the compliant answer. Doing without the withdrawn answer. Forgive me if I’m being presumptuous, but it does not seem like you’re “doing without” because you’re trying to differentiate yourself. It sounds like you’re doing without because you lack motivation to act. This points heavily to 9-style withdrawal rather than 4 withdrawal.
On expressing shame:
Answer: ​I avoid shame in the moment. Later on it may manifest as denying the situation in order to prove yourself so that you avoid the shame.
Explanation: ​I hide all my emotions. I think I’m learning things about myself Р. I definitely turn bright red and avoid any confrontation when it comes to shame. I ignored it at all costs

You chose the competency aka the 3 response to this question but your explanation is pure positive avoidance aka 2. You didn’t get anywhere close to the 4 response here.

I’m deliberately skipping #15 because you admit to not having much experience in those situations.

On responding to needs:
Answer: ​I compromise (because something is better than nothing).
Explanation: ​Something is better than nothing. Also I’ve never been a very driven person. If it comes to be, so be it.

Compliant response so more weight was given to types 1, 2, and 6. Disengaging is the withdrawn response and other than once again affirming a lack of drive (suggesting both a lack of id/assertive and being out of touch with gut), you didn’t conclusively hit on the withdrawn motivation.
The last triad is the object relations group. It mostly refers to our default approach to relationships. The template we habitually follow. 4s are frustration types. They quickly determine and (think they) know what they want. But they also struggle to hold on to their ideal. Their whole sense of self is based on the pursuit and acquisition of this ideal. For 4’s the fixation is “ideal validation” aka finding within objects, another person, or a group a perfect reflection of their identity.

In Question 13, on existential problems:
Answer: ​Finding purpose and feeling restricted.
Explanation: ​I’m limited emotionally by not knowing my emotions. And not planning is probably keeping
me from finding my purpose.

You are interested in finding purpose which is common 4 buzzword but more generally a frustration (1,4,7) trait. Yet, you go on to say that you are out of touch with your emotions (anti-heart frustration trait), and too much in your head planning (head-style frustration). Consequently, any points you could’ve won for 4 here were quickly transferred to 7.

There is probably more to be said but I've already written too much and also need to run errands now. Suffice it to say, that from the questionnaire, I find 4 highly unlikely. Depending on your response to the above, I may be willing to revise but it would take a lot of convincing at this point.
Evo - 06/03/2018
dear god i'm glad you said you didn't see 4, because i really don't understand where the 4 is coming from :wew:
unless it's like integration?
Number 9 large - 06/03/2018
Hm
Evo - 06/03/2018
I think mostly what i saw was like 2 or 9
so maybe it's the withdrawn that youre relating to in the 9?
idk
Number 9 large - 06/03/2018
Hm idk why i saw 4
Ye 2 seems actually likely
..
, hopefully they see me as loveing and caring, and willing to do anything for them.
Talking about ur siblings, sounds very 2

Evo - 06/03/2018
i can't tell if it's core though, you know?
Olimpia - 06/03/2018
that quote sounds pretty caretaker too
but dunno
Evo - 06/03/2018
I saw a lot of compliant + positive, which made me think 2(edited)
Number 9 large - 06/03/2018
Ye
She also says moody and that kinds rules out 9 ino
Imo
Like she mentions being moody/talks abiut her emotions quite a lot
Evo - 06/08/2018
@perks-of-being-weird 🌻  did you want more feedback or anything? Because ultimately whichever you settle on, even if you think that 4 is more relatable than 2, it's your own self discovery that matters.
So let me know if you wanted to keep discussing, or if you think you've settled on something :)
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 06/09/2018
I want to keep discovering more about this. But I’m on vacation till Wednesday.
perks-of-being-weird 🌻 - 06/15/2018
Ok I’m back from vacation
shyvs - 06/16/2018
wb
Evo - 06/25/2018
@perks-of-being-weird 🌻 did you want me to log this?
Evo - Last Tuesday at 11:30 AM
O_O
pho - Last Tuesday at 2:50 PM
what would this even be logged as
:blobthonking:
Evo - Last Tuesday at 3:27 PM
probably 2 vs 9 debated
or unresolved as possible 279 or 927
somethin like that
pho - Last Tuesday at 3:39 PM
pendulum had a really good analysis
Evo - Last Tuesday at 3:40 PM
yeah they're really good at typing
they've brought up a bunch in others' threads that was helpful
will probably close this tomorrow if we're not gonna do anymore with it