Joe Rogan - 1558 Tristan Harris Debasing The Subtrate Junk Attention Economy

Joe Rogan Experience #1558 - Tristan Harris = https://youtu.be/OaTKaHKCAFg?t=2716
He is now co-founder & president of the Center for Humane Technology, whose mission is to reverse ‘human downgrading’ and re-align technology with humanity.

we have shortening of attention spans
we have more outrage driven news media
we have more polarization
um we have more breakdown of truth
we have more conspiracy-minded thinking
these seem like separate events uh and separate phenomena but they're actually all part of this attention extraction paradigm
that the company's growth as you said depends on extracting more of our attention which means
more polarization
more extreme material
more conspiracy thinking and shortening attention spans because
we we also say like
if we want to double the size of the attention economy
i want your attention joe to be split into two separate streams
like i want you watching the tv uh the tablet and the phone at the same time
because now i've tripled the size of the amount of extractable attention that i can get for advertisers
which means that by fracking for attention and splitting you into more junk attention that's like thinner
we can sell that as if it's real attention like the financial crisis
where you're selling thinner and thinner financial assets
as if it's real but it's really just a junk asset
oh wow
and that's kind of where we are now
where it's sort of the junk attention economy
because we we're we can shorten attention spans and we're debasing the substrate
of that makes up our society because everything in a democracy depends on individual sense making and meaningful choice
meaningful free will meaningful independent views but if that's all basically sold to the highest bidder that debases the soil from which independent views grow
because all of us are jacked into this sort of matrix of social media manipulation that's that's ruining and degrading our democracy
and that's really there's many other things that are ruining integrating our democracy
but that's that's the sort of invisible force that's upstream that affects every other thing downstream
because if we can't agree on what's true for example you can't solve any problem